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    Where to practice fromm a 100 yards in......

    We here time and time again that we need to work on our games from a 100 yards in, and we try, but we still come up woefully short. Instructors say we practice the long game to much and they are right again! My retort to them is show me where the average golfer has access to a place that offers a golfer to practice from a 100 yards in? Oh the practice green for short greenside chips is ok but what about those criticle 90,80,75,60,50, yard shots? How about learning the carry to roll with various clubs at these different distances? You could pay a greens fee and bum around and practice but the courses are ussually to crowded to all any quality sessions and for 36 to 40 bucks a pop is it really worth it? So how does one do it?

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    This is a good point. Unless you can afford an expensive club with all the facilities including a number of practice greens on a range it is hard. I guess you might be able to find a piece of land and measure out a few markers yourself.
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    It always bothers me when I here Instructors say how amateurs practice their long games too much and don't do enough practice with their short games. They must truly be retarded! The way practice facilities are set up dictates the way we practice.

    Short game facilities are few and far between. It is my belief that most pros were able to find a facility where they could practice their short game whenever they wanted. There are solutions to this but they require extra effort.

    The best option is to get out on a course late in the day. If your local course has a super twilight rate it will be even better. This is where a cart comes in handy. When the course isn't busy you can usually spend as much time as you want on approaches and around the greens. If someone comes up behind you either wave them through or jump in your cart and search the course for a vacant hole.

    The other option is to get on some par three courses. Same deal, late in the day. This option is usually cheaper as the rates are often lower at an executive style course.

    Unless you have a resort style course near you with an awesome short game area, I don't know of many other ways to practice the short game. Most pros should realize this and not get so down on amateurs that don't have the access to needed facilities.

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    I go to executive courses. Plenty of holes that are between 100-125yds. On the par 4's, I hit an iron off the tee and try to leave myself 100yds out to practice the very shots you're talking about. Par 62 executive courses are overlooked far too often. Play it using nothing but irons, and don't tee the ball up at all. Play the whole thing from the grass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaz1975
    I go to executive courses. Plenty of holes that are between 100-125yds. On the par 4's, I hit an iron off the tee and try to leave myself 100yds out to practice the very shots you're talking about. Par 62 executive courses are overlooked far too often. Play it using nothing but irons, and don't tee the ball up at all. Play the whole thing from the grass.
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    That right there is the shiizzle.

    There's a little executive muni not far from me that fits this bill quite nicely. The range there sucks though. All mats all the time.

    There was another up in NC where I used to live called Knights Play. It was fully lit.
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    I'm with Yaz and Jeff. Even though my goat track is a shitty 9 holer it is still too long for practice form 100 in, but there is a little short par 3 course near a driving range not far from my house. I don't play it often, but if I had the time and wanted to sharpen the 100 and in game that would be the best place to do it. I have a young daughter who loves golf so far, so when she is a bit older and getting into the game I will no doubt take her to this course often. I will probably take nothing more than putter and the wedges, and maybe one longer club for the shots which call for a lower bump and run type shot. We all know you can't do that with the wedges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tee'd Off
    We here time and time again that we need to work on our games from a 100 yards in, and we try, but we still come up woefully short. Instructors say we practice the long game to much and they are right again! My retort to them is show me where the average golfer has access to a place that offers a golfer to practice from a 100 yards in? Oh the practice green for short greenside chips is ok but what about those criticle 90,80,75,60,50, yard shots? How about learning the carry to roll with various clubs at these different distances? You could pay a greens fee and bum around and practice but the courses are ussually to crowded to all any quality sessions and for 36 to 40 bucks a pop is it really worth it? So how does one do it?
    If you live in the USA in a populated area, there should be plenty of short game practice facilities within a short and easy drive from your home. There are three good such places
    10 minutes or less drive from my place and the cost is $0 US. Public school or local recreation and parks baseball or soccer fields. I prefer the baseball fields. I pace off yardages to either home plat or pitcher's mound. The good fields have dirt baselines and grass infield. I will go out 40, 50, 75, 100, 120, 140 yards with a couple of wedges and a 9 iron and aim at the pitcher's mound. If I come up short or go long, the dirt base paths represent bunkers or water. I don't leave until I can hit the grass around the mound 7 out of 10 shots. For me, this practice transfers quite nicely to the course. For close pitching, chipping and putting, there are two muni's within 15 minutes that have good practice greens. No bunkers but I've hit so many bloody sand shots in the last 55 years that it doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel
    If you live in the USA in a populated area, there should be plenty of short game practice facilities within a short and easy drive from your home. There are three good such places
    10 minutes or less drive from my place and the cost is $0 US. Public school or local recreation and parks baseball or soccer fields. I prefer the baseball fields. I pace off yardages to either home plat or pitcher's mound. The good fields have dirt baselines and grass infield. I will go out 40, 50, 75, 100, 120, 140 yards with a couple of wedges and a 9 iron and aim at the pitcher's mound. If I come up short or go long, the dirt base paths represent bunkers or water. I don't leave until I can hit the grass around the mound 7 out of 10 shots. For me, this practice transfers quite nicely to the course. For close pitching, chipping and putting, there are two muni's within 15 minutes that have good practice greens. No bunkers but I've hit so many bloody sand shots in the last 55 years that it doesn't matter.
    This is what I do. Not just because I can set up and laser cones, but because I can hit my shag bag balls instead of range balls. If I can get someone else to come with me, we set up two sets of cones just to one side of each other and hit balls in opposite directions. That reduces the time it takes to collect the balls. If you pull one in the direction of the other guy, you just yell fore and hope it doesn't get close because then you know he'll be aiming for you.

    You can also practice your club throwing in these types of places.
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    I have done this from time to time and it is helpful, but how does one learn the carry to role ratio for each club with this approach? A green is required for true mastery. While playing at a park helps you don't have the green to tell you how the ball reacts on the moss. Unless you plan on staying with one type of shot to launch and hope it sticks near the pin is pretty one dimensional and the pro's say you have to get creative with your short game.

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    Lucky

    Some people just live around some excellent practice facilities. When my in-laws and my wife and I were driving back from Utah, my father-in-law needed emergency medical services, so we stopped in Mesquite. To our shock, the clinic admitted him for several days, so my wife said, "Go play golf!" We stayed at Casablanca, a hotel with a casino and a golf course. The golf course had an amazing practice area that simulates the approach from a green from 80 yards in. Everything (the green, the approach area, the rough) was cut exactly like a green on the course.

    The best part: It was in July, 100-degree heat, and I was the only nutcase out there practicing. The facility also had a huge practice putting green with every undulation imaginable. I worked on every shot I could think of.

    I live in the Inland Empire of Southern California (San Bernardino area) , and there are times in the middle of summer when there are very few people on the courses. Those are the times when I have looked behind me, saw no one, pulled out several balls, and worked on those shots 100 yards and in. You just have to be ready for the opportunity when it presents itself.

    On slow rounds, I do the same thing with putting. So long as there is no one playing closely behind, I practice lag putts on the greens that give me the most trouble.

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    Right now I have one muni that has a free practice area with about 80 yards of space. I also have a range pass for the summer that has about 100 yards around a large green with two bunkers. There is usually nobody there but low cappers and college golf team players.

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    My home course (Oak Valley, Beaumont, CA) has a great all grass driving range with green/pin targets at various distances from about 70 yards up to 200+ yards. That's the best place for me to practice the wedge game. I feel sorry for those who don't have this sort of opportunity; it's hard to reproduce this experience without a properly set up practice range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poe4soul
    Right now I have one muni that has a free practice area with about 80 yards of space. I also have a range pass for the summer that has about 100 yards around a large green with two bunkers. There is usually nobody there but low cappers and college golf team players.
    And the occassional sod laying chopper by the sound of it.
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    That right there is the shiizzle.

    There's a little executive muni not far from me that fits this bill quite nicely. The range there sucks though. All mats all the time.

    There was another up in NC where I used to live called Knights Play. It was fully lit.
    Knight's Play is the shiot. 27 holes, fully lit, open till 11 or 12 PM. An ideal place for short game practice. It isn't a pitch and putt either, there's a couple of holes around 200 yards and I'd guess they average 140. I wish I lived closer to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaz1975
    I go to executive courses. Plenty of holes that are between 100-125yds. On the par 4's, I hit an iron off the tee and try to leave myself 100yds out to practice the very shots you're talking about. Par 62 executive courses are overlooked far too often. Play it using nothing but irons, and don't tee the ball up at all. Play the whole thing from the grass.
    Well, atleast now we know where you play. Any good golfer knows that executive courses are in terrible condition and are no place to practice. I hope you don't wear your tank top when you practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    Well, at least now we know where you play. Any good golfer knows that executive courses are in terrible condition and are no place to practice. I hope you don't wear your tank top when you practice.
    Longest hole there is 331yds, shortest is 105yds, 3600yds total, Par 62. Lovely Bermuda grass in a membership community. Just happens that it's across the street from my development, so it's a 3 minute drive and a 2 hour round if you want some quick practice. On days when you don't have time for a full length round, it's a great option.

    I wouldn't wear a tank top because I wouldn't want you to feel so bad about having those pendulous moobs that you've sprouted. You should try what your doppleganger Phil was into just so you don't have to feel so bad about your appearance and lash out at others like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaz1975
    Longest hole there is 331yds, shortest is 105yds, 3600yds total, Par 62. Lovely Bermuda grass in a membership community. Just happens that it's across the street from my development, so it's a 3 minute drive and a 2 hour round if you want some quick practice. On days when you don't have time for a full length round, it's a great option.

    I wouldn't wear a tank top because I wouldn't want you to feel so bad about having those pendulous moobs that you've sprouted. You should try what your doppleganger Phil was into just so you don't have to feel so bad about your appearance and lash out at others like this.
    This is GR so lashing out is not really lashing out. I was being funny and you obviously got hurt so I'm sorry for making fun of your wardrobe. I don't have boobs but you obviously do and you're using me as trasference for your own sagging pecs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel
    If you live in the USA in a populated area, there should be plenty of short game practice facilities within a short and easy drive from your home. There are three good such places
    10 minutes or less drive from my place and the cost is $0 US. Public school or local recreation and parks baseball or soccer fields. I prefer the baseball fields. I pace off yardages to either home plat or pitcher's mound. The good fields have dirt baselines and grass infield. I will go out 40, 50, 75, 100, 120, 140 yards with a couple of wedges and a 9 iron and aim at the pitcher's mound. If I come up short or go long, the dirt base paths represent bunkers or water. I don't leave until I can hit the grass around the mound 7 out of 10 shots. For me, this practice transfers quite nicely to the course. For close pitching, chipping and putting, there are two muni's within 15 minutes that have good practice greens. No bunkers but I've hit so many bloody sand shots in the last 55 years that it doesn't matter.
    This is a nice way to get fined by a parks and recreation Ranger where I live. I still see some idiots doing this but every city maintained park has a sign that specifically prohibits golf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    This is GR so lashing out is not really lashing out. I was being funny and you obviously got hurt so I'm sorry for making fun of your wardrobe. I don't have boobs but you obviously do and you're using me as trasference for your own sagging pecs.
    This is me on the phone. Laughing. At you. And your boobs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaz1975
    This is me on the phone. Laughing. At you. And your boobs.

    You really do look like William Shatner. BTW, I see a martini shaker but I see absolutely no Red Sox paraphenalia whatsoever. Come on, Ortiz is hitting again, the bullpen's been incredible, as has Buck and Lester, a couple more starters return to form and they'll quickly over take the young and impressive Rays and the evil and disgusting Yankee whores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lorenzoinoc
    You really do look like William Shatner. BTW, I see a martini shaker but I see absolutely no Red Sox paraphenalia whatsoever. Come on, Ortiz is hitting again, the bullpen's been incredible, as has Buck and Lester, a couple more starters return to form and they'll quickly over take the young and impressive Rays and the evil and disgusting Yankee whores.
    I should have pulled up my left sleeve so you could see the Sox logo tattoo.

    My bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaz1975
    I should have pulled up my left sleeve so you could see the Sox logo tattoo.

    My bad.
    I salute you brother.
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    The muni where I am a member has a practice facility aside from the regular range where you can go and practice your 100 yards and in game. I also go around on week days and find empty holes on the course and hit some balls from those yardages.

    That is why you need to use a cart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDB1
    This is a nice way to get fined by a parks and recreation Ranger where I live. I still see some idiots doing this but every city maintained park has a sign that specifically prohibits golf.
    Hitting balls is not prohibited on the ballfields and in the parks owned by the jurisdiction where I live. Alcohol consumption and dogs off-leash are but people violate those rules regularly. I will gladly put up with dodging the occasional empty Thunderbird quart or poodle turd to practice my game. I pity you the small minded dolts who adminster your public recreation facilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaz1975
    This is me on the phone. Laughing. At you. And your boobs.

    You look like someone that watches too much cage fighting and screams when you work out at the gym.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tee'd Off
    We here time and time again that we need to work on our games from a 100 yards in, and we try, but we still come up woefully short. Instructors say we practice the long game to much and they are right again! My retort to them is show me where the average golfer has access to a place that offers a golfer to practice from a 100 yards in? Oh the practice green for short greenside chips is ok but what about those criticle 90,80,75,60,50, yard shots? How about learning the carry to roll with various clubs at these different distances? You could pay a greens fee and bum around and practice but the courses are ussually to crowded to all any quality sessions and for 36 to 40 bucks a pop is it really worth it? So how does one do it?
    First off, you can practice getting the carry part of the shot right on any range. Since all of these shots are to a greater or lesser extent judged by eye, you can simply pick a golf ball that is lying on the range as a target even if they haven't provided you a specific target with a know distance to shoot at. Most ranges I use include flags down to as short as 50 yards, and the better ones have signs for each stall (or each group of a few stalls) giving the exact distance to every flag out there.

    Sure, you're still going to need to learn precisely what amount of roll you're going to get, but you can learn that pretty quickly out on the course, and if you get the carry you intended even a shot where you've misjudged the roll you were going to get is still going to work out pretty well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    You look like someone that watches too much cage fighting and screams when you work out at the gym.
    Wrong on both accounts.

    But given that you're rarely right, that's not a shock.

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