mp57 vs mp60

ok guys you say i need a set of forged cbs and i have a chance to buy either one of these at a great price.i need some info on them,which hits the ball higher?I have heard different reviews and hope to get some info i can trust.thanks for the help.

My clubfitter, who I consider to be pretty credible, says the 57-s are more forgiving and have a slightly higher ball flight than the 60-s. In general, he has very positive things to say about them. I used to play the 60-s and loved them but have never hit the 57-s. What kind of price are we talking about and can you get them with your fitting specs, desired shaft, etc.?

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]My clubfitter, who I consider to be pretty credible, says the 57-s are more forgiving and have a slightly higher ball flight than the 60-s. In general, he has very positive things to say about them. I used to play the 60-s and loved them but have never hit the 57-s. What kind of price are we talking about and can you get them with your fitting specs, desired shaft, etc.?[/QUOTE]
yes i can. a pro fitter that i used to work for has a set that all i have to pay for is the shafts and the shipping. the whole set should cost me about 250 w project x shafts.
if the 60s have a lower ball flight thats what im going with. thanks lorenzo

[QUOTE=DENNIS7180GOLF]yes i can. a pro fitter that i used to work for has a set that all i have to pay for is the shafts and the shipping. the whole set should cost me about 250 w project x shafts.
if the 60s have a lower ball flight thats what im going with. thanks lorenzo[/QUOTE]

I loved the 60-s. At that price, how could you go wrong? If you don't like them BJ will buy them and sell them to his dad after a couple of weeks.

Hope they work out well.

[QUOTE=DENNIS7180GOLF]yes i can. a pro fitter that i used to work for has a set that all i have to pay for is the shafts and the shipping. the whole set should cost me about 250 w project x shafts.
if the 60s have a lower ball flight thats what im going with. thanks lorenzo[/QUOTE]If you can get both sets and care to make a little profit on the 57s, I would buy them from you. PM me if you're interested.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]I loved the 60-s. At that price, how could you go wrong? If you don't like them BJ will buy them and sell them to his dad after a couple of weeks.

Hope they work out well.[/QUOTE]

Nah, dad won't play Mizuno, he's held a grudge ever since Pearl Harbor...

I had played Mizuno T Zoids for over 12 years. I loved these clubs and swore I would never play any other, I shot my best round of 73 with them. But I wore off the grooves and ordered to my specs a set of MP 60's "I hated them". They did not have that buttery feel on impact.
I shopped and hit around and chose a set of Ping S 58's they felt so much like my forged T Zoids. It was scary that an investment cast could feel so good. I can work the ball any which way. So I now am a Ping man. I never hit the 57's they were not around, but they sure look just like the 60's..... Good Luck, Jack

Man I hate you Americans sometimes. Geting a set of custom built MP60's for 250!!! The best pirce I could possibly do here is on ebay for about 850. And they are the ones from American sellers. I wouldn't buy them even if I had the money now that I know how much those greedy US sellers are jacking the prices up for Aussies.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]Man I hate you Americans sometimes. Geting a set of custom built MP60's for 250!!! The best pirce I could possibly do here is on ebay for about 850. And they are the ones from American sellers. I wouldn't buy them even if I had the money now that I know how much those greedy US sellers are jacking the prices up for Aussies.[/QUOTE]
hey wait a second. these are only that cheap because they are his old clubs and he is a good friend of mine who knows how to build clubs.
basically he is giving me the heads and im paying for new shafts.
he will build them for nothing as a favor to me.
dont be so quick to judge anybody without knowing all the facts.

[QUOTE=DENNIS7180GOLF]hey wait a second. these are only that cheap because they are his old clubs and he is a good friend of mine who knows how to build clubs.
basically he is giving me the heads and im paying for new shafts.
he will build them for nothing as a favor to me.
dont be so quick to judge anybody without knowing all the facts.[/QUOTE]
That makes more sense. I thought from your posts you were getting a new set made up. Now I can go back to fantasising about one day convincing the bank manager (fiancee) to release the funds for a set of Mizuno's.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]That makes more sense. I thought from your posts you were getting a new set made up. Now I can go back to fantasising about one day convincing the bank manager (fiancee) to release the funds for a set of Mizuno's.[/QUOTE]

I hope you get em NaH, you deserve them. You'll be GRAIN FLOW FORGED for life.

Actually my MX20's are technically grain flow forged, but I know what you mean. It only really refers to the MP series.

If I were to play Mizzy's the 57 would be my choice, as they are pretty much the same as my 690cb's, but they are too $$$ for my taste. I like my Titty's.

so you getting the 57s Slot?

I played both and they hit the ball too high for me in the short irons. If I went for Muzzy's I would either buy the 32's or mix a set up with the 32's in the mids and shorts and the 57 or 60's in the long irons. All I know is the project X shafts would be in any club I buy. I love those shafts.

I honestly thought the 57's were just repackaged 60's. Sort of like how Ping keeps coming up with new numbers for the same clubs. The only difference cosmetically is that the "cut muscle" is a bit higher on the face.
And Dennis, what the hell happened to your AP2's? I thought those were your new messiah.

[QUOTE=Horseballs]I honestly thought the 57's were just repackaged 60's. Sort of like how Ping keeps coming up with new numbers for the same clubs. The only difference cosmetically is that the "cut muscle" is a bit higher on the face.
And Dennis, what the hell happened to your AP2's? I thought those were your new messiah.[/QUOTE]
AP1s and ive always played a forged whatever from titty 755 to mp 32s but i have been reworking my entire swing so i thought i would go to an easy iron while learning my new swing.things are coming along better than i thought they would though so its time to go back.
besides, you know ill argue about anything !!!!

I have MP 32's and was told by a club fitter last week that if I wanted to lower my ball flight from them I should go with the MP 57's. I have not hit them though.

[QUOTE=Horseballs]I honestly thought the 57's were just repackaged 60's. Sort of like how Ping keeps coming up with new numbers for the same clubs. The only difference cosmetically is that the "cut muscle" is a bit higher on the face.
And Dennis, what the hell happened to your AP2's? I thought those were your new messiah.[/QUOTE]
I went by the local Golfsmith and looked at both the MP 60's and the MP 57's, and they looked surprisingly similar. I was expecting the MP 57's to have a bit deeper cavity back. I didn't hit either, so I can't compare that aspect, however. But on appearance alone, the differences were less than I had anticipated.

[QUOTE=twotime]I have MP 32's and was told by a club fitter last week that if I wanted to lower my ball flight from them I should go with the MP 57's. I have not hit them though.[/QUOTE]
Frankly, that seems just a bit counter-intuitive. I would have expected the MP 32's to hit lower.

bj if you are going to play mizzy why not put the best irons they ever made back in your bag: they should be right there in your garage among the 20 odd other sets you have. you can spot them easily they are the ones that say MP 33 on them.

NAH instead of going after the new pretty mizzy's why not snag a set of 33's: trust me the 57's or 67's are not going to be any better than those.

hell buy BJ's from him he's not using them anyway.

Omen.

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[QUOTE=Omen2]bj if you are going to play mizzy why not put the best irons they ever made back in your bag: they should be right there in your garage among the 20 odd other sets you have. you can spot them easily they are the ones that say MP 33 on them.

NAH instead of going after the new pretty mizzy's why not snag a set of 33's: trust me the 57's or 67's are not going to be any better than those.

hell buy BJ's from him he's not using them anyway.

Omen.

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I sold them on ebay about 2 years ago. Ironically, they only had 2 bidders on them.

you bastard....

I thought you put them back in the bag just a few months ago?

Omen

thanks for all the advice but ive changed my mind.
im going with the ping s58s. i hit them last night and they feel incredible.anyone w any info on these please let me know.

Dennis likes the feel of PINGs over Mizunos. How ya like that Omen!!

[QUOTE=bjdrivers]Dennis likes the feel of PINGs over Mizunos. How ya like that Omen!![/QUOTE]
have you ever hit them bj?

You can't get stuck with any particular brand. I was at a demo day a few weeks ago and tried just about every brand, Mizunos were my least favorite. Surprisingly the irons I liked the best were the MacGregor Pro Ms. The ones I tried were a sick gun metal finish. Second best were the Cleveland CGTours.

[QUOTE=SDB1]You can't get stuck with any particular brand. I was at a demo day a few weeks ago and tried just about every brand, Mizunos were my least favorite. Surprisingly the irons I liked the best were the MacGregor Pro Ms. The ones I tried were a sick gun metal finish. Second best were the Cleveland CGTours.[/QUOTE]
yes you are right. i have hit every major club maker and they all have good and bad points.
i have owned
mx25,mp32,titty755,ap1,cobras9,cobrass,lemiforged cb, cleveland ta3,topflight tours,cally x20 tour,cally fusion and soon to add to the list ping s58

[QUOTE=DENNIS7180GOLF]yes you are right. i have hit every major club maker and they all have good and bad points.
i have owned
mx25,mp32,titty755,ap1,cobras9,cobrass,lemiforged cb, cleveland ta3,topflight tours,cally x20 tour,cally fusion and soon to add to the list ping s58[/QUOTE]
Wow Dennis. That is a ton of equipment!
I have been playing golf for about 15 years and I've had 4 sets, which I think is a lot.
My dad's Spaulding blades
Titleist DCI O+
KZG Forged II's
Mizuno MP 32's

[QUOTE=Horseballs]Wow Dennis. That is a ton of equipment!
I have been playing golf for about 15 years and I've had 4 sets, which I think is a lot.
My dad's Spaulding blades
Titleist DCI O+
KZG Forged II's
Mizuno MP 32's[/QUOTE]
HB thats not all i have had but my memory is not what it used to be.
i dont even want to talk about drivers !!!!!!

[QUOTE=DENNIS7180GOLF]HB thats not all i have had but my memory is not what it used to be.
i dont even want to talk about drivers !!!!!![/QUOTE]
Drivers...
Something made of wood
Titleist Howitzer
Goldwin AVP
Taylor Made Firesole
Callaway Steelhead III
Cleveland Quadpro
Ping G2
2 versions of KZG Gemini
Taylor Made Burner

I may be missing one from the early days.

[QUOTE=Horseballs]Drivers...
Something made of wood
Titleist Howitzer
Goldwin AVP
Taylor Made Firesole
Callaway Steelhead III
Cleveland Quadpro
Ping G2
2 versions of KZG Gemini
Taylor Made Burner

I may be missing one from the early days.[/QUOTE]
Hibore and xl and xls, cobra ld,ping rapture, burner, and r7 425 which i use now.
i still have the rapture and the xl. all of these were bought since jan. 08.
yes i am slightly retarded !!!!

Drivers last 7-8 years:

Taylor Made 360 (damn that thing looked big when I got it)
Great Big Bertha II
Titleist 983K
Ping G2
Titleist 905T
Titleist 905R
Titleist D2

On average, 2 shafts per driver.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]Drivers last 7-8 years:

Taylor Made 360 (damn that thing looked big when I got it)
Great Big Bertha II
Titleist 983K
Ping G2
Titleist 905T
Titleist 905R
Titleist D2

On average, 2 shafts per driver.[/QUOTE]
Damn, how could I forget about the GBB II? That was my all time favorite driver.

HB i still have titleist howitzer in storage... i should pull that out and play a round with it.

DENNIS we all knew you were retarded when you choose pings over mizzys

best of luck to all

Omen

[QUOTE=DENNIS7180GOLF]have you ever hit them bj?[/QUOTE]

No but I hit the i10's. sic irons!

[QUOTE=bjdrivers]No but I hit the i10's. sic irons![/QUOTE]
well i cant imagine they feel much better than the 58s,cuz they are sweet!!

[QUOTE=DENNIS7180GOLF]well i cant imagine they feel much better than the 58s,cuz they are sweet!![/QUOTE]

The 58-s are nice sticks. I've demoed them and play with someone frequently who has them. They would be on my short list. Enjoy.

I spoke with my friend last night,he should be ordering the s58s today !!!!!!!!

How much $ did you drop for them? How long did you have the APs?

[QUOTE=bjdrivers]How much $ did you drop for them? How long did you have the APs?[/QUOTE]
i dont have price yet.i picked up ap1s on 4-11-08 thats about as long as i keep irons.just kidding.i dont know what im going to do w them maybe ebay them.i paid 1032.00 for them because of the project x shafts and hope i can get at least 700.00 we will see.

[QUOTE=DENNIS7180GOLF]i dont have price yet.i picked up ap1s on 4-11-08 thats about as long as i keep irons.just kidding.i dont know what im going to do w them maybe ebay them.i paid 1032.00 for them because of the project x shafts and hope i can get at least 700.00 we will see.[/QUOTE]

Holy $@#$@%$!#!

I got my 690cbs on fleabay in good condition with new tour velvets for $152 shipped lol.

[QUOTE=dorkman53]Frankly, that seems just a bit counter-intuitive. I would have expected the MP 32's to hit lower.[/QUOTE]

He said the 57's have a slightly thicker top line then the 32's and thus more weight higher on the face. I did not hit them but I can tell you that I hit the 32's exceptionally high.

The club fitter was at Pinehurst so I would expect that he knows what he is talking about.

[QUOTE=twotime]He said the 57's have a slightly thicker top line then the 32's and thus more weight higher on the face. I did not hit them but I can tell you that I hit the 32's exceptionally high.

The club fitter was at Pinehurst so I would expect that he knows what he is talking about.[/QUOTE]

Oh yes, clubfitters at resorts always are top notch. Particularly the ones that have been there a full week.

The 32-s are a mid trajectory club except in the long irons where they are mid/high. The 57-s are designed with more weight low in the cavity to add forgiveness and raise the ball flight.

[QUOTE=DENNIS7180GOLF]thanks for all the advice but ive changed my mind.
im going with the ping s58s. i hit them last night and they feel incredible.anyone w any info on these please let me know.[/QUOTE]



A Ping iron over a Mizuno iron... I just threw up a little in my mouth.

The new "old" guy had the winner picked all along ! ... good luck dennis you will love them !

Sounds like a great selection.

I finally pulled the trigger this morning on the T-Zoid Pro II's I've had my eye on for a while. I got a swap for my MX20's plus I threw in an old putter I had lying around gathering dust. They are exactly my specs so they should be right to go. They felt awesome in the net, and I will get a chance to have a hit with them tomorrow. They have a small cavity but look more blade-like than the 57's or 60's, and feel heaps better than the T-Zoid Pro's, which were probably the worst players iron Mizuno has ever brought out.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]I finally pulled the trigger this morning on the T-Zoid Pro II's I've had my eye on for a while. I got a swap for my MX20's plus I threw in an old putter I had lying around gathering dust. They are exactly my specs so they should be right to go. They felt awesome in the net, and I will get a chance to have a hit with them tomorrow. They have a small cavity but look more blade-like than the 57's or 60's, and feel heaps better than the T-Zoid Pro's, which were probably the worst players iron Mizuno has ever brought out.[/QUOTE]
congrats! hope they serve you well. i have never hit them but they look like fine sticks.

A friend of mine plays them, he loves them. Nice looking sticks, have fun with them.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]Oh yes, clubfitters at resorts always are top notch. Particularly the ones that have been there a full week.

The 32-s are a mid trajectory club except in the long irons where they are mid/high. The 57-s are designed with more weight low in the cavity to add forgiveness and raise the ball flight.[/QUOTE]

Mizuno web site says the 57's short irons will have a mid ball flight. The 32's short irons are high flight.

Where did you read that?
From this page on the [URL="http://www.mizunousa.com/equipment.nsf/AllProduct/5C96E4DC570EBE418525706F00667DBE?opendocument&div=golf&cat=irons"]MP 32's[/URL]
[I]
These features deliver an extremely controllable and predictable ball flight, producing a mid-high trajectory in long irons and a mid trajectory in the scoring irons. [/I]

And from the
[URL="http://www.mizunousa.com/equipment.nsf/AllProduct/2A1F28A6E4D6C9B28525733E006C7115?opendocument&div=golf&cat=irons"]MP57's[/URL]
[I]Along with increased forgiveness, the MP-57's produce a slightly higher ball flight in the long irons, and a mid trajectory in the scoring irons.[/I]

Based typical CB design the 32's should have better trajectory control.

[QUOTE=DENNIS7180GOLF]congrats! hope they serve you well. i have never hit them but they look like fine sticks.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Dennis (and Lorenzo).
I just played a round this morning with them and they felt and performed great, but I was reminded of a few facts about playing blade-like clubs (I will refer to them as blades for arguments sake). At risk of re-igniting the blae vs GI debate, the things I noticed today are
1. Blades will go exactly where your swing and impact position says they should go. I noticed a considerable amount of right and left movement that would have been supressed by my MX20's.
2. There is a bigger loss of distance with poorly struck shots, but not as much as non blade players claim. I also noticed I was about half a club shorter with these most of the time, but I put that down to weaker lofts and stiffer shafts.
3. The ball flight and feel was heaps beter than my old set. When I pured them they felt awesome. The feeling of control was much higher with these too. They are precision instruments.
4. You get what you put in. I hit more really bad shots today than with the GII clubs, but I also hit heaps more pure golf shots than I normally would in a round too.
5. They have already had a game improvement affect on my game. In the nets beforehitting off I was swinging what I thought was ok but getting jarring through the hands. After trial and error, I found that when I concentrated on weight transfer and keeping my head behind the ball at impact the feel was pure. These clubs tell me when I'm swinging correctly or sh!te.

Overall it was an enjoyable experience. I think I have probably taken one step back to take two steps forward. But I hit enough good shots to know that improvement will definitely come. I know as my game comes back these will allow me to do things that I simply couldn't do with GI clubs.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker] There is a bigger loss of distance with poorly struck shots, but not as much as non blade players claim. I also noticed I was about half a club shorter with these most of the time, but I put that down to weaker lofts and stiffer shafts.

They have already had a game improvement affect on my game. In the nets beforehitting off I was swinging what I thought was ok but getting jarring through the hands. After trial and error, I found that when I concentrated on weight transfer and keeping my head behind the ball at impact the feel was pure. These clubs tell me when I'm swinging correctly or sh!te.

Overall it was an enjoyable experience. I think I have probably taken one step back to take two steps forward. But I hit enough good shots to know that improvement will definitely come. I know as my game comes back these will allow me to do things that I simply couldn't do with GI clubs.[/QUOTE]

If your experience is similar to mine, the distance penalty will evaporate as you adapt to the clubs, and benefit from the game improvement aspect, which sounds like blade propaganda, but it was certainly true for me.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]If your experience is similar to mine, the distance penalty will evaporate as you adapt to the clubs, and benefit from the game improvement aspect, which sounds like blade propaganda, but it was certainly true for me.[/QUOTE]
I hope you're right, but those MX20's were ridiculously long clubs. But I can already feel my ball striking improving. These clubs are forcing me to hit down on the back of the ball with descending blow and catch the ball first, followed by a shallow divot. Before I could get away with sweeping shots and imprecise contact soi I got sloppy. I definitely agree that blades will improve your game. I think the term 'game improvement' for irons should be changed to 'score improvement for guys who don't care about how they hit the ball'.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]I hope you're right, but those MX20's were ridiculously long clubs. But I can already feel my ball striking improving. These clubs are forcing me to hit down on the back of the ball with descending blow and catch the ball first, followed by a shallow divot. Before I could get away with sweeping shots and imprecise contact soi I got sloppy. I definitely agree that blades will improve your game. I think the term 'game improvement' for irons should be changed to 'score improvement for guys who don't care about how they hit the ball'.[/QUOTE]

I can remember feeling a little let down after I first put my 32-s in play, followed by elation as my technique improved. My previous, game improvement clubs didn't mind being hit a groove or two low, or a sweeping hit. The 32-s penalize you for that. But at this point I get better results with the 32-s than I ever did with my GI clubs, and now I'm planning on the 67-s. The thought of going with 67-s when I was playing GI would have been ridiculous.

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]I can remember feeling a little let down after I first put my 32-s in play, followed by elation as my technique improved. My previous, game improvement clubs didn't mind being hit a groove or two low, or a sweeping hit. The 32-s penalize you for that. But at this point I get better results with the 32-s than I ever did with my GI clubs, and now I'm planning on the 67-s. The thought of going with 67-s when I was playing GI would have been ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
The 67's are still the holy grail for me too, but I think I can settle for the Pro II's for the time being. I'm playing my home course on Thursday, so I will get a better indication of where I'm at with the new sticks then. The course I played today is my worst course anywhere and i always struggle there.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]The 67's are still the holy grail for me too, but I think I can settle for the Pro II's for the time being. I'm playing my home course on Thursday, so I will get a better indication of where I'm at with the new sticks then. The course I played today is my worst course anywhere and i always struggle there.[/QUOTE]

... to hear how you went with those new clubs today?

I hope they went well!

[QUOTE=Kiwi Player]... to hear how you went with those new clubs today?

I hope they went well![/QUOTE]
Spent the front nine getting acquainted with the new sticks and shot a woeful 7 over, but got them dialed in on the back nine. Shot 1 over with 2 birdies and 3 other good birdie chances that shaved the hole. Still having a little trouble finding the sweet spot of the long iroins, but 5 iron down were pure. These clubs are so much more precise and acurate than the old MX 20's, which I must admit play like shovels by comparison. I just wish I went grain flkow forged (blades) earlier.

i ordered the s58 s yesterday i went w .75* flat and the zz 65 shaft in stiff. should be here in about 12 days,cant wait !!!!

[QUOTE=DENNIS7180GOLF]i ordered the s58 s yesterday i went w .75* flat and the zz 65 shaft in stiff. should be here in about 12 days,cant wait !!!![/QUOTE]

Let us know how you like em. I went with the i/3 blades, standard black dot, with JZ cushion stiffs. I'm hitting the PW over 150 yards, so i'm going to have to adjust my club selection.

[QUOTE=bjdrivers]Let us know how you like em. I went with the i/3 blades, standard black dot, with JZ cushion stiffs. I'm hitting the PW over 150 yards, so i'm going to have to adjust my club selection.[/QUOTE]
What the hell? More clubs? Your family should have an intervention.

[QUOTE=Horseballs]What the hell? More clubs? Your family should have an intervention.[/QUOTE]

Karsten Solheim's ghost visited me in a dream. I heeded his call.

Come to think of it, Dennis hijacked his own thread by going with S58's. That's pretty cool.

[QUOTE=bjdrivers]Karsten Solheim's ghost visited me in a dream. I heeded his call.

Come to think of it, Dennis hijacked his own thread by going with S58's. That's pretty cool.[/QUOTE]
its a gift

WTF BJ? You are one of the most outspoken opponents of cast CB SGI POS shovels (Ping) on this forum. What has caused such a seismic shift in your golfing allegiances? It sounds like you have been seduced by the artificial distance increases gained from super strong lofts, without regarding the associated drop in accuracy and workability. If you went to something remotely 'player like' like S58/59's I could almost understand, but the I3's?

Whatever has come over you, snap out of it and come back to the fold. Don't make us drag up some of your old posts about Ping, in particular I3 'blades'.

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]WTF BJ? You are one of the most outspoken opponents of cast CB SGI POS shovels (Ping) on this forum. What has caused such a seismic shift in your golfing allegiances? It sounds like you have been seduced by the artificial distance increases gained from super strong lofts, without regarding the associated drop in accuracy and workability. If you went to something remotely 'player like' like S58/59's I could almost understand, but the I3's?

Whatever has come over you, snap out of it and come back to the fold. Don't make us drag up some of your old posts about Ping, in particular I3 'blades'.[/QUOTE]

Don't worry Hacker, BJ will have a new set in about two weeks. They may not be players clubs immediately though. They might be Callaway, then Cleveland etc but eventually he'll go full circle and end up with forged Titleists 'players' cavity backs back in the bag.

Until he gets another set of Pings ...

Mizuno is OUT, PING is IN. We're here, we're queer. Go Hillary!!!!

[QUOTE=bjdrivers]Mizuno is OUT, PING is IN. We're here, we're queer. Go Hillary!!!![/QUOTE]
i agree with everything you said except the gay thing and the Hillary thing.

I left my camera at my parent's house last weekend. I'll have to post stock pics for Kiwi. This is hands-down the best setup I've ever had. The putter kicks as.s

As for the irons, they're pretty much standard lofts. The PW is 47*.

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[QUOTE=Not a hacker]WTF BJ? You are one of the most outspoken opponents of cast CB SGI POS shovels (Ping) on this forum. What has caused such a seismic shift in your golfing allegiances? It sounds like you have been seduced by the artificial distance increases gained from super strong lofts, without regarding the associated drop in accuracy and workability. If you went to something remotely 'player like' like S58/59's I could almost understand, but the I3's?

Whatever has come over you, snap out of it and come back to the fold. Don't make us drag up some of your old posts about Ping, in particular I3 'blades'.[/QUOTE]

I apologize hacker, I've gotten several WTF's from this bag. But the fact is, I bomb this driver, stripe this 3 wood, the irons are like throwing darts, and the putter is $.
Who would have thunk it eh?

[QUOTE=bjdrivers]I left my camera at my parent's house last weekend. I'll have to post stock pics for Kiwi. This is hands-down the best setup I've ever had. The putter kicks as.s

As for the irons, they're pretty much standard lofts. The PW is 47*.

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LOL

No offence BJ but you say that every time you get a new setup.

Your most recent mantra was 'forged' irons only and forged Titty's were the business.

mp57/mp60 you can't go wrong man...Do'h!

[QUOTE=bjdrivers]I apologize hacker, I've gotten several WTF's from this bag. But the fact is, I bomb this driver, stripe this 3 wood, the irons are like throwing darts, and the putter is $.
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Will your dad be ok with the Pings?

[QUOTE=lorenzoinoc]Will your dad be ok with the Pings?[/QUOTE]

He would certainly benefit from the distance, but he's gone back to his x12 shovels.

[QUOTE=Omen2]bj if you are going to play mizzy why not put the best irons they ever made back in your bag: they should be right there in your garage among the 20 odd other sets you have. you can spot them easily they are the ones that say MP 33 on them.

NAH instead of going after the new pretty mizzy's why not snag a set of 33's: trust me the 57's or 67's are not going to be any better than those.

hell buy BJ's from him he's not using them anyway.

Omen.

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Where do the MP-37's fit in the Mizuno scheme of things? I saw some on our equivalent of E-Bay and the pictures looked a lot like the MP-33's to me?

Pings havnt come in yet,im starting to feel a little anxious.hope they are here by next monday. once i get them i will let you know what i think.

[QUOTE=Omen2]HB i still have titleist howitzer in storage... i should pull that out and play a round with it.

DENNIS we all knew you were retarded when you choose pings over mizzys

best of luck to all

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I could break mine out of the Attic aas well. It would be a BOOM fest.

picked up the s 58s today will be playing on thursday.they look and feel great as i have hit them in the net. i will let you know.

[QUOTE=DENNIS7180GOLF]picked up the s 58s today will be playing on thursday.they look and feel great as i have hit them in the net. i will let you know.[/QUOTE]
I'll be interested to hear about their workability. From hitting them in the nets I know they have great feel for Pings, but couldn't tell if they could be worked left or right. My new sticks are performing very well for me. Last Saturday I won the A grade nett at only my fourth outing with the Pro II's, and finally figured out how to stripe the long irons, which was the only real problem I have had with them. The transition to blades from GI for me has been surprisingly fast and I feel like I've been playing these for years. They are quickly becoming my all time favourite clubs.

hit at the range last night, look and feel are awesome.i didnt try to move the ball much just trying to get feel but the little i did move the ball was very easy.not sure about big hooks and cuts yet i will let you know.

[QUOTE=DENNIS7180GOLF]hit at the range last night, look and feel are awesome.i didnt try to move the ball much just trying to get feel but the little i did move the ball was very easy.not sure about big hooks and cuts yet i will let you know.[/QUOTE]

Did you get the Cushin shafts? Let me know about your distances with those as well.

[QUOTE=bjdrivers]Did you get the Cushin shafts? Let me know about your distances with those as well.[/QUOTE]
No i did not.the distance is great im not very long. with these, 7 iron carry is about 160+ thats w range balls my tittys i was 150. low irons have a great low ball flight that seems very easy to control. i play tom. so i will know more then.

Mizuno are the iron gods. I shoot in the mid 80s and played MP 30s with Rifle 5.5s for 5 years, but was yearning for a change. I demod and was fitted for TaylorMade and Mizuno. I analized my swing and decided to go with MX 25s with Nippon NS pro R (75-80 mph swing) - oh what a feeling! PURE is the only way to describe these clubs. The sweet spot is gigantic and the ball sails off the face with effortless zest. The clubs are designed for straight and high ball flight, but they can be worked to a good degree (beautiful fades and cuts). I recommend these irons to a good ball striker who wants ultimate forgiveness out of a forged club.