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If We Choked down 3" or 6"...what would be the % distance loss?
I am sure there is no such thing as a rule of thumb, but what is the ballpark based on your experiences. I should find that out at the range. Thanks guys/girls/AC-DC
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Unless your clubs are very head-heavy, choking down more than an inch or so for a full swing will likely result in a weak low shot to the right or maybe a shank. Choking down six inches for a full swing will result in the butt end hitting you in the balls.
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Originally Posted by Pky6471
I am sure there is no such thing as a rule of thumb, but what is the ballpark based on your experiences. I should find that out at the range. Thanks guys/girls/AC-DC
It kind of depends. I think someone with a 100mph ss will lose about 2mph per inch.
Some people will actually gain swing speed though. If a golfer's club is too long for them, it may cause balance issues that result in club head deceleration...basically the golfer leaks power trying to "steer" the club back into the ball. Choking down can lead to a more free and balanced swing. Anthony Kim choked down on all his clubs and didn't seem to have any distance issues.
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Come on Pky, you're a physicist you should 't have to ask. If you don't remember the formulas, have one of your lab rats crunch it for you.
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Originally Posted by The Purist
Anthony Kim choked down on all his clubs and didn't seem to have any distance issues.
In the interest of truth, this is a flawed argument at best, a moronic juveline attempt to make an invalid point at worst.
Anthony Kim does indeed choke down, but he may hit the ball even longer if he did not. Now I know you are on this big Asian kick with the sleeves and want to prop up one of your own, but this is not the place to do it.
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Originally Posted by mongrel
Unless your clubs are very head-heavy, choking down more than an inch or so for a full swing will likely result in a weak low shot to the right or maybe a shank. Choking down six inches for a full swing will result in the butt end hitting you in the balls.
Same impressions here. You might be able to pull off a shot on line with your long irons or woods but not with your mid and short irons. The lie angle would BD too flat and everything would look like a push.
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Originally Posted by Not a German
Come on Pky, you're a physicist you should 't have to ask. If you don't remember the formulas, have one of your lab rats crunch it for you.
I am impressed with your intelligence
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Originally Posted by Horseballs
In the interest of truth, this is a flawed argument at best, a moronic juveline attempt to make an invalid point at worst.
Anthony Kim does indeed choke down, but he may hit the ball even longer if he did not. Now I know you are on this big Asian kick with the sleeves and want to prop up one of your own, but this is not the place to do it.
I've read somewhere that it's how AK got started, so he's more comfortable with choke down... Well, we are all comfortable about our setup so we stay with it, right?
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Originally Posted by poe4soul
Same impressions here. You might be able to pull off a shot on line with your long irons or woods but not with your mid and short irons. The lie angle would BD too flat and everything would look like a push.
Its the swingweight too. Every inch less in length means about 4 SW points less. So if you grip down 3 inches on a D2 iron, that means you're hitting a C-Zero. Consider that Nickalus's irons were in the C-8 range and he played them all off his left instep. You would have to play that 3" chokedown iron off your left toe or forward of that to have a chance.
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Originally Posted by Pky6471
I've read somewhere that it's how AK got started, so he's more comfortable with choke down... Well, we are all comfortable about our setup so we stay with it, right?
Many of us are never really comfortable with our setups and some of us continually f*ck with them. I'm one of those. When you get to the point where you feel like you need to choke down on every full shot in order to hit it more solidly, you may want to consider having your clubs shortened or counter-balanced. I've messed with counter-balancing drivers and may start back up with irons and fairway woods.
Mostly Taylormade clubs now except for two Ping I25 hybrids, Mizuno 54 & Callaway 56 wedges.
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Originally Posted by mongrel
Many of us are never really comfortable with our setups and some of us continually f*ck with them. I'm one of those. When you get to the point where you feel like you need to choke down on every full shot in order to hit it more solidly, you may want to consider having your clubs shortened or counter-balanced. I've messed with counter-balancing drivers and may start back up with irons and fairway woods.
In general, there are 2 scenarios that I choke down (1) my 60* wedge for shorter distance (2) ball is way above my feet.... I always have problem getting correct distance in the latter case... Other than that I don't need to choke down my clubs
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Originally Posted by Pky6471
I am sure there is no such thing as a rule of thumb, but what is the ballpark based on your experiences. I should find that out at the range. Thanks guys/girls/AC-DC
When I'm spraying shots, which usually occurs during the first few holes without warming up, I almost always choke down a bit to find fairways, or my target.
The funny part is I usually see no distance loss, so I may be playing clubs a little long for me.
Also doesn't something happen with all of us, in that your swing becomes shorter, and you probably keep your left arm, for right handed golfers, a little straighter.
It's a beautiful feeling when you can grip it at the end, and rip it.
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Originally Posted by Pky6471
I've read somewhere that it's how AK got started, so he's more comfortable with choke down... Well, we are all comfortable about our setup so we stay with it, right?
this doesn't surprise me. He's short and probably played with clubs that didn't fit him for so long he grooved a swing where he gripped way down on the club. Changing that now would take some considerable effort. He's obviously an exception. You also don't know if he hasn't jacked his swing weights up to account for this effective club length. He's a one off in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by poe4soul
this doesn't surprise me. He's short and probably played with clubs that didn't fit him for so long he grooved a swing where he gripped way down on the club. Changing that now would take some considerable effort. He's obviously an exception. You also don't know if he hasn't jacked his swing weights up to account for this effective club length. He's a one off in my opinion.
The winning answer. He learned on hand me downs that were too long and being a feel player hasn't wanted to change things.
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The only time I choke down on a club is if the ball is above my feet or I need to hit a low line drive underneath a tree.
This year I started choking up on all of my wedges from 80 yards or less from the green. It's made a big difference and has cut down on skulls and fattys.
Speaking of fattys, I believe my home course has the largest assistant greenskeeper that I've ever seen. My golfing buddy has named him "Tiny". This guy must weight 600 pounds and I'm not exaggerating. He rides one of those big mowers and I honestly don't know how he gets up on it. I will take a photo the next time I see him. Lord knows he won't be able to catch me if he doesn't like being photographed. I could probably outrun him by simply walking at a brisk pace.
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Originally Posted by famousdavis
The only time I choke down on a club is if the ball is above my feet or I need to hit a low line drive underneath a tree.
This year I started choking up on all of my wedges from 80 yards or less from the green. It's made a big difference and has cut down on skulls and fattys.
Speaking of fattys, I believe my home course has the largest assistant greenskeeper that I've ever seen. My golfing buddy has named him "Tiny". This guy must weight 600 pounds and I'm not exaggerating. He rides one of those big mowers and I honestly don't know how he gets up on it. I will take a photo the next time I see him. Lord knows he won't be able to catch me if he doesn't like being photographed. I could probably outrun him by simply walking at a brisk pace.
If you watch the greens being cut and the greens mower also has rollers under it, having Tiny cut the greens may contribute a couple of points to the Stimpmeter speed. Learn Tiny's schedule on the greens mower and you will gain a competitive advantage.
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Originally Posted by famousdavis
The only time I choke down on a club is if the ball is above my feet or I need to hit a low line drive underneath a tree.
This year I started choking up on all of my wedges from 80 yards or less from the green. It's made a big difference and has cut down on skulls and fattys.
Speaking of fattys, I believe my home course has the largest assistant greenskeeper that I've ever seen. My golfing buddy has named him "Tiny". This guy must weight 600 pounds and I'm not exaggerating. He rides one of those big mowers and I honestly don't know how he gets up on it. I will take a photo the next time I see him. Lord knows he won't be able to catch me if he doesn't like being photographed. I could probably outrun him by simply walking at a brisk pace.
Yeah but can you outrun Tiny's mower?
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
Yeah but can you outrun Tiny's mower?
I certainly hope so. I don't think Tiny has too much of a social life. Whenever I've seen him up there on the motorized Toro he doesn't look like a person who's got much to look forward to, other than the next supersized meal at Mickey D's. I'm fairly certain he'd have no problem running me over and continuing on like nothing ever happened.
Tiny don't play
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
Yeah but can you outrun Tiny's mower?
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