great putters use real putters....

[Omen2]

none of the greatest putters use gay gimmicky flatsticks... no mallets, on belly's, nope even the games greats say that the anser style standard length ( 32-35") is what all the games best putters use.

let's discuss... this isn't my opinion, this is what history has shown.

Omen

[Horseballs]

You don't play an Anser style putter. This is why you suck at putting.

[Omen2]

no... i play an anser style... its just an anser on a diet... some are good enough to not require that much extra material....

Look mr. balls, just because you cant handle my putter is no reason for you to attack my superior putting...

Sincerly, and where the phuck is my invite...

Omen

[Horseballs]

no... i play an anser style... its just an anser on a diet... some are good enough to not require that much extra material....

Look mr. balls, just because you cant handle my putter is no reason for you to attack my superior putting...

Sincerly, and where the phuck is my invite...

Omen

Superior putting... That's almost LOL funny.
About that invite, don't call me, I'll call you.

[Omen2]

ROFLMAO...

my putting isnt superior... no, no ... it's way better than that.... superior doesnt do it justice

[Mizunogolfer]

Superior putting... That's almost LOL funny.
About that invite, don't call me, I'll call you.

Now that was some funny shnitz.

[bladeduffer]

Didn't Crenshaw use a blade?


bd

[Mward2002]

Agreed. Ben's putter was more a blade. Palmer as well. It really comes down to those two.

[bladeduffer]

I'd love to get my hands on that Cameron Napa blade but don't feel like shelling out 5 bills for it.


bd

[dorkman53]

Tiger could probably outputt many of the people on the PGA Tour using a two sided blade putter from a miniature golf course, if he had a couple of practice sessions to get used to it.

[bjdrivers]

Tiger could outputt Omen using the side of his foot.

Outputt? is that a word?

[Not a hacker]

none of the greatest putters use gay gimmicky flatsticks... no mallets, on belly's, nope even the games greats say that the anser style standard length ( 32-35") is what all the games best putters use.

let's discuss... this isn't my opinion, this is what history has shown.

Omen

When was the Anser made? 1980-something? That certainly leaves alot of good putters who used other styles over the years. I remember when the Anser came out, and at the time they were being derided as 'gay gimmicky' oversized POS. The same way some people now deride mallets or two balls. In reality the old 8802 or bullseye are much more traditional, pure putter designs for golfing purists than the putter style you have selected.

And anyway, what's the big deal, you only play a cheap Chinese made knock off, you don't even have a real Anser. BTW I use a compact blade design with a centre shaft. No gimmicks, doesn't even have alignment aids.

P.S. Totally agree about the belly putter abomination.

[bjdrivers]

I think Vijay has gone through more putters than I have, that's pretty sad. Poor sap can't find his stroke.

[bladeduffer]

Outputt? is that a word?

It is here.


bd

[newfie_golfer]

I think Vijay has gone through more putters than I have, that's pretty sad. Poor sap can't find his stroke.

Theres alot to be said for Vijay, not many people switch back to a conventional putter after going back to a belly, he does change putters, and his putting grip alot though...

[frankdmann]

Didn't Tim Clark lead the tour in putts per round last year using a 2-ball?

[TmacG]

Sergio has gone through more variations of putters then I have ever seen. New grips, and styles. PICK ONE!

TmacG

[FreakOfNature]

Each type of standard length putter simply suits the various philosophies and approaches we take toward putting. Long and especially belly putters violate the spirit of the game, IMHO.

The Anser style works best if you adopt the most applicable philosophy of putting - the open to square to shut face through the stroke. Pure toe-balanced putters require even more exaggeration of this motion to work as they are designed to. Face balanced putters (be they mallets or blades) work best when the face is kept square to the arc, or plane of the stroke. Each will only benefit you if you use them the way they were designed, and only if that method proves to be the most natural for the player.

No type is better, that part is up to the player and the player alone. You match your putter to your philosophy, and then you go learn how to make putts that way. That's what makes some people great putters - they're intelligent enough to match skills and tools to maximize results. You still need to become literate in speed and break no matter what you use.




FON

[Not a hacker]

Each type of standard length putter simply suits the various philosophies and approaches we take toward putting. Long and especially belly putters violate the spirit of the game, IMHO.

The Anser style works best if you adopt the most applicable philosophy of putting - the open to square to shut face through the stroke. Pure toe-balanced putters require even more exaggeration of this motion to work as they are designed to. Face balanced putters (be they mallets or blades) work best when the face is kept square to the arc, or plane of the stroke. Each will only benefit you if you use them the way they were designed, and only if that method proves to be the most natural for the player.

No type is better, that part is up to the player and the player alone. You match your putter to your philosophy, and then you go learn how to make putts that way. That's what makes some people great putters - they're intelligent enough to match skills and tools to maximize results. You still need to become literate in speed and break no matter what you use

You are definitely onto something here FON. I am a straight back straight through putter with a left hand low grip and for me a centre shafted, face balanced putter is definitely the way to go. I find the centre balanced putter keeps itself online with that type of stroke. I've used Anser styles in the past but with much less success.

And I couldn't agree more about the long and belly putters. I have voiced my disgust at these numerous times. I believe they violate not only the spirit of the game, but also the rules as to what constitutes a golf stroke. Not to mention they are longer than any other club in the bag.

[FreakOfNature]

You are definitely onto something here FON. I am a straight back straight through putter with a left hand low grip and for me a centre shafted, face balanced putter is definitely the way to go. I find the centre balanced putter keeps itself online with that type of stroke. I've used Anser styles in the past but with much less success.

And I couldn't agree more about the long and belly putters. I have voiced my disgust at these numerous times. I believe they violate not only the spirit of the game, but also the rules as to what constitutes a golf stroke. Not to mention they are longer than any other club in the bag.

Every time I hear "straight back, straight through", I cringe. Even vomit in my mouth a little.

The face balanced putter works best when the face stays square to the plane of the stroke, NOT the target line. Think about the term "face balanced" for a minute and ask yourself - "What is the face balanced in relation TO?" The answer is - the face is balanced in relation to the plane of the stroke. That plane will, from the perspective of your eyes - appear to open and close the face similarly but far less dramatically than a heel/toe Anser or a toe-weighted blade like Mickelson uses.

This is how you will need to use it to have it work the way it was perhaps "unintentionally" designed to work. They wanted a putter that worked for "straight back, straight through" but instead they got a putter that wants to keep the face square to the plane of the stroke. It's not so bad, once you realize what the tool in your hand is actually capable of providing, if you use it properly.

That's the key - to use the club the way it happens to work best. There are a lot of misunderstandings of how a face balanced putter actually works and how to use one correctly. I hope I can clear up some of those misunderstandings and help people who choose to use them get the most out of their choice.



FON

[thegodfather]

I use a 48" odyssey putter and i like to consider myself as a pretty good putter, give me an anser putter and i am like a 36 handicapper. I believe that putting is all down to personal feel, and that any putter can work best- depending on the one using it

[bjdrivers]

Every time I hear "straight back, straight through", I cringe. Even vomit in my mouth a little.

The face balanced putter works best when the face stays square to the plane of the stroke, NOT the target line. Think about the term "face balanced" for a minute and ask yourself - "What is the face balanced in relation TO?" The answer is - the face is balanced in relation to the plane of the stroke. That plane will, from the perspective of your eyes - appear to open and close the face similarly but far less dramatically than a heel/toe Anser or a toe-weighted blade like Mickelson uses.

This is how you will need to use it to have it work the way it was perhaps "unintentionally" designed to work. They wanted a putter that worked for "straight back, straight through" but instead they got a putter that wants to keep the face square to the plane of the stroke. It's not so bad, once you realize what the tool in your hand is actually capable of providing, if you use it properly.

That's the key - to use the club the way it happens to work best. There are a lot of misunderstandings of how a face balanced putter actually works and how to use one correctly. I hope I can clear up some of those misunderstandings and help people who choose to use them get the most out of their choice.



FON

Thanks for that sermon Mr. Cameron. You cured my insomnia.

[fred3]

Must be history as you interpret it. As usual the underlying reason for your post is to cause trouble. Hence the statement: " none of the greatest putters use gay gimmicky flatsticks... no mallets". One of the greatest putters of all times (that would be Billy Casper) used a mallet putter.

Are you as big a jerk (and proud of it) in real life, or do you just post your methane infused drival because you're a lonely sad human being?

[Omen2]

yo... i'm just telling you guys what arnold palmer said last week during his event...

dont shoot the messenger...

fred3 for you to call anyone a lonely sad human being is as ironic as anything ever said by man throughout time. Who on here is a bigger jerk than you? good to see you are still around.

[Kiwi Player]

yo... i'm just telling you guys what arnold palmer said last week during his event...

dont shoot the messenger...

fred3 for you to call anyone a lonely sad human being is as ironic as anything ever said by man throughout time. Who on here is a bigger jerk than you? good to see you are still around.

It is great to have Fred back and he's really upped the ante lately.

Instead of the usual 1 post every three months I've counted at least 3 in the past two weeks!

Awesome.

[newfie_golfer]

Sergio has gone through more variations of putters then I have ever seen. New grips, and styles. PICK ONE!

TmacG

Watching the WGC today and he now has a fat taylormade grip on his putter, im pretty sure he wasn't using it last week.

[Horseballs]

It is great to have Fred back and he's really upped the ante lately.

Instead of the usual 1 post every three months I've counted at least 3 in the past two weeks!

Awesome.

He's been solid but not spectacular. This board needs a fred3-started topic or two. Baby steps, I guess.

[bjdrivers]

Must be history as you interpret it. As usual the underlying reason for your post is to cause trouble. Hence the statement: " none of the greatest putters use gay gimmicky flatsticks... no mallets". One of the greatest putters of all times (that would be Billy Casper) used a mallet putter.

Are you as big a jerk (and proud of it) in real life, or do you just post your methane infused drival because you're a lonely sad human being?

Considering Omen weighs as much as Tad Fujikawa & the same height as Stewart Cink, you gotta cut the man some slack Fred. GR is his only chance to talk shiite w/out getting his arse kicked.

[Omen2]

Considering Omen weighs as much as Tad Fujikawa & the same height as Stewart Cink, you gotta cut the man some slack Fred. GR is his only chance to talk shiite w/out getting his arse kicked.

careful bj or i'm gonna put you and your mom on a leash... just because i'm not a fat a.ss like you doesnt mean i wont slap the taste out of your mouth for looking at me wrong.

Omen

[bjdrivers]

just because i'm not a fat a.ss like you doesnt mean i wont slap the taste out of your mouth for looking at me wrong.

Omen

[Not a hacker]

Considering Omen weighs as much as Tad Fujikawa & the same height as Stewart Cink, you gotta cut the man some slack Fred. GR is his only chance to talk shiite w/out getting his arse kicked.

Does he choke as much as Cink on the golf course?

[david_dicks]

I agree with the spirit of your comment. People sometimes get caught up in what a "Good player should use". I use an Odyssey 2-ball mallet and do well with it. In the past I used a blade and struggled. The 2-ball mallet helps me... so I use it!

For a time I went to The Heavy Putter, because I sort of lost my putting stroke. It helped and I'm back to my two-ball now. Damn the torpedoes, use what you like.

[bjdrivers]

I agree with the spirit of your comment. People sometimes get caught up in what a "Good player should use". I use an Odyssey 2-ball mallet and do well with it. In the past I used a blade and struggled. The 2-ball mallet helps me... so I use it!

For a time I went to The Heavy Putter, because I sort of lost my putting stroke. It helped and I'm back to my two-ball now. Damn the torpedoes, use what you like.

Hear hear dicks!!