huskyhater's Daily Blog

[QUOTE=huskyhater]I remember Irwin bouncing that tee shot off the rocks up into the farway too. Why don't you like him? I'm not a fan either way of him, why your feelings-just curious? And no, I don't go back far enough for the start of the Jack-Arne rivalry. As far as tiger, golf doesn't need the bush league catcalls from the garbage he dragged to the Tour. Back to the tennis and basketball courts! Hit'em straight, Mongrel![/QUOTE]
I really don't know why I didn't like him. Just a visceral TV thing. Once he hit the Senior Tour, I started to rout for him. Go figure. I don't have any problems with straight. I have problems with far. I'll sacrifice some straight for more far and just built a driver last night that will hopefully get me some more far.

[QUOTE=huskyhater]'stevie' is gay, thats what thats about. One thing I harbour ill feelings towards is apologists, nutt-huggers, kinda like tiger wood fans-where have they all gone? You watch a tourney any more and where did all the morons shouting 'get in the hole' go? Are these real fans or band wagonners? Show your stripes wood fans! Or just COMPLETELY go away...forever. And we neevr heard 'get in the water' ever shouted before tiger wood was on tour either. Go away tiger wood and take your 'fans' with you, PGA was here before you and will be here after you. Now if we could clone Arnold, Jack, Freddie we would have it great, wouldn't we?[/QUOTE]

I agree with all of this. Thanks HH for saving me the typing.

[QUOTE=huskyhater]TOPIC-are any of you watching the NCAA basketball tourney? Why is the west coast/Pac Ten always underrated and disrespected? Why was it such a huge upset when Arizona blew Duke out? Why did Auburn football (sec in general) get away with their cheating QB getting to play against Oregon? look at what the NCAA did to USC because of Regge Bush-the sec gets away with that crap all the time-and its known, the Auburn joke proves it. There's a different set of rules for the east and west coast-seems the east coast NCAA honks are simply jealous when west coast is proven better-they had to cheat for Auburn so they could compete aginst Oregon. What would have been done if that was Oregon's QB? Myself, I grew up in Oregon and am tired of the arrogant east coast bias.[/QUOTE]

Way to tell it like it is. I guess jealousy is pervasive.

Yeah even Keith Jackson-the voice of college football on tv for so many years, said he believed (during a game late in his career) there definitely was a bias towards the east coast schools in the polls. Hell, 2/3rds of the voters are camped out on the east coast and brag about how they're too lazy to stay up and watch west coast football. And today good ol' Skip Bayless is on ESPN (SEC, ACC, big east's biggest booster) talking about how stunning the Arizona drubbing of Duke was. It was like the bonehead had never even heard that Arizona had a basketball team before.

[QUOTE=huskyhater]AHHH, when you interrupt the gays they always take it personal and run away. G'bye, gays......stick with your little @$$-licking club instead of real men who question what you roundmouths all have love for. You g(a)uys are ALWAYS looking for someone to rub your backsides...................keep this queer board to yourselves.[/QUOTE]

So what was this post all about? Seems like you called us all a bunch of Faggues. What gives Jack? I can understand you calling me whatever you want, but that was kind of general. Do you get paid per post? or per oval office BJ scheduled? ....Just asking

[QUOTE=jetdriver]So what was this post all about? Seems like you called us all a bunch of Faggues. What gives Jack? I can understand you calling me whatever you want, but that was kind of general. Do you get paid per post? or per oval office BJ scheduled? ....Just asking[/QUOTE]

This post was abuot how much stevie, tiger and their followers should leave the Tour-for the better of the Tour. PGA doesn't need any smart-aleck trash talking out there, or some jerk showing his disrespect by spitting on the greens-and anybody that roots for a jack-@$$ like that is just as bad-thats what THAT is about.
As far as getting 'paid' per post, I posted 9 hrs ago-and that was the first in a week. Thank you for your concern though, have a nice day......the BJ deal-keep that to yourself, not my style.

[QUOTE=huskyhater]This post was abuot how much stevie, tiger and their followers should leave the Tour-for the better of the Tour. PGA doesn't need any smart-aleck trash talking out there, or some jerk showing his disrespect by spitting on the greens-and anybody that roots for a jack-@$$ like that is just as bad-thats what THAT is about.
As far as getting 'paid' per post, I posted 9 hrs ago-and that was the first in a week. Thank you for your concern though, have a nice day......the BJ deal-keep that to yourself, not my style.[/QUOTE]
Ok, I got it. I just did not make that required mental telepathy since the post seemed unrelated to anything else and you did say "keep this queer board to yourselves". .... and then disappead for more than a week.......... guess you pass the test since there is no way anyone would pay you anyway. You are quite an oxymoron (that’s a good thing) you are a leftist politically but have conservative views, I find that fascinating . Please do carry on, I will not bother you any more unless it's an honest disagreement. :)

[QUOTE=jetdriver]Ok, I got it. I just did not make that required mental telepathy since the post seemed unrelated to anything else and you did say "keep this queer board to yourselves". .... I guess you pass the test since there is no way anyone would pay you anyway. You are quite an oxymoron (that’s a good thing) you are a leftist politically but have conservative views, I find that fascinating . Please do carry on, I will not bother you any more unless it's an honest disagreement. :)[/QUOTE]

Thats cool, have a good one.

DING DONG the Witch is dead!
After watching yesteradys coverage in my opinion the world is again a great place-tiger wood will not win this Masters, no way. There are too many younger and better players out there now than when he was fooling everybody into thinking he was an honest man, plus (to my delight) he just doesn't have 'it' any more. Congrats golf fans-no more catcalls from 'his' galleries anymore, 'stevie' (wow an apparent man goes by that hame) won't be tossing old feeble mens camera's (real tough guy 'stevie'....) and HOPEFULLY SOMEDAY the tv coverage won't make it look like tiger is the only player on the driving range while the real and respectful players are out on the course competing. Pretender....step aside and let the class of the Show perform, the rest of the field.

[QUOTE=huskyhater]DING DONG the Witch is dead!
After watching yesteradys coverage in my opinion the world is again a great place-tiger wood will not win this Masters, no way. There are too many younger and better players out there now than when he was fooling everybody into thinking he was an honest man, plus (to my delight) he just doesn't have 'it' any more. Congrats golf fans-no more catcalls from 'his' galleries anymore, 'stevie' (wow an apparent man goes by that hame) won't be tossing old feeble mens camera's (real tough guy 'stevie'....) and HOPEFULLY SOMEDAY the tv coverage won't make it look like tiger is the only player on the driving range while the real and respectful players are out on the course competing. Pretender....step aside and let the class of the Show perform, the rest of the field.[/QUOTE]

Dude why don't you change your user ID to tigerhater?

We get the message now STFU newbie!

Tiger's over par for the day so far. Some more loose shots and we won't have to see him throw grass at 10+ strokes back while trying to block the hemorrhoid pain, over the weekend.

Worth hoping for.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Dude why don't you change your user ID to tigerhater?

We get the message now STFU newbie![/QUOTE]

Remind me, weren't you the one whining about being banned? Go eat some watermelon, fried chicken, or collared greens.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Dude why don't you change your user ID to tigerhater?

We get the message now STFU newbie![/QUOTE]

When tiger wood hits a good shot, how come only half the people (the smarter looking ones) clap? And why would somebody be so stupid as to yell 'come on tiger' when someone elses' putt is rolling towards the hole? What is WRONG with these 'people'?

[QUOTE=huskyhater][B]Remind me, weren't you the one whining about being banned?[/B] Go eat some watermelon, fried chicken, or collared greens.[/QUOTE]

Not me.

Man you must have hated watching Tigers round today from the 7th hole onwards.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]Tiger's over par for the day so far. Some more loose shots and we won't have to see him throw grass at 10+ strokes back while trying to block the hemorrhoid pain, over the weekend.

[B]Worth hoping for[/B].[/QUOTE]

Well that turned out to be a pretty forlorn hope. I started watching the coverage shortly after reading your post and Tiger pretty much turned it around from there on. Great birdy on 18 after a shite drive.

We'll see how your BOY does tomorrow, he's developed a habit of not finishing real strong, nutt hugger. 'Hang' in there, don't drink too much celebrating tonight, wouldn't want your little pinhead to hurt too much tomorrow while watching wood shoot 77. Why would someone from NZ root for wood-why your woody for wood? Do you have pics of him on your bedroom walls? Enlighten me............did he blow a kiss once and you felt a "tink" on your cheek-what is it big boy?

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Well that turned out to be a pretty forlorn hope. I started watching the coverage shortly after reading your post and Tiger pretty much turned it around from there on. Great birdy on 18 after a shite drive.[/QUOTE]

Did you stroke yourself to an 0rga$im? Thought so, wannabe...................

[quote=huskyhater]When tiger wood hits a good shot, how come only half the people (the smarter looking ones) clap? And why would somebody be so stupid as to yell 'come on tiger' when someone elses' putt is rolling towards the hole? What is WRONG with these 'people'?[/quote]

I heard that yell too and I can't stand when patrons do that crap. What the hell is wrong with someone to yell another golfer's name when the guy is putting? I'm assuming you could get removed from the course for that. What makes it worse is when it's an international player and it makes it look like the patron is actually against the foreign player. These people with no class need to get removed from the course. You don't see that at the British Open and it's embarassing to think that Americans can't have enough class to wish the foreign players success.

So how's that humble pie tasting HH?

[QUOTE=huskyhater]We'll see how your BOY does tomorrow, he's developed a habit of not finishing real strong, nutt hugger. 'Hang' in there, don't drink too much celebrating tonight, wouldn't want your little pinhead to hurt too much tomorrow while watching wood shoot 77. Why would someone from NZ root for wood-why your woody for wood? Do you have pics of him on your bedroom walls? Enlighten me............did he blow a kiss once and you felt a "tink" on your cheek-what is it big boy?[/QUOTE]

You got me all wrong HH. I'm no Tiger lover. I'm as surprised as anybody to see him up the leaderboard and wouldn't be surprised if he crashes and burns tomorrow. I'm personally hoping that young Aussie guy Day can hang in there or alternatively a 1st Major win for McIlroy would be great.

I'm just tired of reading your anti Woods rants. Get over it.

And for the second time today STFU newby.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]I heard that yell too and I can't stand when patrons do that crap. What the hell is wrong with someone to yell another golfer's name when the guy is putting? I'm assuming you could get removed from the course for that. What makes it worse is when it's an international player and it makes it look like the patron is actually against the foreign player. These people with no class need to get removed from the course. You don't see that at the British Open and it's embarassing to think that Americans can't have enough class to wish the foreign players success.[/QUOTE]

Did anybody else hear when Tiger hit a great tee shot on the par 3 sixth somebody yelled "Be the ball!"

No wonder it was a great shot. :D

Tiger missed the birdie putt though.

Edit: actually Tiger made the putt. My bad, but he bogied the very next hole before starting his run of 7 birdies in 11 holes that sent HH into rapture.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]I heard that yell too and I can't stand when patrons do that crap. What the hell is wrong with someone to yell another golfer's name when the guy is putting? I'm assuming you could get removed from the course for that. What makes it worse is when it's an international player and it makes it look like the patron is actually against the foreign player. These people with no class need to get removed from the course. You don't see that at the British Open and it's embarassing to think that Americans can't have enough class to wish the foreign players success.[/QUOTE]
I bet you didn't mind this sort of classless behaviour when Monty was the target?

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Did anybody else hear when Tiger hit a great tee shot on the par 3 sixth somebody yelled [B]"Be the ball!"[/B]
No wonder it was a great shot. :D

Tiger missed the birdie putt though.

Edit: actually Tiger made the putt. My bad, but he bogied the very next hole before starting his run of 7 birdies in 11 holes that sent HH into rapture.[/QUOTE]

I think he fealt what it was like to "be the ball" moments before he had his little accident last year. The alleged iron swinging blonde x made that a learning experience.

[QUOTE=jetdriver]I think he fealt what it was like to "be the ball" moments before he had his little accident last year. The alleged iron swinging blonde x made that a learning experience.[/QUOTE]
POTD. One of your best JD. Not that there was much to beat so far.

[quote=Not a hacker]I bet you didn't mind this sort of classless behaviour when Monty was the target?[/quote]

Yes I did. I've always liked Colin Montgomery and I have never understood why so many Americans have given him a hard time over the years. He probably could have handled it better.

[quote=Kiwi Player]Well that turned out to be a pretty forlorn hope. I started watching the coverage shortly after reading your post and Tiger pretty much turned it around from there on. Great birdy on 18 after a shite drive.[/quote]
He may be as hard to kill as bacteria, but a little pressure will be the anti-biotic that will get that sorry game of his to crumble.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]Yes I did. I've always liked Colin Montgomery and I have never understood why so many Americans have given him a hard time over the years. He probably could have handled it better.[/QUOTE]
This must be a troll.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Did anybody else hear when Tiger hit a great tee shot on the par 3 sixth somebody yelled "Be the ball!"

No wonder it was a great shot. :D

Tiger missed the birdie putt though.

Edit: actually Tiger made the putt. My bad, but he bogied the very next hole before starting his run of 7 birdies in 11 holes that sent HH into rapture.[/QUOTE]

Where's your 'boy' at NOW...........? Think he's gonna win? Let me clue you in, my 'lesser' friend...your 'boy' WILL NOT win-AGAIN. DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!! Your boy is done, so you can go back to fantasy golf, tennis, badminton, or whatever you did before you pretended to be before you fantasized about being a golfer! You can leave now, apologies accepted in advance...........tigger is DONE.

[QUOTE=huskyhater][B]Where's your 'boy' at NOW[/B]...........? Think he's gonna win? Let me clue you in, my 'lesser' friend...your 'boy' WILL NOT win-AGAIN. DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!! Your boy is done, so you can go back to fantasy golf, tennis, badminton, or whatever you did before you pretended to be before you fantasized about being a golfer! You can leave now, apologies accepted in advance...........tigger is DONE.[/QUOTE]

My boy McIlroy is 12 under, leading by 4 shots. I hope he can hold on for his breakthrough Major win.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]My boy McIlroy is 12 under, leading by 4 shots. I hope he can hold on for his breakthrough Major win.[/QUOTE]

I'd go for that too.....ANYBODY but tiger wood.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]My boy McIlroy is 12 under, leading by 4 shots. I hope he can hold on for his breakthrough Major win.[/QUOTE]
I would like to see McIlroy win it too, it would be good for the game. I would prefer to see one of the Aussies beak through for a major, but if not them McIlroy is the non Aussie on the leaderboard I'd like to see win it. His driving has been superb this week, and his nerve held p remarkably well today. He thoroughly deserves to be going into Sunday with a 4 shot lead. Let's hoe he doesn't do a Norman and choke his arse off, that wuld be a tragedy.

Well Rory choked, I was hoping he would have done well. I think these new kids are too much into Swing Mechanics. Nicklaus and them old school guys played by feel, sure they worked on their swing but played by feel.

[QUOTE=jetdriver]Well Rory choked, I was hoping he would have done well. I think these new kids are too much into Swing Mechanics. Nicklaus and them old school guys played by feel, sure they worked on their swing but played by feel.[/QUOTE]

Even the commentators would agree with this as they pointed out that Rory's arms were not as "free swinging" as they had been in the first three rounds. Of course, that is what happens whenever you get nervous and tight.

[QUOTE=SoonerBS]Even the commentators would agree with this as they pointed out that Rory's arms were not as "free swinging" as they had been in the first three rounds. Of course, that is what happens whenever you get nervous and tight.[/QUOTE]
I just find from my experience if I were to rely on my "steering mechanics" when operating a machine under pressure, I would be Splatt Sheite everytime things got a little hairy. You know , when you drive a car as an adult you do not think of turning the steering wheel, you think in terms of making your car follow your intended path. Some times you do not even have to think about it at all.

[quote=jetdriver]I just find from my experience if I were to rely on my "stearing mechanics" when operating a machine under pressure, I would be Splatt Sheite everytime things got a little hairy. You know , when you drive a car as an adult you do not think of turning the steering wheel, you think in terms of making your car follow your intended path. Some times you do not even have to think about it at all.[/quote]

I don't see Rory's swing as mechanical at all. He hit a bad drive (probably hit a tree and kicked left) and then he made bad decisions. He easily could have made a bogey out of it and just chose poorly. You don't try and hit a 3 wood 300 yards after you just yanked a drive left.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]I don't see Rory's swing as mechanical at all. He hit a bad drive (probably hit a tree and kicked left) and then he made bad decisions. He easily could have made a bogey out of it and just chose poorly. You don't try and hit a 3 wood 300 yards after you just yanked a drive left.[/QUOTE]
I do not mean that his swing is mechanical, I mean that it seems to me that this new generation may be more swing mechanics oriented, and it may be more subjected to pressure than a thoughless swing. Humans revert back to their training under stress and if their training enphesis is swing mechanics that is what will be on their mind under stress. Humans are geared towards throwing rocks, (balls) and such, towards a target without the thought of shifting weight, winding up and whipping the wrist details.

[QUOTE=jetdriver]I do not mean that his swing is mechanical, I mean that [B]it seems to me that this new generation may be more swing mechanics oriented, and it may be more subjected to pressure than a thoughless swing[/B]. Humans revert back to their training under stress and if their training enphesis is swing mechanics that is what will be on their mind under stress. Humans are geared towards throwing rocks, (balls) and such, towards a target without the thought of shifting weight, winding up and whipping the wrist details.[/QUOTE]

Yeah you're right. Back in the day great players like Greg Norman played by feel, not by swing mechanics. That's why his swing was so solid and never broke down under pressure. He never choked when leading a major tournament.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Yeah you're right. Back in the day great players like Greg Norman played by feel, not by swing mechanics. That's why his swing was so solid and never broke down under pressure. He never choked when leading a major tournament.[/QUOTE]

You are a very hard man Kiwi. Just because Bob Charles never choked dosen't mean you have to be so cruel to one of our high achievers. Charles and his counterpart our own Peter Thompson were both very natural swingers of the club. BTW I think Rory has one of the best natural swings seen on tour in recent years.

On another note Kiwi you probably didn't notice the Aussies demolishing Bangladesh. I just finished watching the match live. Australia reached the target of 227 in just over 25 overs for the loss of one wicket. Watson made 185 off 96 deliveries including 15 fours and 15 sixes!! This is a world record for number of sixes in a 50 over inings by a long shot. The previous best was 11. Awesome to watch.

[QUOTE=oldplayer]On another note Kiwi you probably didn't notice the Aussies demolishing Bangladesh. I just finished watching the match live. Australia reached the target of 227 in just over 25 overs for the loss of one wicket. [B]Watson made 185 off 96 deliveries including 15 fours and 15 sixes!![/B] This is a world record for number of sixes in a 50 over inings by a long shot. The previous best was 11. Awesome to watch.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I heard about this. Pretty amazing personal achievement for Watson. But on the other hand come on, since when does the once mighty OZ Cricket Team get excited about beating Bangladesh?

[QUOTE=oldplayer]You are a very hard man Kiwi. Just because Bob Charles never choked dosen't mean you have to be so cruel to one of our high achievers. Charles and his counterpart our own Peter Thompson were both very natural swingers of the club. BTW I think Rory has one of the best natural swings seen on tour in recent years.[/QUOTE]

LOL - it wasn't so much a knock on Norman it was more questioning the idea put forth by Jetdriver that these modern guys swings are too mechanical and break down under pressure. I just used Norman as a convenient example to illustrate that when the pressure is on any player can choke regardless of the type of swing they have. In terms of Rory it wasn't just his swing. Did you see some of those short putts he missed. The poor kid completely unraveled.

[QUOTE=oldplayer]You are a very hard man Kiwi. Just because Bob Charles never choked [B]dosen't mean you have to be so cruel to one of our high achievers.[/B] Charles and his counterpart our own Peter Thompson were both very natural swingers of the club. BTW I think Rory has one of the best natural swings seen on tour in recent years.[/QUOTE]


I agree. You know, the Academy Awards gives out a token Academy Award to long time actors or producers who were never able to achieve on their own merits. Maybe Augusta could give Greg Norman a "Lifetime Achievement Green Jacket" for all the attempts and near victories he made.

[quote=SoonerBS]I agree. You know, the Academy Awards gives out a token Academy Award to long time actors or producers who were never able to achieve on their own merits. Maybe Augusta could give Greg Norman a "Lifetime Achievement Green Jacket" for all the attempts and near victories he made.[/quote]

More appropriate would be "Lifetime Achievement Brown Pants."

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Yeah you're right. Back in the day great players like Greg Norman played by feel, not by swing mechanics. That's why his swing was so solid and never broke down under pressure. He never choked when leading a major tournament.[/QUOTE]
Even by majors alone he was twice as good as any of your golfers and won as many majors as your entire country.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]Even by majors alone he was twice as good as any of your golfers and won as many majors as your entire country.[/QUOTE]

Q: What's the difference between Greg Norman and a Holden Commodore?

A: Not all Commodore's are fitted with an automatic choke.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Q: What's the difference between Greg Norman and a Holden Commodore?

A: Not all Commodore's are fitted with an automatic choke.[/QUOTE]
The version I heard was different, but an oldie but a goodie all the same.

I wonder if the Shark ever reflects on his carer and accepts that he was a choke artist. I think if he had acknowledged early on that he had choked he may have been able to deal with it and stop doing it, instead of spending his career trying to deny something which was as plain as the nose on his face. The first step in fixing a problem is accepting you have a problem,he never did that so the problem dogged him his whole career.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]The version I heard was different, but an oldie but a goodie all the same.

I wonder if the Shark ever reflects on his carer and accepts that he was a choke artist. I think if he had acknowledged early on that he had choked he may have been able to deal with it and stop doing it, instead of spending his career trying to deny something which was as plain as the nose on his face. The first step in fixing a problem is accepting you have a problem,he never did that so the problem dogged him his whole career.[/QUOTE]

Interesting question. For a long time I was in denial that the All Blacks were chokers at RWC but the 2007 result forced me to admit that we had choked our tits off. How else do you explain a team that had cleaned up everything in the previous 3 years losing to a team they had man shamed by 40 points in all their previous recent encounters?

I am hoping that the acceptance of this fact will help us get the monkey off our back in this years RWC on home turf. :p

Guys this is getting better every week-these kids battlinng it out every week, and tiger wood is afraid to tee it up. Priceless!

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Interesting question. For a long time I was in denial that the All Blacks were chokers at RWC but the 2007 result forced me to admit that we had choked our tits off. How else do you explain a team that had cleaned up everything in the previous 3 years losing to a team they had man shamed by 40 points in all their previous recent encounters?

I am hoping that the acceptance of this fact will help us get the monkey off our back in this years RWC on home turf. :p[/QUOTE]
I think choking can be directly linked to desire and expectation. The All Balcks, like the Shark at Augusta, were clearly streets ahead of the field leading in to the RWCs, and as such there was huge expectation (from themselves and their fans) to win it. Add that to the fact that they need to win it to vindicate their status as the best rugby team in the world, and you've got a giant pressure cooker. The Shark wanted to win the US Masters too much, and everyone expected him to win many green jackets. You could see the burden on his shoulders come Sundays when he was in contention. Everyone can have the odd off day, but Norman had too many on Sunday at majors, like the All Blacks have had too many bad days in semi finals of the RWC for a team as good as them. Was 1995 the last time you guys even made the final?

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]I think choking can be directly linked to desire and expectation. The All Balcks, like the Shark at Augusta, were clearly streets ahead of the field leading in to the RWCs, and as such there was huge expectation (from themselves and their fans) to win it. Add that to the fact that they need to win it to vindicate their status as the best rugby team in the world, and you've got a giant pressure cooker. The Shark wanted to win the US Masters too much, and everyone expected him to win many green jackets. You could see the burden on his shoulders come Sundays when he was in contention. Everyone can have the odd off day, but Norman had too many on Sunday at majors, like the All Blacks have had too many bad days in semi finals of the RWC for a team as good as them. [B]Was 1995 the last time you guys even made the final?[/B][/QUOTE]

Yep!

To be fair in 1991 the loss in the semi was a fair and correct result as the Aussies were the better team. In 1999 we were a weak, flaky team with a soft underbelly but still should have beaten the French. In 2003 I think we got a week ahead of ourselves vs a very focused and determined Aussie side. We were already focusing on a final against England.

In 2007 we lost to the French AGAIN this time in the Quarter finals FFS! That was the biggest choke of all.

[QUOTE=huskyhater]Guys this is getting better every week-these kids battlinng it out every week, and tiger wood is afraid to tee it up. Priceless![/QUOTE]
He has lost his ability to intimidate because he can't compete at the highest level with regularity. Last week's tournament at Hilton Head, he's never played in it. What? Is it because its in South Carolina and the Politically Correct have issued a decree that, due to its history and slavish resistance to many things currently PC, the Heritage is not worthy of a star of colour's attention? Is this why the bleak outlook for finding new corporate sponsorship so that the tournament may be held next year? Are the major corporations scared to pony up? Or has TW skipped the event because the little lowlands track is a mean and nasty Dye design that only crafty little short knockers can negotiate in less than 67 or 70 strokes? They should hold the damn U.S. Open there. The only mods to the course would be maybe another notch up on the old Stimp and another inch for the rough. It would be about 100+ degrees with matching humidity. That would separate the men from the boys. And it would force Eldrick to come play on his quest to become Jack #2.

good points, but tigger will NEVER, EVER be the next Jack. Jack has more class in his little finger than wood will ever have in his whole life. 19-14.....and it'll stay there, even God Knows..............

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]Not necessarily, he's new. Some people need a little encouragement.

I just don't want to go the rest of my life not knowing if it would have made the difference.[/QUOTE]

Ya STILL got that b()ner for me? RELAX...............NOT your type, but I admire you making a stand for yourself and your lifestyle....KUDO's to you! Don't EVER feel bad about your preferences! Good luck........

[QUOTE=huskyhater]Ya STILL got that b()ner for me? RELAX...............NOT your type, but I admire you making a stand for yourself and your lifestyle....KUDO's to you! Don't EVER feel bad about your preferences! Good luck........[/QUOTE]

I don't like how you show such disrespect to the man who created your personal blog.

We here at GR can giveth, and we can taketh away. With a word, this entire thread will be deleted.

Do you doubt me Husky?

Show some respect to your superiors here.

I expect an apology from you soon. If not, this thread gets deleted... So you take your mid-fifties ass up top, and apologize to Lorenzo. If Lorenzo does not receive an apology, this thread disappears... So be it, retard.

What kind of State sponsored government worker rat ass retard replies to a 3 month old comment, unless they are filled with alcohol and drugs anyways?

D!ckhead,

spank

Oh sorry didn't see who'd written it, lorens cool. As for you and the name calling.........

[QUOTE=huskyhater]Oh sorry didn't see who'd written it, lorens cool. As for you and the name calling.........[/QUOTE]

I accept your apology. As for the backhanded "As for you and the name calling....." I will address this disrespect another time...

I thank you for the humility you have shown to apologize, as well.

Your penance is 50 pushups.

You can just do 10 a day for the next five days... your body will thank you for it; if you cannot do 10 all at once do 3, 3, 4, each day...

You will doing a hundred a day soon.

Here is your inspiration huskyhater, --> He seems gay because at 3:16 I was expecting a midget on a unicycle to ride up and suck him off...

I digress. As many may know, I disagree with the dude that pushups are the best... I believe deadlifts are best, but doing both deadlifts and pushups? you can't go wrong -->

<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/S990kHLMVFg?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/S990kHLMVFg?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>

This one is better -->

<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nQAh7m4xsMo?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nQAh7m4xsMo?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>



I jacked up my rotator cuffs doing 'heavy' military presses behind the ears, when I was in my 20's; 140lbs x 10 reps...

I also remember doing 'skull crushers" with 125lbs x 8 reps. You press the weight up like a bench press, then fold your arms back to touch your forehead to work your triceps...

I remember telling my trainer that my elbows were hurting, and the wise old man said, "then stop doing them." I couldn't understand that... I got older and learned that is a stupid exercise. My trainer hated them, but young people are stupid in a lot of ways.

Rambling... spank

Full body exercises are natural and the deadlift is the best, in my honest opinion.

[QUOTE=spanqdoggie]I accept your apology. As for the backhanded "As for you and the name calling....." I will address this disrespect another time...

I thank you for the humility you have shown to apologize, as well.

Your penance is 50 pushups.

You can just do 10 a day for the next five days... your body will thank you for it; if you cannot do 10 all at once do 3, 3, 4, each day...

You will doing a hundred a day soon.

Here is your inspiration huskyhater, --> He seems gay because at 3:16 I was expecting a midget on a unicycle to ride up and suck him off...

I digress. As many may know, I disagree with the dude that pushups are the best... I believe deadlifts are best, but doing both deadlifts and pushups? you can't go wrong -->

<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/S990kHLMVFg?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/S990kHLMVFg?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>

This one is better -->

<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nQAh7m4xsMo?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nQAh7m4xsMo?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>



I jacked up my rotator cuffs doing 'heavy' military presses behind the ears, when I was in my 20's; 140lbs x 10 reps...

I also remember doing 'skull crushers" with 125lbs x 8 reps. You press the weight up like a bench press, then fold your arms back to touch your forehead to work your triceps...

I remember telling my trainer that my elbows were hurting, and the wise old man said, "then stop doing them." I couldn't understand that... I got older and learned that is a stupid exercise. My trainer hated them, but young people are stupid in a lot of ways.

Rambling... spank

[B]Full body exercises are natural and the deadlift is the best, in my honest opinion[/B].[/QUOTE]
I like compound exercises too. I've been getting back into (light) training too, and have been trying to do some compound exercises which will increase my upper body strength. IMO the best strength exercise you can do is pull ups, they work the back, arms, shoulders and abs. I'm struggling after being out for so long, but can now do sets of 3 pull ups. When I say pull ups I mean all the way down and all the way up so your shoulders are level with the bar. It really increases your forearm and grip strength doing it that way, and forearm and grip strength is what real strength is about. You can judge a persons true strength on the strength of their hands and grip. Another great exercise for grip strength is throwing a towel over a chin up bar and taking yur body weight whilst gripping the towel. It's a killer exercise for weak arsed wussys like me.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]I like compound exercises too. I've been getting back into (light) training too, and have been trying to do some compound exercises which will increase my upper body strength. [B]IMO the best strength exercise you can do is pull ups[/B], they work the back, arms, shoulders and abs. I'm struggling after being out for so long, but can now do sets of 3 pull ups. When I say pull ups I mean all the way down and all the way up so your shoulders are level with the bar. It really increases your forearm and grip strength doing it that way, and forearm and grip strength is what real strength is about. You can judge a persons true strength on the strength of their hands and grip. Another great exercise for grip strength is throwing a towel over a chin up bar and taking yur body weight whilst gripping the towel. It's a killer exercise for weak arsed wussys like me.[/QUOTE]

When I was a young fella I was very good at these. Whilst working in a Supermarket packing shelves the Storeman challenged me to a chin up competition. He had a chin up bar setup in the store and he bet that whatever I could do he would triple it! :D I accepted this challenge and pulled 21 chinups. He then managed 17 - LOL. I'm sure if I had only done 6 he would have eeked out an 18th chinup to win the bet but 63 chinups was clearly beyond him. :D

These days I would be lucky to do 3. :(

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]When I was a young fella I was very good at these. Whilst working in a Supermarket packing shelves the Storeman challenged me to a chin up competition. He had a chin up bar setup in the store and he bet that whatever I could do he would triple it! :D I accepted this challenge and pulled 21 chinups. He then managed 17 - LOL. I'm sure if I had only done 6 he would have eeked out an 18th chinup to win the bet but 63 chinups was clearly beyond him. :D

These days I would be lucky to do 3. :([/QUOTE]
21 chin ups is impressive no matter what age or weight the person. Even when I was whip thin and training hard (for me) in my early 20s the most I can ever remember doing was about 11 or 12, and even then they probably weren't proper pullups all the way up over the bar. I can do 40 or 50 push ups but chin ups are absolute mother fukkas. That guy made a stupid bet.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]When I was a young fella I was very good at these. Whilst working in a Supermarket packing shelves the Storeman challenged me to a chin up competition. He had a chin up bar setup in the store and he bet that whatever I could do he would triple it! :D I accepted this challenge and pulled 21 chinups. He then managed 17 - LOL. I'm sure if I had only done 6 he would have eeked out an 18th chinup to win the bet but 63 chinups was clearly beyond him. :D

These days I would be lucky to do 3. :([/QUOTE]
21 is a beastly number. I could always bang out pull ups better than most, and I never cracked the 20 barrier.

[QUOTE=The Purist]21 is a beastly number. I could always bang out pull ups better than most, and I never cracked the 20 barrier.[/QUOTE]
You mean to tell me you can not do 20 fukking pull ups? You gotta be shittin me Purist. You are a worthless piece of shitt Purist, get outta my face!

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]You can not do 20 fukking pull ups? You gotta be shittin me Purist. You are a worthless piece of shitt Purist, get outta my face![/QUOTE]
No need to be upset with natural athletes like Kiwi and myself. I'm not sure why I was so good at pull ups. It could have been the ultra low body fat content or the large biceps.

[QUOTE=The Purist]No need to be upset with natural athletes like Kiwi and myself. I'm not sure why I was so good at pull ups. It could have been the ultra low body fat content or the large biceps.[/QUOTE]
Biceps do a lot of the lifting, but the key to pull ups is strong forearms, wrists and grip. The grip will give out before the arms and back. Your light weight would have been a major factor. I'm stronger now than I was when I was pushing 11 pushups, but these days I'm pulling up close on 100kg compared to 75 or so back then.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]Biceps do a lot of the lifting, but the key to pull ups is strong forearms, wrists and grip. The grip will give out before the arms and back. Your light weight would have been a major factor. I'm stronger now than I was when I was pushing 11 pushups, but these days I'm pulling up close on 100kg compared to 75 or so back then.[/QUOTE]
You are one big dude NAH. I like to rag on vegans, but the truth is most vegans maintain a healthy weight. You should really add some cardio work to your daily routine. I think the average runner burns like 100 calories a mile, and you would possibly burn much more considering you would be running with essentially a 55lb sack of sand on your shoulders. I would prescribe working up to 10-20 miles a week.

[QUOTE=The Purist]You are one big dude NAH. I like to rag on vegans, but the truth is most vegans maintain a healthy weight. You should really add some cardio work to your daily routine. I think the average runner burns like 100 calories a mile, and you would possibly burn much more considering you would be running with essentially a 55lb sack of sand on your shoulders. I would prescribe working up to 10-20 miles a week.[/QUOTE]

I am about 10 pounds lighter than NaH as I maintain my weight around the 210 mark and have done so for the last 20 years or so. This is a good weight for a guy who stands at 6' 4" like I do. How big are you, Purist?

[QUOTE=SoonerBS]I am about 10 pounds lighter than NaH as I maintain my weight around the 210 mark and have done so for the last 20 years or so. This is a good weight for a guy who stands at 6' 4" like I do. How big are you, Purist?[/QUOTE]

You're in pretty decent shape. A good BMI weight is between 18 & 25. You are just barely into the overweight category 25-30, and well under the obese range of 30+.

BMI = ((mass in lbs)*703) / (height in inches)^2

Sooner = BMI of 25.6

I'm 5'11" and up until March I was 185. I was pretty much in the same ball park as you at a 25.7 BMI. I have recently dropped to 170 and am now at 23.7. That may not sound like a lot, but I feel like I have a ton more energy at this weight.

[quote=Not a hacker]You mean to tell me you can not do 20 fukking pull ups? You gotta be shittin me Purist. You are a worthless piece of shitt Purist, get outta my face![/quote]

Purist, I won't come out and say you are full of BS because there are always exceptions. I have never seen anyone do more than 10 true pull ups. A true pull up is with your hands facing forward on the bar (instead of reverse with palms facing you) and you pull all the way up so that your chin is above the bar and you do not swing your hips or legs at all. I do not believe that anyone could do 20 pull ups unless they weighed about 115 pounds.

NAH, it has nothing to do with the grip. It has everything to do with shoulder and upper back strength and being very light, yet very strong.

Pull ups are kind of like arm wrestling strength. There was a guy I knew in college who never lifted weights but he could not be beaten in arm wrestling. That's just natural strength.

[QUOTE=spanqdoggie]I accept your apology. As for the backhanded "As for you and the name calling....." I will address this disrespect another time...

I thank you for the humility you have shown to apologize, as well.

Your penance is 50 pushups.

You can just do 10 a day for the next five days... your body will thank you for it; if you cannot do 10 all at once do 3, 3, 4, each day...

You will doing a hundred a day soon.

Here is your inspiration huskyhater, --> He seems gay because at 3:16 I was expecting a midget on a unicycle to ride up and suck him off...

I digress. As many may know, I disagree with the dude that pushups are the best... I believe deadlifts are best, but doing both deadlifts and pushups? you can't go wrong -->

<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/S990kHLMVFg?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/S990kHLMVFg?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>

This one is better -->

<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nQAh7m4xsMo?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nQAh7m4xsMo?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>



I jacked up my rotator cuffs doing 'heavy' military presses behind the ears, when I was in my 20's; 140lbs x 10 reps...

I also remember doing 'skull crushers" with 125lbs x 8 reps. You press the weight up like a bench press, then fold your arms back to touch your forehead to work your triceps...

I remember telling my trainer that my elbows were hurting, and the wise old man said, "then stop doing them." I couldn't understand that... I got older and learned that is a stupid exercise. My trainer hated them, but young people are stupid in a lot of ways.

Rambling... spank

Full body exercises are natural and the deadlift is the best, in my honest opinion.[/QUOTE]

Yah, that was gay. Here, this version of push-ups using furniture slides might help...

<object width="480" height="390"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/XzhrM_vPI5I?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/XzhrM_vPI5I?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="480" height="390" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>

[QUOTE=famousdavis]Purist, I won't come out and say you are full of BS because there are always exceptions. I have never seen anyone do more than 10 true pull ups. A true pull up is with your hands facing forward on the bar (instead of reverse with palms facing you) and you pull all the way up so that your chin is above the bar and you do not swing your hips or legs at all. I do not believe that anyone could do 20 pull ups unless they weighed about 115 pounds.

[B]NAH, it has nothing to do with the grip. It has everything to do with shoulder and upper back strength and being very light, yet very strong.[/B]

Pull ups are kind of like arm wrestling strength. There was a guy I knew in college who never lifted weights but he could not be beaten in arm wrestling. That's just natural strength.[/QUOTE]

NaH was correct in what he was implying, but you missed it -- if your grip is weak, it will play out before your bigger muscles do, thus causing you to quit before you reach your full production.

I agree with your definition of what a "true" pullup is . . . . . . .

Just for the record you are all f*cking gay! Pull this ya bunch of fags! God Bless all who play Ping.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]Purist, I won't come out and say you are full of BS because there are always exceptions. I have never seen anyone do more than 10 true pull ups. A true pull up is with your hands facing forward on the bar (instead of reverse with palms facing you) and you pull all the way up so that your chin is above the bar and you do not swing your hips or legs at all. I do not believe that anyone could do 20 pull ups unless they weighed about 115 pounds.

NAH, it has nothing to do with the grip. It has everything to do with shoulder and upper back strength and being very light, yet very strong.

Pull ups are kind of like arm wrestling strength. There was a guy I knew in college who never lifted weights but he could not be beaten in arm wrestling. That's just natural strength.[/QUOTE]

Kipping, a pull up when you use your hips, legs, chest shoulder, etc, is a better pull up then the dead hang style you suggest. It's a better demonstration of full body power and functional movement and not just arm and back strength. The style of pull up you are describing is rarely used outside of body building meat heads.

[QUOTE=spanqdoggie]I accept your apology. As for the backhanded "As for you and the name calling....." I will address this disrespect another time...

I thank you for the humility you have shown to apologize, as well.

Your penance is 50 pushups.

You can just do 10 a day for the next five days... your body will thank you for it; if you cannot do 10 all at once do 3, 3, 4, each day...

You will doing a hundred a day soon.

Here is your inspiration huskyhater, --> He seems gay because at 3:16 I was expecting a midget on a unicycle to ride up and suck him off...

I digress. As many may know, I disagree with the dude that pushups are the best... I believe deadlifts are best, but doing both deadlifts and pushups? you can't go wrong -->

<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/S990kHLMVFg?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/S990kHLMVFg?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>

This one is better -->

<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nQAh7m4xsMo?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nQAh7m4xsMo?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>



I jacked up my rotator cuffs doing 'heavy' military presses behind the ears, when I was in my 20's; 140lbs x 10 reps...

I also remember doing 'skull crushers" with 125lbs x 8 reps. You press the weight up like a bench press, then fold your arms back to touch your forehead to work your triceps...

I remember telling my trainer that my elbows were hurting, and the wise old man said, "then stop doing them." I couldn't understand that... I got older and learned that is a stupid exercise. My trainer hated them, but young people are stupid in a lot of ways.

Rambling... spank

Full body exercises are natural and the deadlift is the best, in my honest opinion.[/QUOTE]
I used to do upside down pushups-feet aainst the wall, standing on my head plus finger tip pushups but my left wrist has gotten bad and I'm 'healing' right now. Left rotator was bothering me a few years back and Doc told me to change soloflex workout. Damn getting over 50 kinda sucks! I'm 5'6" 185.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]Purist, I won't come out and say you are full of BS because there are always exceptions. I have never seen anyone do more than 10 true pull ups. A true pull up is with your hands facing forward on the bar (instead of reverse with palms facing you) and you pull all the way up so that your chin is above the bar and you do not swing your hips or legs at all. I do not believe that anyone could do 20 pull ups unless they weighed about 115 pounds.

NAH, it has nothing to do with the grip. It has everything to do with shoulder and upper back strength and being very light, yet very strong.

Pull ups are kind of like arm wrestling strength. There was a guy I knew in college who never lifted weights but he could not be beaten in arm wrestling. That's just natural strength.[/QUOTE]
I can still do 15+ with the underhand curl method. The other method is definitely harder...I could probably only do 10-12 of those.

[quote=The Purist]I can still do 15+ with the underhand curl method. The other method is definitely harder...I could probably only do 10-12 of those.[/quote]

The underhand method is much easier than overhand. I would be very surprised if you could do 12 of those with your chin all the way up past the bar. I have never seen any adult do that many. Kids in 6th and 7th grade can sometimes do up to 10 but it's extremeley rare to see more than that. The problem is that you are depending on very small muscles to do an actual pull up. Forearm and a very small part of the shoulder muscle are doing all of the work. That's why a big muscular guy can only do about 5 of them...he weighs too much.

[IMG]http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x1829714/two_gay_men_20-25_years_doing_wellness_exercises_010210bl.jpg[/IMG]

Here is a few exercises for you guys. They could be right up your alley.

[QUOTE=The Purist]You are one big dude NAH. I like to rag on vegans, but the truth is most vegans maintain a healthy weight. You should really add some cardio work to your daily routine. I think the average runner burns like 100 calories a mile, and you would possibly burn much more considering you would be running with essentially a 55lb sack of sand on your shoulders. I would prescribe working up to 10-20 miles a week.[/QUOTE]
I am not always 100kg, I usually fluctuate between 94-98. I'm not a big dude at all. For my height 6"1.5 I am only a medium build. I do carry a little too much weight around the mid section. I could drop 5kg from around the waste without looking any smaller overall. I have shot knees s I can't do any running. I walk the golf course and go for a walk during my lunch break (if I'm not in the gym).

[quote=Not a hacker]I am not always 100kg, I usually fluctuate between 94-98. I'm not a big dude at all. For my height 6"1.5 I am only a medium build. I do carry a little too much weight around the mid section. I could drop 5kg from around the waste without looking any smaller overall. I have shot knees s I can't do any running. I walk the golf course and go for a walk during my lunch break (if I'm not in the gym).[/quote]

Most of the people on this forum are Americans. I, as well as the rest of us, would appreciate it if you could speak in pounds, inches, etc. so that we can all relate. Thanks...chopper.

[QUOTE=Tee'd Off][IMG]http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x1829714/two_gay_men_20-25_years_doing_wellness_exercises_010210bl.jpg[/IMG]

Here is a few exercises for you guys. They could be right up your alley.[/QUOTE]
If all these guys can do all these impossible exercises, why do they have problems breaking 100, 90, 80 whatever?

[QUOTE=famousdavis]Purist, I won't come out and say you are full of BS because there are always exceptions. I have never seen anyone do more than 10 true pull ups. A true pull up is with your hands facing forward on the bar (instead of reverse with palms facing you) and you pull all the way up so that your chin is above the bar and you do not swing your hips or legs at all. I do not believe that anyone could do 20 pull ups unless they weighed about 115 pounds.

[B]NAH, it has nothing to do with the grip. It has everything to do with shoulder and upper back strength and being very light, yet very strong.

Pull ups are kind of like arm wrestling strength. There was a guy I knew in college who never lifted weights but he could not be beaten in arm wrestling. That's just natural strength[/B].[/QUOTE]
FD, strength has everything ot do with grp strength. Of course the bigger muscles are going to be stronger, so logically your strength is limited to the strength of your weakest part. And for pull ups, all your weight is connected to the bar through your grip. It may be the shoulders and upper back which does the lifting, butit's the grip which allows you to hold all your weight to the bar. Forearm strength is also very important for the same reasons, all your weight goes through your forearms to the bigger muscles. I'dbet your naturally strong friend had superstrong grip strength. I knew a guy back in the day who I would say is the strongest guy I've ever met. He could lift me off the ground with one hand, and almost crushed you in muck around wrestling matches without trying, he just didn't know how strong he was. Never saw him arm wrestle, but I would be surprised if anyone could beat him. I saw this guy pull nails out of walls with his fingers. He was genetically strong in the hands. There is an old time wrestler called Danny Hodge, whoi is reputed to have the strongest grip ever. Look him up and see how small he was, bt how strong he was cause of his grip strength. When you talk real strength, you are talking hand strength.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]Most of the people on this forum are Americans. I, as well as the rest of us, would appreciate it if you could speak in pounds, inches, etc. so that we can all relate. Thanks...chopper.[/QUOTE]
FD's right NAH. A while back the US planned to go metric. Even though practically everyone else in the world was able to do it, the level of "intelligence" here required those plans to be abandoned permanently. Unless Dancing With The Stars, American Idol and McDonalds go metric, nothing will change. Apparently fat, stupid and metric don't go together.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]FD's right NAH. A while back the US planned to go metric. Even though practically everyone else in the world was able to do it, the level of "intelligence" here required those plans to be abandoned permanently. Unless Dancing With The Stars, American Idol and McDonalds go metric, nothing will change. Apparently fat, stupid and metric don't go together.[/QUOTE]

Oregon DOT has made the switch twice. We have designed and built many roads using metric designs and maps. This was mandated by the Fed's but other states refused to progress and the Fed's lifted the requirement. We're now back to feet and tenths and hundredths of a feet. Once you get used to it it's no big deal. The hardest problem we faced was the suppliers still produced inch units. For example Pipe comes in 3" increments. So we used nominal units. A 12" pipe was 300mm not 305mm. Other than these soft conversions it was no big deal.

[QUOTE=The Purist]You are one big dude NAH. I like to rag on vegans, but the truth is most vegans maintain a healthy weight. You should really add some cardio work to your daily routine. I think the average runner burns like 100 calories a mile, and you would possibly burn much more considering you would be running with essentially a 55lb sack of sand on your shoulders. I would prescribe working up to 10-20 miles a week.[/QUOTE]

Anybody ever heard of the Tabata Protocol? Google it but it's basically a 2:1 ratio of full out work to rest. The most widely used is 20 seconds of work with a 10 second rest for 6 to 8 reps. The work is as hard as you can for the entire duration and should be full body exercises like sprints, jumping rope, burpees, mountain climbers, kettlebell swings, etc. At the end of 8 reps you should be spitting and tired. Anyway the studies have shown 4 minutes in this fashion is better than 20 minutes of moderate aerobic activity.

[QUOTE=famousdavis]Most of the people on this forum are Americans. I, as well as the rest of us, would appreciate it if you could speak in pounds, inches, etc. so that we can all relate. Thanks...chopper.[/QUOTE]
FD's right NAH. A while back the US planned to go metric. Even though practically everyone else in the world was able to do it, the level of "intelligence" here required those plans to be abandoned permanently. Unless Dancing With The Stars, American Idol and McDonalds go metric, nothing will change. Apparently fat, stupid and metric don't go together.

[QUOTE=poe4soul]Anybody ever heard of the Tabata Protocol? Google it but it's basically a 2:1 ratio of full out work to rest. The most widely used is 20 seconds of work with a 10 second rest for 6 to 8 reps. The work is as hard as you can for the entire duration and should be full body exercises like sprints, jumping rope, burpees, mountain climbers, kettlebell swings, etc. At the end of 8 reps you should be spitting and tired. Anyway the studies have shown 4 minutes in this fashion is better than 20 minutes of moderate aerobic activity.[/QUOTE]
Is that anything like the "insanity" workouts that are getting all the hype right now? Its supposed to make p90x feel easy by comparison.

[QUOTE=mongrel]If all these guys can do all these impossible exercises, why do they have problems breaking 100, 90, 80 whatever?[/QUOTE]

The same reason a fat slob like John Daly can shoot 68 but I bet he couldn't do 10 chin ups.

Because .....the ability to do these exercises and play golf are totally unrelated.

[quote=lorenzoinoc]FD's right NAH. A while back the US planned to go metric. Even though practically everyone else in the world was able to do it, the level of "intelligence" here required those plans to be abandoned permanently. Unless Dancing With The Stars, American Idol and McDonalds go metric, nothing will change. Apparently fat, stupid and metric don't go together.[/quote]

Zo is right NAH.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]FD's right NAH. A while back the US planned to go metric. Even though practically everyone else in the world was able to do it, the level of "intelligence" here required those plans to be abandoned permanently. Unless Dancing With The Stars, American Idol and McDonalds go metric, nothing will change. Apparently fat, stupid and metric don't go together.[/QUOTE]


Doesn't surprise me one bit. Any system of measure which is universal and base 10 is too fundamentally based in logic and reason to replace a system with arbitrary units of measure which make no logical sense in their relation.

At least in nations with a predominantly high social disdain for intellectualism.



FON

[QUOTE=FreakOfNature]Doesn't surprise me one bit. Any system of measure which is universal and base 10 is too fundamentally based in logic and reason to replace a system with arbitrary units of measure which make no logical sense in their relation.

At least in nations with a predominantly high social disdain for intellectualism.



FON[/QUOTE]

And what is Canada known for (Big Beautiful Women) and why should we follow instead of lead. Individuallity is something to strive for. FON just burn another one down it will all make more sense.

G H D

[QUOTE=Globalhelpdesk]And what is Canada known for (Big Beautiful Women) and why should we follow instead of lead. Individuallity is something to strive for. [B]FON just burn another one down it will all make more sense[/B].

G H D[/QUOTE]


SUUUURRE it will... :rolleyes:

Shouldn't you be out in the backyard shooting cans off a fence with your Winchester while you wait for the tornado to flatten your trailer park? :D

BTW, I'm not opposed to individuality. There aren't very many people brave enough to stand out by running naked across busy freeways. Don't let traffic moving at 100km/h (hehe, metric for 60mph) stand in the way of expressing yourself as an individual. Do it, you non-conformist. :p

OK, seriously though, metric makes science and mathematics more intuitive and easier for people to learn and utilize in everyday life. The Imperial unit based Customary system of measure used in the US is as outdated as a carton of milk sold in 1960.



FON

[QUOTE=The Purist]Is that anything like the "insanity" workouts that are getting all the hype right now? Its supposed to make p90x feel easy by comparison.[/QUOTE]

I don't think so. Do a quick search for it. The concept is basic. Try it once or twice a week in your work outs. Especially if you don't have the time for your normal run. I don't run or bike in the winter so i try to get aerobic workouts with my lifting. This is a simple but effective way to achieve both.

[QUOTE=FreakOfNature]SUUUURRE it will... :rolleyes:

Shouldn't you be out in the backyard shooting cans off a fence with your Winchester while you wait for the tornado to flatten your trailer park? :D

BTW, I'm not opposed to individuality. There aren't very many people brave enough to stand out by running naked across busy freeways. Don't let traffic moving at 100km/h (hehe, metric for 60mph) stand in the way of expressing yourself as an individual. Do it, you non-conformist. :p

OK, seriously though, metric makes science and mathematics more intuitive and easier for people to learn and utilize in everyday life. The Imperial unit based Customary system of measure used in the US is as outdated as a carton of milk sold in 1960.



FON[/QUOTE]

All civil work in the is is done using base 100 with the unit being feet. Well except acres. But there's still conversions in all science like speed of light. So?

[QUOTE=poe4soul]All civil work in the is is done using base 100 with the unit being feet. Well except acres. But there's still conversions in all science like speed of light. So?[/QUOTE]


So with a base 10 system you have nothing to memorize.

You have /32, /16, /8, /4, /2 increments of inches. The variation of the base is not consistent with scale whatsoever - for example 3/4" is smaller than 25/32" which is smaller than 7/8" - the unnecessary fractions make even minute differences in measurements a task of conversion, whereas in metric you just add or subtract 1mm, since the mm is the appropriate unit for the scale being measured.

You have 12 inches in a foot, 3 feet to a yard, but a mile is 5280 [B]feet[/B], etc... does it not quickly become apparent how much more WORK it is to implement a scale which follows such arbitrary incrementation as opposed to units on a base of 10 (1m = 10dm = 100cm = 1000mm)? Same thing with volume. Same thing with mass. It eliminates so much of the math and work just using metric. Less calculations to solve a problem. It is quite simply far more efficient and inherently superior as a tool, which is what mathematics really is - a tool for solving problems.



FON

[QUOTE=FreakOfNature]So with a base 10 system you have nothing to memorize.

You have /32, /16, /8, /4, /2 increments of inches. The variation of the base is not consistent with scale whatsoever - for example 3/4" is smaller than 25/32" which is smaller than 7/8" - the unnecessary fractions make even minute differences in measurements a task of conversion, whereas in metric you just add or subtract 1mm, since the mm is the appropriate unit for the scale being measured.

You have 12 inches in a foot, 3 feet to a yard, but a mile is 5280 [B]feet[/B], etc... does it not quickly become apparent how much more WORK it is to implement a scale which follows such arbitrary incrementation as opposed to units on a base of 10 (1m = 10dm = 100cm = 1000mm)? Same thing with volume. Same thing with mass. It eliminates so much of the math and work just using metric. Less calculations to solve a problem. It is quite simply far more efficient and inherently superior as a tool, which is what mathematics really is - a tool for solving problems.



FON[/QUOTE]
We agree but you don't have to use a meter as the base. Civil engineers use the foot. So distances are 1.5 not 1'-6" or 18". We don't use a mile. You don't have to get stuck on using the meter as the base. Many pipes are made in.inches just like wood is cut to inches. Isn't this the same in much of Canada? Another similarity is the beer base unit of a six pack. You have a one-two we have a twelve pack or half case or half rack. Then there's the two-four. So really we have much in common.

I am an old carpenter and have used both systems. Australia went metric some time ago. As far as using mathamatics in my work i am conversant in both languages. Metric is far surerior to use.

Come on guys. Isn't it obvious? The real reason that Americans haven't converted to metric is that saying your driving average is 280 sounds way more impressive than saying your driving average is 255.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Come on guys. Isn't it obvious? The real reason that Americans haven't converted to metric is that saying your driving average is 280 sounds way more impressive than saying your driving average is 255.[/QUOTE]
You are a very smart man Kiwi. You have cut through to the real reason for this state of affairs.

[quote=Kiwi Player]Come on guys. Isn't it obvious? The real reason that Americans haven't converted to metric is that saying your driving average is 280 sounds way more impressive than saying your driving average is 255.[/quote]

I'm not sure I agree with this. For it to be the case, Americans would have to know that 280 is greater than 255. Unless they've been weighing themselves recently they'd have no way of knowing this.

[QUOTE=FreakOfNature]Doesn't surprise me one bit. Any system of measure which is universal and base 10 is too fundamentally based in logic and reason to replace a system with arbitrary units of measure which make no[B] logical sense[/B] in their relation.

At least in nations with a predominantly high social disdain for intellectualism.



FON[/QUOTE]


Define "logical sense." Let me define it as well -- logical sense to me is something I have learned and understand. "No logical sense" is something I do not understand nor give a flying phuck to understand whenever I am comfortable in what I DO know.

Carry on in trying to convince me that I need to learn the metric system, after growing up with the US system all my life, AND especially since my HTC Inspire phone has an app on it that calculates and converts all standards of measurements.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]Come on guys. Isn't it obvious? The real reason that Americans haven't converted to metric is that saying your driving average is 280 sounds way more impressive than saying your driving average is 255.[/QUOTE]

I disagree. I think the real reason that the International community went metric is because saying that your dick is 20 centimeters long makes it sound more impressive than saying it is 8 inches long.

[QUOTE=poe4soul]We agree but you don't have to use a meter as the base. Civil engineers use the foot. [B]So distances are 1.5 not 1'-6" or 18"[/B]. We don't use a mile. [B]You don't have to get stuck on using the meter as the base[/B]. Many pipes are made in.inches just like wood is cut to inches. Isn't this the same in much of Canada? Another similarity is the beer base unit of a six pack. You have a one-two we have a twelve pack or half case or half rack. Then there's the two-four. So really we have much in common.[/QUOTE]

Ah. So you employ the decimal system. That's the same as metric BTW. Base 10. Metric is also based on the properties of water. 1ml of water has a mass of 1g. You can equate the volume of any container to the mass of the water required to fill it. You hardly need to make any calculations at all to know that a half-gallon (2 liters) of water has a mass of 2kg. How many fluid ounces is that?

Metric is just so much more efficient when it comes time to crunch numbers and calculate unit conversions. It simplifies the math. BTW, it's not "getting stuck" on the meter as a base, the meter is simply a product of the base 10 system. It is in no way an arbitrary unit.

I don't deny that we have a great deal in common though. Our golf courses are still marked in yards, I weigh myself in lbs, I measure my height in feet and inches, for beer we still have 6-packs, 8-packs, cases (12-packs), 15-packs, and two-fours (24 packs of bottles), or alternatively a flat (which is 24 cans). For hard liquor we have pints, quarts, 40oz'ers, 66'ers, Texas Mickeys... no fifths like you guys though. First time I heard an American say they drank a fifth I was like "WTF? What's a fifth? We don't have those.". You guys measure fuel economy in miles/gallon, whereas we measure in liters/km. It always baffled my why we inverted the units when we went metric...

But yeah, regardless of which official system of measure we use, we still have much in common in the everyday usage of our units of measure.



FON