Round Report 2011

[QUOTE=famousdavis;244836]That's true that Noshuz beat me while I game him 8 strokes. Also, let's get one thing straight, the only thing I asked Dave was if his putt was for a bogey. He called the rule on himself. I didn't have to say anything. That was an gentlemanly thing to do on Dave's part.

So, with that, I agree and will take down the trophy. I hereby challenge Noshuz to a rematch but I will not be giving strokes this time. GR matches are straight up. So, Noshuz, if you are ever down south or I'm up north we'll go out and hit 'em.[/QUOTE]

I like it...I really like it! Let the play do the talkin........

[QUOTE=Tee'd Off;244841]I like it...I really like it! Let the play do the talkin........[/QUOTE]

I think Noshuz should plan a trip down here just for this event. I went to Vegas. The least he can do is make an easy 6 hour trip to see a golfing bro and give him a chance for a rematch. To do otherwise would be below the belt. But I know Noshuz and there's no way he'd back out of a challenge like this. He's an honorable man with plenty of spare time.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;244842]I think Noshuz should plan a trip down here just for this event. I went to Vegas. The least he can do is make an easy 6 hour trip to see a golfing bro and give him a chance for a rematch. To do otherwise would be below the belt. But I know Noshuz and there's no way he'd back out of a challenge like this. [B]He's an honorable man with plenty of spare time[/B].[/QUOTE]

Most of which he spends windsurfing these days so he might not be up for a golf challenge.

GR Championship Titles may just have to become fractured, just like world boxing titles where you have multiple champions in the same division. You have been GR's most active matchplayer along with Dave and you have won your last few events so you are worthy of the title.

Noshuz is indeed an undefeated champ but it is tough to take the title off him when he is currently inactive.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;244836]That's true that Noshuz beat me while I game him 8 strokes. Also, let's get one thing straight, the only thing I asked Dave was if his putt was for a bogey. He called the rule on himself. I didn't have to say anything. That was an gentlemanly thing to do on Dave's part.

So, with that, I agree and will take down the trophy.[B][U] I hereby challenge Noshuz to a rematch but I will not be giving strokes this time. GR matches are straight up. [/U][/B] So, Noshuz, if you are ever down south or I'm up north we'll go out and hit 'em.[/QUOTE]

That is not very sporting of you old chap.
The only way to play GR matches with golfers of different abilities is to bring registered or genuine handicaps onto play.
It is pretty obvious that for any match to be a fair fight you can't play a mid single figure against an 18 cap for instance.
Who would want to win that way??
You may start being called the Kenny Perry of GR if you continue with this philosophy and try to get your wins by beating up on weak fields.

[QUOTE=oldplayer;244882]That is not very sporting of you old chap.
The only way to play GR matches with golfers of different abilities is to bring registered or genuine handicaps onto play.
It is pretty obvious that for any match to be a fair fight you can't play a mid single figure against an 18 cap for instance.
Who would want to win that way??
You may start being called the Kenny Perry of GR if you continue with this philosophy and try to get your wins by beating up on weak fields.[/QUOTE]

When I played Noshuz it was apparent that he has the ability to shoot low 80's. So, maybe you're right that I should give some strokes but 4 strokes a side is way too many. I'd be willing to give him 2 a side.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;244883]When I played Noshuz it was apparent that he has the ability to shoot low 80's. So, maybe you're right that I should give some strokes but 4 strokes a side is way too many. I'd be willing to give him 2 a side.[/QUOTE]

All handicaps have to be genuine. You can't just make one up. If a golfer is a keen player he should have an official cap. If he can't produce one he has to play without the benefit of one.

[QUOTE=oldplayer;244884]All handicaps have to be genuine. You can't just make one up. If a golfer is a keen player he should have an official cap. If he can't produce one he has to play without the benefit of one.[/QUOTE]

OP, challenging someone to a match has nothing to do with official handicaps. First of all, I don't believe that Noshuz has a handicap. I have one but I haven't posted anything to it because it's for Northern California. I believe right now I'm a 6 handicap. Noshuz told me (back then) that he shoots mid 80's. That would mean he's probably somewhere around a 10 handicap because it's determined by the average of the best 10 out of last 20 scores posted. I agree the strokes should be fair.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;244888]OP, challenging someone to a match has nothing to do with official handicaps. First of all, I don't believe that Noshuz has a handicap. I have one but I haven't posted anything to it because it's for Northern California. I believe right now I'm a 6 handicap. Noshuz told me (back then) that he shoots mid 80's. That would mean he's probably somewhere around a 10 handicap because it's determined by the average of the best 10 out of last 20 scores posted. I agree the strokes should be fair.[/QUOTE]

None of you are eligible to play in a an officially sanctioned GR match then. All so called titles are to hearby be forfited and we will start again.
Looks like the reigning champ then has to be the winner of a GR match who played that match according to the rules of golf and with an official handicap.

I think Sooner has an official cap. Perhaps he can hold the title by forfiet.

[QUOTE=oldplayer;244891]None of you are eligible to play in a an officially sanctioned GR match then. All so called titles are to hearby be forfited and we will start again.
Looks like the reigning champ then has to be the winner of a GR match who played that match according to the rules of golf and with an official handicap.

I think Sooner has an official cap. Perhaps he can hold the title by forfiet.[/QUOTE]


Nice try OP. Two real men going head to head is the only kind of match that counts. I know you're smarter than to think that you need handicaps when playing a match with no strokes. We played according to the rules of golf. Tell me where in the rules of golf does it say that players have to play by handicap in match play? I have a handicap, as I clearly stated earlier. Perhaps you should pay attention.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;244896]Nice try OP. Two real men going head to head is the only kind of match that counts. I know you're smarter than to think that you need handicaps when playing a match with no strokes. We played according to the rules of golf. Tell me where in the rules of golf does it say that players have to play by handicap in match play? I have a handicap, as I clearly stated earlier. Perhaps you should pay attention.[/QUOTE]

Well it was worth a try FD. I know you are a little touchy on who is actually GR champion.
Of course GR is for real men, head to head.

[QUOTE=oldplayer;244899]Well it was worth a try FD. I know you are a little touchy on who is actually GR champion.
Of course GR is for real men, head to head.[/QUOTE]

The GR champion is ever evolving. Who knows what it will mean in 10 years? Thanks for your support...NOT!

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;244869]Most of which he spends windsurfing these days so he might not be up for a golf challenge.

GR Championship Titles may just have to become fractured, just like world boxing titles where you have multiple champions in the same division. [B]You have been GR's most active matchplayer along with Dave and you have won your last few events so you are worthy of the title.[/B]

Noshuz is indeed an undefeated champ but it is tough to take the title off him when he is currently inactive.[/QUOTE]

Gobble, gobble, slurp, slurp.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;244888]OP, challenging someone to a match has nothing to do with official handicaps. First of all, I don't believe that Noshuz has a handicap. I have one but I haven't posted anything to it because it's for Northern California. I believe right now I'm a 6 handicap. Noshuz told me (back then) that he shoots mid 80's. That would mean he's probably somewhere around a 10 handicap because it's determined by the average of the best 10 out of last 20 scores posted. I agree the strokes should be fair.[/QUOTE]

Crap! I guess I did miss something! I hardly ever get on this thread mainly because the only golf I play these days is pitch and putt, beer drinkin' golf once a week with my buddies. Yes I'm definitely in windsurf mode although the wacky weather hasn't cooperated lately but FD if you happen to get up this way let me know! I have know idea what I would shoot right now. I would be happy to break 90. That day at Mather was NOT my normal game. Especially in the weather we faced. I usually fall apart in the rain.

[QUOTE=noshuz;244965]Crap! I guess I did miss something! I hardly ever get on this thread mainly because the only golf I play these days is pitch and putt, beer drinkin' golf once a week with my buddies. Yes I'm definitely in windsurf mode although the wacky weather hasn't cooperated lately but FD if you happen to get up this way let me know! I have know idea what I would shoot right now. I would be happy to break 90. That day at Mather was NOT my normal game. Especially in the weather we faced. I usually fall apart in the rain.[/QUOTE]

I'm in the same boat. Lucky if I get out once a week and then I never know where the ball is going to go. I'll do my best but I doubt I'd break 85. If we meet up I'd be willing to give you 2 strokes a side or if you want to go heads up we can do that too. Let me know if you're ever down South...if you dare.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;244980]I'm in the same boat. Lucky if I get out once a week and then I never know where the ball is going to go. I'll do my best but I doubt I'd break 85. If we meet up I'd be willing to give you 2 strokes a side or if you want to go heads up we can do that too. Let me know if you're ever down South...if you dare.[/QUOTE]

I'll take 2 strokes! Loser buys the beer. HA! I guess that means I'm drinking 2 beers no matter what huh? :p

[QUOTE=noshuz;244984]I'll take 2 strokes! Loser buys the beer. HA! I guess that means I'm drinking 2 beers no matter what huh? :p[/QUOTE]

Don't get all cocky just because I had to buy you a sandwich and a coke.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;244985]Don't get all cocky just because I had to buy you a sandwich and a coke.[/QUOTE]

HA! :D A guy at work just told me about Apple Mountain. Did you ever play it when you lived up this way? He said something about breakfast buffet, lunch, range balls and a cart for $65 bucks

[QUOTE=noshuz;244988]HA! :D A guy at work just told me about Apple Mountain. Did you ever play it when you lived up this way? He said something about breakfast buffet, lunch, range balls and a cart for $65 bucks[/QUOTE]

I hated that course. The first hole you hit a 4 iron off the tee and then a pitching wedge to the hole over a baranca. It's pretty to look at but you have to hit iron off a lot of the Par 4 holes and I hate courses like that. Similar to Whitney Oaks if you've played there.

thanks a lot

I had my longest hole-out for eagle on a par 4.
#6 at the SPCC is a 458 yard hole par 4 and the number 1 handicap. Crushed driver, perfect 7 iron. That eagle was sandwiched around 2 birdies, which is my best 3 hole stretch ever at 4 under.
My buddies were talking smack to our pro about how a 2 on 6 probably hasn't happened in a decade and he says it was done twice last year on the same day.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;245631]I had my longest hole-out for eagle on a par 4.
#6 at the SPCC is a 458 yard hole par 4 and the number 1 handicap. Crushed driver, perfect 7 iron. That eagle was sandwiched around 2 birdies, which is my best 3 hole stretch ever at 4 under.
My buddies were talking smack to our pro about how a 2 on 6 probably hasn't happened in a decade and he says it was done twice last year on the same day.[/QUOTE]

Congratulations, there are few things more exciting in golf than to hit a full iron swing to a green and watch the ball roll in. What was your final score on the day?

[QUOTE=SoonerBS;245639]Congratulations, there are few things more exciting in golf than to hit a full iron swing to a green and watch the ball roll in. What was your final score on the day?[/QUOTE]

Thanks, it was pretty cool to see the ball disappear. I had 3 hole outs with full swings in a two month period about 7-8 years ago and only one other prior to yesterday.
Final score was a bit disappointing. 77. I doubled 2 and 3 and finished even on the front. Doubled both par 3's on the back (one was OB) and bogeyed #17 with a 9 iron in my hand. 6 over on the par 3's for the round. WTF. Really a bad ballstriking display from 12 - 18. I think the booze had a bit to do with it because I was even more celebratory than usual after the hole out.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;245631]I had my longest hole-out for eagle on a par 4.
#6 at the SPCC is a 458 yard hole par 4 and the number 1 handicap. Crushed driver, perfect 7 iron. That eagle was sandwiched around 2 birdies, which is my best 3 hole stretch ever at 4 under.
My buddies were talking smack to our pro about how a 2 on 6 probably hasn't happened in a decade and he says it was done twice last year on the same day.[/QUOTE]

That's a great feeling when you hole out an iron, especially on a tough hole. You're hoping for par and next thing you know you've got eagle. It's really great if you're playing in a skins game.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;245655]That's a great feeling when you hole out an iron, especially on a tough hole. You're hoping for par and next thing you know you've got eagle. It's really great if you're playing in a skins game.[/QUOTE]

Even better than skins if you are winning a lot of holes. Whenever my group has 3, we play something called 9 Point Game at $1.00 a point.
It only works with a threesome, but it goes like this...
Each hole is worth 9 points.
If player A wins outright, player B comes if second, and player C comes in last it goes.
A gets 5
B gets 3
C gets 1

A first, B and C tie
A = 5
B = 2
C = 2

All tie, all get 3.

A and B tie, C comes in last
A = 4
B = 4
C = 1

The cash can pile up quickly, and it makes you play hard even if you aren't going to win. I played against a buddy of mine last year who wanted to play at $5/point and he lost over $200.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;245659]Even better than skins if you are winning a lot of holes. Whenever my group has 3, we play something called 9 Point Game at $1.00 a point.
It only works with a threesome, but it goes like this...
Each hole is worth 9 points.
If player A wins outright, player B comes if second, and player C comes in last it goes.
A gets 5
B gets 3
C gets 1

A first, B and C tie
A = 5
B = 2
C = 2

All tie, all get 3.

A and B tie, C comes in last
A = 4
B = 4
C = 1

The cash can pile up quickly, and it makes you play hard even if you aren't going to win. I played against a buddy of mine last year who wanted to play at $5/point and he lost over $200.[/QUOTE]

I've played that game many times and I believe it's the best game when you only have a threesome. $5 is too much between friends because losing $200 is a pretty hefty sum for most of us.

I used to play in a big wolf game when I was a member at a club in Dallas. We'd play fivesomes (in 4 hours or better) and we played sixes and nines. That means the wolf team (twosome) will win $9 each if they win the hole or the threesome will win $6 each if they win the hole. The kicker is that a birdie doubles the bet and the twosome could double the bet off the tee after the tee shots. If you wolf it (go alone) then it automatically doubles the bet. I saw a guy lose over $400 one time.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;245668]I've played that game many times and I believe it's the best game when you only have a threesome. $5 is too much between friends because losing $200 is a pretty hefty sum for most of us.

I used to play in a big wolf game when I was a member at a club in Dallas. We'd play fivesomes (in 4 hours or better) and we played sixes and nines. That means the wolf team (twosome) will win $9 each if they win the hole or the threesome will win $6 each if they win the hole. The kicker is that a birdie doubles the bet and the twosome could double the bet off the tee after the tee shots. If you wolf it (go alone) then it automatically doubles the bet. I saw a guy lose over $400 one time.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, the $5/point was way too much for 9 Point Game. We've done it for skins before and it usually doesn't get too bad, but if you are dead last for a hole in 9 Point, you have effectively lost $40 on a single hole. Plus, I never feel great about taking a considerable amount of money from friends. The shame in having to pay out just a little cash is motivation enough to play well, so we like to play games which cap losses around $40 or $50 for the round.

Today I experienced the best tee to green round I've had in several years. I shot 74 at Miramar Golf Course from the back tees. It measures over 6,800 yards. Since the course was long, I hit hybrid on several of my second shots and once on a Par 3. I think I hit the green every time I used my 23 or 18 degree hybrid. I figured out a flaw in my swing and how to correct it. On all shots, I'm making a mental effort to not come over the top and start my downswing more on the inside. It if wasn't for double bogey on the last I would have shot par. This sounds incredibly naive for someone who's played golf a long time but I have never consciously tried to swing from the inside before. Oh, and I made sure my body stayed even with the ball through the hitting area instead of going forward.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;247350]Today I experienced the best tee to green round I've had in several years. I shot 74 at Miramar Golf Course from the back tees. It measures over 6,800 yards. Since the course was long, I hit hybrid on several of my second shots and once on a Par 3. I think I hit the green every time I used my 23 or 18 degree hybrid. I figured out a flaw in my swing and how to correct it. On all shots, I'm making a mental effort to not come over the top and start my downswing more on the inside. It if wasn't for double bogey on the last I would have shot par. This sounds incredibly naive for someone who's played golf a long time but I have never consciously tried to swing from the inside before. Oh, and I made sure my body stayed even with the ball through the hitting area instead of going forward.[/QUOTE]

Good round FD. It's always fun to figure something our. Which irons?

Shot a terrible round today (well yesterday/Sunday).

Had two doubles and a quad...

...and still shot 82.

:D

Had a horrible two rounds in Kananaskis....but the views make up for hacking around.

[QUOTE=Riverologist;247365]Had a horrible two rounds in Kananaskis....but the views make up for hacking around.[/QUOTE]

I have to say that beats the hell out of Snow Mountain and the high desert of Vegas. Fabulous. sorry you hacked. the view deserves better. but wow.

[QUOTE=daveperkins;247366]I have to say that beats the hell out of Snow Mountain and the high desert of Vegas. Fabulous. sorry you hacked. the view deserves better. but wow.[/QUOTE]

Agree that course looks stunning. My only concern would be, any bears in those woods Riverologist? :p

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;247370]Agree that course looks stunning. My only concern would be, any bears in those woods Riverologist? :p[/QUOTE]

I played out there probably 30 times in the last decade and only a few times was there a grizzly on the course. You'll hear "bear bangers" go off in the valley trying to scare the bears off. Tons of deer and other wildlife though. It's pretty cool seeing a Doe and her babies walk out onto the fairway while you are hitting.

Most of the bears here are tagged or have a radar collar on them, once the forest ranger (we call them Wardens) was sitting on the one hole monitoring its movements, telling everyone to just be aware there was a bear in the area. It was weird....everyone in my group hit the fairway and green. No lost balls that hole. :D

I'm pretty fortunate to have some really great mountain courses like this within an hours drive. However, the weather can be very unpredictable. You can play through burning sun, rain, wind and snow all in one round.

[QUOTE=Riverologist;247374]I played out there probably 30 times in the last decade and only a few times was there a grizzly on the course. You'll hear "bear bangers" go off in the valley trying to scare the bears off. Tons of deer and other wildlife though. It's pretty cool seeing a Doe and her babies walk out onto the fairway while you are hitting.

Most of the bears here are tagged or have a radar collar on them, once the forest ranger (we call them Wardens) was sitting on the one hole monitoring its movements, telling everyone to just be aware there was a bear in the area. [B]It was weird....everyone in my group hit the fairway and green. No lost balls that hole.[/B] :D

[B]I'm pretty fortunate to have some really great mountain courses like this within an hours drive.[/B] However, the weather can be very unpredictable. You can play through burning sun, rain, wind and snow all in one round.[/QUOTE]

Where do you live River? I've been to Vancouver and visited Whistler and I played a round of golf whilst there years ago. Can't remember the name of the course but it was nothing special.

If you did hit the ball in the woods I wonder if rules Nazis like Edgey would allow a drop from the point of entry (like a lateral hazard) rather than having to venture into the woods to find your ball or go back to the tee. :D

That would be my suggestion in such exceptional circumstances.

I guess it is similar to hitting your golf ball into alligator infested ponds in Florida. You DON'T try and retrieve your ball.

If I played a course like this one I think that I'd want a semi automatic rifle as the 15th club in the bag.

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[QUOTE=Riverologist;247365]Had a horrible two rounds in Kananaskis....but the views make up for hacking around.[/QUOTE]

That is a cool looking course, no doubt . . . . .

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;247375]Where do you live River? I've been to Vancouver and visited Whistler and I played a round of golf whilst there years ago. Can't remember the name of the course but it was nothing special.

If you did hit the ball in the woods I wonder if rules Nazis like Edgey would allow a drop from the point of entry (like a lateral hazard) rather than having to venture into the woods to find your ball or go back to the tee. :D

That would be my suggestion in such exceptional circumstances.

I guess it is similar to hitting your golf ball into alligator infested ponds in Florida. You DON'T try and retrieve your ball.

If I played a course like this one I think that I'd want a semi automatic rifle as the 15th club in the bag.

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I live in Calgary...an hour west of the Rocky Mountains.
You don't need a gun.....you just need to be at least the 3rd fastest runner in your foursome.

[QUOTE=poe4soul;247357]Good round FD. It's always fun to figure something our. Which irons?[/QUOTE]

I used the Taylormade Tour burner irons.

River, the backdrop to that course looks amazing. The exact opposite of Paiute.

The Club Championship started this weekend at the SPCC. I qualified as the 7th of 8 spots. I just smoked some fool 7 and 6. I played like garbage in the qualifier and benefited from 2 people dropping out. I also had 2 things happen which have never happened to me before.
I hit someone else's ball. 2 stroke penalty.
I hit a shot into a bunker that went directly into a wasp hole at the face of the bunker. We all saw my ball splash into the trap from 150 yards away and couldn't find it. One of the guys I'm playing with digs with his wedge and finds my ball 8 inches down a hole.
The guy I beat in match play seriously has issues with competitive match play. He had the second best qualifying score then got waxed when it counted. Feels good. I beat him 7 and 5 last year in a different event.
I think I need to play more to play well. Everytime I get to play a couple days a week (almost never), I play great. Off to the semi-finals next weekend, where I'll be playing a scratch golfer. If I win, it's another round that day, then a 36 hole final on Sunday. Not that I'm getting ahead of myself.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;247350] Oh, and I made sure my body stayed even with the ball through the hitting area instead of going forward.[/QUOTE]

This is exactly what I am working on. Especially w driver.
Good round FD.

Shot 38 on the front 9 at McCleery last night. My buddy and I played for free (thanks Jordan!) and as I'd just been out earlier that day watching the pros, I was hitting it great. Except for a little careless chipping and two three putts...

...but that's golf, isn't it?

:)

I played last Friday with my Taylormade Tour Burner irons. My buddy and I got paired up with a father and son. The son was around my age and he was bagging the Ping Eye 2+ irons with JZ shafts. You should have seen some of the wedge shots he hit. He was a high 80's shooter and several times he had come up 15 yards short of the green. He used his Ping Eye 2 PW three times and the longest putt he had was 3 feet. He holed one of the pitch shots from about 40 yards away.

I looked at his clubs and then looked back at mine and I really missed my Ping Eye 2 plus (no+) irons with ZZ-Lite Shafts and Ping grips. I think I'll put 'em back in the bag. I miss those guys.

[QUOTE=alangbaker;248599]Shot 38 on the front 9 at McCleery last night. My buddy and I played for free (thanks Jordan!) and as I'd just been out earlier that day watching the pros, I was hitting it great. Except for a little careless chipping and two three putts...

...but that's golf, isn't it?

:)[/QUOTE]


Did you post this twice on purpose?

[QUOTE=famousdavis;248601]Did you post this twice on purpose?[/QUOTE]

I don't know what you mean...

:D

Shot 2 over par for a 72 this morning then followed it up with a bad striking afternoon with a 77. Par is 70. I could not get near the pin at all this afternoon. Good news is I believe I have fixed my driver, avg. today was 270-275 with about a 5-10yd fade. Now I just need to learn to trust it.

[QUOTE=BigBug14;248615]Shot 2 over par for a 72 this morning then followed it up with a bad striking afternoon with a 77. Par is 70. I could not get near the pin at all this afternoon. Good news is I believe I have fixed my driver, avg. today was 270-275 with about a 5-10yd fade. Now I just need to learn to trust it.[/QUOTE]

Nice round BedBug. The fact you played 36 makes you a real golfer....something that's hard to come by.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;247603]The Club Championship started this weekend at the SPCC. I qualified as the 7th of 8 spots. I just smoked some fool 7 and 6. I played like garbage in the qualifier and benefited from 2 people dropping out. I also had 2 things happen which have never happened to me before.
I hit someone else's ball. 2 stroke penalty.
I hit a shot into a bunker that went directly into a wasp hole at the face of the bunker. We all saw my ball splash into the trap from 150 yards away and couldn't find it. One of the guys I'm playing with digs with his wedge and finds my ball 8 inches down a hole.
The guy I beat in match play seriously has issues with competitive match play. He had the second best qualifying score then got waxed when it counted. Feels good. I beat him 7 and 5 last year in a different event.
I think I need to play more to play well. Everytime I get to play a couple days a week (almost never), I play great. [B] Off to the semi-finals next weekend, where I'll be playing a scratch golfer[/B]. If I win, it's another round that day, then a 36 hole final on Sunday. Not that I'm getting ahead of myself.[/QUOTE]
Well.....we're waiting.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;248670]Well.....we're waiting.[/QUOTE]

OK Judge. Big time loss. I managed to stay 1 down after 9, but got crushed on the back. He birdied 4 out of the first 6 on the back and shot 32. 5 and 4 loser. He shot 69, I shot 76. I needed him to have an off day, but I don't think 76 beats him no matter what. It's one thing to make a comeback against a chopper, but once I got down 3 after 12, I had to really start pressing. Pressing doesn't mean jack sh!t when your opponent is hitting every green.
This guy lost 8 and 6 in the finals.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;248671]OK Judge. Big time loss. I managed to stay 1 down after 9, but got crushed on the back. He birdied 4 out of the first 6 on the back and shot 32. 5 and 4 loser. He shot 69, I shot 76. I needed him to have an off day, but I don't think 76 beats him no matter what. It's one thing to make a comeback against a chopper, but once I got down 3 after 12, I had to really start pressing. Pressing doesn't mean jack sh!t when your opponent is hitting every green.
This guy lost 8 and 6 in the finals.[/QUOTE]

Nothing you could do about that kind of play. How often does someone birdie 4 out of 6 holes? You just got unlucky that he happened to do it while playing against you.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;248675]Nothing you could do about that kind of play. How often does someone birdie 4 out of 6 holes? You just got unlucky that he happened to do it while playing against you.[/QUOTE]

It was pretty crazy. Our 10th hole is a 460 yard par 4, a bit downhill if you can carry it far enough. I played it great, deep tee shot, solid mid-iron, good look at birdie. He makes a 20 footer for birdie. He then birdies 12, which is a 180 yard par 3. I shot 37 on the back and got destroyed. 14 and 15 are par 5's that are birdie holes. I can usually birdie one out of two, but it's a sick feeling seeing the guy right in front of the green in 2 when I'm 3 down.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;248683]It was pretty crazy. Our 10th hole is a 460 yard par 4, a bit downhill if you can carry it far enough. I played it great, deep tee shot, solid mid-iron, good look at birdie. He makes a 20 footer for birdie. He then birdies 12, which is a 180 yard par 3. I shot 37 on the back and got destroyed. 14 and 15 are par 5's that are birdie holes. I can usually birdie one out of two, but it's a sick feeling seeing the guy right in front of the green in 2 when I'm 3 down.[/QUOTE]
Had you worked on Feet Of Putts Made (FOPM), you might have shown up for the match.

I'll bet your opponent didn't make alot of those birdies from outside 35 feet.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;248690]Had you worked on Feet Of Putts Made (FOPM), you might have shown up for the match.

I'll bet your opponent didn't make alot of those birdies from outside 35 feet.[/QUOTE]

Correct. My foppum score was too low to beat a 69 straight up.

My brother and I finally got out to play yesterday. Swan-e-set Resort. Beautiful day, beautiful course, but too far from Kitsilano.

Terrible front side: 46
Pretty decent back after I managed to butcher the par 5 tenth hole (took an 8). After that, I was one over par the rest of the way round, including three birdies.

46, 40 = 86

[QUOTE=alangbaker;248802]My brother and I finally got out to play yesterday. Swan-e-set Resort. Beautiful day, beautiful course, but too far from Kitsilano.

Terrible front side: 46
Pretty decent back after I managed to butcher the par 5 tenth hole (took an 8). After that, I was one over par the rest of the way round, including three birdies.

46, 40 = 86[/QUOTE]

If I am wrong about this, then please accept my apology, but haven't I seen you bragging to Larry about being a "70s" shooter?

[QUOTE=SoonerBS;248805]If I am wrong about this, then please accept my apology, but haven't I seen you bragging to Larry about being a "70s" shooter?[/QUOTE]

I never once said or implied that I always shoot in the 70s.

Hell, the pros occasionally shoot in the 80s and I'm no pro.

:)

[QUOTE=alangbaker;248806]I never once said or implied that I always shoot in the 70s.

Hell, the pros occasionally shoot in the 80s and I'm no pro.

:)[/QUOTE]

So, you never bragged to Larry about golfing in the 70s?

[QUOTE=SoonerBS;248808]So, you never bragged to Larry about golfing in the 70s?[/QUOTE]

I've certainly told him that I shoot in the 70s far more often than he does...

...but that actually isn't much bragging. Anyone who has ever broken 80 a single time has probably shot more rounds in the 70s than Larry.

:D

Had a leisurely 74 today on a 6,200 or so yard par 68. The funny thing was I didn't do anything particurlarly well, it was just one of those rounds when my bad shots weren't too bad. I putted ok, chipped ok, drove the ball ok and hit my irons ok. Nothing special, nothing terrible. Not sure how I feel about it. Usually a 6 over will have me feeling good but today it was a little falt. The highlight was nearly holing out on a short par 3. I threw a lobwedge about 15 feet past the hole and sucked it back to about 3 feet short. It must have shaved the edge as it sucked back past the hole. Had 3 birdies and only one double, the rst pars and bogies. It was probably the amatuer equivalent of a Nick Faldo round, grinding boring golf. The best thing I took away was hat I shot sucha good score without putting great. It certainly leaves it open for me to shoot low if the putter gets hot. The other feature was that even though I ddn't really drive it longI was out of trouble and reasonably long all day wiht the driver. It reinforced my belief that the driver is the biggest influence on score for amatuers.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;248823]Had a leisurely 74 today on a 6,200 or so yard par 68. The funny thing was I didn't do anything particurlarly well, it was just one of those rounds when my bad shots weren't too bad. I putted ok, chipped ok, drove the ball ok and hit my irons ok. Nothing special, nothing terrible. Not sure how I feel about it. Usually a 6 over will have me feeling good but today it was a little falt. The highlight was nearly holing out on a short par 3. I threw a lobwedge about 15 feet past the hole and sucked it back to about 3 feet short. It must have shaved the edge as it sucked back past the hole. Had 3 birdies and only one double, the rst pars and bogies. It was probably the amatuer equivalent of a Nick Faldo round, grinding boring golf. The best thing I took away was hat I shot sucha good score without putting great. It certainly leaves it open for me to shoot low if the putter gets hot. The other feature was that even though I ddn't really drive it longI was out of trouble and reasonably long all day wiht the driver. It reinforced my belief that the driver is the biggest influence on score for amatuers.[/QUOTE]

Good round! It certainly helps to be in the fairway after a drive, but my key to success on golfing more 70s over the past month has been the short game. I think it is different for everyone's game. It helps though to be improving on all aspects of the game.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;248823]Had a leisurely 74 today on a 6,200 or so yard par 68. The funny thing was I didn't do anything particurlarly well, it was just one of those rounds when my bad shots weren't too bad. I putted ok, chipped ok, drove the ball ok and hit my irons ok. Nothing special, nothing terrible. Not sure how I feel about it. Usually a 6 over will have me feeling good but today it was a little falt. The highlight was nearly holing out on a short par 3. I threw a lobwedge about 15 feet past the hole and sucked it back to about 3 feet short. It must have shaved the edge as it sucked back past the hole. Had 3 birdies and only one double, the rst pars and bogies. It was probably the amatuer equivalent of a Nick Faldo round, grinding boring golf. The best thing I took away was hat I shot sucha good score without putting great. It certainly leaves it open for me to shoot low if the putter gets hot. The other feature was that even though I ddn't really drive it longI was out of trouble and reasonably long all day wiht the driver. It reinforced my belief that the driver is the biggest influence on score for amatuers.[/QUOTE]

Well, if you look at the Tee It Forward guidelines, perhaps you were on a course that played shorter than the pros play, adjusting for driving distance. If so I can understand your feeling the score wasn't really legitimate.

[QUOTE=SoonerBS;248844]Good round! It certainly helps to be in the fairway after a drive, but my key to success on golfing more 70s over the past month has been the short game. I think it is different for everyone's game. It helps though to be improving on all aspects of the game.[/QUOTE]
My chiping probably was a bit beter yesterday tha normal, and my putting has been solid for the last 2 or 3 months so I guess you are right about the importanceof the short game. I suppose different people put different emphasis on different parts of the games depending onj their strengths and weaknesses. As my putting is good I take it for granted and place more importance on tee shots, god drivers who putt poorly (53 or less feet of total putting per round) would probably say putting is more important.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;248851]Well, if you look at the Tee It Forward guidelines, perhaps you were on a course that played shorter than the pros play, adjusting for driving distance. If so I can understand your feeling the score wasn't really legitimate.[/QUOTE]

No way was this a legit course, it's about 1,000 yards from eing legit. I didn't have any approaches on par 4s more than a pitching wedge so no way will I hang my hat on a 6 over around that track. But all the same 6 over on any course requires a level ofcontrol over your game that a 90s shooter hacker couldn't achieve. I played with an 18 cap yesterday who hit it long but had no control over his game and shot about 100.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;248855]No way was this a legit course, it's about 1,000 yards from eing legit. I didn't have any approaches on par 4s more than a pitching wedge so no way will I hang my hat on a 6 over around that track. But all the same 6 over on any course requires a level ofcontrol over your game that a 90s shooter hacker couldn't achieve. I played with an 18 cap yesterday who hit it long but had no control over his game and shot about 100.[/QUOTE]

I played like s.hit today but still carded a 76 on a 73.6 rated track. Didn't hit one good tee shot, excepting the par threes. But a short game and 5 birdies can take a s.hit round a long way.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;248865]I played like s.hit today but still carded a 76 on a 73.6 rated track. Didn't hit one good tee shot, excepting the par threes. But a short game and 5 birdies can take a s.hit round a long way.[/QUOTE]
5 birdies always means a good score. I had 3 yesterday in my round, two of wich were kick ins. You say you didn't hit one good tee shot, but I'd bet you didn't hit one really bad one either. Nicklaus is by no means somoene I woud normally listen to when it comes to golf, but he once said the measuring stick of a golfer is how good thier bad shots are, not their good shots. By far the most insightful thing he ever said.

Shot 77 on my first round with the new MBs, nothing great just didnt get in any trouble....clubs felt great still getting used to them. need to get out on the range with them real soon.

Boy am I pissed. :mad: A brief account of my last round. Bear in mind I'm a 17 handicapper. The course was Oswestry, a James Braid course that's just over 100 years old. Tree lined on all holes. Go into the trees and its practically a guaranteed bogey.



1 409 yards Par 4 - 5 (bunkered with my second shot)
2 393 yards Par 4 - 4 (an unlikely par having put my tee shot in the trees.
3 478 yards Par 5 - 5 (made a balls of the birdie put from 10 feet)
4 124 yards Par 3 - 5 (put my tee shot into the nettles and had to hack out)
5 504 yards Par 5 - 5
6 400 yards Par 4 - 4
7 303 yards Par 4 - 4
8 386 yards Par 4 - 4
9 167 yards Par 3 (steeply uphill so plays about 180) 4

Par 36 Total 40

10 386 yards par 4 -4
11 306 yards par 4 - 4
12 181 yards par 3 - 6 (hooked tee shot then a complete balls up thereafter)
13 430 yards par 4 - 6 (poor tee shot and failed to make the green in 3)
14 365 yards par 4 - 7 (hooked into the trees and took too many to get out.)
15 428 yards par 4 - 6 (hooked into the trees, chipped out, put it on the green then 3 putted the sod.)
16 332 yards par 4 - 6 (very nice 260 yard drive, second over the green, chunked the chip the rest is history)
17 169 yards par 3 - 5 (hooked it into a horrid lie and then put my second chip into the bunker on the opposite side of the green)
18 342 yards par 4 - 3 (nice 270 yard drive and a short pitch to 6 inches)

Total in Par 34 47 shots.

I hit 43% of fairways, 33% of greens in regulation and had 33 putts.

So I stand on the 12 tee only 4 over and need a birdie on the last to play to my handicap. Must be the worst choke of 2011 :mad2:

I had a first for me on Saturday. 16 straight pars to start a round. Started on the 10th and hit 11 out of 16 greens. I made everything inside 10 feet for par, and missed a couple birdies from inside 10 feet. Highlight was the par 4 fifth hole. It's only about 360 yards, but a bit of an awkward tee shot for me that I always block right. Mental problem I've got on that hole. I decide to hit the hybrid and I chunk the everloving crap out of it. Pops up 30 yards. Punch out to 100 and hit a crappy wedge to about 45 feet. Sink the par putt for 14 in a row.
Then I bogey my 17th and 18th by missing 6 footers.
Totally uncharacteristic for me. I'm usually Mr. Excitement out there, making birdies and bogeys. Pars may seem like good scores, and they are OK in moderation. But unless you are making birdies and bogeys, you're basically playing pusssy golf. Probably laying up, lag putting, and aiming for the fat part of the green.

Probably true when playing those big butch American courses with acres of green. When you play an old British course with small greens it's a different matter. Hitting the greens can be a challenge and when you do being in the centre gives you a chance at birdie.

[QUOTE=A V Twiss;248900]Probably true when playing those big butch American courses with acres of green. When you play an old British course with small greens it's a different matter. Hitting the greens can be a challenge and when you do being in the centre gives you a chance at birdie.[/QUOTE]

Don't blame me for belonging to a good golf course. Not all of us have to settle for garbage goat tracks with crappy conditions and tiny greens.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;248901]Don't blame me for belonging to a good golf course. Not all of us have to settle for garbage goat tracks with crappy conditions and tiny greens.[/QUOTE]

I'm not a snob when it comes to courses. If they serve lobster I'll play there.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;248901]Don't blame me for belonging to a good golf course. Not all of us have to settle for garbage goat tracks with crappy conditions and tiny greens.[/QUOTE]
Some of the best holes in the world have small greens. Thye 12th at Augusta is a good example. If that were a typical American rubbish course par 3 with a huge green the hole would play easy. It's no wonder there are so few American major winners these days. They get spoon fed oversized soft greens (usually slow and flat) that any hacker can hit in regulation and 2 putt. In Oz there are plenty of top courses with small to medium greens which bamboozle the fuk out of the few Americans with the balls to come here. Australian and British golf courses test every part of the golf game, and identify the real golfers in the fields. American courses are a crap shoot where the guy lucky enough to jag a few putts wins.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;248957]Some of the best holes in the world have small greens. Thye 12th at Augusta is a good example. If that were a typical American rubbish course par 3 with a huge green the hole would play easy. It's no wonder there are so few American major winners these days. They get spoon fed oversized soft greens (usually slow and flat) that any hacker can hit in regulation and 2 putt. In Oz there are plenty of top courses with small to medium greens which bamboozle the fuk out of the few Americans with the balls to come here. Australian and British golf courses test every part of the golf game, and identify the real golfers in the fields. American courses are a crap shoot where the guy lucky enough to jag a few putts wins.[/QUOTE]

My course is a 1910 Donald Ross design. Its greens make the uninitiated sh!t a brick. It's not enough to "hit the green," you've got to hit it in the correct place, unlike those massive, slow greens we see at all the British Open rota courses. I can't speak to Aussie courses since I assume there are only a couple championship courses. Here in the states, par 72, with occasional par 70-71. Par 68 courses, like your goat track, don't exist.
Plus, haven't we already proven conclusively that Augusta National is an overgroomed joke of a course? It was created by racist crackers to show the minorities in the South just how much money and power they are up against.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;248957]Some of the best holes in the world have small greens. Thye 12th at Augusta is a good example. If that were a typical American rubbish course par 3 with a huge green the hole would play easy. It's no wonder there are so few American major winners these days. They get spoon fed oversized soft greens (usually slow and flat) that any hacker can hit in regulation and 2 putt. In Oz there are plenty of top courses with small to medium greens which bamboozle the fuk out of the few Americans with the balls to come here. Australian and British golf courses test every part of the golf game, and identify the real golfers in the fields. American courses are a crap shoot where the guy lucky enough to jag a few putts wins.[/QUOTE]

I've never understood the need for gigantic greens. I love the older courses with small, mounded greens. What I especially don't like are "tricked up" greens with steep slopes and multiple tiers. Putting shouldn't be a big part of the game.

I have to say, I've never some across better designed greens than Donald Ross'. Unfortunately there are few that are still relevant distance-wise by today's standards.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;248989]I have to say, I've never some across better designed greens than Donald Ross'. Unfortunately there are few that are still relevant distance-wise by today's standards.[/QUOTE]

My course has 14 greens that are more or less in the original Ross design. In the 50's, 4 greens were moved which are now much less severe than the rest of the course. There are 5 greens which are brutal. The thing about those old Ross greens is that they were designed before advancements in maintenance allowed courses to cut lower than 1/8 inches. It's fun to have 5 greens that get in your head before the tee shot, but I don't think it would be fun to play 18 as severe as those.
Our course tips out around 6700 yards. We are adding two more tees before next year which will give us 6750, and the USGA would like the course to play 6800 at par 71 for the Local Qualifier.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;249013]My course has 14 greens that are more or less in the original Ross design. In the 50's, 4 greens were moved which are now much less severe than the rest of the course. There are 5 greens which are brutal. The thing about those old Ross greens is that they were designed before advancements in maintenance allowed courses to cut lower than 1/8 inches. It's fun to have 5 greens that get in your head before the tee shot, but I don't think it would be fun to play 18 as severe as those.
Our course tips out around 6700 yards. We are adding two more tees before next year which will give us 6750, and the USGA would like the course to play 6800 at par 71 for the Local Qualifier.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, 6,750 sounds borderline as a USGA course but fine for most golfers, depending upon how it plays. Just looking at Tee It Forward guidelines, you're pulling driver most holes unless you drive it much over 275. Not that those guidelines are authoritative, although if anything they're designed to move most golfers to shorter tees.

With mostly Ross greens I'll bet the Mac has some teeth.

We did a lengthening a few years back, to 7,280. If we add tees to the roof of the club house we gain another 70 yards and can play one of the par 5-s as a par 4.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;249016]Yeah, 6,750 sounds borderline as a USGA course but fine for most golfers, depending upon how it plays. Just looking at Tee It Forward guidelines, you're pulling driver most holes unless you drive it much over 275. Not that those guidelines are authoritative, although if anything they're designed to move most golfers to shorter tees.

With mostly Ross greens I'll bet the Mac has some teeth.

We did a lengthening a few years back, to 7,280. If we add tees to the roof of the club house we gain another 70 yards and can play one of the par 5-s as a par 4.[/QUOTE]

The par 5's are a joke, as are most courses over 100 years old. I love the course, and I've played it at least 200 times. Good par 3's with shots anywhere from 150 - 220 yards. Every hole is interesting, and there are 5 par 4's that are really tough on the drive, second shot and green. I'm shocked that the USGA doesn't convert a couple 5's into 4's for the quali, but I'm also shocked that only about a dozen people shoot par every year. One year, 73 made it to the Sectionals.

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[QUOTE=Horseballs;249013]My course has 14 greens that are more or less in the original Ross design. In the 50's, 4 greens were moved which are now much less severe than the rest of the course. There are 5 greens which are brutal. The thing about those old Ross greens is that they were designed before advancements in maintenance allowed courses to cut lower than 1/8 inches. It's fun to have 5 greens that get in your head before the tee shot, but I don't think it would be fun to play 18 as severe as those.
Our course tips out around 6700 yards. We are adding two more tees before next year which will give us 6750,[B] and the USGA would like the course to play 6800 at par 71 for the Local Qualifier.[/[/B]QUOTE]
I don't think a course should be rated purely on length. How long a course plays is heavily influenced by the type of grass on the fairways. In Australia we get a lot of courses with kikuyu fairways, and unless they are cut real short they play extremely long. Lush kikuyu grabs the ball and provides no run, and also makes it difficult to really hit down on the ball cleanly without grass wrapping around the clubhead and robbing your irons of distance. Couch plays a lot shorter to yardage. I've played kikuyu courses in the 6,500 yard range that play longer than 7,000 couch courses, or certainly seem to.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;248983]I've never understood the need for gigantic greens. I love the older courses with small, mounded greens. What I especially don't like are "tricked up" greens with steep slopes and multiple tiers. Putting shouldn't be a big part of the game.[/QUOTE]
100% agree. If you want ridiculous putts go to putt putt golf, but real golf greens shouldn't be so penal as to take away from the rest of the game. Nobody minds playing firm slick greens, but I've occassionally played courses where the slope of the greens combined with the pin placements has made it a lottery. Putting should be a big part of the game, but not a lucky dip. Courses sshould always allow for the best all round player to win, not the luckiest putter.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;249049][QUOTE=Horseballs;249013]My course has 14 greens that are more or less in the original Ross design. In the 50's, 4 greens were moved which are now much less severe than the rest of the course. There are 5 greens which are brutal. The thing about those old Ross greens is that they were designed before advancements in maintenance allowed courses to cut lower than 1/8 inches. It's fun to have 5 greens that get in your head before the tee shot, but I don't think it would be fun to play 18 as severe as those.
Our course tips out around 6700 yards. We are adding two more tees before next year which will give us 6750,[B] and the USGA would like the course to play 6800 at par 71 for the Local Qualifier.[/[/B]QUOTE]
I don't think a course should be rated purely on length. How long a course plays is heavily influenced by the type of grass on the fairways. In Australia we get a lot of courses with kikuyu fairways, and unless they are cut real short they play extremely long. Lush kikuyu grabs the ball and provides no run, and also makes it difficult to really hit down on the ball cleanly without grass wrapping around the clubhead and robbing your irons of distance. Couch plays a lot shorter to yardage. I've played kikuyu courses in the 6,500 yard range that play longer than 7,000 couch courses, or certainly seem to.[/QUOTE]

You'd be amazed at all the criteria that the USGA sets forth in order to hold an event, even one as inconsequential as a local US Open Qualifier. I'm not just talking about rough length and green speeds either. They've held my course to the fire about cutting down limbs, trees, removing flower beds, mowing bunker collars, etc. They even made us take out a memorial "totem pole" that was donated by a late member's family because it was in the sight line of a tee shot. The USGA officials come in a couple weeks prior and give all kinds of recommendations.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;249060][QUOTE=Not a hacker;249049]

You'd be amazed at all the criteria that the USGA sets forth in order to hold an event, even one as inconsequential as a local US Open Qualifier. I'm not just talking about rough length and green speeds either. They've held my course to the fire about cutting down limbs, trees, removing flower beds, mowing bunker collars, etc. They even made us take out a memorial "totem pole" that was donated by a late member's family because it was in the sight line of a tee shot. The USGA officials come in a couple weeks prior and give all kinds of recommendations.[/QUOTE]
Not surprised about the totem pole. There seems to be a lot of face slappers on tour over there who would be put out by having a pagan symbol in thier line of sight standing on the tee.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;249124][QUOTE=Horseballs;249060]
Not surprised about the totem pole. There seems to be a lot of face slappers on tour over there who would be put out by having a pagan symbol in thier line of sight standing on the tee.[/QUOTE]

That's probably right. What ever happened to the good old days on tour where guys would get drunk at the clubhouse after every round, and go out carousing for tang? There were all sorts of unsavory characters on tour back in the day, like that backstabbing cheat Palmer. Nowadays, you've got these watered down Zach Johnson types who have about as much passion and personality as a plain bagel.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;249127][QUOTE=Not a hacker;249124]

That's probably right. What ever happened to the good old days on tour where guys would get drunk at the clubhouse after every round, and go out carousing for tang? There were all sorts of unsavory characters on tour back in the day, like that backstabbing cheat Palmer. Nowadays, you've got these watered down Zach Johnson types who have about as much passion and personality as a plain bagel.[/QUOTE]
I thought Palmer played it up as the christian family man for the cameras? I have no doubt he would be a very unsavoury character afetr a few looseners at the bar and his true colours came out though. A grub on the golf course will be a grub off it.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;249130][QUOTE=Horseballs;249127]
I thought Palmer played it up as the christian family man for the cameras? I have no doubt he would be a very unsavoury character afetr a few looseners at the bar and his true colours came out though. A grub on the golf course will be a grub off it.[/QUOTE]


Palmer's wife cheating is legendary. It's very simple. Cheaters cheat.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;249136][QUOTE=Not a hacker;249130]


Palmer's wife cheating is legendary. It's very simple. Cheaters cheat.[/QUOTE]
That's funny. The only magazine article I've read about Palmer and womanising is the story about a couple of guys sending a girl to is room on tour just after he was married, but Palmer apparently was completely offended and set the record straight that he was a committed family man, and from then on nobody ever tried to get him involved with off course shenanigans fro the rest of his career. There have been other stories too about how he met his wife and that was it for him, the world stopped and he was happily monogomous for the rest of his life and never even looked at another woman blah blah. It's just like a cheater to fabricate a story to create a false image. It should have been obvious that anyone going to that much trouble to look clean would be dirtier than anyone.

Just thought I'd chime in to have a little brag about the round I had today. Shot 71 on one of my home courses. (rating 72, slope around 140). Pretty pleased with that. Made 4 birdies and went very close to two more. Nearly holed out on a par 3 (6") and shot 4 under in a mid round 6 hole stretch. Just put a new putter into play and it it running hot. Played 3 rounds with it. 76, 75 then 71 today.
As you can see i am feeling pretty happy with myself.
All it really means is I'm closer to the next bad one.

[QUOTE=oldplayer;249520]Just thought I'd chime in to have a little brag about the round I had today. Shot 71 on one of my home courses. (rating 72, slope around 140). Pretty pleased with that. Made 4 birdies and went very close to two more. Nearly holed out on a par 3 (6") and shot 4 under in a mid round 6 hole stretch. Just put a new putter into play and it it running hot. Played 3 rounds with it. 76, 75 then 71 today.
As you can see i am feeling pretty happy with myself.
All it really means is I'm closer to the next bad one.[/QUOTE]
So what's this new putter?

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;249529]So what's this new putter?[/QUOTE]

It's a Yes Ashley. It is a mid mallet with a bit of weight. I'd never seen one before until I was in a local golf store recently and picked it up as Iiked the look of it. Felt great, lovely balance, good feel off the face and puts a good roll on the ball. (It's a bit heavier than most i've used). I hunted one down from Dallas golf (new for $49) and so far so good.
Nothing as sweet as a good honeymoon with a new putter.

[QUOTE=oldplayer;249531]It's a Yes Ashley. It is a mid mallet with a bit of weight. I'd never seen one before until I was in a local golf store recently and picked it up as Iiked the look of it. Felt great, lovely balance, good feel off the face and puts a good roll on the ball. (It's a bit heavier than most i've used). I hunted one down from Dallas golf (new for $49) and so far so good.
Nothing as sweet as a good honeymoon with a new putter.[/QUOTE]
Good price for a Yes, it's great when golf companies go broke.
Congrats on the sub par round too. I'm yet to shoot one myself (one 1 over and a few 2 overs), and am starting to think my chances are fading as I only get out once a week and never get to practice much. I still might do it one day if the stars line up for 18 holes, but it would involve more luck than skill for me to shoot under par.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;249532]Good price for a Yes, it's great when golf companies go broke.
Congrats on the sub par round too. I'm yet to shoot one myself (one 1 over and a few 2 overs), and am starting to think my chances are fading as I only get out once a week and never get to practice much. I still might do it one day if the stars line up for 18 holes, but it would involve more luck than skill for me to shoot under par.[/QUOTE]

Always a bit of luck in shooting low. When the 25 foot birdie putts go in even if you were trying to hole it and made a good stroke you still feel a bit lucky that they actually go in.

[QUOTE=oldplayer;249538]Always a bit of luck in shooting low. When the 25 foot birdie putts go in even if you were trying to hole it and made a good stroke you still feel a bit lucky that they actually go in.[/QUOTE]

Great game OP! 71 is a helluva score. I'm not familiar with the Yes! Ashley so I'll need to look that one up. It's great when the whole game comes together. What driver were you using...the G15?

[QUOTE=oldplayer;249520]Just thought I'd chime in to have a little brag about the round I had today. Shot 71 on one of my home courses. (rating 72, slope around 140). Pretty pleased with that. Made 4 birdies and went very close to two more. Nearly holed out on a par 3 (6") and shot 4 under in a mid round 6 hole stretch. Just put a new putter into play and it it running hot. Played 3 rounds with it. 76, 75 then 71 today.
As you can see i am feeling pretty happy with myself.
All it really means is I'm closer to the next bad one.[/QUOTE]

Great round OP and on a difficult course as well. Keep it up.

A 71 on a 140 slope is indeed impressive, but more importantly, you finally got that abortion of metal out of yoir bag. What were you thinking?

Thanks fellas. Yes FD the G15 was awesome as usual. What was interesting was I had a new set of irons in the bag (last two rounds). Some Tourstage TS 201's. They have grandpa shafts. NS pro 950 gh reg. but I sure stiffed a lot of approach shots yesterday.

What can I say Loz. The two ball copy got the ball in the hole. Sure i always thought it was butt ugly with no feel but it worked ok most of the time.This new one though is definately a class above. Counted up my putts last night. I had 29.

Great round, OP! And to think you did it without Stevie Williams' help.

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[QUOTE=oldplayer;249592]Thanks fellas. Yes FD the G15 was awesome as usual. What was interesting was I had a new set of irons in the bag (last two rounds). Some Tourstage TS 201's. They have grandpa shafts. NS pro 950 gh reg. but I sure stiffed a lot of approach shots yesterday.

What can I say Loz. The two ball copy got the ball in the hole. Sure i always thought it was butt ugly with no feel but it worked ok most of the time.This new one though is definately a class above. Counted up my putts last night. I had 29.[/QUOTE]

Great round! What were your FOPM and FSA numbers like?

[QUOTE=Horseballs;249597]Great round! What were your FOPM and FSA numbers like?[/QUOTE]

Given the predictable numeric relationship between PM and FOPM, I think we should already have a fairly good idea of this.

Great Round OP.

The run of great form just goes on and on. I just bought a Yes Tracy putter off RBG for $39.95. They also had the Ashley for the same price. If the Tracy doesn't work out might have to give the Ashley a try.

Tell us more about the Z201s. Are they a follow up to the Z101s?

[QUOTE=oldplayer;249592]Thanks fellas. Yes FD the G15 was awesome as usual. What was interesting was I had a new set of irons in the bag (last two rounds). Some Tourstage TS 201's. [B]They have grandpa shafts. NS pro 950 gh reg. but I sure stiffed a lot of approach shots yesterday.[/B]
What can I say Loz. The two ball copy got the ball in the hole. Sure i always thought it was butt ugly with no feel but it worked ok most of the time.This new one though is definately a class above. Counted up my putts last night. I had 29.[/QUOTE]
My old MX20s had those shafts in them and I must say they were impressive. They certainly felt softish but didn't hook or balloon on me. If I had the inclination to fuk around I would ty to get Nippon 1050 in stiff on the strength of my 950 regs. But I don't so I guess I'll stick with the TT 'made for' stiff shafts I have in now.