Where are his records?

[wofat]

Yeah this is good stuff:

"In an August 23, 2008, article about Berg's lawsuit, WND claimed it had examined Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate with forgery experts and, "found the document to be authentic," contradicting claims made in other WND articles and in Corsi's book.[49] However, on December 20, after numerous liberal websites, politicians and media personalities touted WND's findings, Joseph Farah claimed in a WND column that the forgery experts had not actually concluded it was authentic and that, "None of them could report conclusively that the electronic image [of the birth certificate on Obama's campaign website] was authentic or that it was a forgery."[50] After MSNBC's Keith Olbermann named Farah the "Worst Person in the World" on his show, Countdown, for his apparent reversal, Farah defended himself, claiming, "the veracity of that image was never the major issue of contention. Rather, the major issue is where is the rest of the birth certificate – the part that explains where the baby was born, who the delivery doctor was, etc...I can tell you WND has done its part to find out the truth."[51]

In a February 10, 2009, column, Janet Porter further alleged that President Obama was acting as a mole for the Soviet Union. Porter suggested that Obama was raised as an atheist and Communist and was subsequently trained by Soviet agents during the early 1990s. Porter also suggested that Obama's election as president was the result of a long-term Communist conspiracy. Porter's only evidence for these allegations was a series of uncorroborated claims made to her by an American computer programmer, who claimed to have spoken to a Russian scientist in 1994 who told him that Obama was a Communist and was being groomed by Russian agents to infiltrate the presidency.[52][53]"

Source here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily

Definitely a trustworthy news source.

[lorenzoinoc]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...&pageId=102624

DOZENS of lawyers are risking sanctions for frivolous filing-- and they just don't do that. If there were not significant substance to this, it would go away.

Larry

There is seldom any risk whatsoever of sanctions for the filing of a frivolous lawsuit. Never when there is any basis at all for them. Everything you have to say on this is total and complete crap and shows what an utter moron you are.

[alangbaker]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...&pageId=102624

World Net Daily is all over this. Their staff writer is Jerome Corsi, PhD from Harvard, 40+ scholarly books including "Obama Nation" which I read. I don't know everything, but I have done enough digging to know more than most--and more tahn you!

Corsi went to Kenya last year--and was jailed! Why? The aunt has disappeared. Why? I think we all know why-- The whole Obama team, with millions invested in having their own pet president, is desperate to protect the information that might make him ineligible.

But it will come out--I am just an interested observer. People with money and power are filing lawsuits about this in federal court-- DOZENS of lawyers are risking sanctions for frivolous filing-- and they just don't do that. If there were not significant substance to this, it would go away.

Funny.

This sounds a lot like when you "guaranteed" the Republicans were going to sweep back into power... ...when you "guaranteed" that Obama was going to lose the election...

Let's face the facts, Larry: you're an ignorant jerk; a loser with an inferiority complex.

[Larryrsf]

So, just so I've got things straight.... you believe this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Corsi

I see.

Nobody here could carry Jerome Corsi's briefcase! You ridicule someone with more education and more concrete accomplishments, (40 books--most having long weeks on the NYT Bestseller list) than you could ever hope for.

I don't "believe" Corsi as much as I agree with him and others that there is mounting evidence that Obama may not have been eligible to be president. Obama was not vetted like McCain and Palin because he is black-- and from Chicago. Very simply, incredible as it may seem, nobody checked! Nobody did their homework to verify his education or his birth. NOBODY CHECKED! Nobody walked the streets of Chicago and asked how he got that house. Nobody did what they did to Sarah Palin. Everyone thought someone else did it-- so nobody did. NOBODY was willing to risk the "racist" tag that would surely be screamed if they were seen checking in Hawaii or LA or NYC or Chicago. So nobody would risk it, not even Fox News. And not even top level talk radio like Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity.

And this same scenario is the reason Obama is here, having skated through several schools without doing the work-- which explains why he won't allow his transcripts to be released.

I know you know it could be true-- so you ridicule me...

Larry

[Not a hacker]

Larry,

J K Rowling and Tolkein could buy and sell that bum Corsi on weight of numbers of books sold, so that does that mean you believe in boy wizards, and that middle earth is actual earth pre history?

[alangbaker]

Nobody here could carry Jerome Corsi's briefcase! You ridicule someone with more education and more concrete accomplishments, (40 books--most having long weeks on the NYT Bestseller list) than you could ever hope for.

I don't "believe" Corsi as much as I agree with him and others that there is mounting evidence that Obama may not have been eligible to be president. Obama was not vetted like McCain and Palin because he is black-- and from Chicago. Very simply, incredible as it may seem, nobody checked! Nobody did their homework to verify his education or his birth. NOBODY CHECKED! Nobody walked the streets of Chicago and asked how he got that house. Nobody did what they did to Sarah Palin. Everyone thought someone else did it-- so nobody did. NOBODY was willing to risk the "racist" tag that would surely be screamed if they were seen checking in Hawaii or LA or NYC or Chicago. So nobody would risk it, not even Fox News. And not even top level talk radio like Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity.

And this same scenario is the reason Obama is here, having skated through several schools without doing the work-- which explains why he won't allow his transcripts to be released.

I know you know it could be true-- so you ridicule me...

So in one breath, you present Corsi as an authority based on his Ph.D. and then you deny Obama's education because you say he "skated through several schools without doing the work"; a claim for which you provide no support.

You know that Corsi is on record as believing in "abiotic oil production"...

...and that "President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union"...

...and that the twin towers were brought down by explosives and not the fact that they were hit by two jetliners full of fuel...

...you know these things, right?

He's a nut job, Larry, but then "birds of a feather", right?

[lorenzoinoc]

Figures the guinea author is a wackjob.

More load for some of us to carry, eh Nifty?

[poe4soul]

Nut job or crazy like a fox?

[Not a German]

Nut job or crazy like a fox?

On my best days, this is what I hope people think about me.

[FreakOfNature]

Abiotic oil production.

Oh my...

I bet geologists and paleontologists are chomping at the bit to get in line and invest in that one. That must be what Madoff needed the 50 billion dollars for.



FON

[Larryrsf]

Larry,

J K Rowling and Tolkein could buy and sell that bum Corsi on weight of numbers of books sold, so that does that mean you believe in boy wizards, and that middle earth is actual earth pre history?

Read his book/s. If you are competent to assess an author's ability to assemble the background information and assimilate it into an organization and then write an entire book that is logically persuasive, you will find that Corsi is extremely competent at his craft. He told the Obama story with factual references that are irrefutable. He has challenged any and all who disagree to present their refutation facts. None did. "Obama Nation" readers learned about his subject--and in the case of Obama, learned that that crooked Chicago lightweight should never have become Senator, much less President.

The other stuff is irrelevant.

Larry

[NiftyNiblick]

Figures the guinea author is a wackjob.

More load for some of us to carry, eh Nifty?

You don't know the crap my lefty friends give me over Antonin Scalia.
And where the hell did he get that pronunciation of his own name?.

[alangbaker]

Read his book/s. If you are competent to assess an author's ability to assemble the background information and assimilate it into an organization and then write an entire book that is logically persuasive, you will find that Corsi is extremely competent at his craft.

Do you mean his book where he argues for the existence of "abiotic oil production"...

...or the one where he tries to prove that Dubya was trying to form a North American super state...

...or the one where he falls in with the 9/11 conspiracy nuts.

He told the Obama story with factual references that are irrefutable. He has challenged any and all who disagree to present their refutation facts. None did. "Obama Nation" readers learned about his subject--and in the case of Obama, learned that that crooked Chicago lightweight should never have become Senator, much less President.

The other stuff is irrelevant.

Actually, he was refuted in detail, here:

http://obama.3cdn.net/a74586f9067028c40a_5km6vrqwa.pdf

Example:

Corsi lie: “Obama did not dedicate Dreams from My Father to his mother, or to his father, Barack Senior,
or to his Indonesian stepfather. Missing from the dedication are the grandparents who raised him
in Hawaii, especially during the years his mother abandoned him to return to Indonesia to be
with Lolo.” [p 49]

Reality: OBAMA DID DEDICATE HIS BOOK TO HIS FAMILY
Obama Wrote That He Owed “The Deepest Gratitude” And “Dedicated” His Book To “My Mother, My
Grandparents, My Siblings, Stretched Across Oceans And Continents.” “It is to my family, though -- my
mother, my grandparents, my siblings, stretched across oceans and continents -- that I owe the deepest gratitude
and to whom I dedicated this book. Without their constant love and support, without their willingness to let me
sing their song and their toleration of the occasional wrong note, I could never have hoped to finish. If nothing
else, I hope that the love and respect I feel for them shines through on every page.” [Dreams From My Father, p
xvii]

Is this the kind of thing that you're calling "irrefutable", Larry?

[GoHuskers]

Forgive my ignorance, Larry, but if his mother was a US citizen and he was born in another country, wouldn't he still be a US citizen? Unless she had renounced her US citizenship, I believe that this is the case of children born overseas to US citizens. John McCain was not born in the US; his father was in the military, and he was born in another country, but is still a US citizen by virtue of his parents' US citizenship. Why does this not apply to Obama, even if his father wasn't a US citizen?
We have close friends who are US citizens who had one of their 3 children when they were in Rwanda. I don't think this jeopardized the citizenship of that child. Is there a difference between a child born overseas if only the mother is a US citizen? Enlighten us, please; you seem to have put considerable mental effort into this problem.

I'm not positive on this subject, but I've had quite a few friends that had children in Germany. As far as I know, you have an entitlement to US citizenship as long as you fill out the appropriate paperwork. Its been explained to me in the past but I forgot. The bottom line is that you are not automatically granted citizenship you have to apply on behalf of your child. The program details shouldn't be too hard to Google.

[GoHuskers]

Does it really matter? The bottom line is the man was elected. The government put its seal of approval on his candidacy. He won. IMO he should be given at least one year in office before we form our conclusions about his job as the president. IMO, the presidency is the one office where your past track record isn't a good predictor of the decisions you will make in office. I don't like Bill Clinton but he was for more pro-active about Osama before 9/11 than W was. W had the chance to pursue Osama into Tora Bora and felt that politically his capture should be made by NA guys. Whether we could've caught him in Tora Bora is a wild card but we should've gave it our best effort instead of sending LBG's to do it for us.

As a Republican I can't stand when my party makes these ludicrous accusations. I don't like the far left because I disagree with the majority of their platform. But I absolutely hate the far right with their anti-flouridation bs and other ridiculous stories that stain the party. They drive swing voters across the aisle... Larry

For the record abiotic oil production is possible as a scientific challenge. It will never be cost effective. Using Prokaryotic shells with the appropriate DNA inserted into the Genophore to make the substrates which lead to affordable oil production may be possible down the road. I don't think its the solution to the renewable energy though.

[alangbaker]

For the record abiotic oil production is possible as a scientific challenge. It will never be cost effective. Using Prokaryotic shells with the appropriate DNA inserted into the Genophore to make the substrates which lead to affordable oil production may be possible down the road. I don't think its the solution to the renewable energy though.

Just to clarify: Corsi doesn't believe that oil could be produced abioticly in some new fashion. Corsi is one of those nutcases who believes that that is how oil got in the ground in the first place; that we don't need to worry about it running out, because more is being made all the time abioticly.

[Larryrsf]

I'm not positive on this subject, but I've had quite a few friends that had children in Germany. As far as I know, you have an entitlement to US citizenship as long as you fill out the appropriate paperwork. Its been explained to me in the past but I forgot. The bottom line is that you are not automatically granted citizenship you have to apply on behalf of your child. The program details shouldn't be too hard to Google.

The rules are a matter of federal statute. Look them up. There is absolutely no doubt that a president MUST be a "natural born citizen" and 35 years old. The definition for "natural born" is spelled out quite explicitely.

When Obama was born in Kenya--his mother was only 17, having been molested in Hawaii by a married older man with 4 other wives in Kenya. Who know how a girl barely 17--and possibly even 16, got out unsupervised that night.

Larry

[GoHuskers]

Just to clarify: Corsi doesn't believe that oil could be produced abioticly in some new fashion. Corsi is one of those nutcases who believes that that is how oil got in the ground in the first place; that we don't need to worry about it running out, because more is being made all the time abioticly.

Wow, what scholar. I guess you start traveling the country protesting counties that are thinking about flouridating their water and who knows what academic discoveries are possible. Some hole up in ranches, Some take the American tour.

[alangbaker]

The rules are a matter of federal statute. Look them up. There is absolutely no doubt that a president MUST be a "natural born citizen" and 35 years old. The definition for "natural born" is spelled out quite explicitely.

When Obama was born in Kenya--his mother was only 17, having been molested in Hawaii by a married older man with 4 other wives in Kenya. Who know how a girl barely 17--and possibly even 16, got out unsupervised that night.

Sorry, Larry, but you remain as delusional as ever.

"Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs."

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

[wofat]

Sorry, Larry, but you remain as delusional as ever.

"Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs."

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

Oh please, even Larry know's that Fact check (and WND for that matter) are just tools of the left meant to misinform and dissolusion the true (read: crazy) Americans.

You can't answer nuts with reason. It simply won't work.

This is firmly a 'tin foil hat' zone.



Note: This is an ACTUAL picture of Larry... I think.

[Larryrsf]

Oh please, even Larry know's that Fact check (and WND for that matter) are just tools of the left meant to misinform and dissolusion the true (read: crazy) Americans.

You can't answer nuts with reason. It simply won't work.

This is firmly a 'tin foil hat' zone.



Note: This is an ACTUAL picture of Larry... I think.

If it were authentic, they would release it. Duh.

Instead they prefer to spend hundreds of thousands on legal fees to quash the dozens of lawsuits demanding he prove his citizenship. NONE of that would be necessary if they could simply produce a birth certificate signed by a physician.

It will come out-and Obama will be required to show cause why he should not be impeached for ineligibility.

Larry

[alangbaker]

If it were authentic, they would release it. Duh.

They did. Duh.

Instead they prefer to spend hundreds of thousands on legal fees to quash the dozens of lawsuits demanding he prove his citizenship. NONE of that would be necessary if they could simply produce a birth certificate signed by a physician.

They've produced what the State of Hawaii issued them.

It will come out-and Obama will be required to show cause why he should not be impeached for ineligibility.

Will this prediction be as accurate as your prediction that he'd win the election...

...or that the Republicans would maintain control of congress in the last election?

LOL

[Larryrsf]

Alan, butt out. Regardless of your position, we Americans don't really care what a poorly educated Canadian thinks about America's politics. We don't butt into Canada's politics--because it is none of our business. Go back to the golf discussions--

Larry

[alangbaker]

Alan, butt out. Regardless of your position, we Americans don't really care what a poorly educated Canadian thinks about America's politics. We don't butt into Canada's politics--because it is none of our business. Go back to the golf discussions--

With all due respect, Larry: bite me.

This is a forum that is free for anyone to use. Don't blame me that I present facts while you present nonsense.

As for sticking to golf, we've pretty well seen in your latest scores how your ideas about the golf swing should be valued...

[Larryrsf]

With all due respect, Larry: bite me....

Let me amend my statement about you, I should have said, "poorly educated with no class."

Larry

[alangbaker]

Let me amend my statement about you, I should have said, "poorly educated with no class."

No class would be making insults and then hiding behind the idea that phrasing them differently makes them any less insulting.

You're a loser.

[poe4soul]

Alan,

We've said the same thing over and over to our dear OLD Larry. He's in denial and doesn't want to be bothered with the truth when fiction is much more interesting. What he doesn't understand is that this is not about Obama but about the State of Hawaii. They're the ones that will not release the original. The State has been upheld in the US Federal Courts and it's either above his comprehension or he doesn't want to be bothered with the truth.

If I were the doctor that delivered Obama I would be ecstatic that they are not releasing my name. Could you imagine being bothered by these conspiracy nuts?

[Larryrsf]

Alan,

We've said the same thing over and over to our dear OLD Larry. He's in denial and doesn't want to be bothered with the truth when fiction is much more interesting. What he doesn't understand is that this is not about Obama but about the State of Hawaii. They're the ones that will not release the original. The State has been upheld in the US Federal Courts and it's either above his comprehension or he doesn't want to be bothered with the truth.

If I were the doctor that delivered Obama I would be ecstatic that they are not releasing my name. Could you imagine being bothered by these conspiracy nuts?

Or-- there is no original birth certificate--and Obama's aunt in Kenya who signed a sworn affadavit that she witnessed his birth there was quite correct.

There is a huge eBay flap right now-- with people in Kenya selling certified copies of his Kenya birth certificate--

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=102271

As Jerome Corsi learned, there are powerful forces in Kenya and elsewhere that want this issue to remain covered up. He was in fear of his life in Kenya.

Obviously there is something there. That is the only logical explanation to their desperation to stop any and all investigations into the persistent rumors that Obama was born in Kenya-- and that several living witnesses swore they witnessed it.

Larry


.

[alangbaker]

Or-- there is no original birth certificate--and Obama's aunt in Kenya who signed a sworn affadavit that she witnessed his birth there was quite correct.

And you know this, how, exactly? Look up "circular argument".

The fact is that people have seen the birth certificate that was put on the web and it is a perfectly ordinary Hawaiian birth certificate. Hawaii doesn't send out the original nor copies of the original long form document.

There is a huge eBay flap right now-- with people in Kenya selling certified copies of his Kenya birth certificate--

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=102271

Riiiiiight. Because no one would ever put anything fraudulent up on eBay....

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

As Jerome Corsi learned, there are powerful forces in Kenya and elsewhere that want this issue to remain covered up. He was in fear of his life in Kenya.

So says the nutjob who believes in abiotic oil production, that Bush was trying to create a North American Union and that there was a conspiracy to bring down the WTC with explosives.

Obviously there is something there. That is the only logical explanation to their desperation to stop any and all investigations into the persistent rumors that Obama was born in Kenya-- and that several living witnesses swore they witnessed it.

Other than this alleged affadavit by his aunt (of which you've never produced a single image, BTW), who has sworn to it?

Go on, Larry: impress me with how much more thorough your educated self can be!

LOL

[collegegolfer]

I got my birth certificate from a box of Wheaties. What's the big deal?

[poe4soul]

Is it signed by a physician? If not your an illegitimate person and should be stoned or locked in a room with a loop of Sarah Palin's recorded ramblings.

[poe4soul]

Or a dingo ate the baby and was replaced with an alien then given a COB in hawaii (not a birth certificate). LOL.

Larry, I truly have proof of Obama being born in Kenya. Just send me $1000 to my Paypal account and I'll send you a copy of his real Kenya Birth Certificate. Send be a private message and I'll get you the information for my account.

[alangbaker]

Is it signed by a physician? If not your an illegitimate person and should be stoned or locked in a room with a loop of Sarah Palin's recorded ramblings.

Hey! My birth certificate (as issued by the Province of British Columbia) isn't signed by a physician and doesn't have a seal.

I guess that means I wasn't born in Nanaimo after all...

::sigh::

[collegegolfer]

I was born via c-section. Guess my dreams of being president are gone since I wasn't "natural born."

[Larryrsf]

Hey! My birth certificate (as issued by the Province of British Columbia) isn't signed by a physician and doesn't have a seal.

I guess that means I wasn't born in Nanaimo after all...

::sigh::

Sorry everyone. A loon has followed me here from other forums. As you can see, Alan Baker is totally obsessed with me-- he cannot get me out of his mind, apparently. He has been banned from several golf discussion forums for what amounts to "stalking" by posting only to or about me. The moderators warn him, but he does it anyhow-- and soon gets banned.

I will refrain from posting here to spare everyone this ugly scene.

Larry

[alangbaker]

Sorry everyone. A loon has followed me here from other forums. As you can see, Alan Baker is totally obsessed with me-- he cannot get me out of his mind, apparently. He has been banned from several golf discussion forums for what amounts to "stalking" by posting only to or about me. The moderators warn him, but he does it anyhow-- and soon gets banned.

I will refrain from posting here to spare everyone this ugly scene.

Oh, Larry...

Lying again, and in reply to a post that wasn't even a reply to you. I guess by your definition that means you're stalking me.

It's just... ...sad.

[Kiwi Player]

I will refrain from posting here to spare everyone this ugly scene.

You promise?

[Kiwi Player]

Or-- there is no original birth certificate--and Obama's aunt in Kenya who signed a sworn affadavit that she witnessed his birth there was quite correct.

There is a huge eBay flap right now-- with people in Kenya selling certified copies of his Kenya birth certificate--

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=102271

As Jerome Corsi learned, there are powerful forces in Kenya and elsewhere that want this issue to remain covered up. He was in fear of his life in Kenya.

Obviously there is something there. That is the only logical explanation to their desperation to stop any and all investigations into the persistent rumors that Obama was born in Kenya-- and that several living witnesses swore they witnessed it.

Larry


.

Larry you small minded, insular, xenophobic moron. Have you ever ventured more than 10 miles out of Rancho Santa Fe?

[wofat]

Don't say I didn't warn you.