Question for those who know the answer..

[ripit35]

if you've seen my vids, you know i have a problem standing up upon impact. my physics lesson for the day says, if my arms are pushing down, and weight on my feet and firmly planted, action/reaction would cause me to come up. Do you guys feel any weight on the downswing? or do you just let your body fall, and the downward motion of the arms keeps it stationary?

if you watch tiger, he squats down, thus taking weight off his feet, and on the follow through, momentum carries him up off the ground sometimes

[golfaholic]

Ugh. I have no idea.

Swing the club. Keep your heels on the ground.

[SDB1]

if you've seen my vids, you know i have a problem standing up upon impact. my physics lesson for the day says, if my arms are pushing down, and weight on my feet and firmly planted, action/reaction would cause me to come up. Do you guys feel any weight on the downswing? or do you just let your body fall, and the downward motion of the arms keeps it stationary?

if you watch tiger, he squats down, thus taking weight off his feet, and on the follow through, momentum carries him up off the ground sometimes

Tiger doesn't squat down. Watch his head whenever he swings. He works very hard on keeping it still. If you do come up it should be in your follow through. You start to come up just after you start your down swing. It's almost like you feel cramped and your body makes a natural adjustment.

[SoonerBS]

Tiger doesn't squat down. Watch his head whenever he swings. He works very hard on keeping it still. If you do come up it should be in your follow through. You start to come up just after you start your down swing. It's almost like you feel cramped and your body makes a natural adjustment.

Tiger does move down nearly an inch on impact. It has been part of his latest swing change.

[FreakOfNature]

if you've seen my vids, you know i have a problem standing up upon impact. my physics lesson for the day says, if my arms are pushing down, and weight on my feet and firmly planted, action/reaction would cause me to come up. Do you guys feel any weight on the downswing? or do you just let your body fall, and the downward motion of the arms keeps it stationary?

if you watch tiger, he squats down, thus taking weight off his feet, and on the follow through, momentum carries him up off the ground sometimes

Tiger's "squat" move that he makes during the downswing is actually a mistake that he's been afflicted with his whole career - he's said as much in various interviews. The problem with the squat is that it moves the fulcrum of your main pivot (the spine) during the motion of the swing - if you want to find consistency while employing this move you'll have to precisely replicate the "squat" the same distance and direction, and with the same timing every time. Unfortunately, not even Tiger Woods can do this consistently (as evidenced by all the balls he drives into the rhubarb).

I use my eyes to maintain a locked spine angle and static head position by focusing my attention on the periphery of the ball and ensuring that what I'm looking at does not move or change through the backswing in particular - but also through impact. Once I'm past impact I could care less - the ball is already gone.

The issue with weight transfer works like this - if your weight starts on your heels, it will invariably shift toward the toes at some point during the swing, and vice-versa. If you start on your heels and shift to your toes - you're going to swing outside to in to get back to the ball, resulting in pulls and slices. If you start on your toes and your weight shifts to your heels mid-swing - you'll come at the ball from way inside and probably hit a lot of pushes and hooks. Your weight needs to be set up squarely balanced between the heels and toes so that it remains static, or it becomes another moving part in the swing - and another variable which will introduce a certain degree of error.

Also, slow down your backswing and make sure to pause *slightly* at the transition, and everything will be much easier. You might even gain a few mph of clubhead speed in the process.

Hope that helps.



FON

[Not a hacker]

Once again, SDB1 does not have a clue what he's on about. Where is spank in our time of need?

[SDB1]

Once again, SDB1 does not have a clue what he's on about. Where is spank in our time of need?

Tiger's one inch of movement is vastly different from the nearly one foot of movement seen in ripit35's video. Still, it is something Tiger works on to eliminate all together. Once again, NAH has shown an utter lack golf related intelligence and has directed his self consciousness onto others.

[oldplayer]

if you've seen my vids, you know i have a problem standing up upon impact. my physics lesson for the day says, if my arms are pushing down, and weight on my feet and firmly planted, action/reaction would cause me to come up. Do you guys feel any weight on the downswing? or do you just let your body fall, and the downward motion of the arms keeps it stationary?

if you watch tiger, he squats down, thus taking weight off his feet, and on the follow through, momentum carries him up off the ground sometimes

My best guess is that you get up on your toes at impact in an effort to hit the ball as hard as you can. I feel this is what causes your "stand up".
On the range try hitting your driver at only 70% and get used to the feel of that posture at impact. Then you can learn how to gradually increase power while maintaining correct posture at impact.

[ripit35]

good info guys, another feel question, Do you swing with your left arm, right arm, or both? i have been swinging with the left arm, and letting gravity extend the right arm, but i wonder if this is correct... Is the left used like it would be in basketball? stabilizing the the right arm as it pushes the ball.... only it's guiding the right arm in a golf swing? this isn't too technical, think it's a lot to do with feel....

I need to know the feel of a good swing, and it's hard seeing what people feel and reading their minds

[oldplayer]

As far as a "feel" for hitting the ball my arms don't come into it. Before taking the club away I try to feel a nice relaxed but solid and connected grip. Then into the ball the clubface becomes my right hand.

[SDB1]

good info guys, another feel question, Do you swing with your left arm, right arm, or both? i have been swinging with the left arm, and letting gravity extend the right arm, but i wonder if this is correct... Is the left used like it would be in basketball? stabilizing the the right arm as it pushes the ball.... only it's guiding the right arm in a golf swing? this isn't too technical, think it's a lot to do with feel....

I need to know the feel of a good swing, and it's hard seeing what people feel and reading their minds

This is a real good topic in itself. I have heard Tiger say he leads with the left arm and aims with the back of his left hand. I never could maintain any consistency with this method. I like to feel like my arms just fall from the top and the I push throughwith the right arm like a ram just after impact. I go between that feeling and just swinging my arms together, very loosely with very light grip pressure. I switch to this when I start to feel like I'm steering the ball when tension sets in. Another good topic is leading with your torso or with your arms. This probably gets into one plane vs. Two plane debate though.

[ripit35]

This is a real good topic in itself. I have heard Tiger say he leads with the left arm and aims with the back of his left hand. I never could maintain any consistency with this method. I like to feel like my arms just fall from the top and the I push throughwith the right arm like a ram just after impact. I go between that feeling and just swinging my arms together, very loosely with very light grip pressure. I switch to this when I start to feel like I'm steering the ball when tension sets in. Another good topic is leading with your torso or with your arms. This probably gets into one plane vs. Two plane debate though.

i tried the right arm approach, and it doesn't work. if you swing with your right, you put tension on the wrist, and thus making it impossible to release the clubhead. Using the left is just the opposite, and this is where holding the release is necessary for the fade...

[rooboy]

good info guys, another feel question, Do you swing with your left arm, right arm, or both? i have been swinging with the left arm, and letting gravity extend the right arm, but i wonder if this is correct... Is the left used like it would be in basketball? stabilizing the the right arm as it pushes the ball.... only it's guiding the right arm in a golf swing? this isn't too technical, think it's a lot to do with feel....

I need to know the feel of a good swing, and it's hard seeing what people feel and reading their minds

I concentrate on not swinging or hitting with either arm but using body rotation instead. By doing this i seem to be able to relax my arms to the point that it feels like they are just along for the ride(stops me trying to manipulate the clubhead with my hands as well) When i rotate to the left on the downswing i like to feel that my left upper arm is firm against the side of chest and just after impact that my left hip is stretched into the follow through ( this does feel like standing up - in reply to your other question!!). If you have a look at geoff ogilvy swinging on youtube i think you will get the picture.

[groundhogday]

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if you've seen my vids, you know i have a problem standing up upon impact. my physics lesson for the day says, if my arms are pushing down, and weight on my feet and firmly planted, action/reaction would cause me to come up. Do you guys feel any weight on the downswing? or do you just let your body fall, and the downward motion of the arms keeps it stationary?

if you watch tiger, he squats down, thus taking weight off his feet, and on the follow through, momentum carries him up off the ground sometimes

Not to sound constructive or actually contribute to this board in a positive manner may I suggest a drill the helps with sways and up and down head movement. Take your normal stance and setup on the range. Take your back foot and place it six inches back on your toes and then swing. Practice with this setup and hit some balls. Then go back to your normal setup. This drill will make you stay down with your center over the golf ball and help with balance. Standing up is just as bad as swaying. Rotate don't stand up.

If this doesn't work get a set of mizuno blades and listen to NAH

[NiftyNiblick]

if you've seen my vids, you know i have a problem standing up upon impact. my physics lesson for the day says, if my arms are pushing down, and weight on my feet and firmly planted, action/reaction would cause me to come up. Do you guys feel any weight on the downswing? or do you just let your body fall, and the downward motion of the arms keeps it stationary?

if you watch tiger, he squats down, thus taking weight off his feet, and on the follow through, momentum carries him up off the ground sometimes

I take a comfortable, athletic stance with my knees slightly flexed and I try to align the ball, my left knee, my left shoulder, and the butt end of the grip on my backswing. thinking about nothing else whatsoever. This is to keep things simple. I then pull the butt end of the grip directly at the ball. Everything else just happens naturally without any thought from my part.

If all else fails, you can try that. It works best with a slightly flat, inside out and throw-forward type swing.

[ripit35]

I take a comfortable, athletic stance with my knees slightly flexed and I try to align the ball, my left knee, my left shoulder, and the butt end of the grip on my backswing. thinking about nothing else whatsoever. This is to keep things simple. I then pull the butt end of the grip directly at the ball. Everything else just happens naturally without any thought from my part.

If all else fails, you can try that. It works best with a slightly flat, inside out and throw-forward type swing.

yup, i've done the baseball swing approach, leading the butt end towards the ball, it's the most consistent approach i've tried..

[SDB1]

i tried the right arm approach, and it doesn't work. if you swing with your right, you put tension on the wrist, and thus making it impossible to release the clubhead. Using the left is just the opposite, and this is where holding the release is necessary for the fade...

Not quite sure what you're referring to by swinging with the right arm. That isn't what I was saying. I am talking about pushing the right arm down the line after impact. Not leading with the right arm. This creates a strong release and doesn't hinder it.