Who is the last poster in many threads?

OK. It's been 3 hours and nobody has claimed the century post in this thread.

I hereby plant my flag on behalf of all the Freakamaniacs out there. :)

EDIT : OK, something really weird just happened... the last post before mine (Nah's) was post 99 until I posted, now it's 100. Same post, different count. Strange.

EDIT 2 : Don't mind me, I'm a drunk ass who was looking at the reply count not the post count.

Ever have "friends" over who just don't get the hint when it's time to leave?



FON

101

Edgey

[QUOTE=edgey]101

Edgey[/QUOTE]


If we were to ever play a GR match I wouldn't trust either one of us to keep score. :D



FON

[QUOTE=edgey]101

Edgey[/QUOTE]

Any batting position for the Aussies u want :thumbsup:

[QUOTE=rooboy]Any batting position for the Aussies u want :thumbsup:[/QUOTE]

I would go for number 3 on the basis Ponting is f uck all use there lol

Edgey

[QUOTE=FreakOfNature]If we were to ever play a GR match I wouldn't trust either one of us to keep score. :D



FON[/QUOTE]

You cant beat a good scorer lol

Hello... hello?

Is there anybody in there?

Just nod if you can hear me.

Is there anyone home?



FON

Dave's not here.

[QUOTE=jt1135]Dave's not here.[/QUOTE]

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"It's mostly Maui-wowee, but it's got some Labrador in it." :p



FON

Remember the giant paper that came with that album

[QUOTE=jt1135]Remember the giant paper that came with that album[/QUOTE]


A friend of mine has the album, and still has the paper. HUGE.

Nobody in their right mind would ever try to smoke one that big, even with a half-dozen friends.

Well... almost nobody. ;)



FON

[QUOTE=jt1135]Dave's not here.[/QUOTE]

No No it's me, Dave.

Drugs are not funny, just say NO

reality is for people that can't handle drugs

[quote=jt1135]reality is for people that can't handle drugs[/quote]

I remember my sophmore year in high school. Me and some friends were playing basketball and one of the guys started talking about pot and I mentioned that I had never tried it. He looked at me as if I was from Mars. Then he started in with "what a geek!" "I can't believe you've never tried it...what a geek".

He spent some time in prison and now he works in construction finding whatever work he can. Drugs aren't cool in any way shape or form and they are dragging down America faster than anything else. Almost all crime is related to some kind of addiction or drug use.

Prescription Marijuana is a joke and I would guess that 90% of the people getting it this way don't really need it. I knew a guy in college who was valadictorian of his high school and he flunked out because he couldn't stop smoking it.

I don't know why marijuana is associated with being cool. Probably because it makes you mellow and everything is just groovy. In reality, it just cuts off the sensory receptors to your brain. That's what's funny about people who think drug use, especially marijuana is cool. They think of themselves as cool and laid back and that everyone deserves to have fun once in awhile. If they are honest, they would have to admit that they are looking for something to make themselves feel better. And, over time, they are looking for something to make them feel better because they are addicted.

I don't really care if someone uses drugs, I just think they should be honest about why they do it. They do it to feel better and there's other ways to feel better.

So FD, do you ever have a drink? No difference.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]I remember my sophmore year in high school. Me and some friends were playing basketball and one of the guys started talking about pot and I mentioned that I had never tried it. He looked at me as if I was from Mars. Then he started in with "what a geek!" "I can't believe you've never tried it...what a geek".

He spent some time in prison and now he works in construction finding whatever work he can. Drugs aren't cool in any way shape or form and they are dragging down America faster than anything else. Almost all crime is related to some kind of addiction or drug use.

Prescription Marijuana is a joke and I would guess that 90% of the people getting it this way don't really need it. I knew a guy in college who was valadictorian of his high school and he flunked out because he couldn't stop smoking it.

I don't know why marijuana is associated with being cool. Probably because it makes you mellow and everything is just groovy. In reality, it just cuts off the sensory receptors to your brain. That's what's funny about people who think drug use, especially marijuana is cool. They think of themselves as cool and laid back and that everyone deserves to have fun once in awhile. If they are honest, they would have to admit that they are looking for something to make themselves feel better. And, over time, they are looking for something to make them feel better because they are addicted.

I don't really care if someone uses drugs, I just think they should be honest about why they do it. They do it to feel better and there's other ways to feel better.[/QUOTE]
The biggest myth about pot is that it's a soft drug and that it isn't addictive. I've known plenty of pot heads who have given up smoking and don't even drink much but are still in the grip of the green. From my observations I would say that pot is the most addictive substance there is, and is extremely destructive over the long term. I admit I know some stoners who behave normally and show no signs of being a pot head, but the majority of regular users get noticably slower and dumber over time.

Do we really have to start this same argument again. Nobody here is going to change anybody else's mind. You have your opinion and I have mine.

[QUOTE=jt1135]Do we really have to start this same argument again. Nobody here is going to change anybody else's mind. You have your opinion and I have mine.[/QUOTE]
But isn't the futile pursuit of trying to change the minds and opinions of others what we do here?

[quote=Not a hacker]But isn't the futile pursuit of trying to change the minds and opinions of others what we do here?[/quote]

I've heard the argument before that having a drink is the same thing as smoking a joint. I think it's completely different. For one thing, marijuana is illegal and so obtaining it gets you involved with people that are usually involved in other crimes as well and who most likely deal other kinds of drungs. Secondly, it's been proven that marijuana usually leads to other kinds of illegal drugs. Finally, I am simply going by my experience of observing people who smoked pot in college. These guys did it all the friggin' time and I'm sure they didn't start out that way.

I'm really not trying to judge anyone for doing it but I do challenge those people that say it's harmless and no different than having a beer.

Which is more common. Somebody sitting down one night a smoking themselves to death or someone sitting down one night and drinking themselves to death.

[QUOTE=jt1135]Which is more common. Somebody sitting down one night a smoking themselves to death or someone sitting down one night and drinking themselves to death.[/QUOTE]
But the guy drinking himself to death is doing society a favour, the pot head will continue to leech off the rest of us for years to come.

FD makes a good point about frequency of use. I know plenty of drinkers and plenty of stoners, and I ca guarantee you that the pot heads are more addicted. A drinker might go out on the weekend and get blitzed, but they can go through the rest of the week without a drink. Pot heads use every day, usually first thing out of bed and last thing before going to bed at night. If the first thing you do when you wake up is pull a cone, you are addicted, and I know load of people in that category.

[quote=jt1135]Which is more common. Somebody sitting down one night a smoking themselves to death or someone sitting down one night and drinking themselves to death.[/quote]

First, I just want to say that my buddy NAH is finally coming to his senses and has started to agree with me. Second, we're not talking about people overdosing. It's pretty rare that anyone actually drinks themself to death in one night. Usually it's from all of the previous drinking they've done and this just happened to be the final straw.

I think the problem with pot is that it makes you so non-functioning. You really can't do much of anything after smoking pot except eat chips and laugh.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]First, I just want to say that my buddy NAH is finally coming to his senses and has started to agree with me. Second, we're not talking about people overdosing. It's pretty rare that anyone actually drinks themself to death in one night. Usually it's from all of the previous drinking they've done and this just happened to be the final straw.

I think the problem with pot is that it makes you so non-functioning. [B]You really can't do much of anything after smoking pot except eat chips and laugh[/B].[/QUOTE]
Or become so paranoid you can't even leave the house.

With the nobody doing it in one night debate, Minnesota passed a law because of people turning 21, going out and celebrating and dying of alcohol poisoning. I guess in my 35 years of being an adult and seeing pretty much all my friends and acquantinces who smoke pot turning out and being very productive members of society then I must be wrong. Seen a lot more people lose everything over the bottle than I have over a joint.

[QUOTE=jt1135]With the nobody doing it in one night debate, Minnesota passed a law because of people turning 21, going out and celebrating and dying of alcohol poisoning. I guess in my 35 years of being an adult and seeing pretty much all my friends and acquantinces who smoke pot turning out and being very productive members of society then I must be wrong. Seen a lot more people lose everything over the bottle than I have over a joint.[/QUOTE]
There are lot's of people who die from alcohol poisoning. I know I would have been one of them when I drank a whlebottle of Scotch at a party whe I wa 16, but luckily for me I puked my guts up (several times) so not enough stayed down to kill me. But I can tell you I have ever touched scotch again. I know there are productive members of society who are pot heads, but if you go to housing estates or mental institutions you will also see plenty of people who are disfunctional due to pot abuse.

[quote=jt1135]With the nobody doing it in one night debate, Minnesota passed a law because of people turning 21, going out and celebrating and dying of alcohol poisoning. I guess in my 35 years of being an adult and seeing pretty much all my friends and acquantinces who smoke pot turning out and being very productive members of society then I must be wrong. Seen a lot more people lose everything over the bottle than I have over a joint.[/quote]

I totally agree that alcohol is also very destructive and that their are alcoholics all over the place. I read some statistic that said that on any given residential street every fourth house has a person living in it that is addicted to alcohol or drugs.

If I didn't hate smoke in my lungs, I'd probably still smoke dope recreationally. The buzz is very relaxing and doesn't involve a hangover. Actually, as long as it's illegal and I do consulting work for companies with drug policies, I probably wouldn't.

Guess my point is ANYTHING done to excess is not good be it alcohol or drugs. Moderation is the key. To condone one or the other because of the extremes is rather narrow minded and shows the lack of willingness or intellect to debate a subject on all the facts and looking at any point from different tangents.

[quote=jt1135]Guess my point is ANYTHING done to excess is not good be it alcohol or drugs. Moderation is the key. To condone one or the other because of the extremes is rather narrow minded and shows the lack of willingness or intellect to debate a subject on all the facts and looking at any point from different tangents.[/quote]

Fine, but I think there are many studies out there proving that pot is difficult to moderate over time. As time goes by you need more and more to get the same effect and over a long period of time you become a pot head. People who drink, if they are not predisposed to being alcoholic, can usually take it or leave it all throughout their lives. Most drug use, however, has a predetermined pattern where the user increases the dosage over time and eventually is controlled by it.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]There are lot's of people who die from alcohol poisoning. I know I would have been one of them when I drank a whlebottle of Scotch at a party whe I was 16. [/QUOTE]
Trying to do a Bon Scott impersonation, eh? See! Rock and Roll [I]is[/I] the devil's music. It is not, however, noise pollution.

[QUOTE=jt1135]Guess my point is ANYTHING done to excess is not good be it alcohol or drugs. Moderation is the key. To condone one or the other because of the extremes is rather narrow minded and shows the lack of willingness or intellect to debate a subject on all the facts and looking at any point from different tangents.[/QUOTE]
I've always had a problem with the governement's double standards when it comes to drugs and alcohol. It's a bit rich trying to stand on your soap box and condemn the evils of illegal drugs whilst happily raking in the bucks from alcohol, which IMO is more destructive socially and financially (by that I mean the costs of alcohol related violence and medical costs). Ciagarettes are also anti social and a massive financial burden on the health system, but they are ok too. It seems that as long as they can control supply and collect taxes on sales, it is deemed legal no matter how much damage it does.

You are one hundred percent correct there .

The drugs vs. no drugs arguments remind of saving vs. spending. The present vs. the future.

I recently stopped drinking as part of my plan to get in better shape. What I found most interesting was, at parties I have no less fun, in fact possibly more than when I drank.

I admit I'm concerned over where my life has been heading recently.

[quote=Home-slicer]Trying to do a Bon Scott impersonation, eh? See! Rock and Roll [I]is[/I] the devil's music. It is not, however, noise pollution.[/quote]

He almost ruined his chances at the caddie scholarship by choking on his own vomit.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]He almost ruined his chances at the caddie scholarship by choking on his own vomit.[/QUOTE]
He was a brown nose Lou, you hated him.

So many untruths and irrelevant truths... where to start. Ugh.

1. Marijuana is addictive.

Marijuana does cause psychological addiction. This is true. However, it does not cause a physical addiction. There are minimal/no physical symptoms of withdrawal, at least not to the degree which alcohol and nicotine (both legal, for whatever "legal" means in the context of this discussion) produce. Marijuana is about as addictive as Raisin Bran. You can stop whenever you WANT to, however most people who use it, actually LIKE IT (big surprise, I know) and simply choose to continue using. It's like wiping your @ss... sure you could quit, but do you really want to?

I eat pizza because I like it, not because I'm addicted to it. Same deal. People quit eating pizza all the time, and people quit using MJ just as often. It's actually a pretty easy habit to kick if you choose to.

2. Marijuana is a gateway drug.

A common misconception and a prime example of correlation not being the same as causation. Lots of hard drug users also smoke MJ, more often than not when you read in the news about a local hard drug dealer getting busted, they have some MJ in their stash as well. That doesn't prove MJ is a gateway drug.

If you read the news and pay attention to the facts you'll notice that most MJ users are almost exclusively solely MJ users. They don't touch hard drugs. Why would they? Anyone who's ever smoked MJ knows that one of the primary effects is a distinct sense of contentment. You become happy with just having a few joints, a bag of Doritos, a couple pints of beer... your pathetic life, your unattractive wife, your crummy job, your crappy salary, etc... everything seems much better when you're high on MJ and you are more apt to simply settle for what you've already got, because it already makes you happy. That doesn't sound like the sort of high that makes people crave a bigger, badder buzz. That sounds like a high which makes the user say "Eff it. I'm not going to bother getting any coke tonight. I'm fine just the way I am". Claiming that MJ is a gateway drug is to deny everything that MJ actually is, something which only the uninformed and uninitiated could rationalize.

3. Marijuana use makes you stupid/dumb

Really... the skid was already a dumbass before he picked up a joint. Seriously, stop stereotyping. I've seen very smart people do extremely stupid things behind the wheel of a car. Does driving make people dumb/stupid? I have ample evidence to suggest that it does.

Short-term memory problems do occur when you're high, but it's a problem almost exclusive to people who are already inherently forgetful. Those who experience this problem don't retain it post-high. They go right back to normal.

Probably 1/4 of the people you work with use pot regularly - and you don't even know it. You can't even pick them out of a crowd because they don't stand out in any way because of it. Doctors, lawyers, school teachers, social workers, accountants, athletes, politicians, radio talk show hosts, news anchors, restaurant managers, etc... just plain old everyday people, all around you - and you don't even notice or realize it. I guarantee... if I'd never confessed to being a user, very few GR members would have suspected me as one, considering some of the discussions I get involved in around here. Do I seem like a "typical" pothead? Probably not... but the truth is I'm a VERY typical user, and the majority of us users do not fit the common stereotype.

4. Marijuana dealers are usually involved in more serious criminal activity and frequently organized crime

What a huge load of BS. Pot dealers - and I mean ALL POT DEALERS sell for one reason, and one reason alone... so they can smoke for free/support their own pot habit. FACT - most MJ users make their purchases from longtime friends who "know somebody" who knows a grower or two. Probably 95% of the product on the market at any given time is locally produced. There's no money funding terrorism or any of that nonsense... haha, people actually believe that stuff about pot funding terrorism... Wow. Gullible.

There's a lot more I'd like to get into, but I've already written an essay...

Tomorrow. :)



FON

Ahhh, a learned and well read man.

[quote=FreakOfNature]So many untruths and irrelevant truths... where to start. Ugh.

1. Marijuana is addictive.

Marijuana does cause psychological addiction. This is true. However, it does not cause a physical addiction. There are minimal/no physical symptoms of withdrawal, at least not to the degree which alcohol and nicotine (both legal, for whatever "legal" means in the context of this discussion) produce. Marijuana is about as addictive as Raisin Bran. You can stop whenever you WANT to, however most people who use it, actually LIKE IT (big surprise, I know) and simply choose to continue using. It's like wiping your @ss... sure you could quit, but do you really want to?

I eat pizza because I like it, not because I'm addicted to it. Same deal. People quit eating pizza all the time, and people quit using MJ just as often. It's actually a pretty easy habit to kick if you choose to.

2. Marijuana is a gateway drug.

A common misconception and a prime example of correlation not being the same as causation. Lots of hard drug users also smoke MJ, more often than not when you read in the news about a local hard drug dealer getting busted, they have some MJ in their stash as well. That doesn't prove MJ is a gateway drug.

If you read the news and pay attention to the facts you'll notice that most MJ users are almost exclusively solely MJ users. They don't touch hard drugs. Why would they? Anyone who's ever smoked MJ knows that one of the primary effects is a distinct sense of contentment. You become happy with just having a few joints, a bag of Doritos, a couple pints of beer... your pathetic life, your unattractive wife, your crummy job, your crappy salary, etc... everything seems much better when you're high on MJ and you are more apt to simply settle for what you've already got, because it already makes you happy. That doesn't sound like the sort of high that makes people crave a bigger, badder buzz. That sounds like a high which makes the user say "Eff it. I'm not going to bother getting any coke tonight. I'm fine just the way I am". Claiming that MJ is a gateway drug is to deny everything that MJ actually is, something which only the uninformed and uninitiated could rationalize.

3. Marijuana use makes you stupid/dumb

Really... the skid was already a dumbass before he picked up a joint. Seriously, stop stereotyping. I've seen very smart people do extremely stupid things behind the wheel of a car. Does driving make people dumb/stupid? I have ample evidence to suggest that it does.

Short-term memory problems do occur when you're high, but it's a problem almost exclusive to people who are already inherently forgetful. Those who experience this problem don't retain it post-high. They go right back to normal.

Probably 1/4 of the people you work with use pot regularly - and you don't even know it. You can't even pick them out of a crowd because they don't stand out in any way because of it. Doctors, lawyers, school teachers, social workers, accountants, athletes, politicians, radio talk show hosts, news anchors, restaurant managers, etc... just plain old everyday people, all around you - and you don't even notice or realize it. I guarantee... if I'd never confessed to being a user, very few GR members would have suspected me as one, considering some of the discussions I get involved in around here. Do I seem like a "typical" pothead? Probably not... but the truth is I'm a VERY typical user, and the majority of us users do not fit the common stereotype.

4. Marijuana dealers are usually involved in more serious criminal activity and frequently organized crime

What a huge load of BS. Pot dealers - and I mean ALL POT DEALERS sell for one reason, and one reason alone... so they can smoke for free/support their own pot habit. FACT - most MJ users make their purchases from longtime friends who "know somebody" who knows a grower or two. Probably 95% of the product on the market at any given time is locally produced. There's no money funding terrorism or any of that nonsense... haha, people actually believe that stuff about pot funding terrorism... Wow. Gullible.

There's a lot more I'd like to get into, but I've already written an essay...

Tomorrow. :)



FON[/quote]

I see. So all of those people that are in rehab because they can't stop smoking pot every single day, 8 times a day, could really quit if they wanted to. Just like a decision not to eat pizza. Hey, if you like smoking pot go right ahead but don't come on here and start talking about how marijuana is not addictive. It is physically addictive because over time it changes the physical makeup of your brain. The neuro-transmitters in your brain become less active over time and need something external to stimulate them. That's why people keep smoking more often with greater dosage.
The guy I was telling you about earlier that I knew in college? He hated the fact that he couldn't stop smoking pot. It's not just mental if the drug changes your brain's chemistry over time.

Most of the people in rehab are in because of law enforcement action and ordered by the court. Lots and lots of statistics back that up read the DASIS reports supplied by the US government. Its the feds telling you you are addicted and need help in rehab.

I think you are referring to chemical dopamine that strokes the feel good centers of the brain. You can get the same reaction by overeating if you are obese, bunge jumping if you are a adrenalin freak, and jerking off all the time to just name a few. The stimulus releases the chemical.

[QUOTE=jt1135]I think you are referring to chemical dopamine that strokes the feel good centers of the brain. You can get the same reaction by overeating if you are obese, bunge jumping if you are a adrenalin freak, and JERKING OFF ALL THE TIME to just name a few. The stimulus releases the chemical.[/QUOTE]

Ahhhh, i thought i just had lots to give:blush2:

[QUOTE=famousdavis]I see. So all of those people that are in rehab because they can't stop smoking pot every single day, 8 times a day, could really quit if they wanted to. Just like a decision not to eat pizza. Hey, if you like smoking pot go right ahead but don't come on here and start talking about how marijuana is not addictive. It is physically addictive because over time it changes the physical makeup of your brain. The neuro-transmitters in your brain become less active over time and need something external to stimulate them. That's why people keep smoking more often with greater dosage.
The guy I was telling you about earlier that I knew in college? He hated the fact that he couldn't stop smoking pot. It's not just mental if the drug changes your brain's chemistry over time.[/QUOTE]
I hear pot heads trotting out that "it isn't physically addictive" line all the time. I don't care if white coated boffins can deduce physical adiction or non addiction by watching the ractions of genetically engineered mice, the truth is pot is one of the hardest durgs to quit for life. Whether it's physical or psychological, addiction is addiction. I'd opine that psychological addiction is probably harder to quit because at leat with physical addiction once you lose the physical cravings you have no reason to continue using. FONs comment about peole continuing to do it because they like it is also humouous. Of course people like doing it. It's because they are addicts and 'like' to get their fix. I've known a couple of people who have managed to givew up the green, and in every case it's been because tey have been able to see the damage it was doing ot them and they knew their life would end up fukt if they didn't stop. One of the guys I'm talking about is a super high IQ genius who noted his IQ dropping and didn't want to end up a dead head.

If you want any more evidence about how bad pot is for your health, Ty Webb discussed smoking pot with Danny Noonan in an opening scene, and then later referred to himself as a veg. Caddyshack trumps any evidence, no matter how scientifically accurate, so it is therefore proven that pot is bad for you.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]I see. So all of those people that are in rehab because they can't stop smoking pot every single day, 8 times a day, could really quit if they wanted to. Just like a decision not to eat pizza. Hey, if you like smoking pot go right ahead but don't come on here and start talking about how marijuana is not addictive.[/QUOTE]

I already said it was PSYCHOLOGICALLY addictive. So is reading your horoscope... and they print those in the newspaper. Watching a TV series is psychologically addictive. Golf is psychologically addictive.

Seriously... "but don't come on here and..." no... just... don't start THAT with me. I'm the one with the experience, I'm the one with first hand knowledge, I'm the one who knows the people and knows the scene. Don't YOU even try to pretend you know anything about the subject... at all. Because you don't. At all.

You wanna know the first "enlightenment" you experience when you smoke MJ for the first time? It goes something like this... "Damn, everything everyone told me about MJ was either exaggerated half-truths or bold-faced lies. I wonder how many other things I've been accepting people's word for are also a bunch of BS?". Do you know how often dogma is honest? Practically never, that defeats the purpose of dogma. Dogma is intended to prevent you from asking questions and thinking too much for yourself... likely not a problem with which you're too familiar.

[QUOTE]It is physically addictive because over time it changes the physical makeup of your brain. The neuro-transmitters in your brain become less active over time and need something external to stimulate them. That's why people keep smoking more often with greater dosage.[/QUOTE]

You just described PSYCHOLOGICAL addiction. Physical addiction is evidenced by symptoms of withdrawal, and in the case of MJ, all withdrawal symptoms have been observed to be psychological. Alcohol creates physical addiction. The body adapts to the presence of alcohol and reacts negatively when the alcohol is removed. No such thing happens with MJ. All of the withdrawal symptoms are psychological.

[QUOTE]The guy I was telling you about earlier that I knew in college? He hated the fact that he couldn't stop smoking pot. [B] It's not just mental if the drug changes your brain's chemistry over time[/B].[/QUOTE]

In fact, that's the exact definition of "mental". If it's so addictive, why do so many people successfully quit smoking it all the time? Ask the guys on this forum... lots of them have successfully quit smoking it. How many of them do you think required rehab? Lost their jobs? Destroyed their families? Hit rock bottom? How about the people who just like to have a little puff now and then? Why do they not become chronic users? Why are they unable to say no to cheeseburgers but they'll say no to MJ more often than not? Why is MJ so easy to use only in moderation? Why?

It's clear what you WANT to believe, but it's also obvious that you tend to ignore a hell of a lot of evidence and credible testimony to do so. Willful ignorance is no excuse for prejudice.



FON

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]I hear pot heads trotting out that "it isn't physically addictive" line all the time. I don't care if white coated boffins can deduce physical adiction or non addiction by watching the ractions of genetically engineered mice, the truth is pot is one of the hardest durgs to quit for life. Whether it's physical or psychological, addiction is addiction. I'd opine that psychological addiction is probably harder to quit because at leat with physical addiction once you lose the physical cravings you have no reason to continue using. FONs comment about peole continuing to do it because they like it is also humouous. Of course people like doing it. It's because they are addicts and 'like' to get their fix. I've known a couple of people who have managed to givew up the green, and in every case it's been because tey have been able to see the damage it was doing ot them and they knew their life would end up fukt if they didn't stop. One of the guys I'm talking about is a super high IQ genius who noted his IQ dropping and didn't want to end up a dead head.

If you want any more evidence about how bad pot is for your health, Ty Webb discussed smoking pot with Danny Noonan in an opening scene, and then later referred to himself as a veg. Caddyshack trumps any evidence, no matter how scientifically accurate, so it is therefore proven that pot is bad for you.[/QUOTE]

Whether it's psychological or physical addiction is not the real issue... addiction is a rampant part of everyone's lives. This isn't about addiction - this is an issue of prejudice based on lies fabricated for the sake of racism and profit : [URL="http://www.articlesbase.com/spirituality-articles/unfortunate-history-of-marijuana-prohibition-in-the-united-states-908660.html"]http://www.articlesbase.com/spirituality-articles/unfortunate-history-of-marijuana-prohibition-in-the-united-states-908660.html[/URL]

Tell me, could you quit eating vegan tomorrow and start eating meat? No? Why not? Does that make you an addict, if you are unwilling to change your habits? If sitting down to have a leak offered significant sanitary advantages over standing up, would you sacrifice the freedom of standing up to piss just to reduce your chances of bacterial contamination by 3%?

The super genius friend story absolutely slays me... because I happen to be one of those people, and I haven't lost an IQ point since my first IQ test when I was 6 years old (I was one of those kids who skipped a grade early on in school), and I've been smoking MJ since high school.

You've been around long enough to know just how many stupid people exist in society. Just have a look around the internet for a minute. They are everywhere. Some of them also smoke weed. Some of them are vegans. I promise not to judge your choices by their example if you can do the same for me in return. We both know that just because dumb people make the same choices we do doesn't mean our choices are dumb. Even retards occasionally make it to the toilet on time.

I'm not saying it's healthy, or good for you, or that everyone should do it... I'm just asking that those who make a different choice not tread on myself and those like me, lest I have to dirty my shoe by sticking it deeply into someone's rectal cavity. Because I can. And I will.

And just to stir the pot (pun intended) some more... which would you rather have your kid take to school, a handgun or a joint? Which is going to do more harm? Something for the anti-MJ libertarians to ponder... :cool:



FON

[QUOTE=FreakOfNature]Whether it's psychological or physical addiction is not the real issue... addiction is a rampant part of everyone's lives. This isn't about addiction - this is an issue of prejudice based on lies fabricated for the sake of racism and profit : [URL="http://www.articlesbase.com/spirituality-articles/unfortunate-history-of-marijuana-prohibition-in-the-united-states-908660.html"]http://www.articlesbase.com/spirituality-articles/unfortunate-history-of-marijuana-prohibition-in-the-united-states-908660.html[/URL]

Tell me, could you quit eating vegan tomorrow and start eating meat? No? Why not? Does that make you an addict, if you are unwilling to change your habits? If sitting down to have a leak offered significant sanitary advantages over standing up, would you sacrifice the freedom of standing up to piss just to reduce your chances of bacterial contamination by 3%?

The super genius friend story absolutely slays me... because I happen to be one of those people, and I haven't lost an IQ point since my first IQ test when I was 6 years old (I was one of those kids who skipped a grade early on in school), and I've been smoking MJ since high school.

You've been around long enough to know just how many stupid people exist in society. Just have a look around the internet for a minute. They are everywhere. Some of them also smoke weed. Some of them are vegans. I promise not to judge your choices by their example if you can do the same for me in return. We both know that just because dumb people make the same choices we do doesn't mean our choices are dumb. Even retards occasionally make it to the toilet on time.

I'm not saying it's healthy, or good for you, or that everyone should do it... I'm just asking that those who make a different choice not tread on myself and those like me, lest I have to dirty my shoe by sticking it deeply into someone's rectal cavity. Because I can. And I will.

And just to stir the pot (pun intended) some more... which would you rather have your kid take to school, a handgun or a joint? Which is going to do more harm? Something for the anti-MJ libertarians to ponder... :cool:



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You shouldn't be trying to sterotype vegans as being dumb just because some vegans you know are dumb. In general that is no baisis for an intelligent argument, but especially considering famous vegans/vegetarians include Pyhtagoras, Da Vinci, Tesla, Tosltoy, Einstein (for the last part of his life), Mark Twain, Socrates, Plato, just to name a few. I think you would find a few fairly high IQs in that lot. And in answer to your parallel of smoking pot and veganism, that may be valid if you were a rastafarian, but in your argument it really is irrelevant. Veganism is a philosophical way of life, and is about what you don't do. It's illogical to say that it is the same as being ADDICTED to grass.

As for your hypothetical at the end there, a person of your intellect should foresee that using hypotheticals can be a slippery slope. It is usually the realm of those who can't effectively put forward an argument, and try to answer a question with a question. In relation to your particular hypothetical, I would absolutely prefer my kid t go school packing heat than pot. With the gun, it may well save their life, like if some punk tries to heavy them they can pull out the piece and pop a cap in their arse. If that scenario doesn't unfld (which it probably won't), the chances are it will stay in the bag for their entire schooling and do no damage to anyone (remember guns don't kill people, small lead projectiles travelling at high speeds do). If they take a joint to school you are guaranteed they are doing damage to their brain and IQ, and opening themself to the possibility of long term mental illness.

Speaking of mental illness, maybe you are losing IQ points form all the weed but won't admit it. Denial is a sure sign of mental illness, and an even surer sign of addiction (I'd guess denial is close ot the top of the list of mental issues with addicts). Maybe you aren't the genius you claim to be, and are instead just a wacked out dead head living out a delusion of grandeur fom your smoke filled room in your mothers basement. I'm not saying you are (more than likely you are what you say you are), just that anything is possible.

[quote=FreakOfNature]Whether it's psychological or physical addiction is not the real issue... addiction is a rampant part of everyone's lives. This isn't about addiction - this is an issue of prejudice based on lies fabricated for the sake of racism and profit : [URL="http://www.articlesbase.com/spirituality-articles/unfortunate-history-of-marijuana-prohibition-in-the-united-states-908660.html"]http://www.articlesbase.com/spirituality-articles/unfortunate-history-of-marijuana-prohibition-in-the-united-states-908660.html[/URL]

Tell me, could you quit eating vegan tomorrow and start eating meat? No? Why not? Does that make you an addict, if you are unwilling to change your habits? If sitting down to have a leak offered significant sanitary advantages over standing up, would you sacrifice the freedom of standing up to piss just to reduce your chances of bacterial contamination by 3%?

The super genius friend story absolutely slays me... because I happen to be one of those people, and I haven't lost an IQ point since my first IQ test when I was 6 years old (I was one of those kids who skipped a grade early on in school), and I've been smoking MJ since high school.

You've been around long enough to know just how many stupid people exist in society. Just have a look around the internet for a minute. They are everywhere. Some of them also smoke weed. Some of them are vegans. I promise not to judge your choices by their example if you can do the same for me in return. We both know that just because dumb people make the same choices we do doesn't mean our choices are dumb. Even retards occasionally make it to the toilet on time.

I'm not saying it's healthy, or good for you, or that everyone should do it... I'm just asking that those who make a different choice not tread on myself and those like me, lest I have to dirty my shoe by sticking it deeply into someone's rectal cavity. Because I can. And I will.

And just to stir the pot (pun intended) some more... which would you rather have your kid take to school, a handgun or a joint? Which is going to do more harm? Something for the anti-MJ libertarians to ponder... :cool:



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No, it's physical if your brain chemistry and nerve recepters are actully stunted and not performing correctly. They taken x-rays of a brain that has been effected by marijuana use over several years and it's completely different than one that hasn't. That's physical. It means that your brain has physically changed and is not the same as it was before you started smoking.

Psychological would be if nothing physically has changed in your body but you simply miss the experience. Haven't you seen examples of people who smoked so much pot that they are permanently damaged from it? The people who are addicted to it are at some point between that and when they first began.

Who cares if you've done it and I haven't? That's like saying I can't comment on Hockey because I've never played it.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]No, it's physical if your brain chemistry and nerve recepters are actully stunted and not performing correctly. They taken x-rays of a brain that has been effected by marijuana use over several years and it's completely different than one that hasn't. That's physical. It means that your brain has physically changed and is not the same as it was before you started smoking.

Psychological would be if nothing physically has changed in your body but you simply miss the experience. Haven't you seen examples of people who smoked so much pot that they are permanently damaged from it? The people who are addicted to it are at some point between that and when they first began.

Who cares if you've done it and I haven't? [B]That's like saying I can't comment on Hockey because I've never played it[/B].[/QUOTE]
Or winning GR matchplay matches against GFF weilding homeless guys.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]No, it's physical if your brain chemistry and nerve recepters are actully stunted and not performing correctly. They taken x-rays of a brain that has been effected by marijuana use over several years and it's completely different than one that hasn't. That's physical. It means that your brain has physically changed and is not the same as it was before you started smoking.

Psychological would be if nothing physically has changed in your body but you simply miss the experience. Haven't you seen examples of people who smoked so much pot that they are permanently damaged from it? The people who are addicted to it are at some point between that and when they first began.

Who cares if you've done it and I haven't? That's like saying I can't comment on Hockey because I've never played it.[/QUOTE]


I'd like to see a link to an article about this x-ray study if it's all the same to you, because quite frankly - I think it's a pile of BS. Even if you're correct and it does change brain chemistry... that doesn't mean it makes people dumb or less capable. Blind people experience altered brain chemistry and neurological pathways in compensation to their disadvantage. They learn to hear more acutely than non-disadvantaged individuals, and often learn something akin to "second sight". Even if some change does occur in the brain chemistry of pot smokers, has it been proven to be a BAD thing? Or is it just assumed to be bad because it's change? I think it depends on who you talk to, and how socially conservative they are. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle, as usual.

Also, I have not seen examples of anyone being permanently damaged from pot usage. That is just another baseless claim purported by those who have an interest in spreading propaganda. Regardless, if someone wishes to slowly kill themselves by smoking pot, they should have just as much right to do so as those who choose to kill themselves slowly by overeating, or those who slowly pickle themselves with alcohol, etc... It's no different. This isn't the issue.

As far as the commenting on hockey analogy goes - sure, go ahead. If you somehow think your opinions on hockey have the same merit as the opinions of those who play the game for a living... then you're simply delusional. You're not an expert... a pro hockey player IS an expert. That's like saying Larry knows just as much about golf and the golf swing as anyone else on GR, just because he has an opinion.

You don't know half as much as you think you know when it comes to pot. You're opinionated, but uninformed. Sorry I have to treat you as such.



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[QUOTE=FreakOfNature]I'd like to see a link to an article about this x-ray study if it's all the same to you, because quite frankly - I think it's a pile of BS. Even if you're correct and it does change brain chemistry... that doesn't mean it makes people dumb or less capable. Blind people experience altered brain chemistry and neurological pathways in compensation to their disadvantage. They learn to hear more acutely than non-disadvantaged individuals, and often learn something akin to "second sight". Even if some change does occur in the brain chemistry of pot smokers, has it been proven to be a BAD thing? Or is it just assumed to be bad because it's change? I think it depends on who you talk to, and how socially conservative they are. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle, as usual.

Also, [B]I have not seen examples of anyone being permanently damaged from pot usage. That is just another baseless claim purported by those who have an interest in spreading propaganda[/B]. Regardless, if someone wishes to slowly kill themselves by smoking pot, they should have just as much right to do so as those who choose to kill themselves slowly by overeating, or those who slowly pickle themselves with alcohol, etc... It's no different. This isn't the issue.

As far as the commenting on hockey analogy goes - sure, go ahead. If you somehow think your opinions on hockey have the same merit as the opinions of those who play the game for a living... then you're simply delusional. You're not an expert... a pro hockey player IS an expert. That's like saying Larry knows just as much about golf and the golf swing as anyone else on GR, just because he has an opinion.

You don't know half as much as you think you know when it comes to pot. You're opinionated, but uninformed. Sorry I have to treat you as such.



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So I suppose memory loss and mental illness is no big deal, not what you would consider damage. You shoud just quit while you're behind, you are just digging yourself deeper and deeper. You should stop living in denial and get help while you still have some brain cells left.

[url]http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/06/04/2264668.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]So I suppose shizophrenia is no big deal, ot what you would consider damage. You shoud just quit while you're behind, you are just digging yourself deeper and deeper.[/QUOTE]


I suppose all cases of schizophrenia are caused by weed? I guess all weed users develop schizophrenia? You're really reaching here.

I think I'll stay the course until something greater than anecdotal evidence is brought to the case.

As I've said before, my argument is that weed is not PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE. There are no physical symptoms of withdrawal, only psychological dependence - which is very typical of any habit forming behavior.

Smoking weed is a HABIT. Eating a meal at 12PM every day is a habit. Having a couple beers while you watch the game is a habit. Smoking a joint when you get home from work is a habit. Taking a shower every morning is a habit. Brushing your teeth is a habit. Kissing your wife goodnight is a habit.

Are we seriously going to vilify all habit-forming behavior just because it's common to "drug" use? Will that actually be enough to justify all the misinformation and prejudice?

Smoking a joint every once in a while does nothing to a person. Only extremely chronic users have a chance of being adversely affected (mostly with bronchitis). Most people who use don't smoke chronically, just occasionally. You guys are really stereotyping and misrepresenting the majority of users by judging them by the worst of the worst. Not every pot smoker is a homeless welfare case (where does a broke-ass homeless person get the money to buy drugs, anyway?)... some of them are your dentists, your lawyers, your accountants, your bosses... I know you'd like to think all pot smokers are losers, etc... but in reality you're probably bigger losers than a lot of potheads are.

Prescription antidepressants are FAR more addictive and dangerous than weed will ever be (yet weed does the same job much more safely), and yet they're socially acceptable (go figure). What a bass ackward society.



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[QUOTE=FreakOfNature]I suppose all cases of schizophrenia are caused by weed? I guess all weed users develop schizophrenia? You're really reaching here.

I think I'll stay the course until something greater than anecdotal evidence is brought to the case.

As I've said before, my argument is that weed is not PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE. There are no physical symptoms of withdrawal, only psychological dependence - which is very typical of any habit forming behavior.

Smoking weed is a HABIT. Eating a meal at 12PM every day is a habit. Having a couple beers while you watch the game is a habit. Smoking a joint when you get home from work is a habit. Taking a shower every morning is a habit. Brushing your teeth is a habit. Kissing your wife goodnight is a habit.

Are we seriously going to vilify all habit-forming behavior just because it's common to "drug" use? Will that actually be enough to justify all the misinformation and prejudice?

[B]Smoking a joint every once in a while does nothing to a person. Only extremely chronic users have a chance of being adversely affected (mostly with bronchitis). Most people who use don't smoke chronically, just occasionally.[/B] You guys are really stereotyping and misrepresenting the majority of users by judging them by the worst of the worst. Not every pot smoker is a homeless welfare case (where does a broke-ass homeless person get the money to buy drugs, anyway?)... some of them are your dentists, your lawyers, your accountants, your bosses... I know you'd like to think all pot smokers are losers, etc... but in reality you're probably bigger losers than a lot of potheads are.

Prescription antidepressants are FAR more addictive and dangerous than weed will ever be (yet weed does the same job much more safely), and yet they're socially acceptable (go figure). What a bass ackward society.



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I wasn't going to bring lung disease into the argument as I thought it was common knowledge that smoking pot causes laung cancer. But as you are trying to say that lung disease isn't a big deal in pot smokers it is fair game.

[url]http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080123104017.htm[/url]

P.S. Clinical research studies over periods of 10 years is a little more than 'anecdotal' evidence.

[quote=Not a hacker]I wasn't going to bring lung disease into the argument as I thought it was common knowledge that smoking pot causes laung cancer. But as you are trying to say that lung disease isn't a big deal in pot smokers it is fair game.

[URL="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080123104017.htm"]http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080123104017.htm[/URL]

P.S. Clinical research studies over periods of 10 years is a little more than 'anecdotal' evidence.[/quote]

I must be stoned because I'm thinking of using the Taylormade Supersteel irons for awhile. I took out the 8, 9 & PW and put them on the ground and I was very surprised to see how little offset they have. In fact, they hardly have any offset at all. This may be the perfect set for me because it has forgiveness but very little offset in the short irons. When I took the 7 iron to the range it felt great...and that's with hitting rocks. I'm not sure if I'll like the S-90 Rifle shafts but we'll see.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]I must be stoned because I'm thinking of using the Taylormade Supersteel irons for awhile. I took out the 8, 9 & PW and put them on the ground and I was very surprised to see how little offset they have. In fact, they hardly have any offset at all. This may be the perfect set for me because it has forgiveness but very little offset in the short irons. When I took the 7 iron to the range it felt great...and that's with hitting rocks. I'm not sure if I'll like the S-90 Rifle shafts but we'll see.[/QUOTE]
They also have a 4.47 average over in the review section, and we all know they are hard markers there, especially the 90s shooters who really know thier stuff. What are you waiting for?

[quote=Not a hacker]They also have a 4.47 average over in the review section, and we all know they are hard markers there, especially the 90s shooters who really know thier stuff. What are you waiting for?[/quote]

You're just jealous because you don't have a set of Supersteels. I'm telling you, the steel really is super. I feel like a New Yorker now because I'm saying Super all the time. Like, these irons are super! They are super long. You wanna play? Yes? Super!!

[QUOTE=famousdavis]You're just jealous because you don't have a set of Supersteels. I'm telling you, the steel really is super. I feel like a New Yorker now because I'm saying Super all the time. Like, these irons are super! They are super long. You wanna play? Yes? Super!![/QUOTE]
I honestly think you should take them out. They aren't that old really, abut 10 years? That means they will have the same jacked up lofts of new clubs, so you own't lose distance. I actually think they look ok and would certainly not look down on anyone bagging them.

Had to bump it so I was the last.

Anything with the word "last" in it is a candidate for a movie title. i.e. The Last Airbender, The Last of the Mohicans, The Last Emperor, Free at Last.

The Last Poster will undoubtedly get made into a movie someday but unfortunately, jt, it isn't likely you'll be in the final scene.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]Anything with the word "last" in it is a candidate for a movie title. i.e. The Last Airbender, The Last of the Mohicans, The Last Emperor, Free at Last.

The Last Poster will undoubtedly get made into a movie someday but unfortunately, jt, it isn't likely you'll be in the final scene.[/QUOTE]
This thread is going to be more like "The Never Ending Story."

[quote=Home-slicer]This thread is going to be more like "The Never Ending Story."[/quote]
Over the millenia it may chronicle the modern history of mankind. Thousands of years from now they'll have Who Is The Last Poster In Many Threads? study classes particularly in the Who Is The Last Poster In Many Threads? Belt.

Which makes me equivalent to Nostradamus.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]Over the millenia it may chroncle the modern history of mankind. Thousands of years from now they'll have Who Is The Last Poster In Many Threads study classes particularly in the Who Is The Last Poster In Many Threads Belt.

Which makes me equivalent to Nostradamus.[/QUOTE]
It's a shame that this is the thread that we'll be remembered for and not the Qtard one. I think AlanG's latest feud with JetDriver proves that he has the determination to outlast us all. Damn, Larry was right. Our only hope is if AlanG discovers girls and Internet porn.

[QUOTE=Home-slicer]It's a shame that this is the thread that we'll be remembered for and not the Qtard one. I think AlanG's latest feud with JetDriver proves that he has the determination to outlast us all. Damn, Larry was right. Our only hope is if AlanG discovers girls and Internet porn.[/QUOTE]

Being an unemployed canadian basement dweller, AG has plenty of time for all the things you mentioned. Girls might be problematic but then he still has porn.

[QUOTE=poe4soul]Being an unemployed canadian basement dweller, AG has plenty of time for all the things you mentioned. Girls might be problematic but then he still has porn.[/QUOTE]
I would think that if he had discovered Internet porn, he would have found something better to do than stalk Larry and google airplane manuals.

[QUOTE=poe4soul]Being an unemployed canadian basement dweller, AG has plenty of time for all the things you mentioned. Girls might be problematic but then he still has porn.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that, and oiling his chain-saw and sharpening his ax.

[QUOTE=Home-slicer]I would think that if he had discovered Internet porn, he would have found something better to do than stalk Larry and google airplane manuals.[/QUOTE]

That depends on the speed of your internet connection. It also depends if you watch the whole video. Most 30 minute porn you can view all of the good scenes in about 3 minutes. All of the talking, undressing, etc. can be skipped. Not to mention that a good basement dweller has to have a balanced life. I would imaging that porn, stalking, technical manuals, role play games, etc. are all part being a successful basement dweller. Not to mention trying to hack into other computers.

[QUOTE=jetdriver]Yeah that, and oiling his chain-saw and sharpening his ax.[/QUOTE]

Then there's eating jelly donuts and drinking two-fours, eh?

Found a picture of alan.

[QUOTE=poe4soul]Then there's eating jelly donuts and drinking two-fours, eh?[/QUOTE]
Do you think Alan can also speak fluent Klingon? I would think that that would be a pre-requisite for any self respecting basement dweller.

Also found a picture of Qtard traveling to his tournaments.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]Do you think Alan can also speak fluent [B]Klingon[/B]? I would think that that would be a pre-requisite for any self respecting basement dweller.[/QUOTE]

I do not think he could cling-on to a pecker too well while he is speaking.

[QUOTE=jt1135]Also found a picture of Qtard traveling to his tournaments.[/QUOTE]
Are they saddle shoes?

[QUOTE=poe4soul]That depends on the speed of your internet connection. It also depends if you watch the whole video. Most 30 minute porn you can view all of the good scenes in about 3 minutes. All of the talking, undressing, etc. can be skipped. Not to mention that a good basement dweller has to have a balanced life. I would imaging that porn, stalking, technical manuals, role play games, etc. are all part being a successful basement dweller. Not to mention trying to hack into other computers.[/QUOTE]

Pretty comprehensive. The only activity I'd add is creating computer viruses and spreading them to everyone he's proven wrong (everyone else).

[QUOTE=jt1135]Also found a picture of Qtard traveling to his tournaments.[/QUOTE]

I imagine as soon as he hits a bump in the road he'll quit pedaling and stop for lunch (eat one of the dogs in his Chinese teepee).

[quote=jt1135]Also found a picture of Qtard traveling to his tournaments.[/quote]

So, is this guy a travel service or do you think he owns the camper? I think it would be a nice way to travel if you're only going a short distance. Take a 2 hour nap or maybe watch some p.orn if it's got a satellite connection. If you pay for it it's kind of like a traveling brothel.

[QUOTE=jt1135]Also found a picture of Qtard traveling to his tournaments.[/QUOTE]


Where's the guesthouse? Kinda selfish of him, huh?

[quote=huskyhater]Where's the guesthouse? Kinda selfish of him, huh?[/quote]

I'm pretty sure it's on the 2nd floor. Actually, I think that's the loft.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]I'm pretty sure it's on the 2nd floor. Actually, I think that's the loft.[/QUOTE]
Poor planning on his part. They guest room should be detachable. How is he supposed to abandon his guest this way?

[quote=Home-slicer]Poor planning on his part. They guest room should be detachable. How is he supposed to abandon his guest this way?[/quote]

The guy on the other side of the street with the bicycle flat bed is cleary envious. He's thinking "wow, that guy with the camper shell must be from uptown".

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]Pretty comprehensive. The only activity I'd add is creating computer viruses and spreading them to everyone he's proven wrong (everyone else).[/QUOTE]

It wouldn't be hard either. Just put a virus in a link promising some nude hot model, ok add doing Flowler with a strapon to get that one last mod, or better golfing in Vietnam would most certainly do the trick. Especially if he hacked this site and posted it using teeessseee's login.

[QUOTE=poe4soul]It wouldn't be hard either. Just put a virus in a link promising some nude hot model, ok add doing Flowler with a strapon to get that one last mod, or better golfing in Vietnam would most certainly do the trick. [B]Especially if he hacked this site and posted it using teeessseee's login[/B].[/QUOTE]

I guess I'm going to have to do some searching of Teessee's old threads. You guys are making me sad that I was not around whenever he was on the forum.

[QUOTE=SoonerBS]I guess I'm going to have to do some searching of Teessee's old threads. You guys are making me sad that I was not around whenever he was on the forum.[/QUOTE]

I was around. If you blinked you missed it.

[QUOTE=SoonerBS]I guess I'm going to have to do some searching of Teessee's old threads. You guys are making me sad that I was not around whenever he was on the forum.[/QUOTE]
It was a great era here on GR. I remember the Teesee days well. If the mods would just unban him everything could come together again. But they stubbornly refuse.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]It was a great era here on GR. I remember the Teesee days well. If the mods would just unban him everything could come together again. But they stubbornly refuse.[/QUOTE]
The integrity and credibility of the mods was irrecovably lost after their appaling handling of the Tesee situation. I'm not necessarily saying they had any integrity or integrity to begin with, only that any chance they had of ever building any credibility was lost forever. I doubt that even a magnanimous decision like unbanning Tesee would get them back with the membership.

[quote=Not a hacker]The integrity and credibility of the mods was irrecovably lost after their appaling handling of the Tesee situation. I'm not necessarily saying they had any integrity or integrity to begin with, only that any chance they had of ever building any credibility was lost forever. I doubt that even a magnanimous decision like unbanning Tesee would get them back with the membership.[/quote]

Now this site will have to rest on the hopefully broad shoulders of Lord Helmet.

Sounds like, The king is dead, long live the king.