Round Report 2011

[QUOTE=Horseballs;249597]Great round! What were your FOPM and FSA numbers like?[/QUOTE]

Don't know the FOPM but it was a lot more than usual! As for the FSA I don't recall any. Only 14 boring GIR but there 1 good sand save and some good up and downs with a gw. Sorry, not very impressive.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;249615]Great Round OP.

The run of great form just goes on and on. I just bought a Yes Tracy putter off RBG for $39.95. They also had the Ashley for the same price. If the Tracy doesn't work out might have to give the Ashley a try.

Tell us more about the Z201s. Are they a follow up to the Z101s?[/QUOTE]

Yeah the Ashley appeared on RBG just after i bought one from Dallas Golf. They were hard to find when I was looking, unless you were left handed.
The TS 201 were released before the Z101 I think. They are a cb but quite compact with a topline and lack of offset very similar to the Z101.
They were a Japan issue only I believe, unlike the Z101 which were also a US retail release. The TS 201 were very popular on the Japan tour for some time. Their sister model the TS 202 were similar but more of the shovel version.
They have a weight pad behind the sweet spot which gives them that solid Tourstage feel. They are really quite similar to the Z101, perhaps not quite as good looking but i think on performance so far are a little more forgiving.
The reason I bought them (they came up on Aussie ebay) was apart from being Tourstage, I wanted to try a set of heads like them with that grandpa shaft. So far the experiment is a success. I can load the shaft well and accuracy and distance seem very good. As NAH said they don't seem to balloon or get hookey on me either.I have now made the full transition from 4 years ago playing only S300 to a softer lightweight shaft more suited to my age.

Today I had an interesting round. I put the Titleist 990's back in the bag along with the Hyper X Tour driver. On the front 9 I had 12 putts and on the back I had 15 putts for a total of 27. I don't recall a round where I made so many 8 and 10 footers for par. I shot a 75 and I believe I only hit 5 or 6 greens in regulation. The shots that missed the green were still fairly close but I did convert some clutch lob shots. I tried to play smart golf and it paid off. I felt like I hit the 990s pretty good but I kept coming up just short of the green.

[QUOTE=oldplayer;249531]It's a Yes Ashley. It is a mid mallet with a bit of weight. I'd never seen one before until I was in a local golf store recently and picked it up as Iiked the look of it. Felt great, lovely balance, good feel off the face and puts a good roll on the ball. (It's a bit heavier than most i've used). I hunted one down from Dallas golf (new for $49) and so far so good.
Nothing as sweet as a good honeymoon with a new putter.[/QUOTE]

I was looking on RBG at the Ashley Putters last week and they weren't available. Then I looked again a few days ago and they had them available for $69.95. I thought at that price I should grab one and asked a buddy if he was interested in getting something in order to share the shipping costs. He knew the Ashley putter and was keen to get one too. So I come home tonight and log on to RBG and what do you know - they have the Yes Ashley putters on special at $29.95! At that price it's a no brainer!

There are now two of them in transit to NZ. :cool:

Man this internet shopping is the business. These putters still retail for about $249 in NZ.

Had my worst round of the year today. No rhythm, no conentration, no feel. This is a stupid game sometimes. 7 days ago I turned in even par for the front nie, and have done zero since. My game just deserted me. I really believe that scoring is mental, if you can't get your brain into gear and your focus on the job, you can't play well no matter how good your game is tecnique wise.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;250159]Had my worst round of the year today. No rhythm, no conentration, no feel. This is a stupid game sometimes. 7 days ago I turned in even par for the front nie, and have done zero since. My game just deserted me. I really believe that scoring is mental, if you can't get your brain into gear and your focus on the job, you can't play well no matter how good your game is tecnique wise.[/QUOTE]

You're supposed to post your score in this thread no matter how bad it is. That is the first step toward cleansing yourself of the terrible round. What did you shoot anyway? I played great yesterday with the exception of two brain dead holes where I had double bogeys. Are you sure your driver shaft isn't too stiff?

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;250157]I was looking on RBG at the Ashley Putters last week and they weren't available. Then I looked again a few days ago and they had them available for $69.95. I thought at that price I should grab one and asked a buddy if he was interested in getting something in order to share the shipping costs. He knew the Ashley putter and was keen to get one too. So I come home tonight and log on to RBG and what do you know - they have the Yes Ashley putters on special at $29.95! At that price it's a no brainer!

There are now two of them in transit to NZ. :cool:

Man this internet shopping is the business. These putters still retail for about $249 in NZ.[/QUOTE]

I hope you like it kiwi. i am liking mine a lot and holing some good putts. Did I mention it is quite a heavy putter? This took a little to get used to but that combined with the grooves on the face put a really good roll on the ball.
Quite a lot of retail businesses are struggling or failing because of internet sales. Especially with the high dollar here. It is so cheap to buy online compared to domestic retail it is just a matter of time until the vast majority of consumers will buy that way. Not necessarily great for the local ecomomy, but that is how capitalism works. At least we are doing our best to prop up the struggling American ecomomy for our GR bretheren.
Large internet sellers like 3 balls have started to list a lot of stuff on Aussie ebay. I guess thay can't get the sales in the US ATM. We are overrun with cheap golf gear!
RBG ship fedex so that is ok, but USPS has almost ground to a standstill. It is now common to wait well over a month for delivery and Aussie customs just cannot cope.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;250159]Had my worst round of the year today. No rhythm, no conentration, no feel. This is a stupid game sometimes. 7 days ago I turned in even par for the front nie, and have done zero since. My game just deserted me. [B]I really believe that scoring is mental, if you can't get your brain into gear and your focus on the job, you can't play well no matter how good your game is tecnique wise.[/B][/QUOTE]

You are exactly right. Plus, golf is such a game of inches. Sometimes you can hit a great shot, but if it is 4 or 5 inches short, it can turn into disaster. If your swing is just an angle or two off, it can be disaster. Some days are going to diamonds, some are going to be coal. All I'm trying to do is just have more diamond days than I do coal. Whenever I have a bad day, I just chalk it up as a bad day and try to forget about it.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;250169]You're supposed to post your score in this thread no matter how bad it is. That is the first step toward cleansing yourself of the terrible round. What did you shoot anyway? I played great yesterday with the exception of two brain dead holes where I had double bogeys. [B]Are you sure your driver shaft isn't too stiff?[/B][/QUOTE]

That's kind of a personal question to ask, isn't it?

[QUOTE=famousdavis;250169]You're supposed to post your score in this thread no matter how bad it is. That is the first step toward cleansing yourself of the terrible round. What did you shoot anyway? I played great yesterday with the exception of two brain dead holes where I had double bogeys. Are you sure your driver shaft isn't too stiff?[/QUOTE]
I shot a woeful 14 over, with plenty of shots dropped around the greens from yipped putts and duffed chips and pitches. Driver was probably my strongest club. Was wining the long drive with only a few groups to go, and controlled the ball well on most holes. It was a very windy day and the stiffer shaft actualy helped me keep the ball under control.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;250192]I shot a woeful 14 over, with plenty of shots dropped around the greens from yipped putts and duffed chips and pitches. Driver was probably my strongest club. Was wining the long drive with only a few groups to go, and controlled the ball well on most holes. It was a very windy day and the stiffer shaft actualy helped me keep the ball under control.[/QUOTE]

Chipping is one of those strange things about golf. Sometimes it seems so easy. I just walk up to the ball, take a couple of quick practice strokes and then just cozy it up there within 2 feet like it's nothing. Other times, I'll come up short on one shot and then go ten feet past the hole on the next one. One thing you can do when you feel your chipping is off is to take the strongest lofted club possible for all chips and just concentrate on hitting the ball first with a short stroke.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;250198]Chipping is one of those strange things about golf. Sometimes it seems so easy. I just walk up to the ball, take a couple of quick practice strokes and then just cozy it up there within 2 feet like it's nothing. Other times, I'll come up short on one shot and then go ten feet past the hole on the next one. One thing you can do when you feel your chipping is off is to take the strongest lofted club possible for all chips and just concentrate on hitting the ball first with a short stroke.[/QUOTE]
Funny thing was that first hole I walked straight up and pitched a SW stiff rom off the green like it was nothing, then didn't get another one remotely cose all day.

Not long ago I started golfing occasionally with someone who is a big proponent of expanding one's mind herbally while practicing. I'd had a little experience with this in another sport, but not golf.

Now, I've imbibed occasionally while golfing, so I was of the mindset to not be hypocritical about this. I have to say, it's had a dramatic effect. I'm now swinging better than I ever have in my life, hitting the ball longer and more crisply than ever, with less effort. It's as though I've become aware of things that were otherwise escaping me.

I've restricted this approach to practice sessions so far but it's benefits have applied to my playing rounds which recently have been my lowest ever.

[QUOTE=oldplayer;250175]I hope you like it kiwi. i am liking mine a lot and holing some good putts. Did I mention it is quite a heavy putter? This took a little to get used to but that combined with the grooves on the face put a really good roll on the ball.
Quite a lot of retail businesses are struggling or failing because of internet sales. Especially with the high dollar here. It is so cheap to buy online compared to domestic retail it is just a matter of time until the vast majority of consumers will buy that way. Not necessarily great for the local ecomomy, but that is how capitalism works. At least we are doing our best to prop up the struggling American ecomomy for our GR bretheren.
Large internet sellers like 3 balls have started to list a lot of stuff on Aussie ebay. I guess thay can't get the sales in the US ATM. We are overrun with cheap golf gear!
RBG ship fedex so that is ok, but USPS has almost ground to a standstill. It is now common to wait well over a month for delivery and Aussie customs just cannot cope.[/QUOTE]

I'm currently bagging the Yes Tracy which is heavier than my old Never Compromise putter but I'm really liking it. Between the extra weight and the grooves it puts a really nice roll on the ball. It is great for judging the weight on longer putts and seems to line up nicely for the shorter putts. After your rave review of the Ashley I was keen to try it and I already liked the look of it. I'm keen to try it too as it is mallet style putter whereas my Never Compromise and Tracy putter are more blade style.

Yeah the Fedex shipping is great. Very reasonably priced and the clubs show up within about 4-5 working days. If it wasn't for RBG I wouldn't be buying all these new clubs. They still retail for anywhere between $249-$299 here. No way I would be ho'ing several new putters at that price but at $39.99 & $29.99 I'm laughing.

Retailers are also struggling here but that's just too bad. For too long the big brand distributors have been price gouging our region and ripping us off. A classic example was the recent furore over the price of the new Adidas All Black jersey. $220 in NZ but available for about $105 from the US including shipping. The internet has created a Worldwide market and the regional price gouging is just going to have to end if retail down here is to continue/survive.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;250206]I'm currently bagging the Yes Tracy which is heavier than my old Never Compromise putter but I'm really liking it. Between the extra weight and the grooves it puts a really nice roll on the ball. It is great for judging the weight on longer putts and seems to line up nicely for the shorter putts. After your rave review of the Ashley I was keen to try it and I already liked the look of it. I'm keen to try it too as it is mallet style putter whereas my Never Compromise and Tracy putter are more blade style.

Yeah the Fedex shipping is great. Very reasonably priced and the clubs show up within about 4-5 working days. If it wasn't for RBG I wouldn't be buying all these new clubs. They still retail for anywhere between $249-$299 here. No way I would be ho'ing several new putters at that price but at $39.99 & $29.99 I'm laughing.

Retailers are also struggling here but that's just too bad. For too long the big brand distributors have been price gouging our region and ripping us off. A classic example was the recent furore over the price of the new Adidas All Black jersey. $220 in NZ but available for about $105 from the US including shipping. The internet has created a Worldwide market and the regional price gouging is just going to have to end if retail down here is to continue/survive.[/QUOTE]

It's the big multicorps' own stupid fault this is happening to them. They make millions by selling licensing rights to distributors individual countries, but charge less in the US because of the greater volume of sales, then wonder why people just buy direct from the states and ship it in themselves. In the old days it was illegal to sell anything without the permission of the local distributor who basically paid for owership of the copyright here, but copyright laws have changed to allow 'grey imports' in about 10 or so years ago, so now American companies can sell what they like on the net to NZ and Aus. I'm nt just talking golf here, but everything. I would imagine that pretty soon local distributors won't be prepared to pay licensing fees to own the retail rights in Oz (or NZ), there's no point if it can be circumvented so easily. As you said bad news for retailers but great news for hoes. It really goes to show just how much mark up there used to be on glf equipment in backwaters like the pacific rim.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;250211]It's the big multicorps' own stupid fault this is happening to them. They make millions by selling licensing rights to distributors individual countries, but charge less in the US because of the greater volume of sales, then wonder why people just buy direct from the states and ship it in themselves. In the old days it was illegal to sell anything without the permission of the local distributor who basically paid for owership of the copyright here, but copyright laws have changed to allow 'grey imports' in about 10 or so years ago, so now American companies can sell what they like on the net to NZ and Aus. I'm nt just talking golf here, but everything. I would imagine that pretty soon local distributors won't be prepared to pay licensing fees to own the retail rights in Oz (or NZ), there's no point if it can be circumvented so easily. As you said bad news for retailers but great news for hoes. It really goes to show just how much mark up there used to be on glf equipment in backwaters like the pacific rim.[/QUOTE]


Some of us have been parking money in Australian and New Zealand as a safe haven from the plummeting, volatile US dollar. So you guys owe those of us who have (me) some thanks for the cheap golf gear.

In the past the high prices were because we didn't want anything you have so the exchange worked much more to your disadvantage. As someone who's spent much time around different places and currencies, it's not only theoretical, I've seen it many times.

This also means you'll see fewer international tourists and alot more illegal immigration for jobs causing job losses amongst the natives. But because the exchange will over time reduce how much the rest of the world can do business with you, eventually it will worsen gross economic conditions. And since you won't have had a chance to amass significant foreign reserves as this is really just a currency play, there will at some point probably be alot of whipsawing of your exchange rates.

So maybe don't thank me too soon.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;250221]Some of us have been parking money in Australian and New Zealand as a safe haven from the plummeting, volatile US dollar. So you guys owe those of us who have (me) some thanks for the cheap golf gear.

In the past the high prices were because we didn't want anything you have so the exchange worked much more to your disadvantage. As someone who's spent much time around different places and currencies, it's not only theoretical, I've seen it many times.

This also means you'll see fewer international tourists and alot more illegal immigration for jobs causing job losses amongst the natives. But because the exchange will over time reduce how much the rest of the world can do business with you, eventually it will worsen gross economic conditions. And since you won't have had a chance to amass significant foreign reserves as this is really just a currency play, there will at some point probably be alot of whipsawing of your exchange rates.

So maybe don't thank me too soon.[/QUOTE]

I thought you were parking it here to earn the nice high interest rates. Everybody knows our dollar is over valued due to large fund managers sinking significant investment funds into the NZD in order to obtain the high interest rates. That along with the inherent weakness in the USD, Euro and Pound have sent our FX rate soaring. It isn't hurting our exporters too much yet as commodity prices are so high but a significant downward shift could rapidly cause a lot of pain.

But the question of ho'ing isn't about the exchange rate it's about the pricing of goods in the US/Euro market vs the Pacific Rim region where they feel entitled to mercilessly ream us on the wholesale price. Maybe this pricing level was established back in the day when the exchange rate really was 50c to the USD and shipping/freight costs really did add 30-40% to the cost of landing goods here. Just ain't the case now but corporates like Adidas still feel they can ream the gullible masses for more than twice the price of other markets because they always have.

However with the help of the internet, E-Bay and sites like RBG it's now a Worldwide Market and the worm has well and truly turned! :D

The putter I just ordered off RBG for $29.99 is for sale in my local pro shop for $299. Even if our exchange rate drops to 40c I'm still landing it for half that price.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;250206]I'm currently bagging the Yes Tracy which is heavier than my old Never Compromise putter but I'm really liking it. Between the extra weight and the grooves it puts a really nice roll on the ball. It is great for judging the weight on longer putts and seems to line up nicely for the shorter putts. After your rave review of the Ashley I was keen to try it and I already liked the look of it. I'm keen to try it too as it is mallet style putter whereas my Never Compromise and Tracy putter are more blade style.

Yeah the Fedex shipping is great. Very reasonably priced and the clubs show up within about 4-5 working days. If it wasn't for RBG I wouldn't be buying all these new clubs. They still retail for anywhere between $249-$299 here. No way I would be ho'ing several new putters at that price but at $39.99 & $29.99 I'm laughing.

Retailers are also struggling here but that's just too bad. For too long the big brand distributors have been price gouging our region and ripping us off. A classic example was the recent furore over the price of the new Adidas All Black jersey. $220 in NZ but available for about $105 from the US including shipping. The internet has created a Worldwide market and the regional price gouging is just going to have to end if retail down here is to continue/survive.[/QUOTE]

After a bad week of mediocre putting last week, I am sticking the YES Callie forged putter in the bag this week.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;250236]I thought you were parking it here to earn the nice high interest rates. Everybody knows our dollar is over valued due to large fund managers sinking significant investment funds into the NZD in order to obtain the high interest rates. That along with the inherent weakness in the USD, Euro and Pound have sent our FX rate soaring. It isn't hurting our exporters too much yet as commodity prices are so high but a significant downward shift could rapidly cause a lot of pain.

But the question of ho'ing isn't about the exchange rate it's about the pricing of goods in the US/Euro market vs the Pacific Rim region where they feel entitled to mercilessly ream us on the wholesale price. Maybe this pricing level was established back in the day when the exchange rate really was 50c to the USD and shipping/freight costs really did add 30-40% to the cost of landing goods here. Just ain't the case now but corporates like Adidas still feel they can ream the gullible masses for more than twice the price of other markets because they always have.

However with the help of the internet, E-Bay and sites like RBG it's now a Worldwide Market and the worm has well and truly turned! :D

The putter I just ordered off RBG for $29.99 is for sale in my local pro shop for $299. Even if our exchange rate drops to 40c I'm still landing it for half that price.[/QUOTE]

Well, rather than debate interest rates versus currency arbitrage, simply look at their return components over the last whatever. We wouldn't be headed your way for interest rate differential if it wasn't for the currency.

As far as why equipment's become more affordable. I get that you guys resort to blame in this regard as part of your culture, but it's counter to logic that competition wouldn't produce the same equilibrium there it does here.

It isn't a coincidence all of these dynamics mirror capital flows.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;250236]I thought you were parking it here to earn the nice high interest rates. Everybody knows our dollar is over valued due to large fund managers sinking significant investment funds into the NZD in order to obtain the high interest rates. That along with the inherent weakness in the USD, Euro and Pound have sent our FX rate soaring. It isn't hurting our exporters too much yet as commodity prices are so high but a significant downward shift could rapidly cause a lot of pain.

But the question of ho'ing isn't about the exchange rate it's about the pricing of goods in the US/Euro market vs the Pacific Rim region where they feel entitled to mercilessly ream us on the wholesale price. Maybe this pricing level was established back in the day when the exchange rate really was 50c to the USD and shipping/freight costs really did add 30-40% to the cost of landing goods here. Just ain't the case now but corporates like Adidas still feel they can ream the gullible masses for more than twice the price of other markets because they always have.

However with the help of the internet, E-Bay and sites like RBG it's now a Worldwide Market and the worm has well and truly turned! :D

The putter I just ordered off RBG for $29.99 is for sale in my local pro shop for $299. Even if our exchange rate drops to 40c I'm still landing it for half that price.[/QUOTE]


This doesn't sound like it has anything to do with exchange rates or the value of the dollar. To me this sounds like a shortage of local golf stores and a supply and demand issue. Your local golf stores charge full price for last year's merchandise and you can get the same stuff in the US for much cheaper. Sounds to me like your country is getting product later than other countries.

I played an a-load of golf last week on vacation. 4 rounds, including Harbor Town in Hilton Head. I put the new driver shaft in play without having hit a single ball, and the results were a bit inconsistent. Those courses are so tight that slight mistakes off the tee are lost balls.
My first round at the RT Jones course in Palmetto Dunes was a dreadful front nine, but that was the only really bad stretch for the week.
I would have lit up Harbor Town if not for 2 holes, and I blame our caddy for one of them. I hit a ball OB on 18, basically because the caddy told me to aim up the right side. His logic was that I could run through the fairway into the bay if I hit straight down the middle (of a fairway that is literally 100 yards wide). It was about 325 yards to reach the water. I re-tee, hit my third shot in play, then hook a 6 iron into the bay. Net result was an 8 on a par 4. The other hole, I blocked my 3 wood into a lateral hazard, chipped out, then made a mess for a 7. I finished +9 on the day.
For three of the four rounds, I had really good ballstriking. Never really found a groove on the greens. I really don't like bermuda. There is no such thing as dying the ball into the hole when putting into the grain.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;250265]I played an a-load of golf last week on vacation. 4 rounds, including Harbor Town in Hilton Head. I put the new driver shaft in play without having hit a single ball, and the results were a bit inconsistent. Those courses are so tight that slight mistakes off the tee are lost balls.
My first round at the RT Jones course in Palmetto Dunes was a dreadful front nine, but that was the only really bad stretch for the week.
I would have lit up Harbor Town if not for 2 holes, and I blame our caddy for one of them. I hit a ball OB on 18, basically because the caddy told me to aim up the right side. His logic was that I could run through the fairway into the bay if I hit straight down the middle (of a fairway that is literally 100 yards wide). It was about 325 yards to reach the water. I re-tee, hit my third shot in play, then hook a 6 iron into the bay. Net result was an 8 on a par 4. The other hole, I blocked my 3 wood into a lateral hazard, chipped out, then made a mess for a 7. I finished +9 on the day.
For three of the four rounds, I had really good ballstriking. Never really found a groove on the greens. I really don't like bermuda. There is no such thing as dying the ball into the hole when putting into the grain.[/QUOTE]

It is indeed a dark hour when a player blames his caddie for an errant tee shot.

Don't know why. Maybe just because couldn't find a post more recent than March. And also, because also play in SoonerBS's state of Oklahoma. Well, FINALLY, put together two good rounds in our City Senior Interclub this past weekend. Format two man best ball; lowest 4 teams of 5 count. Played under USGA rules; no gimmes; ball down. Shot 67 on Sat; 70 on Sunday. 4 birdies; one bogey 1st day. Not quite as consistent second day but did make 3 birdies. Our two man team shot 5 under first day, one team bogey; 6 under second day with no team bogeys. Our club came in second overall but we were the best two man team on our club, so I was proud and happy. And also because my partner shot his age for first time ever!!!! 69. That's an accomplishment no matter what!!

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;250159]Had my worst round of the year today. No rhythm, no conentration, no feel. This is a stupid game sometimes. 7 days ago I turned in even par for the front nie, and have done zero since. My game just deserted me. I really believe that scoring is mental, if you can't get your brain into gear and your focus on the job, you can't play well no matter how good your game is tecnique wise.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, hacker.........I truly understand this feeling. Usually it seems to occur, at least to me, when I have played too MUCH golf (is there such a thing?) or rather, a lot in a short stretch of time. Usually, I get rid of it by taking a break from game for a bit; not long; just enough to focus on other interests for a while. Then get back to it; go back to fundamentals, with the emphasis on FUN! As in "not give a sh"ee"t"............and usually it does the trick. Play with different groups; play a different course; play a different game than usual. Anything to change things usually gets me out of that funk!

[QUOTE=famousdavis;250269]It is indeed a dark hour when a player blames his caddie for an errant tee shot.[/QUOTE]

I will always blame the swarthy 55 year old loser caddy whenever possible. It's not like Stevie Williams was guiding my hands out there.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;250274]I will always blame the swarthy 55 year old loser caddy whenever possible. It's not like Stevie Williams was guiding my hands out there.[/QUOTE]

So why couldn't you just hit it straight at the gigantic fairway? That's what the pros do.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;250284]So why couldn't you just hit it straight at the gigantic fairway? That's what the pros do.[/QUOTE]

Jimmy the caddy told me I needed to hit way up the right or else I'd hit it in the water that was well over 300 yards away. I would know, because I got to hit my 6th shot from just short of the water.

I actually liked the dude, and he had a lot of great stories (as do most semi-homeless guys who survive into their mid/late-50's). But, I certainly didn't trust the guy with yardages from the fairway. He was caddying for my entire foursome, and he would call out yardages from 50 yards behind me. On the very first hole he tells me from across the fairway, "Fly the ball 136 yards." I'm standing on a sprinkler head that says 160. I come up well short. Apparently he didn't have any mystical caddy information, like 25 yards short hits a downslope and rolls all the way to that hole location. Just a dude trying to caddy for 4 people at the same time.

Playing in club tournament this weekend. Thought I was playing good, and now I go out and shoot 78, which is absolutely the WORST I could have shot for today. Tomorrow is another day (and second round) but how can you go from playing truly lights out for a couple of weeks to "crap" in one day???? Was only 2 over through 13 and then bogeyed four holes in a row ! Anyway, in my flight, 71, 74, two 76's are in front of me. I know, wide disparity. Anyone have any lucid advice? Other than go get drunk tonight and have a good time tomorrow trying to shoot for pins?

[QUOTE=MJFGolf;250595]Playing in club tournament this weekend. Thought I was playing good, and now I go out and shoot 78, which is absolutely the WORST I could have shot for today. Tomorrow is another day (and second round) but how can you go from playing truly lights out for a couple of weeks to "crap" in one day???? Was only 2 over through 13 and then bogeyed four holes in a row ! Anyway, in my flight, 71, 74, two 76's are in front of me. I know, wide disparity. Anyone have any lucid advice? Other than go get drunk tonight and have a good time tomorrow trying to shoot for pins?[/QUOTE]

Some bad rounds just happen during tournaments.

I went 43 - 34 on Sunday.
I couldn't seem to get into the round throughout the entire front 9. I doubled #1 (maybe the easiest hole on the course) and #3 and was +5 after 3. I also bogied 7, 8 and 9 for no reason at all.
To begin the back, a guy in my foursome who is identical to me in cap (who also shot a bad front) asks if I want to double the bet on the back, with an extra $20 if under par.
This was my first round at the SPCC with the new driver shaft. The new shaft goes straight when hit normal instead of drawing. A few times on the front, I aimed down the right and hit out of position.
For me, the SPCC is so mindless when it comes to club selection, aim, etc. I'll actually have to think a little bit until I get used to the new equipment.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;250719]I went 43 - 34 on Sunday.
I couldn't seem to get into the round throughout the entire front 9. I doubled #1 (maybe the easiest hole on the course) and #3 and was +5 after 3. I also bogied 7, 8 and 9 for no reason at all.
To begin the back, a guy in my foursome who is identical to me in cap (who also shot a bad front) asks if I want to double the bet on the back, with an extra $20 if under par.
This was my first round at the SPCC with the new driver shaft. The new shaft goes straight when hit normal instead of drawing. A few times on the front, I aimed down the right and hit out of position.
For me, the SPCC is so mindless when it comes to club selection, aim, etc. I'll actually have to think a little bit until I get used to the new equipment.[/QUOTE]

How's the distance compared to the old shaft?

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;250726]How's the distance compared to the old shaft?[/QUOTE]

A little better. Definitely has a better ballflight and is less erratic. The driver is now mid-launch and doesn't look to have any issues with ballooning.
The 3 wood and hybrid which are also reshafted are just night and day better than before.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;250728]A little better. Definitely has a better ballflight and is less erratic. The driver is now mid-launch and doesn't look to have any issues with ballooning.
The 3 wood and hybrid which are also reshafted are just night and day better than before.[/QUOTE]

You might find that distance advantage grows as you increasingly trust the shaft and let it go. If you're getting straight balls at this point that's a really good sign.

I've got my member-guest coming up this weekend.
Thursday practice round
Friday 3 nine hole matches
Saturday 2 nine hole matches

12 flights of 6 teams, with flight winners going to a playoff.

It's probably my favorite weekend of the year. Looking to finally make some noise if we get into the playoff. I've made it 2 out of 5 times and failed miserably. We've been eliminated on the first hole both times. Winning the flight pretty much guarantees you win the entrace fee back, plus you'll likely win most of the side bets. Winning the whole thing gets your team on a board and a few grand.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;251398]I've got my member-guest coming up this weekend.
Thursday practice round
Friday 3 nine hole matches
Saturday 2 nine hole matches

12 flights of 6 teams, with flight winners going to a playoff.

It's probably my favorite weekend of the year. Looking to finally make some noise if we get into the playoff. I've made it 2 out of 5 times and failed miserably. We've been eliminated on the first hole both times. Winning the flight pretty much guarantees you win the entrace fee back, plus you'll likely win most of the side bets. Winning the whole thing gets your team on a board and a few grand.[/QUOTE]

Does a team with honest caps have a real chance of winning?

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;251401]Does a team with honest caps have a real chance of winning?[/QUOTE]

Most tournaments have a best ball format where the team member with the lowest score counts for that hole. The best way to achieve equality is to count the scores of both players. I've played in an invitational where they had this format. The middle to high handicappers struggle in these events because of the pressure and the occasional blow up hole(s). The steady players have a much better chance of winning when every stroke counts.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;251406]Most tournaments have a best ball format where the team member with the lowest score counts for that hole. The best way to achieve equality is to count the scores of both players. I've played in an invitational where they had this format. The middle to high handicappers struggle in these events because of the pressure and the occasional blow up hole(s). The steady players have a much better chance of winning when every stroke counts.[/QUOTE]

Best balls used to be really popular over here, but the constant cheating has become too much so team events which mean something are always aggregate events these days. It's a shame cause I liked best ball format, but it was an open invitation to cheats to post ridculous team scores whilst still playing well above their handicaps. I've seen better ball stableford scores of 50 plus with both guys shooting 33 or less in singles.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;251406]Most tournaments have a best ball format where the team member with the lowest score counts for that hole. The best way to achieve equality is to count the scores of both players. I've played in an invitational where they had this format. The middle to high handicappers struggle in these events because of the pressure and the occasional blow up hole(s). The steady players have a much better chance of winning when every stroke counts.[/QUOTE]

It doesn't seem that anyone in the lowest few handicap flights ever wins the whole thing. My partner is one of my best friends, but he's a bit of a chopper. We are in flight 8 out of 12. Our head pro does a pretty good job verifying the guest handicaps, but there are still teams who seem to win their flight a bit too often for fair play.
The real problem becomes the playoff, where it's a true alternate shot. Both players handicaps are totaled then divided by 2. You've got teams that stroke on evey playoff hole, and they are almost guaranteed to survive the first couple holes.
FD, I played in another similar member-guest, where I was the guest, and it was the same format except if the low ball tied, the other player's score was the tie-break. I really didn't like that format. It took way too long to play the matches. Plus, we got smoked.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;251426]It doesn't seem that anyone in the lowest few handicap flights ever wins the whole thing. My partner is one of my best friends, but he's a bit of a chopper. We are in flight 8 out of 12. Our head pro does a pretty good job verifying the guest handicaps, but there are still teams who seem to win their flight a bit too often for fair play.
The real problem becomes the playoff, where it's a true alternate shot. Both players handicaps are totaled then divided by 2. You've got teams that stroke on evey playoff hole, and they are almost guaranteed to survive the first couple holes.
FD, I played in another similar member-guest, where I was the guest, and it was the same format except if the low ball tied, the other player's score was the tie-break. I really didn't like that format. It took way too long to play the matches. Plus, we got smoked.[/QUOTE]


It sounds like you play in the exact same format of invitational that I do once a year. It has flights based on total handicap and then teams within that flight play against each other. At the end, the winning teams of each flight all play against each other in a horse race where teams are eliminated on each hole.

My partner and I were in the first flight and it was pretty neat because I hit a few extremely clutch shots, especially on the 4th hole where we were the only team that didn't get a stroke. I hit it to within 3 feet of the flag on my second shot and then my partner missed the putt. We were tied with 4 teams and had a chip off to see who would be the one team to move on to the final hole. I chipped it to within 2 feet and we went on to join the last three teams on the final hole. We came in second and won around $1,600 in calcutta money. The point is that low handicap teams can make it all the way to the end but both have to bring their A game that day. We've made it to the horse race two other times but never made it past the 4th hole.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;251429]It sounds like you play in the exact same format of invitational that I do once a year. It has flights based on total handicap and then teams within that flight play against each other. At the end, the winning teams of each flight all play against each other in a horse race where teams are eliminated on each hole.

My partner and I were in the first flight and it was pretty neat because I hit a few extremely clutch shots, especially on the 4th hole where we were the only team that didn't get a stroke. I hit it to within 3 feet of the flag on my second shot and then my partner missed the putt. We were tied with 4 teams and had a chip off to see who would be the one team to move on to the final hole. I chipped it to within 2 feet and we went on to join the last three teams on the final hole. We came in second and won around $1,600 in calcutta money. The point is that low handicap teams can make it all the way to the end but both have to bring their A game that day. We've made it to the horse race two other times but never made it past the 4th hole.[/QUOTE]

That's huge to come in second. If yours is anything like mine, you've got everyone in the event following the playoff group in a gallery. Such a cool experience to hit good shots with the whole tourney watching.
When my team won the 2 Man Team Comp last year, we had a growing gallery following the title match from the 10th till we won on the first extra hole. Probably the most fun I've ever had, especially since we came back from being down by 3 after 13. We had three consecutive birdies to tie the match, pushed 17 and 18, then won on #1 with a par.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;251443]That's huge to come in second. If yours is anything like mine, you've got everyone in the event following the playoff group in a gallery. Such a cool experience to hit good shots with the whole tourney watching.
When my team won the 2 Man Team Comp last year, we had a growing gallery following the title match from the 10th till we won on the first extra hole. Probably the most fun I've ever had, especially since we came back from being down by 3 after 13. We had three consecutive birdies to tie the match, pushed 17 and 18, then won on #1 with a par.[/QUOTE]

Yep, everyone was following the event and it was a bigger crowd than normal because finally a low handicap team was in the running to win it all. I would guess there were over 100 people following and watching.

First round of the club annual matchplay event yesterday. Not true match play as it is a handicap event. I had to give my opponent 4 shots. I had a pleasing turn around in form and won 2/1. We played 18 for fun, parred that and I shot 76. (all the conceded putts were tap ins). I was pleased as the form has been a little sketchy lately.
I noticed in the results that a high percentage of the higher handicappers got through. That sucks a little but the only way they can run the event is by handicap. I am the second lowest hanicapper to get through.

[QUOTE=oldplayer;252290]First round of the club annual matchplay event yesterday. Not true match play as it is a handicap event. I had to give my opponent 4 shots. I had a pleasing turn around in form and won 2/1. We played 18 for fun, parred that and I shot 76. (all the conceded putts were tap ins). I was pleased as the form has been a little sketchy lately.
I noticed in the results that a high percentage of the higher handicappers got through. That sucks a little but the only way they can run the event is by handicap. I am the second lowest hanicapper to get through.[/QUOTE]

Congrats OP, well played. Pleased you have found some form. Which sticks were you bagging? The Tourstage?

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;252292]Congrats OP, well played. Pleased you have found some form. Which sticks were you bagging? The Tourstage?[/QUOTE]

No, I have put some more forgiving irons in. Some old be-cu PGF Status TPW. Hit them pretty well. They have some TT TX 90 lightweight steel shafts in them. They have some offset, and are standard size but are pretty well peripherally weighted. The shafts are reg and seem to be easy to hit solid for me. The rest of the bag is as per sig. The G15 is a definate keeper.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;251449]Yep, everyone was following the event and it was a bigger crowd than normal because finally a low handicap team was in the running to win it all. I would guess there were over 100 people following and watching.[/QUOTE]
So there are at least 100 people at your club with no life.

Just got back from golf, shot a 4 over round. Usually I would walk away happy with that score, but I feel empty right to the pit of my stomach. After a 1 under front 9, I parred 10-13 and was in total control. A 3 putt bogie on 14 took meback to even but I steadied the ship with a god par on 15. Then a couple of bad bounces and lip outs and my hpe of a sub par round was gone, another meltdown down the stretch with the goal within reach. Truth be told I probably only played well enugh for a 4 over round, but I got enough good up and downs over the first 15 hles to have a chance of closing it out, but the golfing gods had other plans. 17 really killed me. I hit a beautisul power fade down the right side of the dogleg right, butit inexplicably bounced backwards off an innocuous looking branch (the only one) and put me in trouble. I then 3 putted for a my first double of the day and then chopped it up on the last for a woeful bogie from birdie territory on the drive. Looking back it was the horrible break on 17 which sunk me. I should have handled it better but the thought o having an easy pitch when I saw my drive off the club then being in deep trouble really broke my concentration and I got careless on 18 after another good drive. Golf is such a tough game to stay on top of for 18 holes.

Not an official round, but today I got the MX 560 back after reshafting it with a tipped NV 65 stiff. I had a range session (well about 6 or 7 golf balls) to see how it bhaved with the new shaft. After a couple of looseners I started hitting monster high balls, straight down the pipe. Couldn't really judge distance for sure as they were really high, but hang time was good and the feel off the face was pure. I deliberately really loaded up on the last ball to see if it wold hook, but all I got was a towering draw that flew to at least 240 metres. I'm putting it in the bag this weekend to see how it stacks up dustance wise against the 905R. I can already say that it it hits higher and straighter and is more forgiving, if the distance is what I have a sneaking suspicion it is i.e. longer than than the Titty, it will be makingan extended appearance in the bag.

P.S. I have to say my first impressions of the Pro Launch Red are accurate, they are a junk shaft for my swing. I had my concerns when I read they were based on the Prolite 35 as it was way too much shaft for me. I just coldn't properly load the prolite or the prolaunch red.

The grass hitting area of our range was closed this week during overseeding so I had a couple of sessions on the mats. Today during warm-up the right wrist started squawking. By the fourth hole I couldn't even putt pain free and on seven I couldn't complete a swing. I bunted the ball to complete the hole and then walked off.

Hope I'm not on the sidelines too long. Don't foresee hitting on mats again. Nothing to do but watch college football this afternoon. TP's having to sweat it out against Miami. Less than a minute and Miami could easily tie it up.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;253722]The grass hitting area of our range was closed this week during overseeding so I had a couple of sessions on the mats. Today during warm-up the right wrist started squawking. By the fourth hole I couldn't even putt pain free and on seven I couldn't complete a swing. I bunted the ball to complete the hole and then walked off.

Hope I'm not on the sidelines too long. Don't foresee hitting on mats again. Nothing to do but watch college football this afternoon. TP's having to sweat it out against Miami. Less than a minute and Miami could easily tie it up.[/QUOTE]

Bummer - hope that comes right quickly.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;253724]Bummer - hope that comes right quickly.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, can't think of the last time I was physically unable to play golf. I'm on a first date tonight so I guess I'll play the gentleman. My luck she'll want to go for it.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;253722]The grass hitting area of our range was closed this week during overseeding so I had a couple of sessions on the mats. Today during warm-up the right wrist started squawking. By the fourth hole I couldn't even putt pain free and on seven I couldn't complete a swing. I bunted the ball to complete the hole and then walked off.

Hope I'm not on the sidelines too long. Don't foresee hitting on mats again. Nothing to do but watch college football this afternoon. TP's having to sweat it out against Miami. Less than a minute and Miami could easily tie it up.[/QUOTE]

Had you injured the right wrist previously or did this come about for the first time? I'd stay away from the mats if I were you. Wrist injuries are pretty rare so when it starts bothering you it's a good idea to completely stop for awhile.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;253725]Yeah, can't think of the last time I was physically unable to play golf. I'm on a first date tonight so I guess I'll play the gentleman. My luck she'll want to go for it.[/QUOTE]

If she doesn't give your sore wrist a rest and use your left hand tonight.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;253727]Had you injured the right wrist previously or did this come about for the first time? I'd stay away from the mats if I were you. Wrist injuries are pretty rare so when it starts bothering you it's a good idea to completely stop for awhile.[/QUOTE]

It's balked at me from time to time but I'd never really injured it. Yeah, I agree, I'm shutting it down for now.

[QUOTE=poe4soul;253729]If she doesn't give your sore wrist a rest and use your left hand tonight.[/QUOTE]

I think I can go a couple of days. By then I'll hopefully be able to recruit some help.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;253722]The grass hitting area of our range was closed this week during overseeding so I had a couple of sessions on the mats. Today during warm-up the right wrist started squawking. By the fourth hole I couldn't even putt pain free and on seven I couldn't complete a swing. I bunted the ball to complete the hole and then walked off.

Hope I'm not on the sidelines too long. Don't foresee hitting on mats again. Nothing to do but watch college football this afternoon. TP's having to sweat it out against Miami. Less than a minute and Miami could easily tie it up.[/QUOTE]
Look on the bright side, at least you are coming in to impact hitting down on the ball. I would imagine if it were grass you were making those swings on you would have been taking a divot just in fornt of the ball, which we know is something 99% of good golfers do but 99% of all golfes can't achieve.

Sorry about the wrist Zo. If I hit off the mats, I sometimes hurt the left wrist. Takes about 2 weeks for it to go away.
The SPCC is in tremendous shape. The greens and fairways have fully healed from aeration, and the rough has filled in the patches from the dry summer. Perfect conditions on Friday.
I think I had a decent FOPM round. Probably around 100 - 120. A couple 20 footers and several in the 8-10 range. I think I only missed 1 putt inside of 10 feet.
The good news is that I played the par 4's and 5's in 2 under par. The bad news is that I played the par 3's in 6 over. 3 doubles and a par. Two of the doubles were inexcusable lapses of attention. I had a simple up and down from just in front of the green on #9. I have been doing great with the BnR lately but just bladed the chip into some really bad rough. The other was a 160 yard hole that I just didn't pay attention to the pitch. I hate it when I do that.

[QUOTE=Horseballs;253761]Sorry about the wrist Zo. If I hit off the mats, I sometimes hurt the left wrist. Takes about 2 weeks for it to go away.
The SPCC is in tremendous shape. The greens and fairways have fully healed from aeration, and the rough has filled in the patches from the dry summer. Perfect conditions on Friday.
I think I had a decent FOPM round. Probably around 100 - 120. A couple 20 footers and several in the 8-10 range. I think I only missed 1 putt inside of 10 feet.
The good news is that I played the par 4's and 5's in 2 under par. The bad news is that I played the par 3's in 6 over. 3 doubles and a par. Two of the doubles were inexcusable lapses of attention. I had a simple up and down from just in front of the green on #9. I have been doing great with the BnR lately but just bladed the chip into some really bad rough. The other was a 160 yard hole that I just didn't pay attention to the pitch. I hate it when I do that.[/QUOTE]

When I putt like that it lifts my whole game. That's tough on the doubles. It's annoying to mangle par 3-s because it's either a tee shot into a hazard or two bad shots in a row followed by a failure to recover.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;253765]When I putt like that it lifts my whole game. That's tough on the doubles. It's annoying to mangle par 3-s because it's either a tee shot into a hazard or two bad shots in a row followed by a failure to recover.[/QUOTE]
I think we all regularly look back on rounds and have one or two holes where we have incomrpehensible scores. Last round I had a triple on a par 4 from the middle of the fairway 145 out, and was sitting on the fringe for 3. Taking a big score after a succession of poor shots is one thing, but taking doubles or triples after perfect drives with easy second shots is hard to stomach.

Shot a solid 4 over today. 6 bogies, 2 birdies and 10 pars. It was a par event so I was playing really conservative glf, making sure of the half first, then thinking about a plus if it was on. I played the percentages really well and found that I was rarely in any trouble. The longest putt I had to make the half was less than 6 feet so I was pretty much in play all round. It's the first time I've played a par event and had no minuses on the card. Par events are hated by high handicappers, but I find they force me to use good course management and play the percentages. If you are sitting the middle of the fairway and get a shot on the hole, instead of attacking and bringing touble into play, I take the high percentage shot to the fat of the green and 2 putt for the plus. I think most lower caps score better in par events tha regular stableford.

Shot my best round ever yesterday 81. Not so good off of the T Box but the irons and wedges were dialed in.
Putting was good too. No 3 putts. 1 double bogey, 7 bogeys, 11 pars. If I can get my T shots lined out maybe i can post on sooners threads. :)

I think I'll go play 18 this afternoon. I'm hitting the ball pretty well.

I wish I could play. Golf is the one thing that's guaranteed to hurt my back's recovery...

sigh

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;255223]I [/QUOTE]

You don't expect us to believe that, do you Lorenzo?

[QUOTE]think [/QUOTE]

We've already figured out that you don't.

[QUOTE] I'll go play 18 [/QUOTE]

You can't count to 18 so make sure you carefully follow the cart path.

[QUOTE] this afternoon. [/QUOTE]

What no work? No cooking? What if there isn't enough spaghetti for the weekend?

[QUOTE] I'm[/QUOTE]

It's always about you.

[QUOTE]hitting the ball pretty well. [/QUOTE]

Don't get me started. You couldn't even hit the ground very well when you fall down drunk.

[QUOTE=Not a German;255226]You don't expect us to believe that, do you Lorenzo?



We've already figured out that you don't.



You can't count to 18 so make sure you carefully follow the cart path.



What no work? No cooking? What if there isn't enough spaghetti for the weekend?



It's always about you.



Don't get me started. You couldn't even hit the ground very well when you fall down drunk.[/QUOTE]


You are one tragic loser. You live in the sewer in front of your mother's house. You don't have a job, you just climb out of the sewer and steal food from your mother when you're hungry. You've been banned by every other golf forum. I'll bet your poor mother cries herself to sleep every might.

You sink so low, you resort to name-calling. Stop it, you a.sshole.

[QUOTE=alangbaker;255225]I wish I could play. Golf is the one thing that's guaranteed to hurt my back's recovery...

sigh[/QUOTE]


Sorry, I was rudely interrupted back there. I'm still trying to get over my wrist injury, which at this point is tendinitis.

Shot a very poor 5 over toay. my putting was very ordinary. could easily hav been sub par. should be encouraged that average putting can stil giv me decent score. maybe im going to next level.

Not playing today but I still teed off. One of the guys at our club was killed in a car accident a couple of days ago. Great guy, big personality and young kids. This morning before the first tee time, a crowd of us gathered and, spread throughout an area next to the clubhouse, teed off simultaneously into a nearby lake bed. There had to have been at least 50 of us. He would have loved it.

When I go, instead of something golf related, I'd like my friends to organize simultaneous sex.

I hadn't planned on golfing today, but the weather was amazing so I went to a course called Arroyo Trabuco in South Orange County. Even though it borders urban OC, the course winds through canyons and foothills. By the time you're on the second hole, almost all evidence of human presence is gone and you're left looking at what OC looked like before most of it was bulldozed.

My POS Callaway driver broke apart and is being replaced so today I decided to just play my 3W. I love my 3W. I feel as though I can put a good swing on it and find the fairway every time. My driver gives me a distance advantage of only 10-15 yards. Today I scored really well and realized I'd routinely shoot lower scores with only the 3W in the bag.

But since you're not a real golfer unless you play a driver, the driver will go back into the bag when I get it.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;257626]I hadn't planned on golfing today, but the weather was amazing so I went to a course called Arroyo Trabuco in South Orange County. Even though it borders urban OC, the course winds through canyons and foothills. By the time you're on the second hole, almost all evidence of human presence is gone and you're left looking at what OC looked like before most of it was bulldozed.

My POS Callaway driver broke apart and is being replaced so today I decided to just play my 3W. I love my 3W. I feel as though I can put a good swing on it and find the fairway every time. My driver gives me a distance advantage of only 10-15 yards. Today I scored really well and realized I'd routinely shoot lower scores with only the 3W in the bag.

[B]But since you're not a real golfer unless you play a driver,[/B] the driver will go back into the bag when I get it.[/QUOTE]

You're not a real man either. :D

I played my pussified 3 wood off the tee for half a round on Friday (as I couldn't keep the driver in play) and almost the entire round on Saturday. Midway through the round on Saturday the 3 wood was beginning to produce a couple of errant shots so I pulled the driver on the 9th hole and nailed it sweet just to keep the 3 wood in line.

On Sunday the driver was back on best behaviour and the only time I hit 3 wood I hit it poorly and got in trouble.

I played about 15 holes tonight and hit alternate balls with both and found that if I nailed the 3 wood I too was only giving up about 10-15 yards. I'm playing 4 days of golf this weekend, 6 rounds of golf in 4 days from Thurs - Sun on some pretty tight, challenging tracks in the South Island so it's nice to know I have a solid backup option when the driver goes awry. :cool:

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;257630]You're not a real man either. :D

I played my pussified 3 wood off the tee for half a round on Friday (as I couldn't keep the driver in play) and almost the entire round on Saturday. Midway through the round on Saturday the 3 wood was beginning to produce a couple of errant shots so I pulled the driver on the 9th hole and nailed it sweet just to keep the 3 wood in line.

On Sunday the driver was back on best behaviour and the only time I hit 3 wood I hit it poorly and got in trouble.

I played about 15 holes tonight and hit alternate balls with both and found that if I nailed the 3 wood I too was only giving up about 10-15 yards. I'm playing 4 days of golf this weekend, 6 rounds of golf in 4 days from Thurs - Sun on some pretty tight, challenging tracks in the South Island so it's nice to know I have a solid backup option when the driver goes awry. :cool:[/QUOTE]

I think that's the right way to look at it. Most of us play on courses less than 7,000 yards. If you get 265+ with the 3W then unless the driver's working it doesn't make sense to play driver.

Ok....uh huh......yowza!!! I'm gonna brag because it was 56* today and I finally broke 80. Shot a career best 78! Man, I am so stoked. I bought rounds of Blue Moons for everyone afterwards(the foursome).
I was hitting fairways and greens like I never did before. Probably be another couple years until I do it again, but who cares!
Beginning of December and it's 56*!!!!! We had our first blizzard last year this time.

56. 66. 76. 96. 106. Don't matter. You busted a milestone with three witnesses. Congratulations. Do it once, do it again. Next time it will be easier if you don't set your own bar higher and put more pressure on yourself.

[QUOTE=jmtbkr;257900]Ok....uh huh......yowza!!! I'm gonna brag because it was 56* today and I finally broke 80. Shot a career best 78! Man, I am so stoked. I bought rounds of Blue Moons for everyone afterwards(the foursome).
I was hitting fairways and greens like I never did before. Probably be another couple years until I do it again, but who cares!
Beginning of December and it's 56*!!!!! We had our first blizzard last year this time.[/QUOTE]

Congrats! You did tell the boys that you will buy this time, but for now on they would be paying for all the beer with the money you win off of them, didn't you?

We're getting what for our area is a really chilly cold season. Two and a half hour frost delay yesterday, two hours today but still warming to the 60-s. Green speeds take off when it's like this.

I am now going into my third day of no golf due to wind chill warnings, highs only reaching the low 30s and this morning, with the temps in the teens, the greens have frozen. Maybe tomorrow . . . . . .

[QUOTE=SoonerBS;258094]I am now going into my third day of no golf due to wind chill warnings, highs only reaching the low 30s and this morning, with the temps in the teens, the greens have frozen. Maybe tomorrow . . . . . .[/QUOTE]


Maybe you could shovel some snow with those Mizuno JPX-800 irons you've been playing.

[QUOTE=SoonerBS;258094]I am now going into my third day of no golf due to wind chill warnings, highs only reaching the low 30s and this morning, with the temps in the teens, the greens have frozen. Maybe tomorrow . . . . . .[/QUOTE]

Whoa, dude, that's so gnarly. Can't you like leave and go somewhere else?

Played yesterday in beautiful conditions. Warm and sunny with a light breeze. Shot 2 under around the front, it was club comp day and I thought here we go. Had 4 three putt greens around the back and a couple of loose iron shots ended up shooting 77. I hate that.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc;258102]Whoa, dude, that's so gnarly. Can't you like leave and go somewhere else?[/QUOTE]

Hope is on the horizon as tomorrow starts a week worth of temps back in the 50s.

Just got back from my morning round. Shot a 1 over, which is my equal best score. Had a chance of even par but bogeyed the last after spinning my approach 10 feet back off the green and failing to get up and down. All in all I can pinpoint 3 things hich I did better than usual today. I drove the ball almost as well as I can remember. I hit lots of pretty decent chips, and I putted well from inside 10 feet. I was hitting the sweetspot on every shot but I can't say my irons were great. They were all pretty much the right distance but the radar was out and I missed loads of greens right (only hit 7 GIR). I was just missing them though which made the up and downs much easier. Looking back I probably shot a better score than my ball striking (with the irons) suggested. I left maybe one shot out there when I missed a tiddler, but more than made up for it with clutch putts in the 6-10 feet range and up and downs from everywhere. As much as I feel like I missed a golden opportunity to go under par, I've gotta be happy with that score after hitting only 7 greens in reg.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;258761]Just got back from my morning round. Shot a 1 over, which is my equal best score. Had a chance of even par but bogeyed the last after spinning my approach 10 feet back off the green and failing to get up and down. All in all I can pinpoint 3 things hich I did better than usual today. I drove the ball almost as well as I can remember. I hit lots of pretty decent chips, and I putted well from inside 10 feet. I was hitting the sweetspot on every shot but I can't say my irons were great. They were all pretty much the right distance but the radar was out and I missed loads of greens right (only hit 7 GIR). I was just missing them though which made the up and downs much easier. Looking back I probably shot a better score than my ball striking (with the irons) suggested. I left maybe one shot out there when I missed a tiddler, but more than made up for it with clutch putts in the 6-10 feet range and up and downs from everywhere. As much as I feel like I missed a golden opportunity to go under par, I've gotta be happy with that score after hitting only 7 greens in reg.[/QUOTE]

Very nice. Nothing better than to have a round like this and feel like you have your game under control.

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[QUOTE=SoonerBS;258787]Very nice. Nothing better than to have a round like this and feel like you have your game under control.

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The good thing for me is that there is room for improvement. I could hit my irons a lot straighter than yesterday and give myself more birdie chances. But on the other side, I got some lucky breaks on my few errant tee shots and could have easily turned my score into a 4 or 5 over with a couple of bad bounces. I also putted unbelievably from that crucial 5 to 10 foot range. I only had 27 putts and made 9 of 13 putts from outside 6 feet (5 of them were outside 10 feet), so I can't expect to putt like that every round. I'm hoping it wasn't a one off lightning strike, and hat I can start consistently shooting in the par to 4 or 5 over range at my home course. If I can do that it would probably equate to breaking 80 regularly on championship courses, which IMO is the mark of a good golfer.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;258761]Just got back from my morning round. Shot a 1 over, which is my equal best score. Had a chance of even par but bogeyed the last after spinning my approach 10 feet back off the green and failing to get up and down. All in all I can pinpoint 3 things hich I did better than usual today. I drove the ball almost as well as I can remember. I hit lots of pretty decent chips, and I putted well from inside 10 feet. I was hitting the sweetspot on every shot but I can't say my irons were great. They were all pretty much the right distance but the radar was out and I missed loads of greens right (only hit 7 GIR). I was just missing them though which made the up and downs much easier. Looking back I probably shot a better score than my ball striking (with the irons) suggested. I left maybe one shot out there when I missed a tiddler, but more than made up for it with clutch putts in the 6-10 feet range and up and downs from everywhere. As much as I feel like I missed a golden opportunity to go under par, I've gotta be happy with that score after hitting only 7 greens in reg.[/QUOTE]


nice buddy,Did almost the same today,rounds of 74 and 75,But if I were to guess I threw 10 shots away on each round,on the 74 I made 4 birdies for the day,But lost a ball during a swing where non of my playing partners saw the ball even leave the club,And on the 75 an eagle and 3 birdies but accidently hit a ball on a practise swing OB.lol.atleast the scores showing up makes one feel better.Now only to start working on not making those stupid mistakes.

[QUOTE=Fluffy;258840]nice buddy,Did almost the same today,rounds of 74 and 75,But if I were to guess I threw 10 shots away on each round,on the 74 I made 4 birdies for the day,But lost a ball during a swing where non of my playing partners saw the ball even leave the club,And on the 75 an eagle and 3 birdies but accidently hit a ball on a practise swing OB.lol.atleast the scores showing up makes one feel better.Now only to start working on not making those stupid mistakes.[/QUOTE]
Not exactly sure of the rules but you may have diddled yourself on the practice swing OB. I know if you hit your ball on a practice swing on the tee it doesn't count as a stroke as your ball isn't in play until you make a swing intending to hit the ball (we have all hit it off the tee with a waggle and replaced it without penalty), but not sure what the rule is when it's in play on the fairway (never happened to me during a round as my practice swings are nowhere near the ball and I am very conscious of the waggle on the fairway).

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;258761]Just got back from my morning round. Shot a 1 over, which is my equal best score. Had a chance of even par but bogeyed the last after spinning my approach 10 feet back off the green and failing to get up and down. All in all I can pinpoint 3 things hich I did better than usual today. I drove the ball almost as well as I can remember. I hit lots of pretty decent chips, and I putted well from inside 10 feet. I was hitting the sweetspot on every shot but I can't say my irons were great. They were all pretty much the right distance but the radar was out and I missed loads of greens right (only hit 7 GIR). I was just missing them though which made the up and downs much easier. Looking back I probably shot a better score than my ball striking (with the irons) suggested. I left maybe one shot out there when I missed a tiddler, but more than made up for it with clutch putts in the 6-10 feet range and up and downs from everywhere. As much as I feel like I missed a golden opportunity to go under par, I've gotta be happy with that score after hitting only 7 greens in reg.[/QUOTE]

Please provide the following information in regard to the course where you shot 1 over par:

1) Length in yards

2) Slope rating

3) Par eg: 72, 71?

If it was a Par 71 or 72 type course with a yardage of at least 6,100 yards then that's a great score. Good job. Pretty soon you'll be good enough to last 14 holes with me before losing.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;258863]Please provide the following information in regard to the course where you shot 1 over par:

1) Length in yards

2) Slope rating

3) Par eg: 72, 71?

If it was a Par 71 or 72 type course with a yardage of at least 6,100 yards then that's a great score. Good job. Pretty soon you'll be good enough to last 14 holes with me before losing.[/QUOTE]

Don't go bursting NAH's bubble. When he provides the number of shots over par vs the actual score you know he is talking about his short knocking, 9 hole, goat track home course where you play the same 9 twice and par is something like 64 or 66.

Don't go asking these difficult questions and breaking his personal hubris.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;258863]Please provide the following information in regard to the course where you shot 1 over par:

1) Length in yards

2) Slope rating

3) Par eg: 72, 71?

If it was a Par 71 or 72 type course with a yardage of at least 6,100 yards then that's a great score. Good job. Pretty soon you'll be good enough to last 14 holes with me before losing.[/QUOTE]

I have already qualified that my 1 over would equate to high 70s at a championship course numb nuts. Its a par 69 of about 5700 or so yards. Mostly short to medium par 4s. Doesnt matter how easy it is you still need to get the ball in the hole. For the record my lowest score on a championship course (6100 metres) is 5 over 77.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;258887]I have already qualified that my 1 over would equate to high 70s at a championship course numb nuts. Its a par 69 of about 5700 or so yards. Mostly short to medium par 4s. Doesnt matter how easy it is you still need to get the ball in the hole. For the record my lowest score on a championship course (6100 metres) is 5 over 77.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I thought you would have moved beyond that goat track by now. Good score though. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=famousdavis;258893]Sorry, I thought you would have moved beyond that goat track by now. Good score though. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

You are confusing my current course witb the previous goat track which was 9 holes par 62. My new course is still easy but much closer to a golf course than the old one. Its short but quite wide in the fairways so open to bomb and gouge.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;258912]You are confusing my current course witb the previous goat track which was 9 holes par 62. My new course is still easy but much closer to a golf course than the old one. Its short but quite wide in the fairways so open to bomb and gouge.[/QUOTE]

I'm playing a pretty easy course tomorrow, Par 71 at around 6,100 yards. I can't wait to put my Vokey Spin Milled wedges into play again. I'll be using the Titleist 990 irons as well with my Odyssey DFX Center-Shaft 2 ball.

[QUOTE=famousdavis;258913]I'm playing a pretty easy course tomorrow, Par 71 at around 6,100 yards. I can't wait to put my Vokey Spin Milled wedges into play again. I'll be using the Titleist 990 irons as well with my Odyssey DFX Center-Shaft 2 ball.[/QUOTE]
I'll be interested to hear how the new cally prototype ball you were talking about goes. I know someone here who has used them and he said they don't feel great but are the best performing ball ever made. Big call, I want more information.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;258931]I'll be interested to hear how the new cally prototype ball you were talking about goes. [B]I know someone here who has used them and he said they are the best performing ball ever made[/B]. Big call, I want more information.[/QUOTE]

Did it knock 4 strokes off their cap? That's the real litmus test.

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player;258934]Did it knock 4 strokes off their cap? That's the real litmus test.[/QUOTE]

Is it possible any piece of eqipment could knock 4 strokes off your cap? And what is the time limit for the strokes to come off to be legit?

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;258938]Is it possible any piece of eqipment could knock 4 strokes off your cap? And [B]what is the time limit for the strokes to come off to be legit?[/B][/QUOTE]

From the time you change to that new piece of equipment until you change to something else.

For example let's take a new set of irons for someone like say Horseballs. He'd have up to about 5 years to drop those 4 strokes. For someone like Famousdavis on the other hand he'd have to carve those 4 strokes off within about a week and a half. :D

[QUOTE=Not a hacker;258938]Is it possible any piece of eqipment could knock 4 strokes off your cap? And what is the time limit for the strokes to come off to be legit?[/QUOTE]

In 2008 I bought my first set of Mizuno irons (MP-52s). I went from golfing in low 90s to mid 80s. Six months later I was golfing with the MP-67s and 33s and dropped my scores into the low 80s.

Yes, Virginia, it is possible for golf equipment to drop strokes off your game.

Sorry, I forgot to put the Callaway Hex Chrome into play. I did play with the Taylormade 320 irons and hit some great shots with them. The Titleist Vokeys however were a big disappointment. Actually, it's not so much that they were Titleist as much as the type of wedge they are. I seem to do better with the Ping Eye 2 wedges. In fact, I need to quit this nonsense of trying out new clubs all the time and just stick with the Eye 2s. I haven't found any other iron to perform any better so I might as well use what I'm comfortable with and what feels the best to me.

I tried an Odyssey Two-Ball DFX putter today and missed a bunch of birdie putts. I shot 77 but I gave up so many shots with my wedges. I'd be 100 yards out and hit it over the green or into a trap. Just pathetic.

Another strange thing...I used my 3 wood for most of the round today and I hit it basically to the same spots as my driver. I think I'm going to get a smaller headed driver with a shorter shaft. Maybe the Titleist 909 D3 or even a Callaway Steelhead III.

Had a pretty dull 5 over today. I'm starting to think my game may have reached the next level, I felt like I had control of all parts of my score was as bad as I could have shot. I had one chip in for birdie from off the green, but in general my chips were a little strong all day and I didn't quite sink the puts in the 6-10 feet range that I did the other day. I feel good about my game and can see my cap dropping further into single figures over the summer months. I'm now looking forward to the new year as my lower cap will allow me entry into open amateur tournaments (allbeit the lesser events that arent restricted to low markers).

I went out today in temps in the low 40s, but there was absolutely no wind which is a rarity here in Oklahoma. I ended up golfing a 78 and never had a birdie.

85* and sunny today. Acturall, it was a bit humid as there wasn't much of a breeze, until the back nine.

So, being a new resident, I asked at the clubhouse for a free round (with lunch) to try out the course too see if I would be interested in joining. It was fantastic, to say the least. Perfect course conditions, amazingly fast greens - they said they stimped at 11-12 - expect them to get faster nearing the Honda. So We come around the corner to the 15th and you are met with this:
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just a bit imtimidating!!! I lost 3 balls in 3 holes. AAA's V1x's.
Not going to post my score, but I was seriously humbled.
The clubhouse at lunch< had a strange feeling I was at Bushwood. Lots of Haveshams' walking the place.
I guess I'm not a countryclub type.

[QUOTE=SoonerBS;259246]I went out today in temps in the low 40s, but there was absolutely no wind which is a rarity here in Oklahoma. I ended up golfing a 78 and never had a birdie.[/QUOTE]

I played this morning. It was cold at first but by the 5th hole I was in shorts and a short sleeve shirt. It was an absolutely perfect day. I played the whole round without hitting driver once and left myself with easy shots to the green. A strange thing happened...my ball went into a tree and got stuck in there. I was even par before that and then took a double. I've got the Ping Eye 2s in the bag again. Don't know why I ever take them out.