New sticks.

I was just down at the golf shop and saw a ridiculous price on a set of Ram TG 802 irons. They are obviously not the same quality as the old Tour Grinds, it looks like Ram has sold their name to a cheaper manufacturer, but they still felt and looked pretty good and were a reat price at $179 brand new for 3-pw with Rifle 5.0 shafts at 38.5 for the 5 iron. This set up is perfect for me and when I it them in the nets they felt awesome. I had just hit a Cally X 22 and a TM Burner plus as they were on special too, but after seeing and hitting the Rams I have no interest in getting anything else. They were so easy to hit and gave me the impression that they could be worked (no offset and midsized CBs with thin top lines. As much as I can't let a bargain like this slip by, the dilemna I have is that I can't pull the trigger just yet, as I put in a couple of stupid low bids on sets on ebay that are still live. One has a couple of hours and the other just over a day. They are a set of Tommy Armour Super Scot which I have bid up to $41 oin, and a set of Cally S2H2 3-pw plus 3 and 5 wood which I have bid up to $62 on. Both bids are currently just below my max so hopefully I will be outbid on both and can get the Rams. From experience I would be outbid on both items 99% of the time, but Murphy's law has had a strong influence on my 42 years on this planet, so I will probably win both. To make matters worse I think the Callys are about 37.5 for the 5 iron which is nearly an inch too short.

One thing I noticed from today's session is that the clubhead doesn't affect your ball striking as much as what shaft is in it. I've always teorised that the main reason most guys struggle with blades is because blades almost always come with stiff or extra stiff shafts, same goes for forged players cavitites. The Rams are a forged player cavity but I found them extremely forgiving with great feel, which I put down to the 5.0 shaft. I'm sure if I had hit the exact same club with a 6.0 shaft they would have felt awful. I hope things work out for me and I can get the Rams as it will be nice to havea forged player cavity back in the bag. Just fro a quick session in the nets I could feel my swing getting better from the greater feedback I was getting from them.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]I was just down at the golf shop and saw a ridiculous price on a set of Ram TG 802 irons. They are obviously not the same quality as the old Tour Grinds, it looks like Ram has sold their name to a cheaper manufacturer, but they still felt and looked pretty good and were a reat price at $179 brand new for 3-pw with Rifle 5.0 shafts at 38.5 for the 5 iron. This set up is perfect for me and when I it them in the nets they felt awesome. I had just hit a Cally X 22 and a TM Burner plus as they were on special too, but after seeing and hitting the Rams I have no interest in getting anything else. They were so easy to hit and gave me the impression that they could be worked (no offset and midsized CBs with thin top lines. As much as I can't let a bargain like this slip by, the dilemna I have is that I can't pull the trigger just yet, as I put in a couple of stupid low bids on sets on ebay that are still live. One has a couple of hours and the other just over a day. They are a set of Tommy Armour Super Scot which I have bid up to $41 oin, and a set of Cally S2H2 3-pw plus 3 and 5 wood which I have bid up to $62 on. Both bids are currently just below my max so hopefully I will be outbid on both and can get the Rams. From experience I would be outbid on both items 99% of the time, but Murphy's law has had a strong influence on my 42 years on this planet, so I will probably win both. To make matters worse I think the Callys are about 37.5 for the 5 iron which is nearly an inch too short.

One thing I noticed from today's session is that the clubhead doesn't affect your ball striking as much as what shaft is in it. I've always teorised that the main reason most guys struggle with blades is because blades almost always come with stiff or extra stiff shafts, same goes for forged players cavitites. The Rams are a forged player cavity but I found them extremely forgiving with great feel, which I put down to the 5.0 shaft. I'm sure if I had hit the exact same club with a 6.0 shaft they would have felt awful. I hope things work out for me and I can get the Rams as it will be nice to havea forged player cavity back in the bag. Just fro a quick session in the nets I could feel my swing getting better from the greater feedback I was getting from them.[/QUOTE]

Just withdraw your bids! Why buy what you dont want?

Edgey

[QUOTE=edgey]Just withdraw your bids! Why buy what you dont want?

Edgey[/QUOTE]
I didn't think you could withdraw. I wish I had have known that. I've ben outbid on the Calys but just won the Tommy Armours. I have a feeling the seller wouldn't have been happy with one bid and might negotiate him keeping them if I reimburse him the $8 or so for the auction. I won't make that offer sraight up though, I'll let him know that if wants to keep the clubs I'll let it slide. If worse comes to worse I'll pick em up for the $40 and see how they go. Who knows, they may be an awesome set of shovels. Picking these up won't stop me from getting the Rams, but ideally I'd rather not have another set of clubs sitting in the garage. I think I might start to try selling my older clubs on ebay. I think I would get maybe $50 plus for the fat shafts and I'd take $50 for the Ping copies as I've kept the lob wedge which was worth $50. I will keep the Powerbilts as a back up for the Rams if I get them. I also won't be getting the Rams straight away, I'll be paying them off over a few months so I'll need at least one set to play til I get them.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]I didn't think you could withdraw. I wish I had have known that. I've ben outbid on the Calys but just won the Tommy Armours. I have a feeling the seller wouldn't have been happy with one bid and might negotiate him keeping them if I reimburse him the $8 or so for the auction. I won't make that offer sraight up though, I'll let him know that if wants to keep the clubs I'll let it slide. If worse comes to worse I'll pick em up for the $40 and see how they go. Who knows, they may be an awesome set of shovels. Picking these up won't stop me from getting the Rams, but ideally I'd rather not have another set of clubs sitting in the garage. I think I might start to try selling my older clubs on ebay. I think I would get maybe $50 plus for the fat shafts and I'd take $50 for the Ping copies as I've kept the lob wedge which was worth $50. I will keep the Powerbilts as a back up for the Rams if I get them. I also won't be getting the Rams straight away, I'll be paying them off over a few months so I'll need at least one set to play til I get them.[/QUOTE]
If they are the original Tommy Armour Silver Scots 845s I think you will find them super accurate and you will like the offset on the longer irons since I think you like offsets, They are a bit hard and they kind of click when you hit them but they are very good playing. You did say Super scots though which I never heard of so it may be a different model alltogether.

[QUOTE=jetdriver]If they are the original Tommy Armour Silver Scots 845s I think you will find them super accurate and you will like the offset on the longer irons since I think you like offsets, They are a bit hard and they kind of click when you hit them but they are very good playing. You did say Super scots though which I never heard of so it may be a different model alltogether.[/QUOTE]
Definitely not Silver Scot 845. The look like cheap department store hacker paddles but at $40 I thought I'd see what happens. What can I say, I was bored, I was on ebay, I'm a gambler by nature, and I haven't won an auction in quite a while. They might be exactly what I'm looking for, but if nothing else they will be a good loan set if I'm hosting a hacker. SWMBO keeps saying she wants to try golf some day so they should be good for her too if she ever makes good on her threats.

In hindsight I probably shouldn't have bid for them, but I didn't know I'd find a new set of forged player CBs for under 200, and if I hadn't gone ot the glf shop and saw them I would probably be happy about winning an uaction for $40.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]Definitely not Silver Scot 845. The look like cheap department store hacker paddles but at $40 I thought I'd see what happens. What can I say, I was bored, I was on ebay, I'm a gambler by nature, and I haven't won an auction in quite a while. They might be exactly what I'm looking for, but if nothing else they will be a good loan set if I'm hosting a hacker. SWMBO keeps saying she wants to try golf some day so they should be good for her too if she ever makes good on her threats.

In hindsight I probably shouldn't have bid for them, but I didn't know I'd find a new set of forged player CBs for under 200, and if I hadn't gone ot the glf shop and saw them I would probably be happy about winning an uaction for $40.[/QUOTE]

Just go buy the the damn Rams and sell the sets you don't want. If SWMBO gives you any grief, just tell her that you are making money selling old sets. She doesn't need to know any different.

By the way, you can be forgiven for the Rams, but if you had won the Callys, your respect rating on here would have dropped from an 8 to a 3. As it is, your respect rating dropped two points just because you bid on a Callaway product.

NaH, Luke Donald proved yesterday that GFF is the superior product in golf. Taking on the best in the world, he single handedly beat them all in one of Golf's oldest and most respected formats with his Mizunos. It's time for you to quit experimenting with second and third rated products. You know better. Go ahead and find you a good set of Mizunos and start playing golf with your head held high. Even if you golf a 97, you at least can hold on to your dinner looking at them and you'll probably hit some shots that you can actually feel -- a feeling that is as close to sex as looking at a Pamela Anderson Playboy picture.

[quote=Not a hacker]I was just down at the golf shop and saw a ridiculous price on a set of Ram TG 802 irons. They are obviously not the same quality as the old Tour Grinds, it looks like Ram has sold their name to a cheaper manufacturer, but they still felt and looked pretty good and were a reat price at $179 brand new for 3-pw with Rifle 5.0 shafts at 38.5 for the 5 iron. This set up is perfect for me and when I it them in the nets they felt awesome. I had just hit a Cally X 22 and a TM Burner plus as they were on special too, but after seeing and hitting the Rams I have no interest in getting anything else. They were so easy to hit and gave me the impression that they could be worked (no offset and midsized CBs with thin top lines. As much as I can't let a bargain like this slip by, the dilemna I have is that I can't pull the trigger just yet, as I put in a couple of stupid low bids on sets on ebay that are still live. One has a couple of hours and the other just over a day. They are a set of Tommy Armour Super Scot which I have bid up to $41 oin, and a set of Cally S2H2 3-pw plus 3 and 5 wood which I have bid up to $62 on. Both bids are currently just below my max so hopefully I will be outbid on both and can get the Rams. From experience I would be outbid on both items 99% of the time, but Murphy's law has had a strong influence on my 42 years on this planet, so I will probably win both. To make matters worse I think the Callys are about 37.5 for the 5 iron which is nearly an inch too short.

One thing I noticed from today's session is that the clubhead doesn't affect your ball striking as much as what shaft is in it. I've always teorised that the main reason most guys struggle with blades is because blades almost always come with stiff or extra stiff shafts, same goes for forged players cavitites. The Rams are a forged player cavity but I found them extremely forgiving with great feel, which I put down to the 5.0 shaft. I'm sure if I had hit the exact same club with a 6.0 shaft they would have felt awful. I hope things work out for me and I can get the Rams as it will be nice to havea forged player cavity back in the bag. Just fro a quick session in the nets I could feel my swing getting better from the greater feedback I was getting from them.[/quote]


I tried looking up the Ram TG 802 irons on Google and this was the first image that came up. You sure like some strange irons. First some Powerbilt K-mart special brand and now this.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]I tried looking up the Ram TG 802 irons on Google and this was the first image that came up. You sure like some strange irons. First some Powerbilt K-mart special brand and now this.[/QUOTE]
That's the set with the Kali shafts.

[QUOTE=SoonerBS]Just go buy the the damn Rams and sell the sets you don't want. If SWMBO gives you any grief, just tell her that you are making money selling old sets. She doesn't need to know any different.

By the way, you can be forgiven for the Rams, but if you had won the Callys, your respect rating on here would have dropped from an 8 to a 3. As it is, your respect rating dropped two points just because you bid on a Callaway product.

NaH, Luke Donald proved yesterday that GFF is the superior product in golf. Taking on the best in the world, he single handedly beat them all in one of Golf's oldest and most respected formats with his Mizunos. It's time for you to quit experimenting with second and third rated products. You know better. Go ahead and find you a good set of Mizunos and start playing golf with your head held high. Even if you golf a 97, you at least can hold on to your dinner looking at them and you'll probably hit some shots that you can actually feel -- a feeling that is as close to sex as looking at a Pamela Anderson Playboy picture.[/QUOTE]

I remain happy that my respect factor is somewhere near zero on GR.

Funny but i have always suspected that looking at pictures in wank mags is the closest you come to sex, with a women anyway....

Edgey

[QUOTE=edgey]I remain happy that my respect factor is somewhere near zero on GR.

Funny but i have always suspected that looking at pictures in wank mags is the closest you come to sex, with a women anyway....

Edgey[/QUOTE]

Allow me to interpret my post, as close to sex as you can get without actually having sex is -- a Pamela Anderson naked pic (which can nearly make you cum just looking at) and hitting a GFF club on the sweet spot.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]Definitely not Silver Scot 845. The look like cheap department store hacker paddles but at $40 I thought I'd see what happens. What can I say, I was bored, I was on ebay, I'm a gambler by nature, and I haven't won an auction in quite a while. They might be exactly what I'm looking for, but if nothing else they will be a good loan set if I'm hosting a hacker. SWMBO keeps saying she wants to try golf some day so they should be good for her too if she ever makes good on her threats.

In hindsight I probably shouldn't have bid for them, but I didn't know I'd find a new set of forged player CBs for under 200, and if I hadn't gone ot the glf shop and saw them I would probably be happy about winning an uaction for $40.[/QUOTE]

The last thing I got for $40 was a tug job. I hope in your transaction you didn't get insulted about you endowment after letting it go all over the seller's face.

You have excellent taste. I'm strictly a MB guy, but those might be the best-looking cavities ever made. About 5 yrs. ago, House of Forged was offering a new set for $199 and I wish I'd bought them. By the way, everyone who can't benchpress 220 should be playing Rifle 5.0's anyway. I understand Luke Donald is married but I bet he could get more and better tang than anyone on tour if he tried.

[QUOTE=24putts]You have excellent taste. I'm strictly a MB guy, but those might be the best-looking cavities ever made. About 5 yrs. ago, House of Forged was offering a new set for $199 and I wish I'd bought them. By the way, everyone who can't benchpress 220 [B]should be playing Rifle 5.0's anyway[/B]. I understand Luke Donald is married but I bet he could get more and better tang than anyone on tour if he tried.[/QUOTE]

I'm playing these in my new irons and think they are excellent. They don't feel soft, just smooth and I'm getting good performance as you don't have to swing flat out to load them.

[QUOTE=Not a German]The last thing I got for $40 was a tug job. I hope in your transaction you didn't get insulted about you endowment after letting it go all over the seller's face.[/QUOTE]

You were overcharged IMHO. I mean, judging the whole event.

[QUOTE=24putts]You have excellent taste. I'm strictly a MB guy, but those might be the best-looking cavities ever made. About 5 yrs. ago, House of Forged was offering a new set for $199 and I wish I'd bought them. By the way, everyone who can't benchpress 220 should be playing Rifle 5.0's anyway. I understand Luke Donald is married but I bet he could get more and better tang than anyone on tour if he tried.[/QUOTE]
As I said, I can get them for $179. I rang the shop to put them aside today. They are a nice looking club, if not quite as quality looking as GFF.

From what you hear NOBODY on Tour gets more tang than Tommy Aromur III, although Tiger must have gone close.

[QUOTE=SoonerBS]Just go buy the the damn Rams and sell the sets you don't want. If SWMBO gives you any grief, just tell her that you are making money selling old sets. She doesn't need to know any different.

By the way, you can be forgiven for the Rams, but if you had won the Callys, your respect rating on here would have dropped from an 8 to a 3. As it is, your respect rating dropped two points just because you bid on a Callaway product.

NaH, Luke Donald proved yesterday that GFF is the superior product in golf. Taking on the best in the world, he single handedly beat them all in one of Golf's oldest and most respected formats with his Mizunos. It's time for you to quit experimenting with second and third rated products. You know better. Go ahead and find you a good set of Mizunos and start playing golf with your head held high. Even if you golf a 97, you at least can hold on to your dinner looking at them and you'll probably hit some shots that you can actually feel -- a feeling that is as close to sex as looking at a Pamela Anderson Playboy picture.[/QUOTE]
I am actually going to pay for the Rams by selling my old sets. I also might sell the 905R but will giveit a bit longer. I won't sell the Powerbilts either til after I get the Rams and see if I like them on the course, all clubs feel great in the nets but not always as great on course. The Powerbilts are great clubs, but I think that father time is catching up with me and the rifle 5.0 is better for me than the stiff shafts in the TPS 6.0s. I think I'll get $50-$100 for the Fat Shafts, and the same for the 905R if I sell it. I also have my Cally getting demoed at the moment for $50, so that will cover the entire cost of the Rams. I wasn't going to the golf shp to buy any sticks but a new set of forged player cavities for $179 is irresistable. I'd actually seen them there before but thought they were a little too blade like so I didn't really give it any thought. But after hitting them I was sold. It's gonna be tough waiting to take delivery, but I don't want to go into the red for these. I'll probably pick them up just in time for winter so I will have to start hititng them in the middle straight away or my hands are gonna know about it. I don't know if it was the shaft, or the weight, or the lie angle or what, but when I hit the Rams in the net I got every one of them flush out of the sweet spot, just of centre towards the heel, about a quarter way up from the bottom. The first five shots I hit looked like I had hit only one shot by the mark left on the tape, it was perfect contact one shot after another. I'm starting to think that maybe the reason I shot such low scores with the Powerbilts when I first got them was down to my improved ball striking from using the Zoids. Maybe my swing has got sloppy over the last 12 months from using shovels.

The Rams may not be GFF, but I think I'm finally going back to the light.

NAH are your finances really that tight? Or is it that SWMBO won't sanction any spending on golf gear. You have to wait until winter to come up with 170 bucks??
If you carry on this way the GR boys will think you are unemployed living in your mothers basement. :p
Just go and buy the friggin things tomorrow and be done with it!
Do you have a car? How long did it take you to save up for that. :D

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]I am actually going to pay for the Rams by selling my old sets. I also might sell the 905R but will giveit a bit longer. I won't sell the Powerbilts either til after I get the Rams and see if I like them on the course, all clubs feel great in the nets but not always as great on course. The Powerbilts are great clubs, but I think that father time is catching up with me and the rifle 5.0 is better for me than the stiff shafts in the TPS 6.0s. I think I'll get $50-$100 for the Fat Shafts, and the same for the 905R if I sell it. I also have my Cally getting demoed at the moment for $50, so that will cover the entire cost of the Rams. I wasn't going to the golf shp to buy any sticks but a new set of forged player cavities for $179 is irresistable. I'd actually seen them there before but thought they were a little too blade like so I didn't really give it any thought. But after hitting them I was sold. It's gonna be tough waiting to take delivery, but I don't want to go into the red for these. I'll probably pick them up just in time for winter so I will have to start hititng them in the middle straight away or my hands are gonna know about it. I don't know if it was the shaft, or the weight, or the lie angle or what, but when I hit the Rams in the net I got every one of them flush out of the sweet spot, just of centre towards the heel, about a quarter way up from the bottom. The first five shots I hit looked like I had hit only one shot by the mark left on the tape, it was perfect contact one shot after another. I'm starting to think that maybe the reason I shot such low scores with the Powerbilts when I first got them was down to my improved ball striking from using the Zoids. Maybe my swing has got sloppy over the last 12 months from using shovels.

[B]The Rams may not be GFF, but I think I'm finally going back to the light[/B].[/QUOTE]

Keep moving towards the light NAH. GFF and 4 strokes off your cap awaits when you finally emerge from the eternal darkness you have suffered these past two years.

[QUOTE=oldplayer]NAH are your finances really that tight? Or is it that SWMBO won't sanction any spending on golf gear. You have to wait until winter to come up with 170 bucks??
If you carry on this way the GR boys will think you are unemployed living in your mothers basement. :p
Just go and buy the friggin things tomorrow and be done with it!
Do you have a car? How long did it take you to save up for that. :D[/QUOTE]
Things are tight right at the moment. We're not broke, but we are on a long term budget to be able to buy a house in a couple of years and are trying to put a little more money away. We have a unit we are paying off, but with the new arrival we would like to get a house within the next 5 years. I could obviously afford the $179, but where will it all end? And SWMBO has a knack of making me feel guilty about 'wasting' money on golf gear. And I must admit that, like most people on this forum, I have a problem with ho'ing. It's all relative and I'm certainly in the mild end of the scale dollar wise, but I still think I should at least try to curb my ho'ing.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Keep moving towards the light NAH. GFF and 4 strokes off your cap awaits when you finally emerge from the eternal darkness you have suffered these past two years.[/QUOTE]
We've all said it before, but I really think the Rams may be the clubs which will finally make me settle down and stop ho'ing. I've only hit them in the nets, but the feel off the mats was right up there with the Zoid Pro IIs, maybe even smoother because of the shaft.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]We've all said it before, [B]but I really think the Rams may be the clubs which will finally make me settle down and stop ho'ing[/B]. I've only hit them in the nets, but the feel off the mats was right up there with the Zoid Pro IIs, maybe even smoother because of the shaft.[/QUOTE]

LOL - this is extremely wishful thinking :D but it's a definite step in the right direction!

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]Things are tight right at the moment. We're not broke, but we are on a long term budget to be able to buy a house in a couple of years and are trying to put a little more money away. We have a unit we are paying off, but with the new arrival we would like to get a house within the next 5 years. I could obviously afford the $179, but where will it all end? And SWMBO has a knack of making me feel guilty about 'wasting' money on golf gear. And I must admit that, like most people on this forum, I have a problem with ho'ing. It's all relative and I'm certainly in the mild end of the scale dollar wise, but I still think I should at least try to curb my ho'ing.[/QUOTE]

It's commendable that you are conservative with your budget but spending $179 on an old set of irons is hardly being caught in the grip of a terrible hoing addiction.
Good luck with getting into a bigger place; it's a tough thing to do in Sydney. I'm not sure you'll notice the $179 for the clubs though compared to the half a mill minimum you will need for a house.

[QUOTE=oldplayer]It's commendable that you are conservative with your budget but spending $179 on an old set of irons is hardly being caught in the grip of a terrible hoing addiction.
Good luck with getting into a bigger place; it's a tough thing to do in Sydney. I'm not sure you'll notice the $179 for the clubs though compared to the half a mill minimum you will need for a house.[/QUOTE]
They are actually brand new, still in the plastic. As for the bigger place, I know what you're saying, but if we can stick to a budget and consistently save money it will not only raise the rest of the deposit (I want to put down at least 40%), but it will also make me feel more comfortable about getting a bigger mortgage. I live out in western Sydney so I could probably pick something up for $450,000, which is probably about 10K out of my comfort zone after taking assets into account. On my wage I wouldn't be comfortable with a mortgage anything over $250K, and we want to keep a good pool of savings and not pump everything into a mortgage. If we were the type of family who wanted to live like paupers we could get a house now (most people in a house do), but there would be sacrifices to make, and I don't want to start talk about not doing stuff, if you get my drift. I'd rather live in a cramped unit and play golf than get a big house and not afford to ever leave it.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]They are actually brand new, still in the plastic. As for the bigger place, I know what you're saying, but if we can stick to a budget and consistently save money it will not only raise the deposit, but it will also make me feel more comfortable about getting a bigger mortgage. I live out in western Sydney so I could probably pick something up for $450,000, which is probably about 10K out of my comfort zone after taking assets into account. On my wage I wouldn't be comfortable with a mortgage anythig over $250K, and we want to keep a good pool of savings and not pump everything into a mortgage. If we were the type of family who wanted to live like paupers we could get a house now (most people in a house do), but there would be sacrifices to make, and I don't want to start talk about not doing stuff, if you get my drift. I'd rather live in a cramped unit and play golf than get a big house and not afford to ever leave it.[/QUOTE]

Yes I agree. You have to have some enjoyment in life. There is no point in working like a slave and being in chains to a mortgage just to keep up with the Jones's. I'm sure as you family grows you would appreciate a bigger place though. i am in the opposite position. My son has left home and we have too much room in our place. Although I need a couple of rooms to keep my clubs in. :)

[QUOTE=oldplayer]Yes I agree. You have to have some enjoyment in life. There is no point in working like a slave and being in chains to a mortgage just to keep up with the Jones's. I'm sure as you family grows you would appreciate a bigger place though. i am in the opposite position. My son has left home and we have too much room in our place. Although I need a couple of rooms to keep my clubs in. :)[/QUOTE]
It must be a strange feeling having the place to yourself again. It will be at least 20 years before that happens to me though.

Congrats on getting to 4.2 too. I've always thought that 4 is the bench mark for real good golf. 4 is the cut off for vardon events, and seems to be a magic number that only good golfers can get to.

[QUOTE=oldplayer]Yes I agree. You have to have some enjoyment in life. There is no point in working like a slave and being in chains to a mortgage just to keep up with the Jones's. I'm sure as you family grows you would appreciate a bigger place though. i am in the opposite position. [B]My son has left home and we have too much room in our place. Although I need a couple of rooms to keep my clubs in.[/B] :)[/QUOTE]

I'm glad you corrected yourself! :)

I was about to say you will need a bigger house to cope with your growing golf club collection. :D SWMBO is fine with me buying new clubs but she doesn't like me collecting more clubs. I don't think she will tolerate anymore clubs in addition to the 3 sets of irons I already have along with excess spare wedges, fairway woods and demo clubs etc

I mentioned something to her yesterday about a new set of irons and she gave me a look that said "No way buddy!"

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]It must be a strange feeling having the place to yourself again. It will be at least 20 years before that happens to me though.

Congrats on getting to 4.2 too. I've always thought that 4 is the bench mark for real good golf. 4 is the cut off for vardon events, and seems to be a magic number that only good golfers can get to.[/QUOTE]

Thanks NAH. Now the challenge is to stay there! Although i have noticed my attitude and expectations have changed. i now play expecting to par most holes and am comfortable with that. it has taken many years to genuinely achieve that confidence and mindset.

I am actually enjoying being an empty nester. It is very peacefull and you can do whatever you like when you like. In the last week i have played golf in comps Wed, Sat, Sun, Mon and i am having a game tomorrow as well. Then I am of to Barnbougle for a 4 day long weekend. It's tough but someone has to do it. :D

I think it's good to have multiple sets. Maybe not as many as OP, but he's more of a collector than a Clubho. I like having my 3 sets. I get along with all of them and they each bring a little something different to my game. What is great is that if I have a bad round, I can take the set home and put them in the closet. Everyone knows that a week or so in the closet for being naughty, will cure whatever demons your clubs have picked up. Since I golf nearly every day, I can have a set in the closet, be playing a set on the course, and have another set ready to go.

I also clean and maintain my clubs regularly. I don't go a week without cleaning my clubs. Usually, whenever I bring them home to clean them, I will also rotate another set in to play for a while.

I haven't looked to ho another set of clubs since I got rid of the PING Eye 2 shovels.

[quote=Not a hacker]Things are tight right at the moment. We're not broke, but we are on a long term budget to be able to buy a house in a couple of years and are trying to put a little more money away. We have a unit we are paying off, but with the new arrival we would like to get a house within the next 5 years. I could obviously afford the $179, but where will it all end? And SWMBO has a knack of making me feel guilty about 'wasting' money on golf gear. And I must admit that, like most people on this forum, I have a problem with ho'ing. It's all relative and I'm certainly in the mild end of the scale dollar wise, but I still think I should at least try to curb my ho'ing.[/quote]

Actually, NAH, I think you and I have a lot in common when it comes to how we spend money on golf clubs. I may go through a lot of clubs but I never buy anything unless I'm getting a deal and I hardly ever spend more than $200 on a set of irons. I saw that set of Rams you're talking about and they look pretty damn good. I had never heard of them before you mentioned them. Good luck.

Speaking of new sticks or old sticks, I have decided to bag the Titleist 990 irons for awhile. I simply score better when I have these irons in the bag. They are the most solid feeling iron that I've ever tried. Not as soft as a Mizuno but definitely more solid feeling. I will bag them and I will hopefully be ready for Dave and River in May.

[quote=Not a hacker]Things are tight right at the moment. We're not broke, but we are on a long term budget to be able to buy a house in a couple of years and are trying to put a little more money away. We have a unit we are paying off, but with the new arrival we would like to get a house within the next 5 years. I could obviously afford the $179, but where will it all end? And SWMBO has a knack of making me feel guilty about 'wasting' money on golf gear. And I must admit that, like most people on this forum, I have a problem with ho'ing. It's all relative and I'm certainly in the mild end of the scale dollar wise, but I still think I should at least try to curb my ho'ing.[/quote]

I feel bad for all the people around here that make uber sacrifices such as not playing golf at all to get into an expensive home who have since lost them to the downturn and real estate crash. And that includes a large percentage of homes and homeowners. The only real time to buy is after one of those inevitable crashes, whether at that point you can afford it or not. The net worth consequence of buying at the right time dwarfs all other considerations.

The only other advice I'd give is to never put shelter ahead of your golf, family or not. If it's big enough to cook in, it's big enough.

[quote=lorenzoinoc]I feel bad for all the people around here that make uber sacrifices such as not playing golf at all to get into an expensive home who have since lost them to the downturn and real estate crash. And that includes a large percentage of homes and homeowners. The only real time to buy is after one of those inevitable crashes, whether at that point you can afford it or not. The net worth consequence of buying at the right time dwarfs all other considerations.

The only other advice I'd give is to never put shelter ahead of your golf, family or not. If it's big enough to cook in, it's big enough.[/quote]

The problem is knowing when the right time is to buy. Some people thought that the real estate market had bottomed out two years ago. As we've all seen it's continued to go down to this day. I bought a home 5 months ago but that was more out of necessity than trying to time the market. I got a good deal, a great mortgage rate and I'm pretty satisfied. I could have rented a home and tried to wait for the market to go down even further (as it turns out it has) but then we would have been renting and possibly would have had to change schools for my daughter, etc.

I bought at the first slight downturn 2007. The problem is that they sold me a brand new Chineese drywall contaminated house that was inspected and approved by everybody and their mother, and now it seems that the rule of law does not exist in this country. Now some govenment subsidized pseudo bank company pushed by the h0m0barney at capitol hill is claiming they have the right to swindle multiple hundreds of thousands of bucks from me. This gov. front company bought up morgages and is now in my opinion extorting victims of a crime. This country has become a mob operation.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]Actually, NAH, I think you and I have a lot in common when it comes to how we spend money on golf clubs. I may go through a lot of clubs but I never buy anything unless I'm getting a deal and I hardly ever spend more than $200 on a set of irons. I saw that set of Rams you're talking about and they look pretty damn good. I had never heard of them before you mentioned them. Good luck.[/QUOTE]
I haven't spent more than one hundred on any golf purchase the last 2 years. I always liked the look of these Rams (I first saw them about 5 years ago), but I assumed they would be hard to hit so I ever bothered demoing them. I just hope they play as good as they feel in the nets.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]The problem is knowing when the right time is to buy. Some people thought that the real estate market had bottomed out two years ago. As we've all seen it's continued to go down to this day. I bought a home 5 months ago but that was more out of necessity than trying to time the market. I got a good deal, a great mortgage rate and I'm pretty satisfied. I could have rented a home and tried to wait for the market to go down even further (as it turns out it has) but then we would have been renting and possibly would have had to change schools for my daughter, etc.[/QUOTE]
Of course you can't time it perfectly, in fact, to try to do that is bad strategy. But it's easy to tell when things are silly in overvalue, likewise when they're 40% or more off the peak. I bought my current almost 50% off the peak. If before things recover they go down another 10-20% I'm not concerned although I'm at market today as I kind of stole mine.

Timing the market can definitely be done, it's mostly how I made my bones. Family for sure complicates things but you can still figure out where you want to buy and rent there.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]I haven't spent more than one hundred on any golf purchase the last 2 years. I always liked the look of these Rams (I first saw them about 5 years ago), but I assumed they would be hard to hit so I ever bothered demoing them. I just hope they play as good as they feel in the nets.[/QUOTE]

You're up awful early this morning, aren't you?

[QUOTE=famousdavis]Speaking of new sticks or old sticks, I have decided to bag the Titleist 990 irons for awhile. I simply score better when I have these irons in the bag. They are the most solid feeling iron that I've ever tried. Not as soft as a Mizuno but definitely more solid feeling. I will bag them and I will hopefully be ready for Dave and River in May.[/QUOTE]

My FG17s are ready for your 990s.

[QUOTE=SoonerBS]You're up awful early this morning, aren't you?[/QUOTE]
I had to check something on ebay before work, adn thought I'd check in as my filter won't allow me into forums on work time. Luckily I just figured out how to bypass the filter so I'm here in a break from my repetitive dat entry work I'm doing this week.

I just got a message on ebay from the seller of the Tommy Armours I purchased. He agreed to cancel the transaction so I'm free to get the Rams. I'm going down there today to put the deposit down, but before I do I might take my 6 iron down to compare head to head with the Rams to be sure I'm not throwing money away. If I go ahead I should pick them up in the next couple of weeks.

[QUOTE=jetdriver]I bought at the first slight downturn 2007. The problem is that they sold me a brand new Chineese drywall contaminated house that was inspected and approved by everybody and their mother, and now it seems that the rule of law does not exist in this country. Now some govenment subsidized pseudo bank company pushed by the h0m0barney at capitol hill is claiming they have the right to swindle multiple hundreds of thousands of bucks from me. This gov. front company bought up morgages and is now in my opinion extorting victims of a crime. This country has become a mob operation.[/QUOTE]

You seem a little angry, have you overdone the coffee a little?

[QUOTE=edgey]You seem a little angry, have you overdone the coffee a little?[/QUOTE]

Are you serious? You haven't heard about the Chinese drywall scandal that renders homes impossible to live in?

Jetdriver posted pretty diplomatically, for getting ripped off like he did...

Edgey, you really don't know about it? --> [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Chinese_drywall_controversy[/url]

To answer your question, Edgey, jetdriver is more than a little angry; he is extremely pissed off.

p.s. chinks like qtard, the shadow dwelling sh!t thrower did this. Chink!

[quote=spanqdoggie]Are you serious? You haven't heard about the Chinese drywall scandal that renders homes impossible to live in?

Jetdriver posted pretty diplomatically, for getting ripped off like he did...

Edgey, you really don't know about it? --> [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Chinese_drywall_controversy"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Chinese_drywall_controversy[/URL]

To answer your question, Edgey, jetdriver is more than a little angry; he is extremely pissed off.

p.s. chinks like qtard, the shadow dwelling sh!t thrower did this. Chink![/quote]

Spank, you are in construction. How much would it cost to have the drywall replaced in a 2,000 sf home? Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, you'd also have to replace all of the baseboard, crown molding and door molding and then retexture and repaint everything. Any cabinets that were placed over the drywall would have to be replaced and then put back in.

[QUOTE=spanqdoggie]Are you serious? You haven't heard about the Chinese drywall scandal that renders homes impossible to live in?

Jetdriver posted pretty diplomatically, for getting ripped off like he did...

Edgey, you really don't know about it? --> [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Chinese_drywall_controversy[/url]

To answer your question, Edgey, jetdriver is more than a little angry; he is extremely pissed off.

p.s. chinks like qtard, the shadow dwelling sh!t thrower did this. Chink![/QUOTE]

Frankly (living in the UK) i had never heard of this.

It seems that qtard is going to get more stick than ever on GR lol

Edgey

PS Will we ever hear from qtard again?

[QUOTE=famousdavis]Spank, you are in construction. How much would it cost to have the drywall replaced in a 2,000 sf home? Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, you'd also have to replace all of the baseboard, crown molding and door molding and then retexture and repaint everything. Any cabinets that were placed over the drywall would have to be replaced and then put back in.[/QUOTE]
It's not just the drywall FD. All the elecrical wiring has to be redone. anything with copper or silver, pipes, fixtures, AC coils etc. Originally the lawyers were trying to get the whole house torn down and redone since no one can prove to me that Sulfuric gas and other emitted gasses have not been absorbed into the concrete block walls in the 3-4 year period and could be emitted later on. but that was turned down. The banks have tried to pretend that they are doing something by giving victims what I believe are predetory contracts that put homeowners in financial jeapardy and give unlimited rights to the banks to take their money and their homes as they wish. The banks are milking the taxpayers and victims both through the mortgage insurance scam for any losses while double dipping at the victims wallets for any missed payments which continue to accrue and are collected whenever the bank puts the boot to the victims' neck (as per their alleged predatory contracts). Its a scam In m opinion. It has been proven that there was fraud from the begining. It has now been proven that many knew and others should have known that the drywall emitted abnormal gasses/smells and a active coverup was started as early as late 2006. Builders were warned to stay away from the chink drywall, the industry generally knew...yet they covered it up and inspectors and appraisers did nothing to factor it into their official documents. Absolute fraud!!!!! This country Is lawless. I would not be surprised if the walls are radio active too.

[QUOTE=edgey]Frankly (living in the UK) i had never heard of this.

It seems that qtard is going to get more stick than ever on GR lol

Edgey

PS [B]Will we ever hear from qtard again?[/B][/QUOTE]

Well he came out fighting initially didn't he? Completely justifying his actions and then turning it around and telling us we are a bunch of old creeps that need to get a life. However the silence has been deafening since Big Dave put him in his place.

I don't care about you guys/girls/AC-DC and I am going back in time with my Callaway 2002 BB irons and GBB II driver... NOTHING better out there for me, NOTHING

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Well he came out fighting initially didn't he? Completely justifying his actions and then turning it around and telling us we are a bunch of old creeps that need to get a life. However the silence has been deafening since Big Dave put him in his place.[/QUOTE]

Yes his defence was a wee bit "weak" lol

I assume we will never hear from him again, until he wins the Masters and we can all go "i remember that c unt when he walked off a GR sanctioned event leaving his partners to fend for themselves, slagging off their slow play and then playing with someone else while they were still on HIS course"

Then again he may melt into the abyss of mediocrity and he will end up an unknown being ass raped in a seedy gay porn movie. Perhaps we should make it a Poll.

Edgey

[QUOTE=Pky6471]I don't care about you guys/girls/AC-DC and [B]I am going back in time with my Callaway 2002 BB irons and GBB II driver... NOTHING better out there for me[/B], NOTHING[/QUOTE]

Nothing like having trusty old sticks in the bag. :)

[quote=jetdriver]It's not just the drywall FD. All the elecrical wiring has to be redone. anything with copper or silver, pipes, fixtures, AC coils etc. Originally the lawyers were trying to get the whole house torn down and redone since no one can prove to me that Sulfuric gas and other emitted gasses have not been absorbed into the concrete block walls in the 3-4 year period and could be emitted later on. but that was turned down. The banks have tried to pretend that they are doing something by giving victims what I believe are predetory contracts that put homeowners in financial jeapardy and give unlimited rights to the banks to take their money as they wish. The banks are milking the taxpayers and victims through the mortgage insurance scam for any losses while double dipping at the victims wallet for any missed payments which continue to accrue and collected whenever the bank puts the boot to the victims' neck (as per their alleged predatory contracts. Its a scam that has been proven that it was fraud from the begining. It has now been proven that they knew or should have known that the drywall emitted abnormal gasses/smells and a active coverup was started as early as late 2006. Builders were warned to stay away from the chink drwall, the industry generally knew...yet they all covered it up and inspectors and appraisers did nothing to factor it into their official documents. Absolute fraud!!!!! This country Is lawless. I would not be surprised if the walls are radio active too.[/quote]
First, sorry that you're having to deal with something like this.

Second, there's another malfeasant who could turn out to be more evil than even manufacturers. That would be "environmental consultants". They and their industry have made it their mission to find products from which they can generate fees. Whether there's credence to something isn't their primary concern. Once on the table it's hard to prove a negative in response to embellished research combined with one dumb jury. Countless people then can get impaled on the horns of a phantom issue.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]First, sorry that you're having to deal with something like this.

Second, there's another malfeasant who could turn out to be more evil than even manufacturers. That would be "environmental consultants". They and their industry have made it their mission to find products from which they can generate fees. Whether there's credence to something isn't their primary concern. Once on the table it's hard to prove a negative in response to embellished research combined with one dumb jury. Countless people then can get impaled on the horns of a phantom issue.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Zo. Yes that Phantom had both horns up my as$ I feel a third one slipping in lately it must not be a horn this time LOL. Seriously thanks for the insight it may explain a few things.

[quote=lorenzoinoc]First, sorry that you're having to deal with something like this.

Second, there's another malfeasant who could turn out to be more evil than even manufacturers. That would be "environmental consultants". They and their industry have made it their mission to find products from which they can generate fees. Whether there's credence to something isn't their primary concern. Once on the table it's hard to prove a negative in response to embellished research combined with one dumb jury. Countless people then can get impaled on the horns of a phantom issue.[/quote]

Yep, sold my house back in 2008 and the inspector did a mold test. We had to tear out my entire bathroom and get rid of the mold. Cost around $8,000. It's a scam.

[quote=famousdavis]Yep, sold my house back in 2008 and the inspector did a mold test. We had to tear out my entire bathroom and get rid of the mold. Cost around $8,000. It's a scam.[/quote]

Mold
EMF (power lines)
lead in water
lead in paint
asbestos

Legitimate issues (if any) are outnumbered by b.s. ones.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]Mold
EMF (power lines)
lead in water
lead in paint
asbestos

Legitimate issues (if any) are outnumbered by b.s. ones.[/QUOTE]
The chink drywall issue is for real. it has turned everthing made of copper and silver into charcoal like rubbing your finger on a BBQ grill. FD should see the picture I have in my GR gallery of my Ping Bcopper sandwedge.

[quote=jetdriver]The chink drywall issue is for real. it has turned everthing made of copper and silver into charcoal like rubbing your finger on a BBQ grill. FD should see the picture I have in my GR gallery of my Ping Bcopper sandwedge.[/quote]

Heaven help us if these guys actually have a real issue to leverage, since we've seen what they're capable of doing with the phantom ones.

I guess it's not surprising that if one goes for for Chinese dry-wall, a short time later they need more.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]Heaven help us if these guys actually have a real issue to leverage, since we've seen what they're capable of doing with the phantom ones.

I guess it's not surprising that if one goes for for Chinese dry-wall, a short time later they need more.[/QUOTE]
That is right. They are milking this for all its worth. That must be why I am out of fluids. Unfortunately I must be the cow tit and not the collection bucket.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Nothing like having trusty old sticks in the bag. :)[/QUOTE]
You know it... Kiwiman... U know it...:)

I thought I'd share this craigslist ad if anyone is interested. Where else can you get a combo of golf clubs, beer and horseshoes? Plus, one of the wedges is a Ping!!

[QUOTE=famousdavis]Spank, you are in construction. How much would it cost to have the drywall replaced in a 2,000 sf home? Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, you'd also have to replace all of the baseboard, crown molding and door molding and then retexture and repaint everything. Any cabinets that were placed over the drywall would have to be replaced and then put back in.[/QUOTE]

Famous, you are local, so I am not going to get angry with you, since you are a home slice...

So let's get real. I mean no disrespect; allow me to explain...

Your question is akin to asking how much a 4 door car costs... well, is it a Kia, a Mercedes AMG with 600 hp, or a Honda Civic? How does one give a price to your question? ... and it also differs on the costs of the particular state, continent one lives in...

I just remodeled a small 12x12 kitchen, and I asked for level 5 sheetrocking on everything; cost was $1600... yes! level 5 on the side where the cabinets, and tile were going to be completely covered... Homeowner was fickle, so I didn't want her staring at a wall that looked 'wrong' for a week until the cabinets arrived... Every job is different.

We did a bathroom (10x10) just outside of Pacific Height that cost $200000, for real... We made only labor, because the designer has a rich father that feeds the girl jobs... Imported tile from Italy really drives the price up... This girl got all the markup, and she was YOUNG (22?) She 'owned' her own house in Pacific Heights that her father bought her...

Oh ha ha, have you guys read how Google won't hire anyone without a Phd? Well, I do work on their mansions sometimes; you wanna watch a piss ant young billionaire get on his knees before a party, become a General Contractor. He doesn't do that anymore; he got older; he hired someone else to do that... Gold covered cakes and... oh don't get me started...

There is one crazy Google b!tch worth a billion that never pays her contractors also...didn't happen to me, but she won't pay, and likes to pay the lawyers instead; happened to a friend of mine; he finally got a judgment in his favor, but he only broke even a little...

NEVER trust anybody.

So my point is... there is not an exact cost for a 2000 square foot sheet rock job...

My rough guess for sheetrock, here in sf would be around 5-12 thousand for a clean permitted home remodel; but you can't throw figures out without seeing the job...

Jetdriver got screwed over; that sheetrock destroys the electrical and plumbing, and you can't even breathe in the damn houses... scam.

This did not happen in California.

straight up rambling off the top of my head,

spank

p.s. How much does a wedge cost? A wedge can cost $600 or a dollar.

One manufacturer has started a pilot program to redo just a few houses. They are budgeting 3 months and $100,000 per house.

Hey, NaH, a hacker on our course has an old set of T-Zoids, 3-PW that he wants to get rid of so he can buy some set of Nickent shovels in the clubhouse shop. The sweet spots have the chrome wore off like my MP-33s, but other than that they are in used, but good shape. My buddy and I asked him how much he wanted for them and he said $100.00. My buddy told him we wanted to play a little with them and hit them before he sold them and he said he would let us. I don't know what kind of shafts are on them as there are no labels left on them, but I am assuming they are likely some DG shafts of either regular or stiff-lite shafts. I told my buddy I would buy them for the $100.00 if he doesn't want them. He's a screwing, stupid ass PING player so I don't think he will want them. I'm hoping he doesn't. The only thing is he does like to buy sets and resell them. I told him I wanted to buy them though so he will probably let me have them if he doesn't want them. I'm anxious to try them out.

[quote=jetdriver]One manufacturer has started a pilot program to redo just a few houses. They are budgeting 3 months and $100,000 per house.[/quote]
Have you joined some sort of class action for this? Do you know who sold the drywall to the your sub-contractor?

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]Have you joined some sort of class action for this? Do you know who sold the drywall to the your sub-contractor?[/QUOTE]
Oh Yes, I am on the big Class Action multi district bit.... have been from the begining.
We know who did it who installed it all that. It is just that the banks could not give a Sheite that all this was fraud and nobody wants to pay for any thing. The loss of use of my house for years is my biggest loss.

[quote=jetdriver]Oh Yes, I am on the big Class Action multi district bit.... have been from the begining.
We know who did it who installed it all that. It is just that the banks could not give a Sheite that all this was fraud and nobody wants to pay for any thing. The loss of use of my house for years is my biggest loss.[/quote]

If the manufacturers have deep enough pockets then at least there's someone to go after, although it sounds like alot of exposure.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]If the manufacturers have deep enough pockets then at least there's someone to go after, although it sounds like alot of exposure.[/QUOTE]
You forget they are Chineese and they own our national debt. There is more here than meets the eye. FEMA would have treated this like a "man made disaster" if this was still America as I knew it. Could you imagine paying $3,000 per month for a useless house that you can not use for the purpose you bought it for , you can not sell it, rent it out ....nothing! The county has assessed my home building value at $0.00 yet the same bank that approved said home for the loan still is allowed to collect $ 3,000 per month indefinately and require full insurance even though the property has no value as assesed by the county. Honestly I am starting to think the Class Action is funded by the banks...just my observation, not that it is. There were a couple of independent cases that where won in court in the millon+$ range but my attorney says that they will never collect on that. One other attorney settled 2 sealed ndipendent cases that really set the case back for it was going to be a landmark case... a real sell out.

[quote=jetdriver]You forget they are Chineese and they own our national debt. There is more here than meets the eye. FEMA would have treated this like a "man made disaster" if this was still America as I knew it. Could you imagine paying $3,000 per month for a useless house that you can not use for the purpose you bought it for , you can not sell it, rent it out ....nothing! The county has assessed my home building value at $0.00 yet the same bank that approved said home for the loan still is allowed to collect $ 3,000 per month indefinately and require full insurance even though the property has no value as assesed by the county. Honestly I am starting to think the Class Action is funded by the banks...just my observation, not that it is. There were a couple of independent cases that where won in court in the millon+$ range but my attorney says that they will never collect on that. One other attorney settled 2 sealed ndipendent cases that really set the case back for it was going to be a landmark case... a real sell out.[/quote]

Your best shot would have been if an American company with deep pockets were contracting for manufacture in China. But builders are still liable for defects, depending upon the laws in a particular state. This may explain why a friend of mine's been spending alot of time in Florida doing construction defect lawsuits. That's a disreputable area in which I would never get involved.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]Your best shot would have been if an American company with deep pockets were contracting for manufacture in China. But builders are still liable for defects, depending upon the laws in a particular state. This may explain why a friend of mine's been spending alot of time in Florida doing construction defect lawsuits. That's a disreputable area in which I would never get involved.[/QUOTE]
In my case it was a German company working out of china, and the local builder actually closed shop and went out of business right after he got paid for these houses- a real Shlock POS. And yes Florida is the headquarters for crooks and felons of all flavors.
Not all builders are shlocks I have a client of mine that fixed 2 houses he had built defectively before they even asked him to.

Back on the topic of my new sticks, I have reneged on the Rams and won't be geting them. I was hitting the Powerbilts like days of old today, and I have decided that it isn' the clubs that are the problem it's my swing. When I'm swinging well I honestly don't think any club could beat the butterfeel of the Powerbilts. The Rams also felt great but certainly no better than the buttery TPS 6.0s, and I think the Rams would have a smaller sweet spot. I think the Rams would be more workable, but I'm a mid cap amatuer, why would I want ot complicate things further by trying to work the ball? I think if I went ahead with the Rams I would like them but would eventually go back to the Powerbilts. I can transfer the deposit to anything else in the shop so I might treat myself to 2 dozen Z stars instead.

[QUOTE=SoonerBS]Hey, NaH, a hacker on our course has an old set of T-Zoids, 3-PW that he wants to get rid of so he can buy some set of Nickent shovels in the clubhouse shop. The sweet spots have the chrome wore off like my MP-33s, but other than that they are in used, but good shape. My buddy and I asked him how much he wanted for them and he said $100.00. My buddy told him we wanted to play a little with them and hit them before he sold them and he said he would let us. I don't know what kind of shafts are on them as there are no labels left on them, but I am assuming they are likely some DG shafts of either regular or stiff-lite shafts. I told my buddy I would buy them for the $100.00 if he doesn't want them. He's a screwing, stupid ass PING player so I don't think he will want them. I'm hoping he doesn't. The only thing is he does like to buy sets and resell them. I told him I wanted to buy them though so he will probably let me have them if he doesn't want them. I'm anxious to try them out.[/QUOTE]

I think you overlooked this post, NaH. I'm bumping it to get your opinion since you have played them previously . . . . .

[QUOTE=SoonerBS]I think you overlooked this post, NaH. I'm bumping it to get your opinion since you have played them previously . . . . .[/QUOTE]
I'd guess they will have DG S300s in them as they were standard. I would recommend them for sure, but maybe not at $100 with rust spots. They don't gte much more than that in Oz in good nixk, so I'd think in the US he would be lucky to get $50 for them on ebay. Make sure they are the Pro II beofre you buy though. I heard the original Pro weren't much chop, but the Pro II were much improved and a sought after model. I still can't believe I had a set in good condition and sold them. I love the TPS 6.0s, bu it's always nice to have a set of GFF waiting in the wings. I'm such a dikhead.