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    Forged Blades

    OK, since Sooner gave the Ping Eye 2s a try I've decided to do a three month experiment with the following set:

    Titleist 690 MB irons
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    Dynamic Gold S-300

    I think these came out in 2002 or 2003. I got them for $135 in excellent condition but I'll need to replace the original Titleist cord grips. They should be here in a week so I can play with them the following weekend. Should be interesting and I'll follow up with the results.

    I'm also going to switch out my Ping Eye 2 SW and Ping M/B 52 for used Titleist Vokey Raw 52 and 56. Stay tuned. I know you're all on the edge of your seats.

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    If you dislike them, let me know.

    I'm hoping you do, for selfish purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mward2002
    If you dislike them, let me know.

    I'm hoping you do, for selfish purposes.
    If I find them a trite stingy I shall inform you immediately. I've decided to speak with a bit of a snooty edge now that I'm bagging forged blades. May all of you sod laying choppers limit yourself to the goat tracks. Way forward I shall only converse with those who share my esteem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    OK, since Sooner gave the Ping Eye 2s a try I've decided to do a three month experiment with the following set:

    Titleist 690 MB irons
    3-PW
    Dynamic Gold S-300

    I think these came out in 2002 or 2003. I got them for $135 in excellent condition but I'll need to replace the original Titleist cord grips. They should be here in a week so I can play with them the following weekend. Should be interesting and I'll follow up with the results.

    I'm also going to switch out my Ping Eye 2 SW and Ping M/B 52 for used Titleist Vokey Raw 52 and 56. Stay tuned. I know you're all on the edge of your seats.
    I have a Vokey Raw 52 and 58 in my bag currently and have been playing them all Summer. I also have a 56, but I do not need it with the 58 and 52.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerBS
    I have a Vokey Raw 52 and 58 in my bag currently and have been playing them all Summer. I also have a 56, but I do not need it with the 58 and 52.
    I would take you up on that but I have a gift card for Golf Mart here in SD. I'm surprised you haven't tried that new Mizuno wedge. What's it called? I was thinking Jaws but that's Callaway.

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    Mizuno wedge is the mpt-11. I have the mpt10s, fantastic wedges, puts just the right amount of spin and won't shred the ball up. Good luck with the blades, you'll love them, I haven't hit them personally but blades are guaranteed to feel better than any cast cavities.
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    You want forged blades? I'll give you forged blades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qtong
    Mizuno wedge is the mpt-11. I have the mpt10s, fantastic wedges, puts just the right amount of spin and win shred the ball up. Good luck with the blades, you'll love them, I haven't hit them personally but blades are guaranteed to feel better than any cast cavities.
    I like the way the MPt 10s look but I'm gonna go with the Titleist Vokey Raw wedges. I like the raw look and I can spin 'em even if I'm in O'Reily's no spin zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24putts
    You want forged blades? I'll give you forged blades.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ARNOLD-PALMER-RE...item563f205160
    ....... wow. Those are sexy. Damn, if I don't already have mp68s I'd jump on those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    I like the way the MPt 10s look but I'm gonna go with the Titleist Vokey Raw wedges. I like the raw look and I can spin 'em even if I'm in O'Reily's no spin zone.
    I have a 52* MP T10. Like it alot but I like the Cally X Forged better, even though it shreds the ball...Its fun to watch and whatever its only money.....

    Not a fan of the vokeys. I might be the only GR member who thinks that way, but I prefer the CG line better. I have a CG15 PW. 46* PW (cg15), 51* GW (cally x forged), 56* SW (cally x forged). Both the 52 (which is bent to 51*) and 56 have the mack daddy c-grind features so they are versatile clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Helmet
    I have a 52* MP T10. Like it alot but I like the Cally X Forged better, even though it shreds the ball...Its fun to watch and whatever its only money.....

    Not a fan of the vokeys. I might be the only GR member who thinks that way, but I prefer the CG line better. I have a CG15 PW. 46* PW (cg15), 51* GW (cally x forged), 56* SW (cally x forged). Both the 52 (which is bent to 51*) and 56 have the mack daddy c-grind features so they are versatile clubs.
    I agree, I am not a fan on the vokeys but then again I don't like the CG series either. Those mizunos are by far my favorite, I do have the x-tour callaway for my 60* and like that, but I don't like the mac daddy grooves. Gets me into trouble spinning the ball off the green. But wedge wise, my vote is for
    1. mizuno mpt series
    2. callaway x-tour, x forged
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Helmet
    I have a 52* MP T10. Like it alot but I like the Cally X Forged better, even though it shreds the ball...Its fun to watch and whatever its only money.....

    Not a fan of the vokeys. I might be the only GR member who thinks that way, but I prefer the CG line better. I have a CG15 PW. 46* PW (cg15), 51* GW (cally x forged), 56* SW (cally x forged). Both the 52 (which is bent to 51*) and 56 have the mack daddy c-grind features so they are versatile clubs.
    I may go with the Callaway X forged vintage with mac daddy grooves. I tried the 60 degree for one round and couldn't believe the way it spun the ball. The 52 and 58 would be a good combo and they're going for around $69 new right now anyway. I don't like the newer Vokeys but I do like the Vokey Raw series. It has a little circle toward the toe and it says something like "8315". Must be some secret code that you must unlock and then enter a hidden world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qtong
    I agree, I am not a fan on the vokeys but then again I don't like the CG series either. Those mizunos are by far my favorite, I do have the x-tour callaway for my 60* and like that, but I don't like the mac daddy grooves. Gets me into trouble spinning the ball off the green. But wedge wise, my vote is for
    1. mizuno mpt series
    2. callaway x-tour, x forged
    I like the way the Cally x forged frames the ball at address. Personal preference. The MP-T10 is a fine wedge indeed, but to my novice eye, it looks rather small behind the ball. Just me maybe...
    If Cally made a lefty PW in its X Forged line I would play that vs the CG15, but alas, southpaws are left out of some of the lineup. Im used to it though...every OEM (or whatever it is) does it.
    I do putt righty though - so I got all kinds of options! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    I may go with the Callaway X forged vintage with mac daddy grooves. I tried the 60 degree for one round and couldn't believe the way it spun the ball. The 52 and 58 would be a good combo and they're going for around $69 new right now anyway. I don't like the newer Vokeys but I do like the Vokey Raw series. It has a little circle toward the toe and it says something like "8315". Must be some secret code that you must unlock and then enter a hidden world.
    Vintage will rust over time, which may or may not be your cup of tea. Personally Im not a fan but to each their own.
    I did pick up an additional 52 and 56 X Forged (chrome) for $69/each at Rockbottom-new. With the companies having to stop making the U grooves 12-31-10 I decided to get some backups when my current ones wear out. I miss so many greens that will happen sooner than later....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Helmet
    Vintage will rust over time, which may or may not be your cup of tea. Personally Im not a fan but to each their own.
    I did pick up an additional 52 and 56 X Forged (chrome) for $69/each at Rockbottom-new. With the companies having to stop making the U grooves 12-31-10 I decided to get some backups when my current ones wear out. I miss so many greens that will happen sooner than later....
    Lord H,

    Does the chrome version have mac daddy grooves? For me it's all about spinnin' it with mac daddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    Lord H,

    Does the chrome version have mac daddy grooves? For me it's all about spinnin' it with mac daddy.
    Both the Vintage and Chrome will have the MD grooves/C Grind. Caveat: Some lofts/bounce wedges dont. It should be relatively easy to distinguish though....should be advertised as which version it is..and the clubhead itself will have the 'MD' designation on the hosel as well as the c-grind stamped on it back of the club. I like the c grind. Allows you to open the face w/out lifting up the leading edge. Mine look like this:



    Hope this helps. Feel free to ask any further questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Helmet
    Both the Vintage and Chrome will have the MD grooves/C Grind. Caveat: Some lofts/bounce wedges dont. It should be relatively easy to distinguish though....should be advertised as which version it is..and the clubhead itself will have the 'MD' designation on the hosel as well as the c-grind stamped on it back of the club. I like the c grind. Allows you to open the face w/out lifting up the leading edge. Mine look like this:



    Hope this helps. Feel free to ask any further questions.
    I have that model in 58* except I don't have the C Grind, just the standard grind. I also have a 52* CG 12.

    I also have the old model Cleveland 588 in 56* & 60* but I usually carry 52* & 56* or 52* & 58*.

    I used to carry 52*, 56* & 60* but I hate having to leave a club out at the long end of the bag so two specialist wedges + PW is my preference.

    I've always like the Cleveland wedges but I am getting to like the Callaway X Forged now too. Never played the Mizuno wedges but I have played the Vokey wedges in the past and thought it was Ok.

    You're not alone in your opinion of the Vokey's though Lord Helmet. Horseballs is another vocal critic of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    OK, since Sooner gave the Ping Eye 2s a try I've decided to do a three month experiment with the following set:

    Titleist 690 MB irons
    3-PW
    Dynamic Gold S-300

    I think these came out in 2002 or 2003. I got them for $135 in excellent condition but I'll need to replace the original Titleist cord grips. They should be here in a week so I can play with them the following weekend. Should be interesting and I'll follow up with the results.

    I'm also going to switch out my Ping Eye 2 SW and Ping M/B 52 for used Titleist Vokey Raw 52 and 56. Stay tuned. I know you're all on the edge of your seats.
    Good choice for the test. That head is actually a tad larger than some blades (bigger than FG17 by far) and very forgiving... but still sweet in the center.

    Incidentally, I do like that driver, more than I thought I would.. I'll take you up on your offer to keep it.. :-)

    I have a 690MB 2 iron on a PX6.0 that is one of my favorite long irons to hit.. almost can't miss with it. A very good clubhead.
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    Whilst I applaud Famousdavis for trying the blades I just hope he realises that if they fail the test as the Ping Eye 2's did in Sooner's experiment the results will meaningless since he wasn't using GFF.
    I chose the road less traveled.

    Now where the f#ck am I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
    I have that model in 58* except I don't have the C Grind, just the standard grind. I also have a 52* CG 12.

    I also have the old model Cleveland 588 in 56* & 60* but I usually carry 52* & 56* or 52* & 58*.

    I used to carry 52*, 56* & 60* but I hate having to leave a club out at the long end of the bag so two specialist wedges + PW is my preference.

    I've always like the Cleveland wedges but I am getting to like the Callaway X Forged now too. Never played the Mizuno wedges but I have played the Vokey wedges in the past and thought it was Ok.

    You're not alone in your opinion of the Vokey's though Lord Helmet. Horseballs is another vocal critic of them.
    Both my 52 and 56 have the c grind which offers the versatility of opening the face w/out the leading edge coming up. This allows me to play a higher trajectory shot if need be. I just carry the 2 callys plus the PW. With the 56, I can open it up and it plays probably more like your 58 or so. Thats all I need.
    Now that you mention it - I do recall a thread where HB mentioned not liking the Vokey. Ive tried to hit them, just dont like them. The CG15 and X Forged both frame the ball well at address, and to me thats huge.
    Hope all is well w/ you kiwi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Helmet
    Both my 52 and 56 have the c grind which offers the versatility of opening the face w/out the leading edge coming up. This allows me to play a higher trajectory shot if need be. I just carry the 2 callys plus the PW. With the 56, I can open it up and it plays probably more like your 58 or so. Thats all I need.
    Now that you mention it - I do recall a thread where HB mentioned not liking the Vokey. Ive tried to hit them, just dont like them. The CG15 and X Forged both frame the ball well at address, and to me thats huge.
    Hope all is well w/ you kiwi.
    Yep, I hate the Vokeys. I think old man Vokey is losing it upstairs. For me, a wedge needs a certain amount of spin (not too much, not too little) and it has to feel good on chips and pitches. The CG series, even though cast, feel soft. The Vokeys feel harsh and that works its way in my head. A placebo effect, not unlike the chopper who buys the $600 wedge or shaft.
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    My old Mizuno RS50 "Sand Rough" Lob next to the Cally X Tour 60 MD.

    Who says Mizuno can't make a good garden trowel... looks at the hosel on that beast.
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    My old Mizuno RS50 "Sand Rough" Lob next to the Cally X Tour 60 MD.

    Who says Mizuno can't make a good garden trowel... looks at the hosel on that beast.
    My brother in law had one of those bad boys. Thing weighed a metric sh!tload.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPS
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    My old Mizuno RS50 "Sand Rough" Lob next to the Cally X Tour 60 MD.

    Who says Mizuno can't make a good garden trowel... looks at the hosel on that beast.
    Hosel size is not an indicator of chopperosity. In fact, the bigger the hosel, the more likely the club is playa. Look at Callaway's hosel-less designs. Clubhead size is another story.
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    That's an old school club vs a modern club. plus one is tear drop vs round. wtf, like comparing cavities to blades.
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    Another vote for the Mizuno MPT. I recently bought a 56/10 sand wedge and am really happy with it. Has a sole grind that i haven't seen before that allows you to open it up without the leading edge being too high off the turf.
    It feels great, spins well and sets up very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldplayer
    Another vote for the Mizuno MPT. I recently bought a 56/10 sand wedge and am really happy with it. Has a sole grind that i haven't seen before that allows you to open it up without the leading edge being too high off the turf.
    It feels great, spins well and sets up very well.
    It might seem like a good sole grind but it's got nothing on a fully customised Scratch wedge with the sole ground to your exact specifications. No way an off the shelf OEM is even coming close to a fully customised Scratch wedge. Think of all the shots you are missing out on.
    I chose the road less traveled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
    It might seem like a good sole grind but it's got nothing on a fully customised Scratch wedge with the sole ground to your exact specifications. No way an off the shelf OEM is even coming close to a fully customised Scratch wedge. Think of all the shots you are missing out on.
    Yeah I supose you are right, but this wedge plays at least 3/4 of all the shots and only cost $95 new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldplayer
    Yeah I supose you are right, but this wedge plays at least 3/4 of all the shots and only cost $95 new.
    OP

    You only saved $500, perhaps you need to question your commitment to this game.

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    Put me down as a Vokey hater. I've only used their older wedges, but they were too heavy and felt very harsh. Clevelands always have and still are far superior to Vokey, and Mizuno has started making some fine wedges of late too. The Cally and Nike wedges spin the tits off the ball, but I think Cleveland and Mizuno are better all round weges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgey
    OP

    You only saved $500, perhaps you need to question your commitment to this game.

    Edgey
    Agreed. With that attitude he'll only ever be 3/4 of the golfer he could be.
    I chose the road less traveled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
    Agreed. With that attitude he'll only ever be 3/4 of the golfer he could be.
    Hey, go easy. this uncommitted, 3/4 player shot nett 69 to win the comp today. Also qualified to play for a spot in the WGITO played in Malaysia next year. (world golf international team event)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
    Whilst I applaud Famousdavis for trying the blades I just hope he realises that if they fail the test as the Ping Eye 2's did in Sooner's experiment the results will meaningless since he wasn't using GFF.
    Actually it will be more meaningful because the Titleist blade is superior to your GFF. Get back to drinking your Mizuno Koolaid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horseballs
    Hosel size is not an indicator of chopperosity. In fact, the bigger the hosel, the more likely the club is playa. Look at Callaway's hosel-less designs. Clubhead size is another story.
    Well, I realize that. But this thing is out of control and I think it has an offset. On the other hand, I had some consistent chipping with this thing back in the day.

    I just went from a non-hosel Cally to a hosel Titleist driver and it seemed to cure some of the pulls the Cally was producing (I noticed Cally's FT Tour now has a hosel). On the other hand, I still play a non-hosel Cally 3-wood with a .350 Fujikura E370 (only a $60 shaft, so you can relax HB). That plays plenty strong for not having the hosel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daveperkins
    Good choice for the test. That head is actually a tad larger than some blades (bigger than FG17 by far) and very forgiving... but still sweet in the center.

    Incidentally, I do like that driver, more than I thought I would.. I'll take you up on your offer to keep it.. :-)

    I have a 690MB 2 iron on a PX6.0 that is one of my favorite long irons to hit.. almost can't miss with it. A very good clubhead.
    I don't think anything is as small as the FG-17 with the exception of the FG59. I think the FG59 is the best looking blade I've ever seen. They improved the short irons with less offset and a smaller head than the FG-17. I picked up a Titleist 670 the other day and the heads were VERY small. I like the 690 because the heads are a little larger but still have little to no offset. We'll see how it goes. I'm just grateful that I made the choice for Titleist rather than Mizuno. Mizuno's seems to get all rusty and fall apart after a season or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldplayer
    Hey, go easy. this uncommitted, 3/4 player shot nett 69 to win the comp today. Also qualified to play for a spot in the WGITO played in Malaysia next year. (world golf international team event)
    If you had made that $600 commitment you would be a shoe in for the Aussie Open as opposed to some tuppenny halfpenny golf tourney in a god forsaken hell hole like Malaysia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldplayer
    Hey, go easy. this uncommitted, 3/4 player shot nett 69 to win the comp today. Also qualified to play for a spot in the WGITO played in Malaysia next year. (world golf international team event)
    Congrats OP well done. What does WGITO stand for?
    I chose the road less traveled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
    Congrats OP well done. What does WGITO stand for?
    World Golf International Tournament Open?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
    Congrats OP well done. What does WGITO stand for?
    Sorry, got the acronym wrong. It is in fact the World Amateur Inter-Team Golf Championship (WAITGC), to be played in Malaysia.
    I have only reached 1st. stage qualifying so it is unlikely I will go any further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    OK, since Sooner gave the Ping Eye 2s a try I've decided to do a three month experiment with the following set:

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    I think these came out in 2002 or 2003. I got them for $135 in excellent condition but I'll need to replace the original Titleist cord grips. They should be here in a week so I can play with them the following weekend. Should be interesting and I'll follow up with the results.

    I'm also going to switch out my Ping Eye 2 SW and Ping M/B 52 for used Titleist Vokey Raw 52 and 56. Stay tuned. I know you're all on the edge of your seats.
    Went to Golf Mart during lunch and looked through the used bins for some Vokey wedges. None were in good enough shape so I passed. Next, I went to the used driver bins and found a Titleist 907 D2 8.5 Degree driver with Aldila DVS Stiff shaft. I paid $85 for it and it's in near new condition. I've been looking for an 8.5 model for some time so I can't wait until Friday to try it out. The red shaft and black head look very cool and I'm pretty sure a crowd will be gathered on the first tee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    I would take you up on that but I have a gift card for Golf Mart here in SD. I'm surprised you haven't tried that new Mizuno wedge. What's it called? I was thinking Jaws but that's Callaway.
    Take me up on what? I'm not parting with my Vokeys.

    I bought a custom made Mizuno wedge a year ago straight from the factory with my specs. I don't like it. The Vokeys are better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
    Whilst I applaud Famousdavis for trying the blades I just hope he realises that if they fail the test as the Ping Eye 2's did in Sooner's experiment the results will meaningless since he wasn't using GFF.
    Very good point here, Kiwi. I'm glad you pointed it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerBS
    Take me up on what? I'm not parting with my Vokeys.

    I bought a custom made Mizuno wedge a year ago straight from the factory with my specs. I don't like it. The Vokeys are better.
    Thanks for the offer but I've never liked Mizuno wedges. If you still want to sell me the Vokey 56 I'll buy it for $19.99 but only if it's in 9.5/10 condition. I'm not buying some wedge covered with dings and gouges because of your tendency to hit wild Mizuno iron shots onto gravel paths or into a rock quarry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldplayer
    Sorry, got the acronym wrong. It is in fact the World Amateur Inter-Team Golf Championship (WAITGC), to be played in Malaysia.
    I have only reached 1st. stage qualifying so it is unlikely I will go any further.
    Ah right, well good luck. If you are lucky enough to get to Malaysia you might has well make a small side trip to Vietnam and hook up for a round with Tessee.
    I chose the road less traveled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    Went to Golf Mart during lunch and looked through the used bins for some Vokey wedges. None were in good enough shape so I passed. Next, I went to the used driver bins and found a Titleist 907 D2 8.5 Degree driver with Aldila DVS Stiff shaft. I paid $85 for it and it's in near new condition. I've been looking for an 8.5 model for some time so I can't wait until Friday to try it out. The red shaft and black head look very cool and I'm pretty sure a crowd will be gathered on the first tee.
    Man you must be the reigning King of GR Club Ho's.

    From now on I am going to refer to you as 'Your Royal Ho'ness'
    I chose the road less traveled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldplayer
    Sorry, got the acronym wrong. It is in fact the World Amateur Inter-Team Golf Championship (WAITGC), to be played in Malaysia.
    I have only reached 1st. stage qualifying so it is unlikely I will go any further.
    Congrats on qualifying OP, great stuff. Unfortunately I have to agree you wn't be going ay further. I've had some friends who have played in Malaysia and apparently they have got sand bagging dwon to a fine art. They are big money players in Asia and need the extar shots to have a chance. I've heard of pros in pro ams in Malaysia and Singapore struggling to beat 11 and 12 markers off the stick. Enjoy thetrip anyway, just qualifying is the prize.

    FD, that driver should be a pretty good combo. 8.5 is pretty low, but the DVS shaft is a pretty high launching shaft so you should bomb it. I've heard mixed reports about the D2, but the bad reports are from choppers who can't handle that much club. On the subject of drivers, I took my Cally FT5 out today. It's a 9 degree neutral bias with a Blueboard 63 Stiff. When I first got it I took it out for a round and couldn't hit it for shitt, but today it was like a different club. I was bombing straight high drives down the pipe all day. I can't remember having so much confidence with a driver standing over the ball. I could swing smooth or jump on it and get the same feel and flight. I put a couple of bad swings on it and got much betterresults than my other drivers. The feel was very solid too. The sound took a little gettng used to, but I can't fault it's performance. Not sure whether it's the head or the shaft or both, but I think I've finally found a keeper that won't work it's way out of the bag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    Thanks for the offer but I've never liked Mizuno wedges. If you still want to sell me the Vokey 56 I'll buy it for $19.99 but only if it's in 9.5/10 condition. I'm not buying some wedge covered with dings and gouges because of your tendency to hit wild Mizuno iron shots onto gravel paths or into a rock quarry.
    None of my clubs are for sale, unless you're interested in Ping Eye 2s . . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a hacker
    Congrats on qualifying OP, great stuff. Unfortunately I have to agree you wn't be going ay further. I've had some friends who have played in Malaysia and apparently they have got sand bagging dwon to a fine art. They are big money players in Asia and need the extar shots to have a chance. I've heard of pros in pro ams in Malaysia and Singapore struggling to beat 11 and 12 markers off the stick. Enjoy thetrip anyway, just qualifying is the prize.

    FD, that driver should be a pretty good combo. 8.5 is pretty low, but the DVS shaft is a pretty high launching shaft so you should bomb it. I've heard mixed reports about the D2, but the bad reports are from choppers who can't handle that much club. On the subject of drivers, I took my Cally FT5 out today. It's a 9 degree neutral bias with a Blueboard 63 Stiff. When I first got it I took it out for a round and couldn't hit it for shitt, but today it was like a different club. I was bombing straight high drives down the pipe all day. I can't remember having so much confidence with a driver standing over the ball. I could swing smooth or jump on it and get the same feel and flight. I put a couple of bad swings on it and got much betterresults than my other drivers. The feel was very solid too. The sound took a little gettng used to, but I can't fault it's performance. Not sure whether it's the head or the shaft or both, but I think I've finally found a keeper that won't work it's way out of the bag.
    Actually, that worries me a bit if it's high launching. But the combo of 8.5 and the shaft might work pretty well. I guess I'll find out tomorrow. If nothing else it's by far the best looking driver I've seen...just a little better than the 905R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    Actually, that worries me a bit if it's high launching. But the combo of 8.5 and the shaft might work pretty well. I guess I'll find out tomorrow. If nothing else it's by far the best looking driver I've seen...just a little better than the 905R.
    I've been Jonesing for a 907D2 for awhile ever since we played a Florida muni last March teeing off in the first group after the last of the NCAA tournament guys went off #1. I peeked in the college guys' bags by the practice green before we went off and it looked like two thirds of the players were bagging 907D2's. The Golf Galaxy has had a fair number of them in the used bin in the past couple of months and I've hit every one in the computer stall but none of them feel as good or get as good numbers as the 905R I bag since I got it reshafted with a 75 gram V2 in regular flex. If I see a 907D2 with that shaft, it will be mine regardless of loft. All the new 909's I've hit have felt less solid than any of the bore-throughs from 975D to 907s.

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    The smallest blades ever are my '91 Macgregor VIP Limiteds. I'll post some pics if I ever get over my fear of technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 24putts
    The smallest blades ever are my '91 Macgregor VIP Limiteds. I'll post some pics if I ever get over my fear of technology.
    I think those are the exact replica of the Macgregor Jack Nicklaus Muirfields that I had in high school. Those things were so hard to hit but when you hit it pure it was better than a parfait. I mean, when's the last time you asked someone if they wanted a parfait and they said "no man, I don't like no parfait".

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    I think those are the exact replica of the Macgregor Jack Nicklaus Muirfields that I had in high school. Those things were so hard to hit but when you hit it pure it was better than a parfait. I mean, when's the last time you asked someone if they wanted a parfait and they said "no man, I don't like no parfait".
    I think this is a good point. We can argue cavity backs vs blades until the cows come home but I think the reality is that modern blades are slightly bigger and are much easier to hit than old school traditional blades.

    BTW I'll pass on the parfait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
    I think this is a good point. We can argue cavity backs vs blades until the cows come home but I think the reality is that modern blades are slightly bigger and are much easier to hit than old school traditional blades.

    BTW I'll pass on the parfait.
    Parfaits are one of the most delicious things you can order. That's absolutely true that modern blades are larger. The Wilson staffs were pretty small as well as the Hogans. My ping eye 2s are probably smaller than the MP-67.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    Parfaits are one of the most delicious things you can order. That's absolutely true that modern blades are larger. The Wilson staffs were pretty small as well as the Hogans. My ping eye 2s are probably smaller than the MP-67.
    I'm not really a desserts guy. Give me a second helping of the main any day!
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    Parfait is delicious, but not something I would go out of the way to order. There are too many better choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel
    I've been Jonesing for a 907D2 for awhile ever since we played a Florida muni last March teeing off in the first group after the last of the NCAA tournament guys went off #1. I peeked in the college guys' bags by the practice green before we went off and it looked like two thirds of the players were bagging 907D2's. The Golf Galaxy has had a fair number of them in the used bin in the past couple of months and I've hit every one in the computer stall but none of them feel as good or get as good numbers as the 905R I bag since I got it reshafted with a 75 gram V2 in regular flex. If I see a 907D2 with that shaft, it will be mine regardless of loft. All the new 909's I've hit have felt less solid than any of the bore-throughs from 975D to 907s.
    If you go to 3balls.com they have 5 of the 907 D2 drivers for sale at $89.95 in Very Good condition. Very Good for 3balls means excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    Parfaits are one of the most delicious things you can order. That's absolutely true that modern blades are larger. The Wilson staffs were pretty small as well as the Hogans. My ping eye 2s are probably smaller than the MP-67.
    They are not. I am comparing the 9 irons right now and I can set the 67 inside the PING Eye 2 and still see a tad bit of the PINGs still outlining the outside of the 67s. There is not a huge difference, but there is a difference.

    There is a HUGE difference though whenever you start discussing the toe of the club where the PING Eye 2 goes up like a pointy boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a hacker
    On the subject of drivers, I took my Cally FT5 out today. It's a 9 degree neutral bias with a Blueboard 63 Stiff. When I first got it I took it out for a round and couldn't hit it for shitt, but today it was like a different club. I was bombing straight high drives down the pipe all day. I can't remember having so much confidence with a driver standing over the ball. I could swing smooth or jump on it and get the same feel and flight. I put a couple of bad swings on it and got much betterresults than my other drivers. The feel was very solid too. The sound took a little gettng used to, but I can't fault it's performance. Not sure whether it's the head or the shaft or both, but I think I've finally found a keeper that won't work it's way out of the bag.
    It sounds like you went through the process I did with a FT-3. I got a FT-3 cheap with a Grafalloy off Cally Pre-Owned. I was excited to get it then took it to the range and thought it a felt and sounded like a 2x4. A month later I was as happy as I had ever been with a driver. I bought a FT-5 right off even knowing they made it LOUDER for some reason.

    I'm not sure I could dig that sound again. Playing the 909 now with good results does not make me miss the cannon shots of the FT-5 (hit bad or good). But I had some epic blasts with that club and I'm sure you will too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    If you go to 3balls.com they have 5 of the 907 D2 drivers for sale at $89.95 in Very Good condition. Very Good for 3balls means excellent.
    Thanks. I'll look them up but I only ever bought two drivers without hitting them first: my 10.5* 905T and the 9.5* 905R. Both off Ebay with YS6+ shafts. Both now have V2's installed. The local GG has a regular turnover of Titt drivers and the last time I was in last Saturday they had 3 907 D2's all about $95. Two had the Mitsu Platinum shafts which felt like arse to me and the other had a VooDoo which felt like decayed arse. I hate those shafts. I think I'll just wait until one with a V2 comes in. I love how the used prices dip every time a new model comes out. Should be happy hunting when the new 910 drivers hit the stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    Actually, that worries me a bit if it's high launching. But the combo of 8.5 and the shaft might work pretty well. I guess I'll find out tomorrow. If nothing else it's by far the best looking driver I've seen...just a little better than the 905R.
    I bought and used 2 versions of the 907 d2 and they were both duds. One was a 9.5 with a proto shaft and the other a 10.5 with a speeder. Both felt very average and produced inconsistant results. I admit with a decent shaft the head may play better but i believe that model was a flop for titleist.
    My 905r with an aftermarket voodoo is so much better it just stays in the bag and fights off all comers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel
    Thanks. I'll look them up but I only ever bought two drivers without hitting them first: my 10.5* 905T and the 9.5* 905R. Both off Ebay with YS6+ shafts. Both now have V2's installed. The local GG has a regular turnover of Titt drivers and the last time I was in last Saturday they had 3 907 D2's all about $95. Two had the Mitsu Platinum shafts which felt like arse to me and the other had a VooDoo which felt like decayed arse. I hate those shafts. I think I'll just wait until one with a V2 comes in. I love how the used prices dip every time a new model comes out. Should be happy hunting when the new 910 drivers hit the stores.
    It is really hard to beat the V2s for price and playability. I have V2 shafts in all my hybrids (I only play one hybrid though) and 1 in my 4* wood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldplayer
    I bought and used 2 versions of the 907 d2 and they were both duds. One was a 9.5 with a proto shaft and the other a 10.5 with a speeder. Both felt very average and produced inconsistant results. I admit with a decent shaft the head may play better but i believe that model was a flop for titleist.
    My 905r with an aftermarket voodoo is so much better it just stays in the bag and fights off all comers.
    About a year ago I tried one of my friends 907 D2 8.5 with the Mitsubishi Diamana blue board stiff and it felt better than anything I had ever tried. That doesn't mean it will preform well on the course but we will see tomorrow. It's easily the best feeling driver I've tried. Actually the best feeling driver I ever played was my Cleveland Persimmon RC 69 driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    About a year ago I tried one of my friends 907 D2 8.5 with the Mitsubishi Diamana blue board stiff and it felt better than anything I had ever tried. That doesn't mean it will preform well on the course but we will see tomorrow. It's easily the best feeling driver I've tried. Actually the best feeling driver I ever played was my Cleveland Persimmon RC 69 driver.
    I think it may have been the Blueboard which felt so good, not necessarily the D2. As I said yesterday, I took my FT5 with a BB 63 S out yesterday, and it was awesome. It probably wasn't the longest combo I've ever hit, but the consistency and dispersion was better than any other driver combo I've had. OPs bad experiences with the D2 have been echoed by guys i know who got them with the for Titleist VS Proto, which I suspect is not as good as the aftermarket VS Proto. I think you will like your combo, but don't expect it to feel quite as good as BB combo you hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a hacker
    I think it may have been the Blueboard which felt so good, not necessarily the D2. As I said yesterday, I took my FT5 with a BB 63 S out yesterday, and it was awesome. It probably wasn't the longest combo I've ever hit, but the consistency and dispersion was better than any other driver combo I've had. OPs bad experiences with the D2 have been echoed by guys i know who got them with the for Titleist VS Proto, which I suspect is not as good as the aftermarket VS Proto. I think you will like your combo, but don't expect it to feel quite as good as BB combo you hit.

    Since Mitsubishi released the Kali, the successor to the Blueboard, you could probably pick up a blueboard for cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    My ping eye 2s are probably smaller than the MP-67.
    Your Ping Eye 2s are probably smaller than the majority of garden implements, if you average in all of the gasoline-powered implements.

    But Mizunos are fairly large for blades, most of them anyway. My MP14s are not small. Not like my FG17s anyway, or my FG51s. The 51 is no larger than the 17, just a more squared-off design.
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    I played Muirfields for 10 years and realised my handicap was probably twice as high as it should have been. Beautiful irons, (see avatar) but you use them and realise instantly how much of a ****ing genius Nicklaus was. I now have shovels in comparison, Bridgestone J33s

    The 690s are ok, a bit clicky/clangy for me. For a forged blade they aren't the softest irons, but many seem to like the titty clicky thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macgregor
    I played Muirfields for 10 years and realised my handicap was probably twice as high as it should have been. Beautiful irons, (see avatar) but you use them and realise instantly how much of a ****ing genius Nicklaus was. I now have shovels in comparison, Bridgestone J33s

    The 690s are ok, a bit clicky/clangy for me. For a forged blade they aren't the softest irons, but many seem to like the titty clicky thing.
    Not many around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macgregor
    I played Muirfields for 10 years and realised my handicap was probably twice as high as it should have been. Beautiful irons, (see avatar) but you use them and realise instantly how much of a ****ing genius Nicklaus was. I now have shovels in comparison, Bridgestone J33s

    The 690s are ok, a bit clicky/clangy for me. For a forged blade they aren't the softest irons, but many seem to like the titty clicky thing.
    Are you playing the J33 Cavity backs or blades?

    I've hit them both and would happily bag either. Very nice sticks.
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    Not surprised by that, I've never liked Titleist forgings

    Nicklaus won the 86 Masters with Muirfields, for anyone else that would be a severe handicap

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    The J33 cavities

    small topline, minimum offset and yet still quite small, yet the cavity gives a smidgeon more height. They arent any more forgiving than blades, hit from the middle they are no different from straight mbs or blades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerBS
    They are not. I am comparing the 9 irons right now and I can set the 67 inside the PING Eye 2 and still see a tad bit of the PINGs still outlining the outside of the 67s. There is not a huge difference, but there is a difference.

    There is a HUGE difference though whenever you start discussing the toe of the club where the PING Eye 2 goes up like a pointy boot.
    That's because you got the Ping Eye 2+. You never did it right in the first place. If you had listened to me and got the Ping Eye 2 square groove with ZZ lite shaft and ping grips you'd be playing them right now and might have a chance to beat Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macgregor
    I played Muirfields for 10 years and realised my handicap was probably twice as high as it should have been. Beautiful irons, (see avatar) but you use them and realise instantly how much of a ****ing genius Nicklaus was. I now have shovels in comparison, Bridgestone J33s

    The 690s are ok, a bit clicky/clangy for me. For a forged blade they aren't the softest irons, but many seem to like the titty clicky thing.
    I played those exact irons you have in your avatar photo. I think I played them for about 3 years and then got the Ping Eye 2. You are correct that Nicklaus won the 1986 Masters with those clubs. Imagine hitting a 3 iron with those clubs onto the Par 5 like he did.

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    I sold them and kept the 3 iron. I now use it to pick my nose with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macgregor
    I sold them and kept the 3 iron. I now use it to pick my nose with.
    Well, if it's any consolation that would probably be difficult to do with an oversize cavity. I'm sure some on this board would argue that GFF is better for nose picking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveperkins
    Good choice for the test. That head is actually a tad larger than some blades (bigger than FG17 by far) and very forgiving... but still sweet in the center.

    Incidentally, I do like that driver, more than I thought I would.. I'll take you up on your offer to keep it.. :-)

    I have a 690MB 2 iron on a PX6.0 that is one of my favorite long irons to hit.. almost can't miss with it. A very good clubhead.
    Big Dave... I thought that you said Adam Idea Pro Gold is the best. You lie to us again ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mward2002
    If you dislike them, let me know.

    I'm hoping you do, for selfish purposes.
    For sale: A set of Titleist 690.MB Irons, 3-PW, Dynamic Golf S300 Shafts, Original Titleist grips, standard length and lie. 8 out of 10 condition. $150 including shipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    For sale: A set of Titleist 690.MB Irons, 3-PW, Dynamic Golf S300 Shafts, Original Titleist grips, standard length and lie. 8 out of 10 condition. $150 including shipping.
    Already? Oy that was quick. Let me find out the value of my sticks (most likely gonna be tomorrow) so I'm not in the hole as badly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pky6471
    Big Dave... I thought that you said Adam Idea Pro Gold is the best. You lie to us again ???
    The easy and fun answer would be yes... but--

    I never said Pro Gold.. I've never HIT the pro gold... I have said the Idea Pro Forged is the best I've played, and it is. It's the model that came before the Gold model.

    And reading my post about my 2 iron, I did not say it was the best. I said it was very good and I liked it.

    So nothing you accused me of is true... in fact, that beginning part where you said "I thought" doesn't seem to be true either. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    For sale: A set of Titleist 690.MB Irons, 3-PW, Dynamic Golf S300 Shafts, Original Titleist grips, standard length and lie. 8 out of 10 condition. $150 including shipping.
    You should have tried GFF and the outcome would have been completely different. Try MP-33's next time.
    I chose the road less traveled.

    Now where the f#ck am I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    For sale: A set of Titleist 690.MB Irons, 3-PW, Dynamic Golf S300 Shafts, Original Titleist grips, standard length and lie. 8 out of 10 condition. $150 including shipping.
    What happened? I'm guessing you were hooking and pulling these a bit. If you play an iron with standard length, I'll bet you should be flattening the lie angle a few degrees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Purist
    What happened? I'm guessing you were hooking and pulling these a bit. If you play an iron with standard length, I'll bet you should be flattening the lie angle a few degrees.
    Actually, on the first hole I hit the Titleist PW to about 12 feet. Second hole I hit a 7 iron to about 15 feet. On the 17th, I hit an 8 iron to 4 feet. I shot 35 on the front (1 under) and a 40 on the back. The irons really didn't have a whole lot to do with the score. However, on a few holes I hit them off center and the result was horrible. Also, I just plain don't like how they feel even when struck well. I prefer the feel of the Pings by far. I may just get a set of Ping i15 irons. Stronger loft than the Eye 2s and a little sleeker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    Actually, on the first hole I hit the Titleist PW to about 12 feet. Second hole I hit a 7 iron to about 15 feet. On the 17th, I hit an 8 iron to 4 feet. I shot 35 on the front (1 under) and a 40 on the back. The irons really didn't have a whole lot to do with the score. However, on a few holes I hit them off center and the result was horrible. Also, I just plain don't like how they feel even when struck well. I prefer the feel of the Pings by far. I may just get a set of Ping i15 irons. Stronger loft than the Eye 2s and a little sleeker.
    I concede that Titleast aren't the best feeling irons. Mizuno MB's blow them away. I still say you probably shouldn't be playing standard lies...buy some sole impact tape and get back to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Purist
    I concede that Titleast aren't the best feeling irons. Mizuno MB's blow them away. I still say you probably shouldn't be playing standard lies...buy some sole impact tape and get back to me.
    How in the world would you know what lie I should be playing? Just curious. I play the Ping Eye 2 standard length blue dots which are .75 degree upright. Impact tape on the sole of the iron is right in the middle for me with the blue dots. If I play black dots the sole impact on the tape is further out toward the toe and off center. I've always come into the ball a little upright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    How in the world would you know what lie I should be playing? Just curious. I play the Ping Eye 2 standard length blue dots which are .75 degree upright. Impact tape on the sole of the iron is right in the middle for me with the blue dots. If I play black dots the sole impact on the tape is further out toward the toe and off center. I've always come into the ball a little upright.
    To be perfectly honest and serious I also tried Titleist prior to Mizuno's and also found them hard, harsh and difficult to hit.
    I chose the road less traveled.

    Now where the f#ck am I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    How in the world would you know what lie I should be playing? Just curious. I play the Ping Eye 2 standard length blue dots which are .75 degree upright. Impact tape on the sole of the iron is right in the middle for me with the blue dots. If I play black dots the sole impact on the tape is further out toward the toe and off center. I've always come into the ball a little upright.
    From the video. Dave's standard length irons looked to be sitting at a very upright angle when you addressed the ball. Maybe you have developed an upright swing to compensate for irons with an improper lie angle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Purist
    From the video. Dave's standard length irons looked to be sitting at a very upright angle when you addressed the ball. Maybe you have developed an upright swing to compensate for irons with an improper lie angle.
    I grew up playing Ping Eye 2 black dots. I only switched to blue dot recently when I put tape on the bottom and looked at the mark on the sole. So are you saying that the photos with Dave's irons show the toe off the ground?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Purist
    From the video. Dave's standard length irons looked to be sitting at a very upright angle when you addressed the ball. Maybe you have developed an upright swing to compensate for irons with an improper lie angle.
    I was in this boat a year or so ago. I went shopping for a set of wedges and the fitter said the same thing you just did. He convinced me to order the wedge at 2* flat and I was currently fitted for 2 up. He said if I didn't like them he would bend them back up 4* for free. The Impact tape showed the 2* up was correct but in fact I had compensated for the poor fitting clubs. Once I got the clubs bent to a lie angle that fit my general measurements (5'10 with long arms and legs compared to my body length) and practiced for about 2 weeks the impact tape showed the 2* flat was correct. He was right with the fact that a reasonably athletic person will find a way to get into the correct position at impact. Before the adjustment I had a hard time extending through the shot without hitting fat. Which makes since since a 2* up lie angle makes the club effectively longer.

    Long/short - dynamic fitting in itself isn't always correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    I grew up playing Ping Eye 2 black dots. I only switched to blue dot recently when I put tape on the bottom and looked at the mark on the sole. So are you saying that the photos with Dave's irons show the toe off the ground?
    Check your PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
    To be perfectly honest and serious I also tried Titleist prior to Mizuno's and also found them hard, harsh and difficult to hit.
    That's because you weren't good enough to hit them. For me, it was my keen sense of feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis
    I grew up playing Ping Eye 2 black dots. I only switched to blue dot recently when I put tape on the bottom and looked at the mark on the sole. So are you saying that the photos with Dave's irons show the toe off the ground?
    So you're saying that even with all that precise feedback the Ping Eye2s have, you couldn't tell the toe was off the ground at impact? Which is it FD, do the POS Ping paddles have zero feedback, or are you an even bigger chopper than we all thought?
    The views expressed by Not a Hacker are not meant to be understood by you primitive screw heads. Don't take it personally, just sit back and enjoy the writings of your better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a hacker
    So you're saying that even with all that precise feedback the Ping Eye2s have, you couldn't tell the toe was off the ground at impact? Which is it FD, do the POS Ping paddles have zero feedback, or are you an even bigger chopper than we all thought?
    LOL...POS Ping paddles. NAH, even when you're harsh you can make me laugh.

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