My GFF dilemma

This is actually intended to be a semi-serious post.

When I bought the GFF blades a month or two back they were supposed to be just a little experiment to see how hard blades really are to hit and also to see what all the GFF fuss was about. I planned to use them at the range and for the odd casual round on short knocking goat tracks where the perceived difficulty of hitting 'blades' would not be too punishing. However I am loving these clubs and hitting them beautifully. The 7, 8 & 9 irons are absolute pin seekers and I have been making more birdies than normal in the past few weeks thanks to getting them close. My chipping, usually with the 9 iron, has also improved and I have had several chip in pars and birdies lately too.

Last weekend I put my R7 TP's back in the bag on Sunday and hated them. However I was having an off day so I put them back in the bag on Tuesday night and tried again. I hit them much better than on Sunday but still didn't like the very muted feedback you get from them. They also look so oversize and bulky at address, you feel certain you are going to chunk it or hit it fat compared to the 33's which look like precision instruments at address. Last night I took the GFF out and was again hitting them sweetly. Now week by week this is fine. My dilemma is that I have my annual golfing trip to the South Island next week with about 10 of my buddies and we will playing 6 rounds of golf in 3 days on some pretty tough, championship layouts.

So my dilemma. I can't take both sets due to the weight so do I take the safe option and bag the old shovels that are more forgiving and I am familiar with or do I take the GFF blades? My fear is having a mid weekend meltdown with the blades and having no shovels to fall back on.

What do you golfing gurus reckon?

I'd better make this a poll.

Take the GFF. If you had a quality shovel this might be a tighter debate, but a well made iron is always better than some mass produced sweatshop iron.

[B]You must[/B] take the GFF and march confidently into a new era. [B]You must not[/B] act in accordance with your fears about your possible inadaquecy.
You have stated how sweetly you hit the GFF, so what if you have a bad round, you have to man up and see your GFF conversion through.
Perhaps your real dilema may be your fear of being ridiculed by your mates if by playing badly you appear to be a wannabe hacker playing blades.
Never take a backward step Kiwi, and rise to glory and GFF greatness.

Once a Samurai, always a Samurai.....

[QUOTE=oldplayer][B]You must[/B] take the GFF and march confidently into a new era. [B]You must not[/B] act in accordance with your fears about your possible inadaquecy.
You have stated how sweetly you hit the GFF, so what if you have a bad round, you have to man up and see your GFF conversion through.
Perhaps your real dilema may be your fear of being ridiculed by your mates if by playing badly you appear to be a wannabe hacker playing blades.
Never take a backward step Kiwi, and rise to glory and GFF greatness.[/QUOTE]

This just brought a tear to my eye . . . . . . . simply beautiful and accurate . . . . [img]http://smilies.sofrayt.com/eng/crying14.gif[/img]

Kiwi
why don't you go down to your local bar have the bartender make you a double shirley temple, grab two birth control pills and then flip your Liberachie fellowship coin, Heads=shovels, tails=blade.
WTF play the club your scoring the best with, I just lost respect for NZ.
No wonder sheep thrive there, F'ing GFF sheep
GHD

Who says you'll have a blow up round playing with them? Also, who says the R7 TP's will be any better?

I think this quote from shitmydadsays is appropriate for this discussion.

"Don't listen to the pu$$y side of you when you make a decision. People gravitate towards being a pu$$y. Remove the pu$$y, son."

[QUOTE=poe4soul]I think this quote from shitmydadsays is appropriate for this discussion.

"Don't listen to the pu$$y side of you when you make a decision. People gravitate towards being a pu$$y. Remove the pu$$y, son."[/QUOTE]

Well said Poe. Heres another short and too the point saying "Man Up".

F'ing sheep

GHD

If you're playing championship courses, you want to play championship equipment. Muted, semi sweet shots with oversized chunky shovels (in your opinion) won't get the job done. You will be facing shots where you will need supreme confidence that your equipment will be able to hold up it's end of the bargain, and for you that means the GFF.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]If you're playing championship courses, you want to play championship equipment. Muted, semi sweet shots with oversized chunky shovels (in your opinion) won't get the job done. You will be facing shots where you will need supreme confidence that your equipment will be able to hold up it's end of the bargain, and for you that means the GFF.[/QUOTE]

NAH
would you make your mind up
GHD

[quote=groundhogday]Kiwi
why don't you go down to your local bar have the bartender make you a double shirley temple, grab two birth control pills and then flip your Liberachie fellowship coin, Heads=shovels, tails=blade.
WTF play the club your scoring the best with, [B]I just lost respect for NZ.[/B]
No wonder sheep thrive there, F'ing GFF sheep
GHD[/quote]

You only hurt the ones you love......

this debate is older than HB's mom's vagina

Well the results so far are pretty resounding in favour of the blades.

I think OP has hit the nail on the head. If I play poorly I will look like a total wannabee hack for playing blades and will be ridiculed mercilessly by my buddies.

Keep the opinions coming, I still have a week before I make the final decision. Maybe it’ll come down to a coin toss as GHD suggested?

As for some of the disparaging remarks about the shovels one thing I would like to clarify is that these R7’s are not the oversize GI shovels that Kenny Perry uses. They are the TP version that Y.E. Yang used to make Tiger his biatch on the final Sunday of the PGA Championship. Surely that counts for something?

What if you mix the sets up? Play the blades down to the 7 or 6 iron and the shovels from 5 down. You could probably throw in a couple extra clubs (like the 6 and 7 from both sets) and still make weight if you put your golf balls on a carry on. This way if your playing poorly you can through in your mid irons from you hacker set or if your swing is in a groove you can play your blades. Not sure if the gaps will work for you but it's a thought.

If I was playing with you I wouldn't care if you played like shiat with the blades. I'd take your money without a peep. I probably encourage you to continue trying the blades.

[QUOTE=poe4soul]What if you mix the sets up? Play the blades down to the 7 or 6 iron and the shovels from 5 down. You could probably throw in a couple extra clubs (like the 6 and 7 from both sets) and still make weight if you put your golf balls on a carry on. This way if your playing poorly you can through in your mid irons from you hacker set or if your swing is in a groove you can play your blades. Not sure if the gaps will work for you but it's a thought.

If I was playing with you I wouldn't care if you played like shiat with the blades. I'd take your money without a peep. I probably encourage you to continue trying the blades.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm ... good suggestion but not really an option I would consider. They are just so different. At the moment I have the MP-30's 3-5 iron and the MP-33 blades 6-PW and the transition is seamless. They look virtually identical at address and I love the feel of the 30's too.

The R7's just look and feel so different. Its gotta be a one or the other decision I think.

[QUOTE=groundhogday]NAH
would you make your mind up
GHD[/QUOTE]
This advice was not necessarily what I would do. I am in a slump and do not have the confidence to use precision instruments at this time. But Kiwi has said how he has been striping his GFF, so he should continue to use them.

Kiwi, if you go with the R7s and stink it up you will never forgive yourself for leaving the GFF at home. Alternatively if you take the R7s and pure it, you will forever wonder how much better you would have played with the GFF swinging it that good. Either way, there is only one answer to your question. Take the GFF.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]This advice was not necessarily what I would do. I am in a slump and do not have the confidence to use precision instruments at this time. But Kiwi has said how he has been striping his GFF, so he should continue to use them.

Kiwi, if you go with the R7s and stink it up you will never forgive yourself for leaving the GFF at home. Alternatively if you take the R7s and pure it, you will forever wonder how much better you would have played with the GFF swinging it that good. Either way, there is only one answer to your question. Take the GFF.[/QUOTE]

NAH no disrespect to you I would never be disrespectful to anyone on this forum, but are you telling us that you are a want-a-be Mizuno GFF affectionado. Why settle for ground chuck when you can have a rib eye. I am sorry you a vegan .:D

GHD

[QUOTE=groundhogday]NAH no disrespect to you I would never be disrespectful to anyone on this forum, but are you telling us that you are a want-a-be Mizuno GFF affectionado. Why settle for ground chuck when you can have a rib eye. I am sorry you a vegan .:D

GHD[/QUOTE]
No offence taken. So I take it form your post that you have, on occassion, eaten ground chuck.

KIWI ma man,,, i belive darth vader summed this one up beautifully..

"USE THE FORGED LUKE"

thread closed//

Practice,Practice,Patience,Dont Tense up! may the forged be with you

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]This is actually intended to be a semi-serious post.

When I bought the GFF blades a month or two back they were supposed to be just a little experiment to see how hard blades really are to hit and also to see what all the GFF fuss was about. I planned to use them at the range and for the odd casual round on short knocking goat tracks where the perceived difficulty of hitting 'blades' would not be too punishing. However I am loving these clubs and hitting them beautifully. The 7, 8 & 9 irons are absolute pin seekers and I have been making more birdies than normal in the past few weeks thanks to getting them close. My chipping, usually with the 9 iron, has also improved and I have had several chip in pars and birdies lately too.

Last weekend I put my R7 TP's back in the bag on Sunday and hated them. However I was having an off day so I put them back in the bag on Tuesday night and tried again. I hit them much better than on Sunday but still didn't like the very muted feedback you get from them. They also look so oversize and bulky at address, you feel certain you are going to chunk it or hit it fat compared to the 33's which look like precision instruments at address. Last night I took the GFF out and was again hitting them sweetly. Now week by week this is fine. My dilemma is that I have my annual golfing trip to the South Island next week with about 10 of my buddies and we will playing 6 rounds of golf in 3 days on some pretty tough, championship layouts.

So my dilemma. I can't take both sets due to the weight so do I take the safe option and bag the old shovels that are more forgiving and I am familiar with or do I take the GFF blades? My fear is having a mid weekend meltdown with the blades and having no shovels to fall back on.

What do you golfing gurus reckon?

I'd better make this a poll.[/QUOTE]

2 Quick Questions.
Is this a LPGA event?
Will Natalie Gulbis be wearing a short, short shirt?
GHD

[QUOTE=groundhogday]2 Quick Questions.
Is this a LPGA event?
Will Natalie Gulbis be wearing a short, short shirt?
GHD[/QUOTE]

This is one of the pre-eminent golfing tournaments on the Southern Hemisphere Golfing calendar. It is a highly prestigious event by invitation only. The Kiwi Challenge and that Aussie Tournament across the ditch featuring some bloke named Tigger might be getting all the TV coverage but this tournament is where all the best golfers will actually be. Unfortunately Gulbis didn't make the cut.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]This is one of the pre-eminent golfing tournaments on the Southern Hemisphere Golfing calendar. It is a highly prestigious event by invitation only. The Kiwi Challenge and that Aussie Tournament across the ditch featuring some bloke named Tigger might be getting all the TV coverage but this tournament is where all the best golfers will actually be. Unfortunately Gulbis didn't make the cut.[/QUOTE]

Since the GR results appear conclusive are you going to abide by them and take the GFF?

Edgey

[QUOTE=edgey]Since the GR results appear conclusive are you going to abide by them and take the GFF?

Edgey[/QUOTE]

Of course. GR Polls are binding. I notice you haven't weighed in on this topic Edgey. I gave you my opinion on putting from off the green. Please enlighten me with your opinion on my dilemma?

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Of course. GR Polls are binding. I notice you haven't weighed in on this topic Edgey. I gave you my opinion on putting from off the green. Please enlighten me with your opinion on my dilemma?[/QUOTE]

I havent replied as i tend to act the goat here and i think that is an important question, since you have asked though........

If i was in your position (and i do have my BB still and have a big comp on Sunday) i would play the clubs i have the most confidence in. For me that would be my MX's, but i have been hitting them really well. To be fair the MX are not that far away, in principle, to the BB. They are certainly no harder to hit or any less forgiving so the decision is quite simple.

For you that does not seem to be so straightforward. I know that you only brought the MP33 as a bit of an experiment, to sort of get a feel for the GFF/Blade nonsense that goes on here. That you have hit them well up to now is great, however there does seem to be a big BUT though.

BUT will you have the confidence to hit them under the pressure of the upcoming games. Golf is a game of confidence and the fact that you have asked the question seems to suggest to me that you still do not have the confidence in them that i would want to ensure i could ENJOY my upcoming rounds.

Since you can only take one set i would take the one that in your heart of hearts you genuinely believe will give you the best chance of you enjoying the golf. If you can derive your enjoyment from knowing you are using GFF 33's regardless of how you play, great take em. If you are competetive and want to ensure you give yourself the best chance of playing the best golf you can take the TM.

If it was me i would take the TM as i am competetive and i dont think i would have the confidence in the Mizzies to play my best but thats just me wanting to give myself the best chance i could to play to my handicap.

You did ask mate

Edgey

That was beautiful Edgey, I agree take the clubs that will give you the most enjoyable round of golf with your buddies. Confidence goes a long way. I think the chipping v. putting thing is very similar. Most people will putt from off the green because they have low confidence in their chipping and it's easier to putt. But it is soooo much more satisfying to lay down a beautiful chip, but you need the confidence to do it in the first place. Anyway, it all boils down to fun....picture yourself in the fairway 170 yards out and which club will be more FUN to hit?

There you go edgey, we had just spent all this time and effort building Kiwi up to believe in himself, and you have to go and plant some doubt in his mind again. Good one, trust a pom to go negative on us.
Seriously though, I think the sooner Kiwi can get some GFF with a little forgivness in the bag the better. If he can play 33's then his swing is obviously pretty sound. They can be tough to hit on a bad ballstriking day.
I know that for this trip it is not possible, but some mp60's, 32's or similar has to be the complete answer to the GFF dilemma.

[QUOTE=mentaloaf]That was beautiful Edgey, I agree take the clubs that will give you the most enjoyable round of golf with your buddies. Confidence goes a long way. I think the chipping v. putting thing is very similar. Most people will putt from off the green because they have low confidence in their chipping and it's easier to putt. But it is soooo much more satisfying to lay down a beautiful chip, but you need the confidence to do it in the first place. Anyway, it all boils down to fun....picture yourself in the fairway 170 yards out and which club will be more FUN to hit?[/QUOTE]

Thanks, dont worry though the usual Edgey acerbic, sarcastic, arrogant, rude, dismissive, ireverrent, bombastic and generally twatish behaviour will be resumed real soon.

Edgey

[QUOTE=bjdrivers]this debate is older than HB's mom's vagina[/QUOTE]

BJ, The debate about ground chuck and rib eyes.

NAH I don't live in a capitallistic country like Australia that gives out tax cuts and employs its citizens. I live in the socialist republic of America so yes I do eat ground chuck.

GHD

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]This is one of the pre-eminent golfing tournaments on the Southern Hemisphere Golfing calendar. It is a highly prestigious event by invitation only. The Kiwi Challenge and that Aussie Tournament across the ditch featuring some bloke named Tigger might be getting all the TV coverage but this tournament is where all the best golfers will actually be. Unfortunately Gulbis didn't make the cut.[/QUOTE]

So are they paying Tiger an appearance fee.
GHD

[QUOTE=oldplayer]There you go edgey, we had just spent all this time and effort building Kiwi up to believe in himself, and you have to go and plant some doubt in his mind again. Good one, trust a pom to go negative on us.[/QUOTE]

Fūck me OP this is the most serious post i have made in months, at least give me some credit for trying to be constructive.

Trust a fūcking skippy to lay into a Pom for trying to be intelligent. Shame about the Ashes wasnt it............

Edgey

With a resounding 82% in favour of the blades I am definitely bound to take the GFF. In all honesty I went out and shot 78 this morning with the GFF in the bag. Only 1 birdie on a par 3. Apart from one chunked six iron that cost me a bogie the GFF hardly put a foot wrong. It was poor driving or average chipping that cost me most of the bogeys. The Drivers an old favourite that has been in the bag over 5 years.

Last week (admittedly on a shorter, easier track) I shot 77 including 3 birdies and it could have been better if not for a blow up 7 on a par 4. These scores are as good as it gets for me so the GFF are suiting me down to the ground.

This mornings round settled it. They're coming to Queenstown.

Thanks for all the replies, and Edgey I appreciate your honest assessment. In all honesty I am loving these clubs and when I took the TM's out this week I didn't like them. So for the moment the GFF are the clubs I have confidence in. I had pretty much made up my mind already. The fact I am asking is just to generate discussion. Not because I'm having doubts. Besides this is GR - did you really expect the poll result to be anything but a resounding win for the GFF???

Anyway, this mornings round sealed it.

Cheers
Kiwi

[QUOTE=oldplayer]There you go edgey, we had just spent all this time and effort building Kiwi up to believe in himself, and you have to go and plant some doubt in his mind again. Good one, trust a pom to go negative on us.
Seriously though, I think the sooner Kiwi can get some GFF with a little forgivness in the bag the better. If he can play 33's then his swing is obviously pretty sound. They can be tough to hit on a bad ballstriking day.
I know that for this trip it is not possible, but some mp60's, 32's or similar has to be the complete answer to the GFF dilemma.[/QUOTE]

Oldplayer how much more forgiving are the MP-32's? Remember I have the MP-30's in the 3-5 long irons. How much difference does it really make in the 7-PW?

[QUOTE=edgey]Thanks, dont worry though the usual Edgey acerbic, sarcastic, arrogant, rude, dismissive, ireverrent, bombastic and generally twatish behaviour will be resumed real soon.

Edgey[/QUOTE]


Too late. Once the real you becomes apparent, you can't fool us by pretending you're a prick.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]Too late. Once the real you becomes apparent, you can't fool us by pretending you're a prick.[/QUOTE]

I saw through that hard-arse exterior many moons ago and Edgey has even admitted that underneath he is as soft as butter.
But I am equally sure that all it will take is a little flaming and the GR Edgey will return with a vengence.