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Hybrids or Irons
Would you prefer Hybrids or irons?
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Irons are much better if you hit them properly. I have a 19* and a 3 iron in my bag and I hit the iron when I have confidence in it (most of the time) and the hybrid when I don't
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"Irons are much better if you hit them properly."
LOL, sorry but this doesnt make any sense at all.
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The hybrids give a little more confidence and a few more yards with more loft I feel.
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Irons are for players, hybrids are for girls!!!!!
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thegolfaholic,
Hybrids are for girls? Nike Slingshot OSS? Those things ARE hybrids!
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I prefer an Iron because it just feels better. I hit both about the same so I just stick to the iron.
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golfaholic
With the stick you carry I would be real careful with what you call girly clubs.
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Okay, I guess they are sort of clumpy! I got one hell of a deal though on them. A buddy of mine bought them but then his dad bought him a set of the same clubs for his birthday. He bought the steel shafts and his dad got him the graphites. He didn't want to hurt his dad's feelings so he kept those and was gonna pawn the others. I convinced him to let them go for $300 (just the irons, I already had the SQ). Any one of you would have taken that deal! Maybe they are bulky but the price was right! I would still take a long iron over a hybrid though,even if my reasons can't be justified because of the chunks of steel I am currently playing!
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Halos
Cleveland golf halos the best than my irons.
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[QUOTE=thegolfaholic]Any one of you would have taken that deal![/QUOTE]
I for one would not have taken that deal... not even at $250 (at which price I could make a small profit on ebaying them).
But if they work for you that's fine. Just don't assume everything is truly a "deal" just because you feel like it is. :lol:
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What the hell happened to my emoticons anyway?
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Hi,
I am not very consistent with my Fairway-Woods. But my Irons are okay. I guess it's the longer shaft. I got an Ping G5 16 degree Loft with the Aldila NV Hybrid 85S Shaft. I hit this a lot better. I now use it of the Tee for tight Fairways and second shots an Par 5s. To me this has really improved my game.
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I havent hit a hybird and I dont plan on doing so until my irons go to crap.
my emoticons dont work either..
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[QUOTE=thegolfaholic]Irons are for players, hybrids are for girls!!!!![/QUOTE]
I guess that is why some tour players use hybrids too, they are just girls.
I hit my long irons great when I nut them but when I do mishit them it can get really bad. With hybrids you still get mishits but the outcome, for me at least, is better than with a long iron
[U]Current Sticks[/U]
Taylormade R5
Taylormade V-Steel 3W and 5W
Nickent 3DX DC 18*
Taylormade RAC OS 4-PW
Nike 52 and 56
Nike OZ putter
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[QUOTE=banzaii]I guess that is why some tour players use hybrids too, they are just girls.
I hit my long irons great when I nut them but when I do mishit them it can get really bad. With hybrids you still get mishits but the outcome, for me at least, is better than with a long iron
Duh, it's the women tour pros that use them silly! :lol: :lol:
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If you swing your long irons well and your torn between a hybrid and an iron, you may want to look into a hybrid iron. I personally am an iron guy.I carry a Bridgestone J33 Airmuscle Forged hybrid 2 iron (19*), and I have completely eliminated the need to carry a 5 wood. I've hit hybrid woods from 19*- 24*, and I just don't feel as comfortable with them. That's not saying I never could be comfortable, but at this point, I don't feel the need to put in the time to create that comfort.
The right club is very subjective, idealy the best idea is to demo or play both types of clubs and determine which club suits your personal game best.
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Boy, I sure brought out the ahole in some of you. Don't be mad at me if you can't hit a long iron, that's your problem. Although I play brand new clubs I got for less than have of the selling price, I can still wail any long iron you put in front of me. And yes getting those clubs for that price is a good deal, neverman, because when I get my new clubs in about another month, I'll flip the OSS's on ebay and get my next clubs for about half price too and I'll be laughing all the way to the bank. And if you have to use a hybrid, you shouldn't be criticizing me or my game, you need to take a lesson or something and focus on improving your game, sissies.
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[QUOTE=thegolfaholic]Boy, I sure brought out the ahole in some of you. Don't be mad at me if you can't hit a long iron, that's your problem.QUOTE]
Hey we're not the one that called everyone that hits a hybrid a girl.
For myself I never said I can't hit my long irons, I hit them good the majority of the time (and I bet most of the guys here that use them feel the same) but hybrids are just easier to hit and that is what they are all about.
I am going to go out on a limb here and say that all the golfers that use hybrids on the Champions, Nationwide and PGA tour can hit long irons good even great, more than likely better than you or anyone visiting this website, but yet they still choose hybrids.
Now why do you think that is?
It is simple most hybrids are easier to hit! For some it may be because they can't hit a long iron but for most it is just because they are easy to hit.
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Just help me understand..your calling people 'sissies' because they cant hit a long iron?. Wow..thats unnecessary..
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Thegolfaholic,
Nothing personal, but I registered just to respond to this poll. You say if you have to hit a hybrid, you ought to get a lesson. You sound like most of the high school kids I coach, at least thats what they sound like at the beginning of the year. Then they realize the simplest solution is "usually" the best.
Likewise, most of the people I encounter in State or other amatuer tours, seem to be carrying them in increasing numbers.
I may not be typical, but I love seeing the man I'm betting against hitting a long iron versus my hybrid.
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Okay, everyone who got offended by my comment, REMOVE THE STICK FROM YOUR AZZ NOW! You all are very defensive about my opinion. Does this say something about my comment or your game?
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"Duh, it's the women tour pros that use them silly! :lol: :lol"
In a field of 103 players, 50 total hybrids were in play at the Masters.
One hundred sixty eight PGA Tour players used a hybrid through the first 10 events the 2006 season, 35 more than in 2005 and 72 more than in 2004, according to Darrel Survey.
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HOG, I am honored you registered to comment on my opinion. However, you are ruining the traditionalism of the game by teaching your little hs boys to use hybrids. But again with the ever changing technology of the game I guess you have to use what's best for you. After all that's why I use the SQ. I just think that to get the full enjoyment of the game, you need to play it how it was meant to be played. Long iron shots are supposed to be tough and there is no better feeling then when you pull off a great one. I just think hybrids are the easy way out hence my comment.
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Well if you dont want to mess up the "traditionalism" of the game, then there is a whole lot worse things going on besides hybrids. Actually some of the early clubs looked like hybrids, but I doubt they were as easy to hit. There was no such thing as a sand wedge, so you need to get rid of those,... oh yeah, quit marking your ball on the green... that was called a stymie, get rid of the tees... use sand instead, and in my case I need to pull out that $250 speeder shaft... after all we dont want an unfair advantage, need to use hickory just like everyone else, and last but not least... get your butt out of the cart and WALK!!!
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[QUOTE=thegolfaholic]
I just think that to get the full enjoyment of the game, you need to play it how it was meant to be played. Long iron shots are supposed to be tough and there is no better feeling then when you pull off a great one. I just think hybrids are the easy way out hence my comment.[/QUOTE]
Let me get this straight you play the game it was meant to be played but yet the only thing I see missing from your bag that isn't new technology is a hybrid. Or are you going to tell us that the driver isn't easier to hit than a persimmons or that the Nike One doesn't make the game easier than an old balata.
I guess when Sarazen invented the sand wedge he was totally screwed up and we should throw them out of the bag because they are the "easy way out".
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Why do forums like this ALWAYS get into pissing contests about whether or not hybrids are for girls or not? Just hit what you like. Personally i havent hit enough long irons and hybrids to know which one i like better. But i do know that i like my 5 iron better than my 3 and 4 hybrids so in the poll i voted for irons... but i really dont know
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How long have sand wedges been around? Decades. How long have tees been around? Decades. How long have non-hickory shafts been around? Again, decades. How long have hybrids been around? Point made.
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Longer than any of the three you just named... do some research
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Since you seem to be the golf encyclopedia, how long have they been a normal part of a players set? Surely not as long as the others you named. I agree with jules anyway. I put in my opinion and everyones gotten pissy about it and I feel like I'm arguing with my old lady! Take it or leave it, I will never use a hybrid and continue to improve my game without them.
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[QUOTE=thegolfaholic]HOG, I am honored you registered to comment on my opinion. However, you are ruining the traditionalism of the game by teaching your little hs boys to use hybrids. But again with the ever changing technology of the game I guess you have to use what's best for you. After all that's why I use the SQ. I just think that to get the full enjoyment of the game, you need to play it how it was meant to be played. Long iron shots are supposed to be tough and there is no better feeling then when you pull off a great one. I just think hybrids are the easy way out hence my comment.[/QUOTE]
thegolfaholic,
Since you are hung up on machismo, I'd like to point out again that YOUR current bag leaves you no room at all to make fun of hybrids. With your irons, you effectively play hybrids from your 3 iron down to your wedge. I don't care what you used to play, you are living proof of the "easy way out." Plus, in the manly order of things, a 2 iron replacement (a la hybrid) is more manly than your 5 wood.
If you're going to make noise at least have Da Blade's equipment. It's like calling someone a ***** for liking yoga, while you do pilates.
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[QUOTE=thegolfaholic]How long have sand wedges been around? Decades. How long have tees been around? Decades. How long have non-hickory shafts been around? Again, decades. How long have hybrids been around? Point made.[/QUOTE]
What point! You contradicted yourself, they have been around for decades and you know why because they made the game easier. In 10 or 15 years we can say the same thing about hybrids.
You are truly a amazing you sit there and talk about the tradition of the game and how hybrids aren't part of that but yet you hit game improvements clubs and balls.
I am not saying everyone should hit hybrids if you like irons go for it but don't knock hybrids and the people that use them like you did when you made the comment that hybrids are for girls.
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The whole tradionalism argument is total hogwash. Doesnt hitting a driver with a draw bias jeopodize tradionalism? How about cavity back irons in general? What about multi layer balls, and high moi putters?
I am really starting to think that all the hybrid haters are only this way because they CANT even hit a hybrid. They want everyone to use crappy gear so they wont appear to suck as bad as they do. Golf is about achieving the best score possible while playing within the rules of the game. Everything else is opinion, ego and nonsense.
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I like the long irons because I feel that I can work them better. I have tried hybrids but I found (at least the one I used) that it is nearly impossible...at least for me to shape the shot. I get much better results from my irons. Not to mention that when you do hit a long iron "on the screws" you cannot feel a better feel in the world.
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I know I can hit a hybrid, and I don't think there's a soul out there that couldn't, but I also prefer to play long irons. I don't know of anyone who can say they are traditional golfers if they've bought golf equipment in the past ten or fifteen years. I do understand what he is saying about being traditional in the sense of carrying long irons rather than hybrids. I can hit hybrids as well as long irons, but I prefer the irons. It's as traditional as you can get with today's technology. But still, traditional may not be the best word, but I get both points. I sure hope I don't get on anyone's bad side, you all are really going after him when I think somewhere in there he had a decent point. Please don't bite my head off for that!!!!
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This is just to funny. There is nothing tradional about any of the golf equipment we use now a days, from drivers to our shoes to our bags. Every last piece of gear we use has been designed to make the game easier. This has always been the goal of equipment makers, and that [B]tradition[/B] will never change.
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The statement that thegolfaholic made "Irons are for players, hybrids are for girls!!!!!"
at the very beginning of the thread is the one that got people started on the whole subject.
Then he told HOG "However, you are ruining the traditionalism of the game by teaching your little hs boys to use hybrids." What kind of BS is that? The point of teaching anyone the game is for them to have fun and if using hybrids make it easier and more fun for the golfer thegolfaholic shouldn't tell someone that they are ruining the traditionalism of the game by teaching them to use hybrids.
If you read my other posts I don't care what anyone uses, whether it's blades, cavity backs, long irons, hybrids but making statements like thegolfaholic made inferring that those players that do use hybrids are girls and also inferring that those who use hybrids also don't respect the game is total nonsense.
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Banzaii, I see what you're saying. I've played with many seniors who if it wasn't for hybrids wouldn't be able to still play this great game. Hybrids are the only reason they can still play. Yeah, if they work for you, more power to you, use them. They also make it easier for juniors who by hitting a few good shots can fall in love with the game like all of us have. It was a little absurd to make that comment. Everyone should be able to enjoy the game, and if hybrids help with that, then that's just fine. I thought the fight was about traditionalism and his point (irons over hybrids is MORE "traditional", for lack of a better word) was being misunderstood. LyleG said it pretty good, consumers and manufacterers are about game improvement and that's the only lasting tradition as far as equipment is concerned.
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I wasn't insulting your game or your choice, I was saying I wasn't at aall impressed by your supposed "deal" involving the OSS's... That simple.
I could care less what your opinion on hybrids is but I hope you're aware that you're virtually playing them =)
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Mr. Golfaholic, if you're so worried about the tradition of the game, maybe you can dump your brick on a stick of a driver before you dump on hybrids.
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[QUOTE=thegolfaholic]Irons are for players, hybrids are for girls!!!!![/QUOTE]
Notice you don't carry a 1 or 2 iron. Aren't those "players" clubs? P.S. 4 of the last 10 major winners have used hybrids. How many majors have you won?
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Just want to make it clear that Thegolfaholic and golfaholic (me) are two different people. That being said..Thegolfaholic what do you have against hybrids?? nearly everything in the world has made technological advancements. Just because someone can hit a hybrid further and straighter than you hit your 3 iron doesn’t mean you should tell everyone that hybrids are horrible and shouldn’t be used by anyone. Either get a hybrid yourself, or go get a lesson on how to hit a long iron and stop complaining because NO ONE wants to listen to your derogatory and pointless comments.
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