For $1,000,000 would you switch?

If someone would pay you $1,000,000 cash with the stipulation that you switch to left-handed clubs would you do it? Opposite if you are already left-handed.

I don't think I would do it. Maybe for $5,000,000 but not for $1,000,000. Switching to left handed would basically make me worse than a beginner. I've tried swinging left handed and it's the same as trying to throw a football for me. It's like it's a brand new sport.

Permanent switch or just the one round?

A cool million could buy a lot of lessons and lefty clubs? :idea:

[QUOTE=famousdavis;271151]If someone would pay you $1,000,000 cash with the stipulation that you switch to left-handed clubs would you do it? Opposite if you are already left-handed.

I don't think I would do it. Maybe for $5,000,000 but not for $1,000,000. Switching to left handed would basically make me worse than a beginner. I've tried swinging left handed and it's the same as trying to throw a football for me. It's like it's a brand new sport.[/QUOTE]
I'd do it. I wouldn't think its all that hard to make the switch.

I swung a baseball bat left handed, sacrificing a bit of coordination (not reflex--reflex remained unchanged or improved) for vision.

Blessedly, the golf ball is not moving, and coordination is thus more important than reflex or vision.

A million dollars isn't nearly what it was. A million dollars in net worth is probably the threshhold for middle class now. If you've got a (paid for) house and a little IRA, there's a million right there today.

In fact, if you've got a family and can still afford to play golf, you're almost certainly a millionaire already. Just add everything up.

[QUOTE=NiftyNiblick;271156]I swung a baseball bat left handed, sacrificing a bit of coordination (not reflex--reflex remained unchanged or improved) for vision.

Blessedly, the golf ball is not moving, and coordination is thus more important than reflex or vision.

[B]A million dollars isn't nearly what it was. A million dollars in net worth is probably the threshhold for middle class now. If you've got a (paid for) house and a little IRA, there's a million right there today.[/B]

In fact, if you've got a family and can still afford to play golf, you're almost certainly a millionaire already. Just add everything up.[/QUOTE]

I hear a lot of people say that but it's still a hell of a kick start to your life savings isn't it? Whats the average wage in the US? $100k a year is probably pretty good. Well there's 10 years wages right there. Deduct tax and living expenses and there's at least 20 years saving right there. Saying a million bucks is nothing is silly.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;271151]If someone would pay you $1,000,000 cash with the stipulation that you switch to left-handed clubs would you do it? Opposite if you are already left-handed.

I don't think I would do it. Maybe for $5,000,000 but not for $1,000,000. Switching to left handed would basically make me worse than a beginner. I've tried swinging left handed and it's the same as trying to throw a football for me. It's like it's a brand new sport.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely. Make the mil in used tens, twenties, fifties and hundreds with non-sequential serial numbers. I can already putt as well left handed as I can right handed. My right eye is dominant and my right side is a good bit stronger than my left. I would probably get left handed Ping Eye 2's with those real light and flexible shafts and a Ping G5, G10 or Rapture 12 degree driver with offset and a regular flex shaft. With the extra cash, I would also get a UK spec stick shift sedan so that I would feel comfortable using my lower hand a bit more although since my left hand is my guitar-fretting hand, its pretty dexterous anyway. By the way if Obama wins another four years, do you think that the Government will pay for lessons and training for me to go over to the other side and live as a left-hander?

[QUOTE=mongrel;271158] By the way if Obama wins another four years, do you think that the Government will pay for lessons and training for me to go over to the other side and live as a left-hander?[/QUOTE]


I'll put in a good word, mongrel--even though I'm not sure if you deserve it!

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;271161]I hear a lot of people say that but it's still a hell of a kick start to your life savings isn't it? Whats the average wage in the US? $100k a year is probably pretty good. Well there's 10 years wages right there. Deduct tax and living expenses and there's at least 20 years saving right there. Saying a million bucks is nothing is silly.[/QUOTE]

Saying a million bucks is nothing is [I][B]incredibly[/B][/I] silly, and that's why I didn't say it, Kiwi.

I'm just saying that a million bucks aren't what a million bucks were when the term [I][U]millionaire[/U][/I] became popular. It's still a lot of cash, absolutely.

I made the switch three years ago for free. Actually, I got lessons, so I effectively paid to change. It obviously feels weird at first, but no worse than trying to masturbate with your other hand. After a while you get used to it and eventually your old swing will feel weird.

That said, I came from a game that struggled to break 90 at the time. I'm sure my mindset would be different if I was moving from a shoots in the 70s type of game.

[QUOTE=buddha33;271166]I made the switch three years ago for free. Actually, I got lessons, so I effectively paid to change. It obviously feels weird at first, but no worse than trying to masturbate with your other hand. After a while you get used to it and eventually your old swing will feel weird.

That said, I came from a game that struggled to break 90 at the time. I'm sure my mindset would be different if I was moving from a shoots in the 70s type of game.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a pretty fun challenge. In baseball, I always had more power swinging right handed, but more trouble picking the ball up at high speeds. Left handed, I could always see the ball and make contact.

[QUOTE=buddha33;271166]I made the switch three years ago for free. Actually, I got lessons, so I effectively paid to change. It obviously feels weird at first, but no worse than trying to masturbate with your other hand. After a while you get used to it and eventually your old swing will feel weird.

That said, I came from a game that struggled to break 90 at the time. I'm sure my mindset would be different if I was moving from a shoots in the 70s type of game.[/QUOTE]

Was the switch forced on you by injury or something?

[QUOTE=NiftyNiblick;271163]Saying a million bucks is nothing is [I][B]incredibly[/B][/I] silly, and that's why I didn't say it, Kiwi.

[B]I'm just saying that a million bucks aren't what a million bucks were when the term [I][U]millionaire[/U][/I] became popular.[/B] It's still a lot of cash, absolutely.[/QUOTE]

Granted.

But I hear a lot of people say that about winning the lottery. When it gets up to $10m+ they start fantasizing about what they would do if they won. But they dismiss winning a million as if it's nothing.

I'm a sh1tty golfer right handed. I would make the switch for 50k. Any less and it wouldn't be worth the effort. I would probably eventually improve.

Sure, I'm a righty playing lefty. I guessing I'd catch on pretty quickly. I already know how to throw and kick right handed so the pivot and should turn should be easy.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;271170]Was the switch forced on you by injury or something?[/QUOTE]

I am a natural left hander who grew up golfing right handed. I wanted to improve my game with lessons and figured why not start off with a fresh piece of clay. I'm glad I did because most of my fundamentals are pretty solid. Now it's just a matter of working on tempo and putting in the time on the course.

[QUOTE=poe4soul;271174]Sure, I'm a righty playing lefty. I guessing I'd catch on pretty quickly. I already know how to throw and kick right handed so the pivot and should turn should be easy.[/QUOTE]

You know, I've thought about it some more and I'd take the $1M. In about a year's time I bet I could be shooting under 85. I would take lessons to get all of the movements down and then hit balls like crazy.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;271177]You know, I've thought about it some more and I'd take the $1M. In about a year's time I bet I could be shooting under 85. I would take lessons to get all of the movements down and then hit balls like crazy.[/QUOTE]

You don't work for a living?

[QUOTE=huskyhater;271207]You don't work for a living?[/QUOTE]

I'm a man of leisure.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;271172]Granted.

But I hear a lot of people say that about winning the lottery. When it gets up to $10m+ they start fantasizing about what they would do if they won. But they dismiss winning a million as if it's nothing.[/QUOTE]

It's a matter of odds, Kiwi. The odds against winning the lottery are astronomical, but when the purse becomes as large as the odds, it's at least a fair bet.

Let's say the odds of winning PowerBall in the US are 150,000,000 to 1. The prize actually gets up to $150,000,000 or more, so the one dollar bet to win it is now a fair bet despite the astronomical odds.

When the prize is "only," say, 5,000,000 dollars, it's really a sucker bet.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;271151]If someone would pay you $1,000,000 cash with the stipulation that you switch to left-handed clubs would you do it? Opposite if you are already left-handed.

I don't think I would do it. Maybe for $5,000,000 but not for $1,000,000. Switching to left handed would basically make me worse than a beginner. I've tried swinging left handed and it's the same as trying to throw a football for me. It's like it's a brand new sport.[/QUOTE]

I'd do it in a second.

When I was very young and (under)employed at a private club that was almost entirely lunch/workday traffic. That mean lots of long evenings with almost nothing to do in a bar next to a games room that had 4 full size snooker tables. I was already a decent player, but I got much better while I worked there.

But the point is that I was teaching myself to use a cue left-handed it wasn't that hard. Sure: at first it felt awkward as hell, but as time went on, I realized that not only was it getting easier, but that I was actually using a more technically correct swing (arm hanging precisely vertically when the cue was in neutral) than I ever could playing right-handed; I didn't have years of playing with a stroke learned before I knew anything about how it was supposed to be done to undo.

:)

[QUOTE=famousdavis;271151]If someone would pay you $1,000,000 cash with the stipulation that you switch to left-handed clubs would you do it? Opposite if you are already left-handed.

I don't think I would do it. Maybe for $5,000,000 but not for $1,000,000. Switching to left handed would basically make me worse than a beginner. I've tried swinging left handed and it's the same as trying to throw a football for me. It's like it's a brand new sport.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to handball. the FIRST movement a beginner must learn is how to throw sidearm, underhand, and overhand with his other hand. Those who can't do that fairly well will see ONLY balls that force them to use that hand. So we all spent hours and hours practicing hitting balls with our "off" hand. Most used a mirror to study how our "on" hand does it, then tried to copy that. Just like in golf, we first do it in slow motion, then try to ingrain that motion. Really good players look ambidextrous. TOP players develop an OFF hand even better than their natural one.

Handball is MUCH more difficult than golf. Which probably accounts for its demise as a sport. Racquetball was too easy, and so it died out too. Tennis is struggling.

Larry

[QUOTE=alangbaker;271227]I realized that not only was it getting easier, but that I was actually using a more technically correct swing (arm hanging precisely vertically when the cue was in neutral) than I ever could playing right-handed; I didn't have years of playing with a stroke learned before I knew anything about how it was supposed to be done to undo.

:)[/QUOTE]

This is precisely why I decided to switch. I figured I could either go to a pro and drudge through all the poor mechanics I had engrained over the years swinging right handed, or just start fresh and learn things the correct way left handed. It's really not that hard, and the learning curve is quite steep.

This thread reminds me of the old riddle,. If you went camping with some buddies and woke up with vaseline on your anus would you say anything?

When I started to get frustrated trying teach my kids the game I bought a left handed 8 iron to try and gain some perspective. It's not just the frustration of trying to learn an awkward movement but the embarrassment of shanking balls all over the place as well. Needless to say I gained a new appreciation for what beginners go through and have increased my patience level astronomically. I actually believe it is harder to switch hit than it is to start from scratch. At least as a beginner you have some idea how to swing a stick or a bat in your preferred direction.

[QUOTE=Larryrsf;271229]Welcome to handball. the FIRST movement a beginner must learn is how to throw sidearm, underhand, and overhand with his other hand. Those who can't do that fairly well will see ONLY balls that force them to use that hand. So we all spent hours and hours practicing hitting balls with our "off" hand. Most used a mirror to study how our "on" hand does it, then tried to copy that. Just like in golf, we first do it in slow motion, then try to ingrain that motion. Really good players look ambidextrous. TOP players develop an OFF hand even better than their natural one.

Handball is MUCH more difficult than golf. Which probably accounts for its demise as a sport. Racquetball was too easy, and so it died out too. Tennis is struggling.

Larry[/QUOTE]

I thought people quit playing handball after the 6th grade. It isn't a sport. People play raquetball all the time but handball is for the inner cities.

[QUOTE=jt1135;271233]This thread reminds me of the old riddle,. If you went camping with some buddies and woke up with vaseline on your anus would you say anything?[/QUOTE]

Then, there was the Milwaukee's Beast and low-grade weed fueled dorm room debate "would you blow a guy for a million bucks?"
It always turned out the same way. Flat out denial by most. One guy insist that not only would he, but he knows without a doubt that everyone else would too, but refused to admit it. This always led to an in depth discussions about the circumstances and parameters about said hypothetical hum job. Ah, the good old days.

[QUOTE=Home-slicer;271647]Then, there was the Milwaukee's Beast and low-grade weed fueled dorm room debate "would you blow a guy for a million bucks?"
It always turned out the same way. Flat out denial by most. One guy insist that not only would he, but he knows without a doubt that everyone else would too, but refused to admit it. This always led to an in depth discussions about the circumstances and parameters about said hypothetical hum job. Ah, the good old days.[/QUOTE]

You forgot about the part where you sucked off all the dudes in the room.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;271671]You forgot about the part where you sucked off all the dudes in the room.[/QUOTE]

Is that how the story ends in Ohio? Here..not so much.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;271671]You forgot about the part where you sucked off all the dudes in the room.[/QUOTE]

I hope they came up with the money. That's a horrible bet to welch on.

The title of this thread made me wonder if someone was proposing a rainbow version of "Indecent Proposal".....

[QUOTE=dorkman53;271701]The title of this thread made me wonder if someone was proposing a rainbow version of "Indecent Proposal".....[/QUOTE]

I always thought they should have bargained with Robert Redford. Maybe they could have agreed on $500K to let him watch.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;271642]I thought people quit playing handball after the 6th grade. It isn't a sport. People play raquetball all the time but handball is for the inner cities.[/QUOTE]

You definitely do not understand handball... I played in a couple of tournaments recently. My father was state champion; more than one state, actually...

Famous, you would get your ass handed to you in the court.

Jake Plumber, pro quarterback, plays handball... tons of others; racquetball is for the gays...

Go to 34 seconds in this video, and see if you recognize him.

Larry sucks at handball, but I am good at it.


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[QUOTE=spanqdoggie;271703]You definitely do not understand handball... I played in a couple of tournaments recently. My father was state champion; more than one state, actually...

Famous, you would get your ass handed to you in the court.

Jake Plumber, pro quarterback, plays handball... tons of others; racquetball is for the gays...

Go to 34 seconds in this video, and see if you recognize him.

Larry sucks at handball, but I am good at it.


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I don't know the first thing about handball other than it's played with your hand and a ball. I was trying to give Larry a hard time but now my cover is blown.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;271705]I don't know the first thing about handball other than it's played with your hand and a ball. I was trying to give Larry a hard time but now my cover is blown.[/QUOTE]

I learned to play handball in New York In New York City, hardball was and is a Man's game. No boys need apply. In areas like the Bronx, time on the handball courts had to be earned. You stood in line and waited to play the winner. If you won a game, you held the court until you lost. The best players would hold the court for hours. The ethos was like that of the top gunfighters in the old west. The most difficult raquet game is squash raquests, the spiritual kin to handball. The New Yorker who taught me squash raquets also taught me handball. We played handball without gloves the way it was meant to be played.

[QUOTE=mongrel;271707]I learned to play handball in New York In New York City, hardball was and is a Man's game. No boys need apply. In areas like the Bronx, time on the handball courts had to be earned. You stood in line and waited to play the winner. If you won a game, you held the court until you lost. The best players would hold the court for hours. The ethos was like that of the top gunfighters in the old west. The most difficult raquet game is squash raquests, the spiritual kin to handball. The New Yorker who taught me squash raquets also taught me handball. We played handball without gloves the way it was meant to be played.[/QUOTE]

I used to play handball with a raquetball "ball" in 6th grade. Nobody could beat me. I'm fairly certain that would still be true today.

I just noticed you are playing an FD putter? Did I send you a putter with the other stuff? I don't remember that. Also, did you install either of those shafts?

I don't know if I mentioned this but I found a bunch of thrown away clubs in the dumpster outside Golfmart. The only one I grabbed was a Taylormade Titanium 360 8.5 driver with R-80 bubble shaft. I tried hitting it on the range and it's not even comparable to the drivers they have out now. Not even close. Probably 20 yards shorter. I guess I'll be throwing it into another dumpster as I doubt I could sell it for more than $9.

[QUOTE=mongrel;271707]I learned to play handball in New York In New York City, hardball was and is a Man's game. No boys need apply. In areas like the Bronx, time on the handball courts had to be earned. You stood in line and waited to play the winner. If you won a game, you held the court until you lost. The best players would hold the court for hours. The ethos was like that of the top gunfighters in the old west. The most difficult raquet game is squash raquests, the spiritual kin to handball. The New Yorker who taught me squash raquets also taught me handball. We played handball without gloves the way it was meant to be played.[/QUOTE]

Squash is a legitimate racquet sport, as is tennis. Racquetball is for f@ggots.

The ball you may have played was called the "black rock" and it was hard like a rock. Even now, nobody wants to play because of the bone bruises and injured hands; once you get past that (the hands get strong) the game is really fun.

Shucks I broke my finger a few months ago trying to scrape a ball off the sidewall...

One wall and three wall are played without gloves, but with the hard ball, thin leather gloves are used in four wall.

New York is a hot spot for handball... True dat.

I doubt Larry ever killed the ball in his life; let alone a rollout...

The kids these days lack the toughness of your generation, so handball is a dying sport...

[QUOTE=famousdavis;271710]I used to play handball with a raquetball "ball" in 6th grade. Nobody could beat me. [B] I'm fairly certain that would still be true today. [/B]

[/QUOTE]


I cannot let this comment stand. First, hitting a racquetball with your hand is gay. Also, when I was in sixth grade I was hitting a rock hard handball with bare hands...

You need to hit a rock hard 'handball' as Mongrel said.

Famous, I love you, but...

I would kick your ass in handball; you would never score a point off me...

On the other hand, you would kick my ass in golf; I could never beat you, ever.

Let us accept these facts and move on, my friend...

Have I ever talked sh!t about beating anyone here in golf?

Don't talk sh!t about beating anyone in handball here again.

Famous, you are my friend and I love you,

spank

p.s. I believe you owe me, Sooner, Dorkman and Big Dave Perkins an apology... Yes, you would kick Lary's ass in handball; I will give you that...

[QUOTE=spanqdoggie;271851]I cannot let this comment stand. First, hitting a racquetball with your hand is gay. Also, when I was in sixth grade I was hitting a rock hard handball with bare hands...

You need to hit a rock hard 'handball' as Mongrel said.

Famous, I love you, but...

I would kick your ass in handball; you would never score a point off me...

On the other hand, you would kick my ass in golf; I could never beat you, ever.

Let us accept these facts and move on, my friend...

Have I ever talked sh!t about beating anyone here in golf?

Don't talk sh!t about beating anyone in handball here again.

Famous, you are my friend and I love you,

spank

p.s. I believe you owe me, Sooner, Dorkman and Big Dave Perkins an apology... Yes, you would kick Lary's ass in handball; I will give you that...[/QUOTE]


Sooner plays handball? OK, I apologize begrudgingly.

HS. A million dollars buys a lot of mouthwash.:D

[QUOTE=jt1135;271910]HS. A million dollars buys a lot of mouthwash.:D[/QUOTE]

Lol. True, but living a lifetime without total shame = priceless.