Grips?

[Jeff_h]

OK......

I need new grips.

Standard size, standard weight.

.600 core

Round.

My last favoritest grip was the the Winn XF Weather.

Those are still available , but I am lookimng for an updated upgrade.

I currently have Players Softie. They suck ass and I can't stand them.

What's the best grip out there?

Do my reserach for me please.

Thanks.

[Mward2002]

Can't go wrong with either Golf Pride's MCC, or their Tour Velvet Full Cord.

[SoonerBS]

I play Pride's MCC grip and love it, but be careful because the half cord grip will wear on your hands despite what the infidel, Larry, says . . . . . .

I guess I should tell you why I like them: The grip is great with the half cord that allows traction even when hands are sweaty, but the rubber portion gives you good feel. This is not a good grip if you are wanting something "cushy," but is an excellent grip for "feel" . . . . . .

[Mward2002]

If you wear a glove, the cord part's not an issue.

[SoonerBS]

If you wear a glove, the cord part's not an issue.

Exactly. And, if you don't, you will grow callouses that snag your wife's panty hose whenever you feel her up . . . . .

[SoonerBS]

Exactly. And, if you don't, you will grow callouses that snag your wife's panty hose whenever you feel her up . . . . .

I might also add that some women like this. It could be a new marketing ploy: "Buy the half cord grip, . . . . . . women love the side effects!"

[groundhogday]

OK......

I need new grips.

Standard size, standard weight.

.600 core

Round.

My last favoritest grip was the the Winn XF Weather.

Those are still available , but I am lookimng for an updated upgrade.

I currently have Players Softie. They suck ass and I can't stand them.

What's the best grip out there?

Do my reserach for me please.

Thanks.

Dhead

May I suggest one of these



What i am playing now soft but not to soft




same as above but firm



My next grip in midsize. I buy frm Diamnd tour golf and Golf supply america depending on the prices

Please ignore this message

GHD

[noshuz]

Winn DSI, V17-AVS (what it says on the bag) oh sh!t, the cat just got it! It's his now......
Blue/Black
Glove or no glove they're perfect.
Thread Closed........

[famousdavis]

OK......

I need new grips.

Standard size, standard weight.

.600 core

Round.

My last favoritest grip was the the Winn XF Weather.

Those are still available , but I am lookimng for an updated upgrade.

I currently have Players Softie. They suck ass and I can't stand them.

What's the best grip out there?

Do my reserach for me please.

Thanks.

Winn grips are for metrosexuals. I use Ping i3 grips on my irons and dual durometer on the rest (blue tip). One of the cheapest grips out there, the Golf Pride Tour Wrap is a great grip that looks great and doesn't make your clubs look like little kids toys. Time to man up people and quit acting like a bunch of sissies in a gay parade.

[12sandwich]

Midsize new decade. I thought they wore a little quick, but actually if you scuff them up with an abrasive, when there a little slick, they come back to life. Any color. Played in the rain with them a couple weeks ago, my clubs got washed.

[Yaz1975]

Winn DSI, V17-AVS (what it says on the bag) oh sh!t, the cat just got it! It's his now......
Blue/Black
Glove or no glove they're perfect.
Thread Closed........

I had those on my woods but just didn't like them on my irons. A little too soft for iron shots so I went back to Lamkin Crossline but kept the Winn on the woods. Great grip for a driver.

[golfaholic]

GP MC FTW. Your choice of color. I currently have yellow. Probably go for white next.

Winn grips absolutely suck.

[daveperkins]

I haven't found a better grip than New Decade Multi Compound. and I always wear a glove, if that matters.

[noshuz]

Winn grips are for metrosexuals. I use Ping i3 grips on my irons and dual durometer on the rest (blue tip). One of the cheapest grips out there, the Golf Pride Tour Wrap is a great grip that looks great and doesn't make your clubs look like little kids toys. Time to man up people and quit acting like a bunch of sissies in a gay parade.

metrosexuals
(met.roh.SEK.shoo.ul) n. An urban male with a strong aesthetic sense who spends a great deal of time and money on his appearance and lifestyle.
—metrosexuality n.

FD. Although it was Jeff you quoted and not me, I still gotta say. Oh man! Is that an oxymoron or what?

[mongrel]

Golf Pride Tour Velvet regular on all my irons and the GP cord on a driver. This new cord is nothing like the original stuff which would shred even Freddie's or Larry's hands to pulp. Got the Golf Pride Tour Wrap on one driver and it seems to go better with that one 'cause the shaft is regular flex.

[wofat]

Golf Pride Multi-Compounds are where it's at. Color doesn't matter, though I have the whites currently. Love the feel they provide and they're downright tacky without being cushy.

[Jeff_h]

Dhead

May I suggest one of these



What i am playing now soft but not to soft




same as above but firm



My next grip in midsize. I buy frm Diamnd tour golf and Golf supply america depending on the prices

Please ignore this message

GHD

Penis breath:

Good info. Thanks.

I'm leaning towards the Xi7.

Plain black is classy and traditional.

Black and red is a little razzle dazzle. I kinda like that.

[Not a hacker]

For value I think you can't go past the tour velvet, tacky and nice feel that are not too hard or too soft. I've had them on numerous sets and always liked them. I had new decades once before and didn't like them, and the regular crosslines are a pile of crap IMO. The irons I currently play have Lamkin crossline Jumbos and they are a very nice grip, but probably the thickest grip I've ever seen, thicker than any other jumbo.

[groundhogday]

Penis breath:

Good info. Thanks.

I'm leaning towards the Xi7.

Plain black is classy and traditional.

Black and red is a little razzle dazzle. I kinda like that.

No problem butt munch

anytime I can help.

Please put me back on ignore I am begining to feel a little unconfortable

GHD

[Pky6471]

Golf Pride multi-compound decade is the best in terms of long lasting and wet conditions. I used to like Winn grip due to its solfness tackniness, but when wet like playing in a light rain, it's slippery like wearing a condom

[indacup]

Jeff-

Check out the Wishon grips...real good quality, very nice rubber compound.

[Mward2002]

For those of you who rough up the grips via sandpaper or some other abrasive, what grit do you use? My driver grip's getting a little smooth for my liking and I'd rather rough it up for another few months than get it regripped in the middle of summer and kill it even faster.

[pingman360]

OK......

I need new grips.

Standard size, standard weight.

.600 core

Round.

My last favoritest grip was the the Winn XF Weather.

Those are still available , but I am lookimng for an updated upgrade.

I currently have Players Softie. They suck ass and I can't stand them.

What's the best grip out there?

Do my reserach for me please.

Thanks.

iomic are nice but just too expensive for what they are... i have them on my wedges and 3 wood, used to have them throughout the bag, but honestly just too expensive, i mean really a grip is a grip...

now on everything but the 4 clubs i mentioned are dd2's i like them and they work better in the rain than most grips... i also like the NDMC's but only in a few colors (i have a thing for yellow grips for some reason)

[famousdavis]

For those of you who rough up the grips via sandpaper or some other abrasive, what grit do you use? My driver grip's getting a little smooth for my liking and I'd rather rough it up for another few months than get it regripped in the middle of summer and kill it even faster.

I like to use my belt sander with 100 grit sandpaper. Make sure you use a back and forth motion rather than going in circles.

[mongrel]

For those of you who rough up the grips via sandpaper or some other abrasive, what grit do you use? My driver grip's getting a little smooth for my liking and I'd rather rough it up for another few months than get it regripped in the middle of summer and kill it even faster.

400 works best for me, but the Scotch Brite kitchen yellow sponge with greenscrubber on the other side works well also if you give it a good hot water scrub with Ajax or similar abrasive powdered cleaner.

[lorenzoinoc]

For those of you who rough up the grips via sandpaper or some other abrasive, what grit do you use? My driver grip's getting a little smooth for my liking and I'd rather rough it up for another few months than get it regripped in the middle of summer and kill it even faster.

I use medium because when I first tried sanding grips, fine sounded insufficient and coarse sounded like overkill. I'm a man of science. But it's worked beautifully. After light sanding, I spray Simple Green on the grips, wipe it real good, rinse and then wait for heaven to appear. It always does.

I'm going to have to abstain from having input on Winn because I'm not a fan. Jeff, with FL's humidity, I'm surprised you like them. And they don't take sanding well. I've always gone back to Golf Pride. My absolute favorite grip, hands down is the DD2, and it takes sanding better than anything else I've tried. New Decade is also worthy if you don't like smooth. That said, nothing really beats a freshly sanded Tour Velvet, IMHO.

Yes, I may have a sanding fetish.

Never tried Ajax, M, maybe I will.

[lorenzoinoc]

I like to use my belt sander with 100 grit sandpaper. Make sure you use a back and forth motion rather than going in circles.

I simply circle the grip with the sandpaper and use a masturbation motion. We all do it and working the masturbation specific muscles can't hurt.

[SoonerBS]

I simply circle the grip with the sandpaper and use a masturbation motion. We all do it and working the masturbation specific muscles can't hurt.

I predict a full recovery for you in the near future . . . . .

[Steelman]

I started playing with the Golf Pride New Decade multi compound when it first came out and I will never play anything else if that helps Jeff. I get blue ones. It's a relaxing colour when you are addressing the ball. Green is also calming. I don't like the other colours.

[famousdavis]

I started playing with the Golf Pride New Decade multi compound when it first came out and I will never play anything else if that helps Jeff. I get blue ones. It's a relaxing colour when you are addressing the ball. Green is also calming. I don't like the other colours.

I usually change the color of my new decade grips 3 or 4 times a year. I'll use orange/black in Sep/Oct, green/red in Dec/Jan and then red/white/blue in the summer. Sometimes I go crazy and use pink/green during Easter. It requires a great deal of regripping but, obviously, it's well worth it.

[Steelman]

famousdavis, as long as you don't regrip at the top!

[SoonerBS]

OK......

I need new grips.

Standard size, standard weight.

.600 core

Round.

My last favoritest grip was the the Winn XF Weather.

Those are still available , but I am lookimng for an updated upgrade.

I currently have Players Softie. They suck ass and I can't stand them.

What's the best grip out there?

Do my reserach for me please.

Thanks.

It appears to me that you were not looking for suggestions at all. The overwhelming favorite is the golf pride MCC, but you have been content to discuss Winn Grips. Are you planning on being as stubborn as I am about listening to and accepting advice from this forum? If you are, then know that I already have that corner of the market covered . . . .

[Jeff_h]

It appears to me that you were not looking for suggestions at all. The overwhelming favorite is the golf pride MCC, but you have been content to discuss Winn Grips. Are you planning on being as stubborn as I am about listening to and accepting advice from this forum? If you are, then know that I already have that corner of the market covered . . . .

ehh.

It's down to the Winn Xi7 and the GP MCC.

When the feck did grips get so frigging expensive?

Jeezus.

[SoonerBS]

ehh.

It's down to the Winn Xi7 and the GP MCC.

When the feck did grips get so frigging expensive?

Jeezus.

Jeff, no need to pay the high price of a name brand grip whenever there are imitations that play just as good. I have used grips from Innovation Golf Grips the last 3 times I regripped clubs and currently have them all on my Mizuno sets now. I play the midsize, cord - multi compound grip that imitates the Golf Pride MCC but at a 3rd the price. They wear really well, too, in fact, I have had the Golf Pride and these and I think the Innovation grips outwear golf pride.

http://stores.ebay.com/Inno-Grips__W...0Q2em14?_pgn=1

[Pky6471]

This is a good price for grip clone, if they last the same as golf pride multi-compound decade then worth considering. I would consider them to replace my irons in the future

[lorenzoinoc]

Where's that government scientist that cut a bunch of golf balls in half with government equipment and posted photos and data? We need him to cut some grips in half to see if clone grips stand up to the real thing.

If they're the same then possible new business idea for Larry. He'd just need a pro endorser. Maybe Hale Irwin or Corey Pavin is available.

[12sandwich]

iomic are nice but just too expensive for what they are... i have them on my wedges and 3 wood, used to have them throughout the bag, but honestly just too expensive, i mean really a grip is a grip...

now on everything but the 4 clubs i mentioned are dd2's i like them and they work better in the rain than most grips... i also like the NDMC's but only in a few colors (i have a thing for yellow grips for some reason)

I have iomic on my putter. Its on its 3rd season, and I cant wear it out. Some kind of space age rubber or not.

[SoonerBS]

I have iomic on my putter. Its on its 3rd season, and I cant wear it out. Some kind of space age rubber or not.

I've always wondered why those grips cost so much . . . . .

[indacup]

I use medium because when I first tried sanding grips, fine sounded insufficient and coarse sounded like overkill. I'm a man of science. But it's worked beautifully. After light sanding, I spray Simple Green on the grips, wipe it real good, rinse and then wait for heaven to appear. It always does.

I'm going to have to abstain from having input on Winn because I'm not a fan. Jeff, with FL's humidity, I'm surprised you like them. And they don't take sanding well. I've always gone back to Golf Pride. My absolute favorite grip, hands down is the DD2, and it takes sanding better than anything else I've tried. New Decade is also worthy if you don't like smooth. That said, nothing really beats a freshly sanded Tour Velvet, IMHO.

Yes, I may have a sanding fetish.

Never tried Ajax, M, maybe I will.

Tom Wishon mentioned this tire/rubber cleaner to me a few years ago as a great chemical to clean and restore the rubber to practically new.

Obviously, it will not recondition wear marks, but when grips get dirty and slippery, and/or faded, this sh!t is the Bomb!



You can get it at any auto parts store or Walmarts....etc

[famousdavis]

Tom Wishon mentioned this tire/rubber cleaner to me a few years ago as a great chemical to clean and restore the rubber to practically new.

Obviously, it will not recondition wear marks, but when grips get dirty and slippery, and/or faded, this sh!t is the Bomb!



You can get it at any auto parts store or Walmarts....etc

Or you could save the trip to Autozone and use dishwashing liquid with a scotchbrite pad (the blue one).

[lorenzoinoc]

These are cool suggestions that call for sophisticated scientific testing. Again, we need that scientist guy to sort through all this. Since I normally hang out at Autozone, it's really no problem, FD, but I'd like to know which is easiest.

Thanks for the suggestion, Indie. Still, I suspect I'd miss doing the sanding. I really like to sand.

[Pky6471]

Where's that government scientist that cut a bunch of golf balls in half with government equipment and posted photos and data? We need him to cut some grips in half to see if clone grips stand up to the real thing.

If they're the same then possible new business idea for Larry. He'd just need a pro endorser. Maybe Hale Irwin or Corey Pavin is available.

Some kind of abrasion test like Taber Abrasion test would do, unfortunately this tester requires 4.5" dia flat sample

[Pky6471]

I've always wondered why those grips cost so much . . . . .

Average rubber compound costs 50 cents a pound. what is the weight of a grip? 1/3 lb?, so it's 17 cents raw material cost for a grip, I would guess labor cost is 8 cents at most, so it's 25 cents per grip going out of the door... Anything beyond that is profit from a manufacturer and a middleman like Golf Galaxy or Dick's Sporting Goods

[lorenzoinoc]

Average rubber compound costs 50 cents a pound. what is the weight of a grip? 1/3 lb?, so it's 17 cents raw material cost for a grip, I would guess labor cost is 8 cents at most, so it's 25 cents per grip going out of the door... Anything beyond that is profit from a manufacturer and a middleman like Golf Galaxy or Dick's Sporting Goods

Hold on. You're saying they don't pay for the manufacturing facility, salespeople, R&D, machinery, insurance, taxes, health care, administration and staff, legal fees, licenses and alimony?

Where are they making them? I'd like to do business there.

[Jeff_h]

Average rubber compound costs 50 cents a pound. what is the weight of a grip? 1/3 lb?, so it's 17 cents raw material cost for a grip, I would guess labor cost is 8 cents at most, so it's 25 cents per grip going out of the door... Anything beyond that is profit from a manufacturer and a middleman like Golf Galaxy or Dick's Sporting Goods

Design costs

Tooling costs

Transportation costs

Advertising costs

Endorsement costs

et alia

[Pky6471]

Design costs

Tooling costs

Transportation costs

Advertising costs

Endorsement costs

et alia

Design costs and tooling costs are a one-time deal, if you spread it out to thousands of grips then they are almost nothing...Advertising and endorsement costs are the two high-priced items, Even so I believe that anything above 50cents is just pure profits

[lorenzoinoc]

Design costs and tooling costs are a one-time deal, if you spread it out to thousands of grips then they are almost nothing...Advertising and endorsement costs are the two high-priced items, Even so I believe that anything above 50cents is just pure profits

You've never run a business, have you? And you missed my post containing other irrefutable things. For instance, what about alimony?

[indacup]

Actually the cost of CRUDE rubber as of last month was around $1.40lb....abouut a year ago, it was about $3.00.

One of the reasons a popular grip company told me they were raising their rates about 34%...oddly enough, after the price dropped in crude costs, the grips did not.

Regardless, the rubber used in grips are not virgin crude rubber, they all use various blends and as mentioned above, there are a plethora of other costs involved in manufacturing grips...and the molds are not a single make and run forever...those molds have to be maintained, sharpened and repaired constantly....

Again, the bulk of the expense is NOT the material...it's all the the expenses involved to bring that product to you.

It's like complaining that DVD's should just cost less than a buck because average cost of the material is less than .40cents

[Pky6471]

You've never run a business, have you? And you missed my post containing other irrefutable things. For instance, what about alimony?

hahahaha... that takes a big chunk out of profits... just like what Tiger is going thru now,,, that's why those men/women with tons of money MUST have a prenup

[lorenzoinoc]

Actually the cost of CRUDE rubber as of last month was around $1.40lb....abouut a year ago, it was about $3.00.

One of the reasons a popular grip company told me they were raising their rates about 34%...oddly enough, after the price dropped in crude costs, the grips did not.

Regardless, the rubber used in grips are not virgin crude rubber, they all use various blends and as mentioned above, there are a plethora of other costs involved in manufacturing grips...and the molds are not a single make and run forever...those molds have to be maintained, sharpened and repaired constantly....

Again, the bulk of the expense is NOT the material...it's all the the expenses involved to bring that product to you.

It's like complaining that DVD's should just cost less than a buck because average cost of the material is less than .40cents

He probably thinks sex is free once you're married, too.

[Pky6471]

Hold on. You're saying they don't pay for the manufacturing facility, salespeople, R&D, machinery, insurance, taxes, health care, administration and staff, legal fees, licenses and alimony?

Where are they making them? I'd like to do business there.

So, here is the question for you... How much does it cost Intel and AMD to make Quad-core chip? Do you want to guess? market price/ street price is about $150/chip

[Jeff_h]

So, here is the question for you... How much does it cost Intel and AMD to make Quad-core chip? Do you want to guess? market price/ street price is about $150/chip

COGS for Intel in the first quarter of FY2010 was 36.6% on revenue of $10.3 Billion and gives gross margin as 63.4%.

Operating income was $3.45 Billion.

Net income was $2.442 Billion which yielded $0.43 per share.

Do you need me to decipher that for you?

As was mentioned previously, the amount it costs a company in materials to make a certain product is a very small factor in the bottom line.

[lorenzoinoc]

I don't know AMD enough to spot issues translating their revenue and cogs into actual margin, in light of things like roylaties, licenses, capitalizing vs. expensing cost and accounting manipulation, but assuming their margin is huge, what's your point? Can you make a computer chip? If their profits's unreasonable then go compete against them. That's how a free economy is supposed to work.

[SoonerBS]

COGS for Intel in the first quarter of FY2010 was 36.6% on revenue of $10.3 Billion and gives gross margin as 63.4%.

Operating income was $3.45 Billion.

Net income was $2.442 Billion which yielded $0.43 per share.

Do you need me to decipher that for you?

As was mentioned previously, the amount it costs a company in materials to make a certain product is a very small factor in the bottom line.

At least it is here in America . . . . . . anyone have any doubts as to why everything is being done in China now days?

[indacup]

He probably thinks sex is free once you're married, too.

LOL.....cost twice as much and get it have as often!

[lorenzoinoc]

LOL.....cost twice as much and get it have as often!

Want fee sex...one word.....Cougar.....and it's often because they hope you'll be paying later .

[Pky6471]

I don't know AMD enough to spot issues translating their revenue and cogs into actual margin, in light of things like roylaties, licenses, capitalizing vs. expensing cost and accounting manipulation, but assuming their margin is huge, what's your point? Can you make a computer chip? If their profits's unreasonable then go compete against them. That's how a free economy is supposed to work.

My point is there is a huge margin in most products. Quad-core costs Intel and AMD ~$10 to make, that's material and labor and everything else, going out of the door. The different between $10 and market price is a profit between a manufacturer and a middle man. Back to grip, as I said, it would cost a manufacturer 50 cents (If i could guess) going out of the door, the difference between that and market price is a profit between a manufacturer and a middle man like Golf Galaxy or Dick's.

[indacup]

My point is there is a huge margin in most products. Quad-core costs Intel and AMD ~$10 to make, that's material and labor and everything else, going out of the door. The different between $10 and market price is a profit between a manufacturer and a middle man. Back to grip, as I said, it would cost a manufacturer 50 cents (If i could guess) going out of the door, the difference between that and market price is a profit between a manufacturer and a middle man like Golf Galaxy or Dick's.

There are SOOO many intangible expenses in bringing a product to the marketplace, you have no idea.

I’m afraid all you see is what you perceive to be raw material cost, a few bucks to make a mold and viola! Instant profit.

I don’t wanna veer too far off the subject, but let me tell you about a recent experience I have been going thru.

About 2 years ago a friend in the industry and I decided to create a unique golf shaft.

I contacted my friend who works for one of the largest manufacturers of premium golf shafts and while carbon prices were not cheap….after doing some “glossing over” we figured we’d be able to make what we wanted, at a retail price around $75.

Not a chance.

To have it produced under their logo required us to share in their overhead expenses which included, but not limited to, payroll (here and abroad), mfg charges, R&D expenses (even though WE are doing the R&D), insurance, set up charges, mold design and rental fees, shipping on R&D samples that would arrive weekly from China as we tested and refined the product, insurance employee + liability…just to mention a few…then comes separate fees for artwork design (even though we had our own ideas) and paint that will flex but not crack or wear, warehouse charges of raw material and finished goods, actual cost of labor for pre and post production as well as delivery from China to USA distribution points, then finally to one of our two shops.

Then, of course, the real big expenses was as long as we kept their name on the shaft, we would have to pay our share of their advertsing expenses…which added about another 34% of our costs.

By the time we calculated all the expenses, there would be no way we could provide what we wanted, for a retail price under $250.

Yup, $250 for a shaft incorporating about $27 bucks worth of high end carbon.

Last August, we came to an agreement to get around the bulk of the charges…..we ended up going to their parent company, removing their name from the shaft (as manufacturer). In exchange we had to pay them an upfront payment to assure our exclusive rights to the design. Basically we hired them as a contractor for us.

This removed much of the intangible expenses, but STILL, this was not a cheap venture.

So instead of having a product out within three months, we had to economize and take about a year to create the same thing, but at a greater cost savings. Biggest savings was split between advertising and R&D, they would make each sample run to our specs, but nothing else...each weekly samples were sent to my to test and modify and trust me, paying 2 day delivery from China, 1-2x's a week adds up.

Bottom line, don’t think that creating a product as as simple and cheap as calling up some guy in production and asking him to whip out a few thousand items off the notes ya made on a post-it, at 80% profit margin.

[lorenzoinoc]

My point is there is a huge margin in most products. Quad-core costs Intel and AMD ~$10 to make, that's material and labor and everything else, going out of the door. The different between $10 and market price is a profit between a manufacturer and a middle man. Back to grip, as I said, it would cost a manufacturer 50 cents (If i could guess) going out of the door, the difference between that and market price is a profit between a manufacturer and a middle man like Golf Galaxy or Dick's.

Why don't you compare grip price against the cost of the company's office desktop computers? It would have the same relevance as materials and make just as much sense. Using that approach, a computer costs around $500 while a grip only costs a few dollars. What a freakin' bargain!

I can see why your employer keeps you in a lab.

[Jeff_h]

My point is there is a huge margin in most products. Quad-core costs Intel and AMD ~$10 to make, that's material and labor and everything else, going out of the door. The different between $10 and market price is a profit between a manufacturer and a middle man. Back to grip, as I said, it would cost a manufacturer 50 cents (If i could guess) going out of the door, the difference between that and market price is a profit between a manufacturer and a middle man like Golf Galaxy or Dick's.

Wow......

Go take some business classes man.

For real.

How about another "real world" example?

Everyone loves Titleist ProV1 golf balls right???? But GODDAM they're expensive!!!! $45 a dozen?????? HOLY CRAP!

By your logic, all the profit that must be there goes to the middle man.

Wanna know how much dealer cost is?

How much Dick's pays?

$42 per dozen.

They have a markup of $3.00 per fecking dozen.

[Pky6471]

Wow......

Go take some business classes man.

For real.

How about another "real world" example?

Everyone loves Titleist ProV1 golf balls right???? But GODDAM they're expensive!!!! $45 a dozen?????? HOLY CRAP!

By your logic, all the profit that must be there goes to the middle man.

Wanna know how much dealer cost is?

How much Dick's pays?

$42 per dozen.

They have a markup of $3.00 per fecking dozen.

If we could find a brand new ProV1 for $27.50 on internet, then there is no way that Dick's pays $42, ... Be real, Dick's can't stay in business by doing that... a smart man like you know that, right?

[ironman]

Lamkin Crossline Sof Cord.

[Jeff_h]

If we could find a brand new ProV1 for $27.50 on internet, then there is no way that Dick's pays $42, ... Be real, Dick's can't stay in business by doing that... a smart man like you know that, right?

You can find X-outs and logo over runs for that price, not first quality.

I used to be a Titleist dealer.....I can assure you I am being real.

[indacup]

If we could find a brand new ProV1 for $27.50 on internet, then there is no way that Dick's pays $42, ... Be real, Dick's can't stay in business by doing that... a smart man like you know that, right?

Okay, now I believe you are sniffing glue or something...where are you gonna find NEW, this years model ProV's, for $27???

Provide a link.

[Pky6471]

Okay, now I believe you are sniffing glue or something...where are you gonna find NEW, this years model ProV's, for $27???

Provide a link.

Do the search yourself, I don't want to advertise for anyone...

[lorenzoinoc]

You can find X-outs and logo over runs for that price, not first quality.

I used to be a Titleist dealer.....I can assure you I am being real.

I know that my club pays over $40 and judging by the quantity I see in the water, we go through quite a few. Alot of golf shops sell balls as loss leaders figuring they may lose a little when you factor in the type of operating costs Pkwy thinks don't exist, but view at as a necessary to get customers in the door.

[lorenzoinoc]

Okay, now I believe you are sniffing glue or something...where are you gonna find NEW, this years model ProV's, for $27???

Provide a link.

It's basic economics. You segment the demand curve, particularly if your unit cost is well below price. So for the sake of illustration, if Titleists's unit cost is $20, including retail markup, if any, then maximizing profit would require them to find ways to sell balls to those who would pay $27 but not $45. The only catch is they have to prevent those who would pay $45 from opting for the cheaper balls. So stamping perfectly good balls "Practice" or "X-Out" would accomplish that.

There are MBA-s everywhere these days.

[Jeff_h]

I know that my club pays over $40 and judging by the quantity I see in the water, we go through quite a few. Alot of golf shops sell balls as loss leaders figuring they may lose a little when you factor in the type of operating costs Pkwy thinks don't exist, but view at as a necessary to get customers in the door.

And then there's MAP (Minimum Advertised Price)

Try advertising ProV1's (new, first quality) at $27 per dozen and see what happens. You'll sell the sh!t out of them for a day or so until Acushnet figures out what's going on. Then you'll find out you can't get anymore Titleist stuff. Not just balls either. Anything. They'll cancel your account for violation of terms.

[indacup]

Do the search yourself, I don't want to advertise for anyone...

So you make a statement and cannot back it up?

Don't know where you learned your ethics, but where I come from, anyone who makes a claim and cannot back it up is a liar.

Not the first time you made a statement as fact in this thread and were wrong...(.i.e. cost of crude rubber).

[SoonerBS]

Hey?!! Where are we finding brand new Titleist Pro V1 golf balls for $27?? Wherever it is, sign me up for 10 dozen right now!