What's in the bag of the top PGA pros OTHER than Tiger

[dorkman53]

Interesting club choices by some of the top 'Non-Tiger" PGA pros.

http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...4&select2=9820
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...9&select2=9633
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...6&select2=9611
http://www.padraigharrington.com/new...&iCategoryID=0
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...2&select2=9623
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...0&select2=9616
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...1&select2=9629
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...4&select2=9613

The sources are The Golf Channel's info, except for Padraig Harrington, where I obtained the info from a different source. These "WITB's" are all from 2007.
I couldn't find info on Els, Justin Rose, or Luke Donald, but I think you will see a trend here.

I don't see many 2 irons in here. I do see some hybrids.
Hmmmmmm......maybe these guys are on to something..........

Perhaps if one is NOT Tiger (which would include several billion on this planet), one should not look to Tiger's club choices as appropriate for everyone or even anyone else.

[neverman]

They're becoming Women?

[dorkman53]

They're becoming Women?

It's remotely possible it has something to do with their wanting to win.......
Lowering of one's score can lead in that direction.....

[Lil'Mike]

But if someone accepted those clubs as good options, than what other really tired and non-funny joke could they tell 24/7 ?

[Not a hacker]

Maybe this shows WHY Tiger is not being seriously challenged by anyone else. Because most pros are obviously inferior ball strikers who need the psychological crutch hybrids provide.

[dorkman53]

Maybe this shows WHY Tiger is not being seriously challenged by anyone else. Because most pros are obviously inferior ball strikers who need the psychological crutch hybrids provide.

Yeah.....that's it.....

[Omen2]

be careful what questions you ask dorkman. you may not like the answer.

NAH and Neverman... you guys rock

Omen

[collegegolfer]

I thought Mickelson had two drivers?

You know what I love about hybrids...nothing!

Sorry, had to add that... :-)

[Not a hacker]

The only good thing about hybrids is they immediately identify the choppers who can't play, so you can start adding up your winnings on the first tee if you see one in the bag.

[dorkman53]

The only good thing about hybrids is they immediately identify the choppers who can't play, so you can start adding up your winnings on the first tee if you see one in the bag.

Let us know how much money you win playing against these poor ball striking slouches:
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...4&select2=9820
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...9&select2=9633
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...6&select2=9611
http://www.padraigharrington.com/new...&iCategoryID=0
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...2&select2=9623
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...0&select2=9616
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...1&select2=9629
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...4&select2=9613

[LyleG]

With tour greens getting more and more rock like come Sunday, you will see the trend towards hybrids continue. From 230 out, with a green thats harder than your driveway, a hybrid is a far better club choice than a 2 or 3 iron. More height, more spin, equals a little more chance of stopping the ball near the hole.

[dorkman53]

With tour greens getting more and more rock like come Sunday, you will see the trend towards hybrids continue. From 230 out, with a green thats harder than your driveway, a hybrid is a far better club choice than a 2 or 3 iron. More height, more spin, equals a little more chance of stopping the ball near the hole.

Nahhh.......it's because they are poor ball strikers and need a crutch.......unlike some of the experts on this board.......

[LyleG]

Yes, sorry, I forgot about that.

[bjdrivers]

Or it could be the fact that they are endorsed & paid under contract to play these clubs by the manufacturer. They don't use hybrids because they can't hit a long iron. The manufacturer knows that what the pros play will sell to the general public.

Nike has plenty of pros to play their chopper clubs & hybrids (well one less now that rory left), so Tiger doesn't need to. Tiger wouldn't anyway, he could never take himself down to that level.

I watched a showing of "shell's wonderful world of golf" match the other day that was classic. Freddy couples hit a high, fading 2 iron (Lynx) over some trees from 230 out to set himself up for an eagle putt which he made against Ernie els. that's when golf was played by men.

[Horseballs]

Or it could be the fact that they are endorsed & paid under contract to play these clubs by the manufacturer. They don't use hybrids because they can't hit a long iron. The manufacturer knows that what the pros play will sell to the general public.

Nike has plenty of pros to play their chopper clubs & hybrids (well one less now that rory left), so Tiger doesn't need to. Tiger wouldn't anyway, he could never take himself down to that level.

I watched a showing of "shell's wonderful world of golf" match the other day that was classic. Freddy couples hit a high, fading 2 iron (Lynx) over some trees from 230 out to set himself up for an eagle putt which he made against Ernie els. that's when golf was played by men.

BJ's back from the dead!
Interesting theory about the marketing angle. Club companies do stand to make more money if they get us to purchase a club to replace a club we've already paid for. I don't buy it though. The pros are still going to play whatever they think gives them the best opportunity to win.
Was that the Couples/Els match where they played in British Columbia? That course looks fricken sweet.

[bjdrivers]

BJ's back from the dead!
Interesting theory about the marketing angle. Club companies do stand to make more money if they get us to purchase a club to replace a club we've already paid for. I don't buy it though. The pros are still going to play whatever they think gives them the best opportunity to win.
Was that the Couples/Els match where they played in British Columbia? That course looks fricken sweet.

Yes they will play what gives them the best chance to win, within their contract. If these guys could play whatever and still get paid for it, Tiger would still have his 975D steel-shafted driver, he blistered that b!tch down the middle all day, and mizuno blades in his bag. Why isn't tiger using one of those POS nike flat sticks? because he knows the Scotty (Undisputed Lord of all putters) is what puts the trophies on his shelf. he made sure the Nike contract didn't include his putter.

I have no idea what course it was, but it sure wasn't in Arkansas or I would have played it. It probably was in freakin Canada.

[Horseballs]

Yes they will play what gives them the best chance to win, within their contract. If these guys could play whatever and still get paid for it, Tiger would still have his 975D steel-shafted driver, he blistered that b!tch down the middle all day, and mizuno blades in his bag. Why isn't tiger using one of those POS nike flat sticks? because he knows the Scotty (Undisputed Lord of all putters) is what puts the trophies on his shelf. he made sure the Nike contract didn't include his putter.

I have no idea what course it was, but it sure wasn't in Arkansas or I would have played it. It probably was in freakin Canada.

I doubt Tiger currently has any clubs he'd trade. Maybe 5 years ago but not today.
Tiger doesn't go Unitized because the tour has forbidden him. He'd win everytime he tees it up.

[bjdrivers]

I doubt Tiger currently has any clubs he'd trade. Maybe 5 years ago but not today.
Tiger doesn't go Unitized because the tour has forbidden him. He'd win everytime he tees it up.

u·nit·ize (yn-tz)
tr.v. u·nit·ized, u·nit·iz·ing, u·nit·iz·es
1. To separate, classify, or package in discrete units.
2. To make or transform into a single unit.

Tiger doesn't go unitized, because unitized is GAY.

[Horseballs]

u·nit·ize (yn-tz)
tr.v. u·nit·ized, u·nit·iz·ing, u·nit·iz·es
1. To separate, classify, or package in discrete units.
2. To make or transform into a single unit.

Tiger doesn't go unitized, because unitized is GAY.

That argument is weaker than Rush Limbaugh's cock at a whore house.

[bjdrivers]

That argument is weaker than Rush Limbaugh's cock at a whore house.

HEY! don't go off on me just because your buckeyes got sh!t on by an SEC team (who my razorbacks beat in Baton Rouge,) not my fault!!

[Omen2]

hey dorkman.. i'd put tiger and jacks two iron against any of those choppers you listed any day of the week for any amount of money you want...

whaddya say? hell i'll give you 5 to 1.

didnt think so...

there is no doubt that if tiger was offered the same amount of money by mizuno that he was from nike which he would have gone with. That says a lot about the company. Nike got tiger with dollars not quality.

if tiger wasnt getting paid to play any brand his bag would have some titleist driver and titty woods, mizuno blades ( not some gay arse tadmoore cavity back queer sticks), and titty wedges, with a SC putter...

now that's what's up.

Omen

[bjdrivers]

Omen you still have the 905T? where's the Burner TP that you were jizzing all over? The Burner is ok, but so help me if you ever put MWT in your bag you won't be hearing from me anymore....

[Omen2]

i have violently claimed that MWT was the gayest, queeriest, lameist, lyleish, and chopper thing on the market...

MWT WILL NEVER BE IN MY HAND MUCH LESS MY BAG...

the burner may not make it into the bag.. i just cant get my eyes to settle onto 460 cc jobbers... i am afraid that if i go to a jumbo clubhead that the added " FORGIVENESS" dependancy could bleed into my other clubs and result in a deterioration of my ballstriking.

In fact i am actually thinking that the 905t may be there for a while... and if i do change i will have to go with a d2 or the 905r... KEEPING the big dog a Titleist.

Omen

[Horseballs]

I'm not a Buckeyes fan. I happen to live in Buckeye hell, though.
If there was absolutely no equipment contracts, Tiger would do the same thing with whichever manufacturer he chose. Build a set from the ground up. It doesn't matter if the brand said Cleveland or Callaway or Mizuno.

[bjdrivers]

I'm not a Buckeyes fan. I happen to live in Buckeye hell, though.
If there was absolutely no equipment contracts, Tiger would do the same thing with whichever manufacturer he chose. Build a set from the ground up. It doesn't matter if the brand said Cleveland or Callaway or Mizuno.

You're probably right. He would call up Lyle and get a custom built set of TadMoore shovels to help him improve his accuracy, as well as teach him how to hit a draw when the ball is above his feet.

[bjdrivers]

Here are my forgiving, game improvement, hybrid shovels.

All shaft labels removed and grips turned down for asthetics. Paintfill removed from iron #s. GP tour velvet throughout. No mallet putters or tadmoore backhoes here baby.

[dorkman53]

hey dorkman.. i'd put tiger and jacks two iron against any of those choppers you listed any day of the week for any amount of money you want...

whaddya say? hell i'll give you 5 to 1.

didnt think so...

there is no doubt that if tiger was offered the same amount of money by mizuno that he was from nike which he would have gone with. That says a lot about the company. Nike got tiger with dollars not quality.

if tiger wasnt getting paid to play any brand his bag would have some titleist driver and titty woods, mizuno blades ( not some gay arse tadmoore cavity back queer sticks), and titty wedges, with a SC putter...

now that's what's up.

Omen

The density of your brain is truly astounding.

When you become the best player in the world, or even make the PGA Tour, I will listen to your advice eagerly. However, like most mature, secure individuals, I will continue to play the clubs that work best for me, despite the moronic and monotonous blabbing that emerges from your "mind." You and a few other insecure people have apparently made it your life's mission to flame and rant on a very limited topic range. Your creativity and intelligence is obviously sorely lacking.

[LyleG]

You're probably right. He would call up Lyle and get a custom built set of TadMoore shovels to help him improve his accuracy, as well as teach him how to hit a draw when the ball is above his feet.

Actually my Tad Moores have less offset, and are smaller in both overall size and cavity size than your 690.cb. In fact the set I had before were 690.cb until I upgraded to these. I would also kill for a good repeatable fade as my miss a big draw or dreaded hook.

[bjdrivers]

Actually my Tad Moores have less offset, and are smaller in both overall size and cavity size than your 690.cb. In fact the set I had before were 690.cb until I upgraded to these. I would also kill for a good repeatable fade as my miss a big draw or dreaded hook.

I don't have the 690.cbs, I have the 690cbs.

FS91 Forged Cavity Back Irons
Club Loft Lie Offset Bounce Length
3 Iron 21° 60° .135" 2° 39"
4 Iron 24° 61° .130" 2.5° 38.5"
5 Iron 27° 62° .125" 3° 38"
6 Iron 31° 62.5° .120" 3.5° 37.5"
7 Iron 35° 63° .110" 4° 37"
8 Iron 39° 63.5° .095" 5° 36.5"
9 Iron 43° 64° .085" 6° 36"
Pitching Wedge 47° 64° .075" 7° 35.5"


Club Specifications: 690CB Forged Cavity Back Irons
Irons 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 PW W
Offset 0.160" 0.150" 0.140" 0.130" 0.120" 0.110" 0.100" 0.090" 0.080" 0.080"



Looks like your long irons have 5/100th's of an inch less offset, the rest are the same. This explains why you use a hybrid. Thanks for clearing that up.

btw, when are you gonna upgrade to that make everything mallet? It would be much more forgiving than that scotty.

[LyleG]

notice the loft of my hybrid, its not an iron replacement, its a 4 wood replacement.

[bjdrivers]

notice the loft of my hybrid, its not an iron replacement, its a 4 wood replacement.

Here is the message that has just been posted:
***************
notice the loft of my hybrid, its probably less than your 3 wood.


Good idea to edit that so quickly.

[Omen2]

The density of your brain is truly astounding.

When you become the best player in the world, or even make the PGA Tour, I will listen to your advice eagerly. However, like most mature, secure individuals, I will continue to play the clubs that work best for me, despite the moronic and monotonous blabbing that emerges from your "mind." You and a few other insecure people have apparently made it your life's mission to flame and rant on a very limited topic range. Your creativity and intelligence is obviously sorely lacking.

pretty sure the density of my brain is the same as the density of most human brains. now had you said the depth of knowledge in my brain that would have made more sense..

for highly educated you sure sound real dumb like sometime.

and again the montonous blabbing would be emerging from my mouth or fingertips as the mind is not a medium for communication.

i know that you are never going to be half the man i am so i wont waste too much time on you.

it's your fault that your swing is so pititful that you need forgivness... dont hate me because i'm better than you... hate me because i'm going to always tell you that i'm better than you..

Omen

[LyleG]

Here is the message that has just been posted:
***************
notice the loft of my hybrid, its probably less than your 3 wood.


Good idea to edit that so quickly.

I noticed your 3 wood loft, so I changed it. Sorry, no agenda here. My club selection is about purpose, not pose.

[LyleG]

dont hate me because i'm better than you... hate me because i'm going to always tell you that i'm better than you..

Omen

If you have to tell people how good you are its probably because you arent. 93 forever hack.

[Omen2]

If you have to tell people how good you are its probably because you arent. 93 forever hack.

tiger shot an 88 in a practice round... yep he's a real hack forever...
you see when guys with real golf clubs are haveing a bad day their clubs are not going to help you with that...

i did shoot a 93, are you going to tell me you've never had a bad round?

this could go on forever..

I'm better than you too... just see if you can find a hybrid in my bag...

if you ever come down to charleston let me know... i think you probably cant break 85.

what am i talking about... lynx iron making isnt going to afford the green fees let alone the plane ticket...

but if you or dorkman ever find your way to this part of S.C. we will see who's got the better game...

I'll put my mizzy's against your b.itch stick anyday.

Omen... let's see how you limp away from this one.

[LyleG]

Limp away? Your the sad sack who shot 93 on a dog track and has delusions of being great.

I play my game, and do ok with that. I have won a club championship, a club match play championship and qualified for 3 separate provincial amateurs. So I am pretty happy with my game.

[bjdrivers]

Actually my Tad Moores have less offset, and are smaller in both overall size and cavity size than your 690.cb. In fact the set I had before were 690.cb until I upgraded to these. I would also kill for a good repeatable fade as my miss a big draw or dreaded hook.

Put those project x's on the table at your next garage sale and put in some stiff true tempers.

[Omen2]

so you are going to come down here and show me what you got...

let's see if my keyboard works as well..

i won a state am, qualified for the us open but couldnt attend due to scheduling conflicts, played in the dubai desert classic, missed the cut but played.

hey mine works too... sweet..

Omen

[dorkman53]

pretty sure the density of my brain is the same as the density of most human brains. now had you said the depth of knowledge in my brain that would have made more sense..

for highly educated you sure sound real dumb like sometime.

and again the montonous blabbing would be emerging from my mouth or fingertips as the mind is not a medium for communication.

i know that you are never going to be half the man i am so i wont waste too much time on you.

it's your fault that your swing is so pititful that you need forgivness... dont hate me because i'm better than you... hate me because i'm going to always tell you that i'm better than you..

Omen

You are also too dense to understand metaphorical language........

Your pedantic literalism suggests an incompletely myelinated cerebral cortex.....

[daveperk]

This is fun. It's like Mixed Keyboard Arts inside a virtual hexagon. I expect Windows Vista to splatter my monitor with realistic blood spots any second now... :-)

Who's next to sack up?

I'm just a beer drinking spectator here but it's worth the entrance fee. :-)

[Omen2]

You are also too dense to understand metaphorical language........

Your pedantic literalism suggests an incompletely myelinated cerebral cortex.....

it sure took you a while to google all those words. dont you wish they had a feature that would spit out that sentence from the laymans terms?

you're still a retard, and no that's not metaphorical language.


and then the second part there...

you are saying that my strict adherence to coherent speech means that part of my brain is sheathed in myelin?

is this methaporical? it makes no sense? why dont you read the definitions of the words you google?

let me see if i can translate exactly for the others so they dont have to try to comprehend your diatribe.

Pedantic: 1. ostentatious in one's learning.
2. overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, esp. in teaching.

Literalism: 1. adherence to the exact letter or the literal sense, as in translation or interpretation: to interpret the law with uncompromising literalism.
2. a peculiarity of expression resulting from this: The work is studded with these obtuse literalisms.
3. exact representation or portrayal, without idealization, as in art or literature: a literalism more appropriate to journalism than to the novel.

Myelinated: (of a nerve) having a myelin sheath; medullated.

Cereberal Cortex: the furrowed outer layer of gray matter in the cerebrum of the brain, associated with the higher brain functions, as voluntary movement, coordination of sensory information, learning and memory, and the expression of individuality.

... so the part of my brain that deals with learning and memory is coated in a nerve sheath. and he knows this because i read what he said and found it to make no sense which makes me overly concerned with minute details; like coherent sentences

does that about sum it up...

i'll await your auspicious retort full of prosaic castigation of me which inturn will predispose my aspersion of your constitution claiming that estrogen is the only hormone present in your subsistence.

oops. I forgot to say that you were covered in a myelin sheath... but i will say that you are a sheath of sorts.

Omen

[Kiwi Player]

However, I will continue to play the clubs that work best for me, despite the moronic and monotonous blabbing that emerges from your "mind." You and a few other insecure people have apparently made it your life's mission to flame and rant on a very limited topic range. Your creativity and intelligence is obviously sorely lacking.

Moronic and monotonous it may be but you have to admit you were asking for it by starting this thread!

Surely a bit of reverse flaming going on...?

[dorkman53]

Moronic and monotonous it may be but you have to admit you were asking for it by starting this thread!

Surely a bit of reverse flaming going on...?

Yeah, I thought of that angle when I started the thread, but I was just trying to balance the nonstop oral defecation about club selection made by certain people on the board who lack the sophistication to realize that there is more than one valid viewpoint on certain subjects.

[dorkman53]

it sure took you a while to google all those words. dont you wish they had a feature that would spit out that sentence from the laymans terms?

you're still a retard, and no that's not metaphorical language.


and then the second part there...

you are saying that my strict adherence to coherent speech means that part of my brain is sheathed in myelin?

is this methaporical? it makes no sense? why dont you read the definitions of the words you google?

let me see if i can translate exactly for the others so they dont have to try to comprehend your diatribe.

Pedantic: 1. ostentatious in one's learning.
2. overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, esp. in teaching.

Literalism: 1. adherence to the exact letter or the literal sense, as in translation or interpretation: to interpret the law with uncompromising literalism.
2. a peculiarity of expression resulting from this: The work is studded with these obtuse literalisms.
3. exact representation or portrayal, without idealization, as in art or literature: a literalism more appropriate to journalism than to the novel.

Myelinated: (of a nerve) having a myelin sheath; medullated.

Cereberal Cortex: the furrowed outer layer of gray matter in the cerebrum of the brain, associated with the higher brain functions, as voluntary movement, coordination of sensory information, learning and memory, and the expression of individuality.

... so the part of my brain that deals with learning and memory is coated in a nerve sheath. and he knows this because i read what he said and found it to make no sense which makes me overly concerned with minute details; like coherent sentences

does that about sum it up...

i'll await your auspicious retort full of prosaic castigation of me which inturn will predispose my aspersion of your constitution claiming that estrogen is the only hormone present in your subsistence.

oops. I forgot to say that you were covered in a myelin sheath... but i will say that you are a sheath of sorts.

Omen

I guess you think that some people might have to look up those words, and that my post may have taken as long as yours. Sorry to disappoint you......I shot that off in a minute or two before I left from work. I suspect yours took a considerable length of time......

But then, the concept that someone else might have a different vocabulary than yours, a different set of experiences than yours, or a different skill set than you possess is probably more than your simplistic "black and white," concrete mind can comprehend.

[dorkman53]

it sure took you a while to google all those words. dont you wish they had a feature that would spit out that sentence from the laymans terms?

you're still a retard, and no that's not metaphorical language.


and then the second part there...

you are saying that my strict adherence to coherent speech means that part of my brain is sheathed in myelin?

is this methaporical? it makes no sense? why dont you read the definitions of the words you google?

let me see if i can translate exactly for the others so they dont have to try to comprehend your diatribe.

Pedantic: 1. ostentatious in one's learning.
2. overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, esp. in teaching.

Literalism: 1. adherence to the exact letter or the literal sense, as in translation or interpretation: to interpret the law with uncompromising literalism.
2. a peculiarity of expression resulting from this: The work is studded with these obtuse literalisms.
3. exact representation or portrayal, without idealization, as in art or literature: a literalism more appropriate to journalism than to the novel.

Myelinated: (of a nerve) having a myelin sheath; medullated.

Cereberal Cortex: the furrowed outer layer of gray matter in the cerebrum of the brain, associated with the higher brain functions, as voluntary movement, coordination of sensory information, learning and memory, and the expression of individuality.

... so the part of my brain that deals with learning and memory is coated in a nerve sheath. and he knows this because i read what he said and found it to make no sense which makes me overly concerned with minute details; like coherent sentences

does that about sum it up...

i'll await your auspicious retort full of prosaic castigation of me which inturn will predispose my aspersion of your constitution claiming that estrogen is the only hormone present in your subsistence.

oops. I forgot to say that you were covered in a myelin sheath... but i will say that you are a sheath of sorts.

Omen

I just read your message more carefully.
Obviously, you don't understand the meaning of "incomplete" as signifying something lacking.
No, let me be more basic. Myelin is a GOOD THING. Lack of myelin is a BAD THING. Myelin helps the brain transmit useful information, so you would WANT MYELIN in your brain..........
When people get diseases like multiple sclerosis, the myelin layer is damaged. This is NOT a good thing. It is called demyelinating disease. You would NOT want to have demyelinating disease.
However, when I referred to an incomplete myelination, I meant that you perhaps had never had the benefit of it in the first place, not that you had lost any prior myelin. There is a difference, but it will probably take you a few days to understand this, so good night for now, and sleep well......

P.S. Don't worry if you don't understand myelin. They will probably cover this subject soon enough when you get to junior high science class.

[Kiwi Player]

Here are my forgiving, game improvement, hybrid shovels.

All shaft labels removed and grips turned down for asthetics. Paintfill removed from iron #s. GP tour velvet throughout. No mallet putters or tadmoore backhoes here baby.

Unless you're trying to sell them on ebay taking photo's of your clubs, all lined up, polished nice and shiny on parade against the wall has to be far more gay and lame arse than carrying a hybrid.

Or is it that you are getting ready for a new WITB 2008 photo thread?

I suppose you and Omen and Not a Hacker PM photos of your forged 'players' clubs to each other to obsess and fantasize over?

I'm surprised you haven't converted to muscle back blades by now?

[Kiwi Player]

Yeah, I thought of that angle when I started the thread, but I was just trying to balance the nonstop oral defecation about club selection made by certain people on the board who lack the sophistication to realize that there is more than one valid viewpoint on certain subjects.

You're flogging a dead horse with these guys!

[Omen2]

I just read your message more carefully.
Obviously, you don't understand the meaning of "incomplete" as signifying something lacking.
No, let me be more basic. Myelin is a GOOD THING. Lack of myelin is a BAD THING. Myelin helps the brain transmit useful information, so you would WANT MYELIN in your brain..........
When people get diseases like multiple sclerosis, the myelin layer is damaged. This is NOT a good thing. It is called demyelinating disease. You would NOT want to have demyelinating disease.
However, when I referred to an incomplete myelination, I meant that you perhaps had never had the benefit of it in the first place, not that you had lost any prior myelin. There is a difference, but it will probably take you a few days to understand this, so good night for now, and sleep well......

P.S. Don't worry if you don't understand myelin. They will probably cover this subject soon enough when you get to junior high science class.

you would be correct to assume that i did not know about myelin or it's benefits, just as you do not know about forging or it's benefits...

you see medical inormation of that level is not in my current knowledge set just as golf clubs of that caliber are beyond your abilities.

it took me a little while to type my post and i know you had to google some of the words.. you may have understood retard but the others ones were definitely above you.

i dont really care about myelin as a subject because i have no use for knowing about it other than for some useless trivia game. The only thing i care about is expressing my distaste for your vain attempts to seem highly intelligent.

Intelligent people do not in casual conversation use such words as pedantric for the mere fact that the majority of people probably do not use it and therefore will not know it. Any intelligent speaker realizes that the first priority is to ensure that the message is clear and concise for the reciever. Since you have failed to do this i can safely assume that you are an IDIOT, and obviously trying to compensate for something. Perhaps you have never been to an institution of higher learning and so you yearn for that badge, alas grandiloquence will always show your nescience.

so you could always consider the old saying

it is better to be quiet and thought an idiot than to speak and prove it.

Omen...

after you look up grandiloquence and nescience you can respond more aptly.

[dorkman53]

you would be correct to assume that i did not know about myelin or it's benefits, just as you do not know about forging or it's benefits...

you see medical inormation of that level is not in my current knowledge set just as golf clubs of that caliber are beyond your abilities.

it took me a little while to type my post and i know you had to google some of the words.. you may have understood retard but the others ones were definitely above you.

i dont really care about myelin as a subject because i have no use for knowing about it other than for some useless trivia game. The only thing i care about is expressing my distaste for your vain attempts to seem highly intelligent.

Intelligent people do not in casual conversation use such words as pedantric for the mere fact that the majority of people probably do not use it and therefore will not know it. Any intelligent speaker realizes that the first priority is to ensure that the message is clear and concise for the reciever. Since you have failed to do this i can safely assume that you are an IDIOT, and obviously trying to compensate for something. Perhaps you have never been to an institution of higher learning and so you yearn for that badge, alas grandiloquence will always show your nescience.

so you could always consider the old saying

it is better to be quiet and thought an idiot than to speak and prove it.

Omen...

after you look up grandiloquence and nescience you can respond more aptly.

Sorry. I will use small words from now on so you will be able to know what I mean.......

No, I didn't google a single word of anything I posted. You simply can't comprehend this, and I don't care if you believe me or not, but it is the truth.

Just because people in your circle have limited vocabularies does not mean ALL people have limited vocabularies. Just because you see the world in one way does not mean ALL people see the world that way, or are wrong because they don't see the world your way. You are truly a small minded person, as you demonstrate repeatedly. Being able to see the validity of another's viewpoint than your own is a sign of maturity, which I guess is a long time coming in your case.

I don't care whether you use forged blades, cast cavity backs, 2 irons, hybrids, a blade putter, a high MOI putter, painted tees or natural wood tees, or even Brush tees, whether you walk or ride, use club covers or not, wear a hat or not, use sunscreen or not, or floss your teeth or not. Just refrain from assuming that anybody else cares about your dogmatic opinions.

Either you are a true believer in your macho blade ideology, or you are simply a pathetic flamer troll who lacks the imagination necessary to flame and troll on more than one subject. In either case, it doesn't look good for you.......

[bjdrivers]

Unless you're trying to sell them on ebay taking photo's of your clubs, all lined up, polished nice and shiny on parade against the wall has to be far more gay and lame arse than carrying a hybrid.

Or is it that you are getting ready for a new WITB 2008 photo thread?

I suppose you and Omen and Not a Hacker PM photos of your forged 'players' clubs to each other to obsess and fantasize over?

I'm surprised you haven't converted to muscle back blades by now?

1. Thanks! I have some more pics that I will get PM'd to you right away!
2. I think a WITB 2008 photo thread is a great idea!
3. Actually we do share and fantasize over each other's forged irons, you can join in with us as soon as Cleveland learns what a forged iron is.
4. Why should I? I got these for a steal, & they were custom matched to me in a professional fitting. And, as you've pointed out, they are quite shiny.

[bjdrivers]

notice the loft of my hybrid, its not an iron replacement, its a 4 wood replacement.

Well it's bad enough to replace a long iron because you can't hit it, but having to replace a fairway wood because you can't hit it is even worse.

[LyleG]

Trust me, I would play you for money any day of the week.

[Kiwi Player]

1. Thanks! I have some more pics that I will get PM'd to you right away!
2. I think a WITB 2008 photo thread is a great idea!
3. Actually we do share and fantasize over each other's forged irons, you can join in with us as soon as Cleveland learns what a forged iron is.
4. Why should I? I got these for a steal, & they were custom matched to me in a professional fitting. And, as you've pointed out, they are quite shiny.

2. WITB 2008 = What's in the bag. Not Whats lined up against the wall after I've finished polishing them.

3. I've recently switched from Cleveland to Taylormade cast cavity back POS irons. After demoing MP60's I realised I'm not good enough to join your club.

4. Surely those POS forgiving cavity backs are holding back your game by covering up and hiding your swing flaws? Surely would be better served by the grain flow forging of MP32 or MP67's that can give you feedback on off centre hits?

I also noticed you don't have a 2 iron. Man up, throw that extra wedge out and add a 2 iron. You shouldn't need a gap wedge as you will reach all par 5's in two with a 2 iron or else lay up to a full PW instead of a GW.

Just my 2 cents!

[bjdrivers]

2. WITB 2008 = What's in the bag. Not Whats lined up against the wall after I've finished polishing them.

3. I've recently switched from Cleveland to Taylormade cast cavity back POS irons. After demoing MP60's I realised I'm not good enough to join your club.

4. Surely those POS forgiving cavity backs are holding back your game by covering up and hiding your swing flaws? Surely would be better served by the grain flow forging of MP32 or MP67's that can give you feedback on off centre hits?

I also noticed you don't have a 2 iron. Man up, throw that extra wedge out and add a 2 iron. You shouldn't need a gap wedge as you will reach all par 5's in two with a 2 iron or else lay up to a full PW instead of a GW.

Just my 2 cents!

2. I've already posted pics of my shiny FORGED irons in my bag. I wanted everyone to see my immaculate wall.

3. So you switched from CAST POS to CAST POS. What are you trying to accomplish there? Who's next, Callaway or PING? Yes, Mizuno GRAIN FLOW FORGED irons will show you where you stand.

4. Forged cavity backs, yes, POS, no. Just ask the current Masters champion. You've obviously never demo'd FORGED 690cb irons, they will punish you for swing flaws, not assist you. These are TITLEIST irons, not TAYLOR MADE. I used to play Mizuno MP33 GRAIN FLOW FORGED blades. Played them for 2 years, the faces wore out and I sold them & went on to other things because I'm a verified club whore. I had the same handicap with them as I do now with cavity backs. The only way I will get better and lower my handicap at this point is to vastly improve my short game, which is unlikely since I don't have time to practice. MP33 is the COMMANDER IN CHIEF, EL PRESIDENTE, LORD & MASTER, HIGH COUNSIL, EMPORER, & PRIME MINISTER of forged blades.

I covered the 2 iron/driving iron thing in another thread. I would much rather carry 4 wedges since the majority of scoring in golf is inside of 100 yards.

- drivers, the MP33 of thread hijackers.

[Omen2]

Sorry. I will use small words from now on so you will be able to know what I mean.......

No, I didn't google a single word of anything I posted. You simply can't comprehend this, and I don't care if you believe me or not, but it is the truth.

Just because people in your circle have limited vocabularies does not mean ALL people have limited vocabularies. Just because you see the world in one way does not mean ALL people see the world that way, or are wrong because they don't see the world your way. You are truly a small minded person, as you demonstrate repeatedly. Being able to see the validity of another's viewpoint than your own is a sign of maturity, which I guess is a long time coming in your case.

I don't care whether you use forged blades, cast cavity backs, 2 irons, hybrids, a blade putter, a high MOI putter, painted tees or natural wood tees, or even Brush tees, whether you walk or ride, use club covers or not, wear a hat or not, use sunscreen or not, or floss your teeth or not. Just refrain from assuming that anybody else cares about your dogmatic opinions.

Either you are a true believer in your macho blade ideology, or you are simply a pathetic flamer troll who lacks the imagination necessary to flame and troll on more than one subject. In either case, it doesn't look good for you.......

funny i thought you would say something new since you are always scolding me for saying the same thing over and over...

funny how quickly you have become a hypocrite.

You are the simple minded one. think about how much you have chased this.. how often you have chased this. Has anyone else been led like a donkey so willingly down this tired old thread.. NO ONLY YOU. Why? because you are to phucking stupid to realize what's going on. You amuse me to no end... and are quit possibly the most naive person i've ever met... are you blonde by any chance?

i wish i didnt have school because i would love to continue this banter and to verbal assault you again and again. It's not your fault entirely... I am more intelligent than you and my tactics have been very sophisticated and therefore you haven't really stood a real chance to avoid this whole mess.... sure most 20 year old people would have recognized it for what it was but since you are still preteen there was no hope.

I have enjoyed watching you chase your tail and i bid you farewell... untill the next time i start the blades vs. cavity thread.

Omen

[bjdrivers]

[QUOTE=collegegolfer]I thought Mickelson had two drivers? [QUOTE]

He does. That way he can nail both hospitality tents on each side of the fairway before playing his 2nd provisional.

[Kiwi Player]

3. So you switched from CAST POS to CAST POS. What are you trying to accomplish there? Who's next, Callaway or PING? Yes, Mizuno GRAIN FLOW FORGED irons will show you where you stand.

[/B]

The clevelands were in my bag almost two years. Any longer and I wouldn't have fitted in the rest of the club ho's on this great forum!

[bjdrivers]

The clevelands were in my bag almost two years. Any longer and I wouldn't have fitted in the rest of the club ho's on this great forum!

I understand completely, but if you're gonna ho, do it the right way. Don't sell your chevy malibu for a ford focus. Sell your chevy malibu for a pre-owned Lexus.

[Kiwi Player]

I understand completely, but if you're gonna ho, do it the right way. Don't sell your chevy malibu for a ford focus. Sell your chevy malibu for a pre-owned Lexus.

Well just being serious here for about 2 minutes I went from oversize offset Ta6's to smaller less offset thinner topline R7 TP's. A sort of transition club between oversize GI and smaller players clubs.

[bjdrivers]

Well just being serious here for about 2 minutes I went from oversize offset Ta6's to smaller less offset thinner topline R7 TP's. A sort of transition club between oversize GI and smaller players clubs.

That perfectly makes my point. You went from CAST POS to CAST POS.

[Kiwi Player]

That perfectly makes my point. You went from CAST POS to CAST POS.

Damn right! Like a good ho I went from a perfectly good set of clubs to another good set of clubs just because they were there.

[LyleG]

Bj, you do realize that the 690 series irons are amongst the hardest forgings on the market. Harder in fact than a lot of modern castings. Casting has improved dramatically allowing for the use of much softer metals, the same metals used in many quality forgings. If its the same steel it matters not if its forged or cast. If you believe otherwise you have simply fallen for a bunch of mumbo jumbo.

[daveperk]

If its the same steel it matters not if its forged or cast. If you believe otherwise you have simply fallen for a bunch of mumbo jumbo.

Mumbomen2 Jumbomen2 you mean...

[bjdrivers]

Bj, you do realize that the 690 series irons are amongst the hardest forgings on the market. Harder in fact than a lot of modern castings. Casting has improved dramatically allowing for the use of much softer metals, the same metals used in many quality forgings. If its the same steel it matters not if its forged or cast. If you believe otherwise you have simply fallen for a bunch of mumbo jumbo.

LyleGAY, we all know the knowledge and experience you have with MEN'S SHAFTS, but you should probably steer clear of the HEADS ATTACHED TO MEN'S SHAFTS for now.

P.S. Don't apply for any jobs at Mizuno.

[LyleG]

great response big guy

[bjdrivers]

oh,
thanks eh

[daveperk]

LyleGAY, we all know the knowledge and experience you have with MEN'S SHAFTS, but you should probably steer clear of the HEADS ATTACHED TO MEN'S SHAFTS for now.

P.S. Don't apply for any jobs at Mizuno.

P.P.S. bjdrivers don't apply for any of those open writers' jobs at Letterman or Leno.

[bjdrivers]

P.P.S. bjdrivers don't apply for any of those open writers' jobs at Letterman or Leno.

Don't worry Kiwi, I'm not looking for a cut in pay. I love Leno, he's good enough to write his own crap I think.

[Kiwi Player]

Don't worry Kiwi, I'm not looking for a cut in pay. I love Leno, he's good enough to write his own crap I think.

Don't you mean Daveperk?

[dorkman53]

funny i thought you would say something new since you are always scolding me for saying the same thing over and over...

funny how quickly you have become a hypocrite.

You are the simple minded one. think about how much you have chased this.. how often you have chased this. Has anyone else been led like a donkey so willingly down this tired old thread.. NO ONLY YOU. Why? because you are to phucking stupid to realize what's going on. You amuse me to no end... and are quit possibly the most naive person i've ever met... are you blonde by any chance?

i wish i didnt have school because i would love to continue this banter and to verbal assault you again and again. It's not your fault entirely... I am more intelligent than you and my tactics have been very sophisticated and therefore you haven't really stood a real chance to avoid this whole mess.... sure most 20 year old people would have recognized it for what it was but since you are still preteen there was no hope.

I have enjoyed watching you chase your tail and i bid you farewell... untill the next time i start the blades vs. cavity thread.

Omen

So the pathetic troll is the case, not the mindless zealot. You can be proud of yourself for your accomplishments, and join a long list of other wackos who derive some sort of deviant power rush from acting like an idiot on an anonymous internet board.
Congratulations.

Despite your attempts to appear intelligent, I still stand by my belief that you are a person of average intelligence at best, and some of your attempts to defend yourself expose genuine stupidity, which can't be faked by a flaming troll.

When I was able to get you to lose your temper, you reminded me of an angry bull. You just kept charging the matador, just to get another cut. Sort of Benguk-like, actually.......

[Benguk_]

So the pathetic troll is the case, not the mindless zealot. You can be proud of yourself for your accomplishments, and join a long list of other wackos who derive some sort of deviant power rush from acting like an idiot on an anonymous internet board.
Congratulations.

Despite your attempts to appear intelligent, I still stand by my belief that you are a person of average intelligence at best, and some of your attempts to defend yourself expose genuine stupidity, which can't be faked by a flaming troll.

When I was able to get you to lose your temper, you reminded me of an angry bull. You just kept charging the matador, just to get another cut. Sort of Benguk-like, actually.......

Ew, don't pair me with Omen.