Official Hybrid Debate

[Omen2]

allright GR let's get this done.

I am going to offer up this

Most of you who support the use and awesomeness of the hybrid claim it offers one significant benefit: it hits the ball high and lands soft.

you support this neccessity by saying that the pros are playing it and therefore it is to be used by all

you also claim that if you have a long approach into a front pin you cant stop a long iron like you can a hybrid.

one other common arguement is that the long iron is unforgiving

well here is my position and my reasoning for being against them

the pros play on rock hard greens that are dried out and running about 12+ on the stimp. so for them the long iron will not stop and if its a front pin behind a bunker there is no way to get it even remotely close:
we however do not play under these conditions. very few of us are playing greens that fast but definitely none of us play them that hard. Because greens that dry and short DIE. therefore our conditional need is negated.

pros also play them over the long iron due to the sums of money they are playing for: a slight mishit with a long iron could cost them a tournament and we all now that could mean any number of really bad things: not keeping there card, not making a team event i.e ryder cup, etc. etc.
since none of our livelihoods rely on golf the need to never ever have a mishit cost us one stroke is not there.

look if you dont shoot in the 70's consistently then you probably aren't giving up more than 1 or 2 strokes a round max. also if you are not shooting 70's consistently then you probably have other things to concern yourself with then holding a front pin from a long approach, in fact the odds of you finding the green alone is probably less than 30%.... with or without a hybrid.

one arguement for the long iron is playing from rough. even the pros cant hit hybrids out of rough, the long iron has less resistance in the rough and has a better chance of success than a hybrid.

now in all seriousness i would agree that a 2 iron is not really a better choice than a five wood or an equivalent hybrid. if you are using one to replace the deuce or 5 wood that is logical and i have no problem with that.

what i will say is anyone carrying multiple hybrids is probably not a very skilled player and is not gaining anything by playing them.

learning how to hit long irons will improve your ballstriking, they are less forgiving than the hybrid, but that helps you develop a better swing. you need a really good tempo to hit them properly and if there is one common flaw in the majority of amateurs its the lack of a decent tempo.

i really feel that the long iron is the best thing for your iron play. besides when do you stop replacing irons with hybrids, at the wedge?

i mean seriously is the 3i more difficult to hit than the 4i, or the 5i than the 6i, or the 7i than the 8i.......... why would you choose the quick swing flaw masking over effective practice? If you cant hit a long iron its a swing flaw, WHY wouldn't you want to fix it?

the pros, for the most part, do not have swing flaws, they can all hit their long irons, they only play the hybrid because they are good enough to hit it close from long range and need it to stop quick.

Omen
.. so 64 and Edgey, what is wrong with that logic?

[poe4soul]

The only flaw in the logic is based on swing speed. If you don't have a swing speed above 100mph then I would recommend a 7 wood or a hybrid equivalent. The only exception would be if you are young or inexperienced and it's a reasonable that you will grow into the long irons. If you don't have a high swing speed the argument of getting out of the rough is irrelevant because you don't have the strength and should just play a mid/short iron out.

For example, my dad's 73 and his swing speed is 90-95 depending on how flexible he is that day. He's not a chopper (posted a 69 last month and has a 5 hcp) and he does carry a 7w at times. He's deadly with it - launches high and lands soft. His 4 iron does not hold the greens as well. He also lives in NM were the greens are rock hard in the summer. Smart play for him if you ask me is the 7w. With your logic he might as well add a point or two to his HCP.

What I'm getting at is your logic is based on a narrow section of golfers. Many people just don't have the swing speed to hit a long iron with a high enough launch angle and spin. That's why the hybrids are beneficial. This doesn't make them hackers.

I use a 20* hybrid as a 3 and 5 wood replacement so I guess I'm in the clear. I own some three woods that I like but I find that having two clubs of the same style is more consistent for me. I've tried a few Callaway 5w and to tell you the truth it was easier to hit than my hybrid. It was so easy I thought it would be cheating to use it and thought it also lacked the shot making ability that I can achieve the the baffler pro hybrid.

I agree that there are many hackers that have many hybrids but if I was recommending a set to the recreationalgolfer who has no time/desire to practice, then I would probably recommend a thick soled hybrid/iron set.

So? that doesn't make them gay any more than your flippy wrist drive makes you gay.

PS - As it's been pointed out many times here, you seem to be overly overt to homosexuality. Is there something you need to admit to yourself and all of us? Does the squeaky wheel need the lube?

[Omen2]

okay fine i am only talking about golfers who do not have physically debilitating condition, be it age or medical.

again i'm pretty sure i prefer pus.sy to di.ck. i think only the queers on here bring sexuality into the conversation which leaves me in the clear. I dont call anyone gay that doesn't epitomize fa.ggotry.

my flippy wrist drive is a swing flaw with the driver that i am working on. i have been doing some drills and for the most part it seems to be pretty decent, ball flight is much lower and seems to be going a bit further...

the flippy wrist drive was gay... is gay... and that's why i'm working so hard and getting rid of it. when you take as long off as i did bad habits can easily form.

i learned to play in nm so i can vouche for the hard greens there. they just dont get enough rain to give them more pliable than bedrock.

but the majority of us play on rather soft receptive greens.

and what you said about the recreational golfer is the main reason i hate the hybrid. these people that have no desire to improve now have equipment that kind of makes there game semi playable. and so they do. if all they sold were MB's these people would quit and make golf more enjoyable for those of us who really take it beyond something to do 5 times a year with 3 buddies and a 30 pack.

they have nascar, football, baseball, and a host of other "sports" to enjoy getting drunk at, why do they have to infringe on mine. what's worse is that they cost me valuable time, and undue frustration.

same goes for MWT.

[Kiwi Player]

I would like to enter this debate but I fell asleep with boredom a third of the way through Omen's long winded discourse.

Sorry!

[jambalaya]

If you are a good golfer you can hit any club well. I have a 3 and 4 hybrid because I chose that setup for my current set of clubs but I can't honestly say they have helped my game to any degree. I seriously do not think over the entire time I've owned them that they have improved my game by even one stroke. If my swing were to greatly improve, I think it would still be the case.

[MJFGolf]

I would like to enter this debate but I fell asleep with boredom a third of the way through Omen's long winded discourse.

Sorry!

Manufacturers are going to try and make clubs that serve both the pro and the average player. And hybrids serve both. While I have been lucky enough in my past to own, use and hit long irons reasonably well, they are still more difficult to hit than hybrids or shorter fairway woods. Now do I think that with practice other players could learn to use them? Sure, that would just be re-stating the obvious. However, most players do not have the time to devote to practicing at least three times a week; playing at least twice, etc., which I think are the minimums to acquire, keep and maintain a good single digit handicap.

This game is meant to be ENJOYED at whatever level you play. To be honest, without getting into an argument, I think that Omen should play whatever he wants and Edgey should play whatever he wants or they think suit their game. The new hybrids are useful and great clubs. Do long irons have their place? Sure, but as time has progressed, the lofts of clubs have decreased over time, so that what use to be a 5 iron is now a 6 iron; what used to be a 7 iron is now an 8 iron. Therefore, keeping within the spirit of the game and USGA rule of 14 clubs, I think that hybrids are useful clubs to substitute for long irons. Just how many shots are you going to use a long iron for anyway during a normal round? Not many!

Having been fit by a master PGA professional, a designation beyond your normal Class A pro, who is both familiar with my game, my course, etc., and who has fit me---I let him design my latest set make up. A driver; a 3 wood; a fairway wood with graphite shaft and a hybrid with a steel shaft to be more similiar to my old long irons. 5iron-PW, forged Titleist blades and 3 Vokey Wedges (52, 56 SW and 60 LW). I defy anyone to state that this is not a player's bag, and I have a true single digit handicap. (No vanity handicap--have won my age group and flight in club championships over the years)

I think this is a GREAT game; play whatever the H e LL trips your trigger!!!!

[bjdrivers]

"the pros play on rock hard greens that are dried out and running about 12+ on the stimp."


Uh, Omen, are you smoking Hibachi imported weed? Pros play on rock hard, dried out greens???? hahahaha which pros you talking about, the Hooters tour in arkansas?

The tour plays on the largest, most manicured greens in the world. They run a high stimp because of the undulations and the cut, not because they are rock hard.

And since I can put my 15* hybrid past your driver, I'll leave this thread alone, other than to say that I agree, replacing a long iron with a hybrid is GAY.

[Home-slicer]

I would like to enter this debate but I fell asleep with boredom a third of the way through Omen's long winded discourse.

Sorry!

By God Kiwi, youv'e done it! The long awaited cure fore insomnia has been discovered. If we can get this approved by the FDA we couldzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[edgey]

Ok Omen i will play with this a little

1. I have never made any observation about hybrids hitting high blah blah. I have only ever said that if some one wants to use them and it helps get the small white ball into the small hole in less shots why not.

2. Long irons are unforgiving, simple.

3.Pros play on rock hard greens??!! You are either on drugs or still living in that little fantasy world of yours. The pros play on the most heavily prepared greens in the world. They want to play on some of the shite we play on week in week out.

4. I do shoot in the 70's, some of the time and i dont want to make it any harder than it is already. 1 or 2 strokes is fine when you play mulligans, we dont so they are important.

5. Thanks for allowing us to use a 5 wood over a 2 iron. Jeez your head is so far up Tigers arse we will need to tie rope round your ankles to stop you going all the way up.

6.yes the 3i is harder to than a 4i etc etc. and thats a fact so move on

7.The pros have swing flaws, maybe, and thats with them dedicating their full time work to practice. if they have moved to hybrids with all their practice why shouldnt i.

8. I, like most people have a life and a job and commitments that mean i dont have the time or inclination to practice. If hybrids can help me why not.

9. If you extend your argument to its logical conclusion why dont you use hickory shaft clubs, persimmon headed woods and an old bullseye putter.

10. Omen your logic is, as always flawed. It is flawed because you are a faux, pseud poser. That is why you resort to ga y taunts cuz you dont have the brains or strength of argument to substantiate your position.

It is fine to carry 3i when your taking 5 or 6 mulligans per round so you can shoot 79 or whatever it is you shoot.

Edgey (Exposing Omen as a mulligan taking pseud, faux cheat)

[Not a hacker]

I have gone over my reasoning before but what the hell.

One of things many gaybrid lovers here use is the 'pro's use it' debate (which is hypocritical as those same people dis us for using the 'Tiger uses it' dabate). What is being missed in this argument is that the pros use very specific hybrids that are nothing like the 'gaybrids' limp wristed faggot choppers on this forum praise. I would imagine that the good pros who can hit long irons choose hybrids that are set up with stiff shafts, are workable, and not be very forgiving at all. The main difference for these pros choosing hybrids over long irons would be a lower centre of gravity to get more height on their approach shots. I would hazard a guess that most of the guys on this forum would struggle just as much with a hybrid that the pros play as they would with a long iron.

The forgiveness and ease of strike (for which all gaybrid users rave about) wouldn't enter the thought process of a pro with any ball striking talent whatsoever. A good pro wants precision equipment that does a sepcific thing consitently. The hybrids they use get a higher flight and are better at playing from the rough, but that doesn't mean they are easy to hit. The gay arse gaybrids that most amatuers use would be completely shunned by the majority of tour pros. The only ones who would use them would be choppers who are trying to put a band aid over their shortcomings so they can continue to make half a million a year without ever contending or playing anything that even approaches real golf.

Finally the Tiger argument. The reason Tiger uses long iron blades is twofold IMO. Firstly, he has the strength and talent to get his long irons to perform how he wants them, and for him the long irons offer more options and better results than a hybrid (seems pretty logical to me). Secondly, Tiger is a perfectionist and when his long irons (or any other part of his game)aren't working as well as he would like he treats the source of the problem instead of reaching for the band aids (gaybrids). He will just go out and work on his game til he gets it right.

[iWILLbeatU64]

I disagree with omen's argument about the greens being too firm for long irons...if you watch any event minus the majors the greens are actually quite soft...NaH i watched an interview with tiger and he said the only reason he doesn't have a hybrid in his bag is because he hits them too high he said that as soon as he finds one that flights lower he will put it in the bag.

[Not a hacker]

I disagree with omen's argument about the greens being too firm for long irons...if you watch any event minus the majors the greens are actually quite soft...NaH i watched an interview with tiger and he said the only reason he doesn't have a hybrid in his bag is because he hits them too high he said that as soon as he finds one that flights lower he will put it in the bag.

Interesting comment fromTiger about hybrids. He often puts a 5 wood in the bag and they fligh at least as high as a hybrid. Tiger has also been quoted as saying that he the reason he doesn't have a hybrid is because he already has one old guys club (5 wood) in his bag. Maybe Nike has told him to be nice when commenting on equipment they are trying to push to the masses.

[iWILLbeatU64]

Interesting comment fromTiger about hybrids. He often puts a 5 wood in the bag and they fligh at least as high as a hybrid. Tiger has also been quoted as saying that he the reason he doesn't have a hybrid is because he already has one old guys club (5 wood) in his bag. Maybe Nike has told him to be nice when commenting on equipment they are trying to push to the masses.

Haha good point it's very possible that nike did that...although it doesn't matter besides nike's blades all of their clubs are garbage!

[daveperk]

I have a 16* hybrid, called a 1 iron hybrid by Cleveland, and a 19*, called a 2 iron hybrid. I can hit that one 215 or 195 based on choking down.... so I start the irons at 4.

Logic, deduction, inference and common sense support, therefore, the assertion that anyone who uses a hybrid 4 iron is gay. And if you use a hybrid five iron, it's time to audition for a broadway musical.

dana quigley WOW!!!!

Seriously, a four iron doesn't seem to me like a club that needs replacing with something easier to hit. If a four iron is hard to hit, then all of them are.

[Kiwi Player]

I have a 16* hybrid, called a 1 iron hybrid by Cleveland, and a 19*, called a 2 iron hybrid. I can hit that one 215 or 195 based on choking down.... so I start the irons at 4.

Logic, deduction, inference and common sense support, therefore, the assertion that anyone who uses a hybrid 4 iron is gay. And if you use a hybrid five iron, it's time to audition for a broadway musical.

dana quigley WOW!!!!

Seriously, a four iron doesn't seem to me like a club that needs replacing with something easier to hit. If a four iron is hard to hit, then all of them are.

A good point that you are touching on here Dave is that a hybrid can also be used to replace two clubs e.g. my 19* replaces a 5 wood and 3 iron. Especially with todays strong lofts we need to if we want to carry extra wedges at the other end of the bag.

[MJFGolf]

A good point that you are touching on here Dave is that a hybrid can also be used to replace two clubs e.g. my 19* replaces a 5 wood and 3 iron. Especially with todays strong lofts we need to if we want to carry extra wedges at the other end of the bag.

How many clubs do most of you carry? 14 obviously in tournaments, but for every day play....do you carry more than 14 clubs? I remember my late dad's friend: He used to carry somewhere between 22-24 clubs, when you include multiple woods, a ginty, chippers, utility woods, etc. Just wondered how close everyone stayed to "legal" limits when playing every day golf.

[Kiwi Player]

How many clubs do most of you carry? 14 obviously in tournaments, but for every day play....do you carry more than 14 clubs? I remember my late dad's friend: He used to carry somewhere between 22-24 clubs, when you include multiple woods, a ginty, chippers, utility woods, etc. Just wondered how close everyone stayed to "legal" limits when playing every day golf.

14 or less.

Heck the bag is heavy enough with 14. But most of my rounds are in official competition so I never carry more than 14.

But sometimes in a casual round I might carry as few as 10 just to lighten the load and leave room for a few beers.

[MJFGolf]

"But sometimes in a casual round I might carry as few as 10 just to lighten the load and leave room for a few beers." ----Kiwi

Ahhh, a man who makes IMMINENT sense! But you gotta have a bev wench handy for ice!

[Kiwi Player]

"But sometimes in a casual round I might carry as few as 10 just to lighten the load and leave room for a few beers." ----Kiwi

Ahhh, a man who makes IMMINENT sense! But you gotta have a bev wench handy for ice!

That's a luxury I only enjoy occasionally on special days. When I'm carrying them they start off cold and you just have to drink em quick!

[poe4soul]

So, which hybrids are you specifically referring to that pro's play? Are you proposing that they have a different selection of clubs then what's on market?

And for the record which "limp wristed faggot choppers on this forum" are you referring to? Are they the same "limp wristed faggot choppers" that play regular shafted 10.5 degree drivers?

[Kiwi Player]

What is being missed in this argument is that the pros use very specific hybrids that are nothing like the 'gaybrids' limp wristed faggot choppers on this forum praise.

Which is where you are so full of sh*t NAH because that statement could be applied to every club in the bag. I'm sure Tigers 5 wood is nothing like yours either!

[Not a hacker]

And for the record which "limp wristed faggot choppers on this forum" are you referring to? Are they the same "limp wristed faggot choppers" that play regular shafted 10.5 degree drivers?

The same ones that respond to obvious trolling on my part

[Kiwi Player]

NaH i watched an interview with tiger and he said the only reason he doesn't have a hybrid in his bag is because he hits them too high he said that as soon as he finds one that flights lower he will put it in the bag.

In that same interview didn't he say that the main reason he's never tried the reverse putting grip is that it would be too painful going home and telling his dad Earl that he was GAY. Now that Earl has passed on he said he still wouldn't try it as it would still be tough going home and telling his mom & wife that he is GAY.

[Not a hacker]

Which is where you are so full of sh*t NAH because that statement could be applied to every club in the bag. I'm sure Tigers 5 wood is nothing like yours either!

I would be lucky to get Tigers 5 wood (or any of his clubs for that matter) in the air, I was highlighting that the argument of hybrids being good because the pro's play them is illogical as what you get in the shops is not the same as the pros play (shafts, flex etc). And not all pros have the muscle to be able tell their corporate masters where to stick their hybrids without being out of a contract.

[Not a hacker]

In that same interview didn't he say that the main reason he's never tried the reverse putting grip is that it would be too painful going home and telling his dad Earl that he was GAY. Now that Earl has passed on he said he still wouldn't try it as it would still be tough going home and telling his mom & wife that he is GAY.

Must be tough for Paddy's wife being married to a gay 3 time major champion. Which by the way is one more major than your little piss ant country of sheep fukkers has managed to win in it's entire existence.

[bjdrivers]

Must be tough for Paddy's wife being married to a gay 3 time major champion. Which by the way is one more major than your little piss ant country of sheep fukkers has managed to win in it's entire existence.

Careful NaH, dissing hall of fame legends like Nobilo, Charles, & Campbell isn't a good idea. In fact, God himself said when he retires from Heaven, he's moving to Auckland and shacking up with Peter Jackson!

[Kiwi Player]

Careful NaH, dissing hall of fame legends like Nobilo, Charles, & Campbell isn't a good idea. In fact, God himself said when he retires from Heaven, he's moving to Auckland and shacking up with Peter Jackson!

Surely God has better taste than that.

P.S. Peter Jackson lives in Wellington

[poe4soul]

How about the ones that rise to the counter trolling?

Which hybrids? Come on, you make broad statements. Back them up...

[neverman]

I'm pretty sure the argument about "the pro's use them" only came about as they gained popularity over the years. Originally the nay-sayers used that very same argument in reverse because the pro's didn't use them at the time. I think only a few senior tour players could be spotted back in the day. It's just being thrown back out there now is what I mean, almost a "told ya so" for adults.

I wish like hell I didn't have to carry a hybrid (because it IS gay) but when my swing is off it saves my arse more than I care to admit. It is almost cheating, I call mine "money" as it's won me a ton even while my game is in a funk. I would say it's dropped 3-5 strokes off my handicap alone in the last 2 years. My swing is worse now than it was back then but I'm scoring better.

Hell yeah, I should take it out of my bag right? What are you stupid? I have no problem with how you all perceive me, I took a ration of sh-it from my boys for the 1st few months. I would've done the same... hell I chide myself, it's embarrassing what I have to do to contend.

If/when my game comes back... will I ditch the hybrid and go back to carrying a 2 iron or maybe another wedge? I truely don't know or care. It was money well spent.

[groundhogday]

Must be tough for Paddy's wife being married to a gay 3 time major champion.

Nah
I bet Paddy's gay loving wife is glad he had a hybrid in his bag on the next tolast hole of the British. Did you see the shot he pulled off with with his hybrid on the next oto last hole and then that crosshanded putt. Made me want to put on some lacy panties and handle my hybrid.

[DENNIS7180GOLF]

I have a 16* hybrid, called a 1 iron hybrid by Cleveland, and a 19*, called a 2 iron hybrid. I can hit that one 215 or 195 based on choking down.... so I start the irons at 4.

Logic, deduction, inference and common sense support, therefore, the assertion that anyone who uses a hybrid 4 iron is gay. And if you use a hybrid five iron, it's time to audition for a broadway musical.

dana quigley WOW!!!!

Seriously, a four iron doesn't seem to me like a club that needs replacing with something easier to hit. If a four iron is hard to hit, then all of them are.

i think if you are going to bash 5 hybrid users you should stick to non-pros.i have no idea what you do for a living and i would still take danas job over yours he plays fuking golf for a living dude and has made more $$ than a lot of pro golfers. i would play 13 hybrids if i made that kind of jack doing what all of us on this forum wish we were doing right now !!!!

[pingman360]

omen long irons are harder to hit out of the rough than hybrids... not the other way around...

[poe4soul]

Yah, I hate the new drivers for the same reason. Hitting those three yard drives is like cheating. And the new balls, using them is like cheating. And the square milled grooves in the wedges - cheating. Come to think of it any shaft other than hickory - cheating. On, and on, and on....

What's the point. Either it's legal under the rules or it's not. Everyone has the opportunity to find/use the clubs that work for their swing and style of play.

Omen, NAH, and others that complain about these and other style of clubs sound like a bunch of old women. Waa, waa, waa. Get over it. Play by the rules (which includes using hybrids, long putter, 64* wedges, etc.), count your strokes, and post your scores. It's not how but how many.

[dorkman53]

Anyone whose mind has been changed by reading any of these "debates" should please speak up....


What????


No responses???



Maybe they fell asleep.......

[Omen2]

i disagree... although i've never hit a hybrid out of rough.. hell i've never hit one on a range.

they just scream duffer to me... like edgey they are useless in a pinch, and since i'm not too phucking lazy to get of my as.s and go practice they will never find there way into my bag. Everyone finds reasons NOT to practice.

funny that edgey claims it a great game but bothers not with learning how to do it properly. A+ for being a RETARD

[Omen2]

look here all you pole smoking shaft loving FA.GGOTS, I've never seen any of you self absorbed fat POS choppers ever get any kind of decent results out of your gaybrids. you all show up claim your not caught up in ego's but you carefully discuss your hybrids as if its the greatest thing available. you scoff at those of us still trying to play the game correctly. then on the first tee you proceed to slice your awesome hybrid 30 yards offline and claim that you just need to adjust the weights.

You lethargic co.ck goblins need to quit or practice. long irons are not that damn difficult to hit.

I've never seen anyone with a hybrid hit a quality shot. i've seen dozens of amateurs hit really good shots with blade long irons. You see the simple fact of the matter is this: those of us still swinging long irons and blades aren't concerned with todays score, we only want to get better. the way you get better is you remove the forgiveness and that forces you to make better swings... so sure you may win today but by next year i'll have to spot you 5 just to make it interesting.

Edgey you can talk all the shite you want but in the end you wish you could hit a blade 2 iron, you wish you could break 80 once, you wish you had my game... ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, NOT AS LONG AS YOU KEEP FINDING EXCUSES NOT TO PRACTICE
dont badger me just because you idolize me.

as i've told a many bi.tch before you: GET OFF MY DI.CK.

Omen (still trying to get edgey off his di.ck)

[poe4soul]

Come on squeaky wheel, you dream better than that.

[achimt]

I would like to enter this debate but I fell asleep with boredom a third of the way through Omen's long winded discourse.

Sorry!

I can relate to that. But maybe I will write at least one short comment later,

[edgey]

look here all you pole smoking shaft loving FA.GGOTS, I've never seen any of you self absorbed fat POS choppers ever get any kind of decent results out of your gaybrids. you all show up claim your not caught up in ego's but you carefully discuss your hybrids as if its the greatest thing available. you scoff at those of us still trying to play the game correctly. then on the first tee you proceed to slice your awesome hybrid 30 yards offline and claim that you just need to adjust the weights.

You lethargic co.ck goblins need to quit or practice. long irons are not that damn difficult to hit.

I've never seen anyone with a hybrid hit a quality shot. i've seen dozens of amateurs hit really good shots with blade long irons. You see the simple fact of the matter is this: those of us still swinging long irons and blades aren't concerned with todays score, we only want to get better. the way you get better is you remove the forgiveness and that forces you to make better swings... so sure you may win today but by next year i'll have to spot you 5 just to make it interesting.

Edgey you can talk all the shite you want but in the end you wish you could hit a blade 2 iron, you wish you could break 80 once, you wish you had my game... ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, NOT AS LONG AS YOU KEEP FINDING EXCUSES NOT TO PRACTICE
dont badger me just because you idolize me.

as i've told a many bi.tch before you: GET OFF MY DI.CK.

Omen (still trying to get edgey off his di.ck)

Omen Omen Omen

No one can get onto your dick because of 2 simple reasons

1. Its either in your hand cracking one off 16 strokes at a time, looking at pics of Freddy Mercury thinking of breaking 100 without using mulligans you CHEATING skinny little twot

2. If its not in your hand cracking one off its buried to the hilt in chocolate starfish of the male variety that you have paid for you turdburgling wankmesiter

Edgey (Telling the truth, always honest)

PS Its a great game because i have a proper handicap, better than yours and i dont CHEAT like you. Wind down and prepare for a life of dissapointment

[bjdrivers]

Am I missing something here? I don't see a hybrid in Edgy's sig...

[groundhogday]

I've never seen anyone with a hybrid hit a quality shot. i've seen dozens of amateurs hit really good shots with blade long irons. You see the simple fact of the matter is this: those of us still swinging long irons and blades aren't concerned with todays score, we only want to get better. the way you get better is you remove the forgiveness and that forces you to make better swings... so sure you may win today but by next year i'll have to spot you 5 just to make it interesting.

You are too uptight about this game Figjam(omen). You need to lighten up some. Go put on your best thong get your hair done, and take out your favorite male friend. Don't forget to give up the mangina.

[iWILLbeatU64]

look here all you pole smoking shaft loving FA.GGOTS, I've never seen any of you self absorbed fat POS choppers ever get any kind of decent results out of your gaybrids. you all show up claim your not caught up in ego's but you carefully discuss your hybrids as if its the greatest thing available. you scoff at those of us still trying to play the game correctly. then on the first tee you proceed to slice your awesome hybrid 30 yards offline and claim that you just need to adjust the weights.

You lethargic co.ck goblins need to quit or practice. long irons are not that damn difficult to hit.

I've never seen anyone with a hybrid hit a quality shot. i've seen dozens of amateurs hit really good shots with blade long irons. You see the simple fact of the matter is this: those of us still swinging long irons and blades aren't concerned with todays score, we only want to get better. the way you get better is you remove the forgiveness and that forces you to make better swings... so sure you may win today but by next year i'll have to spot you 5 just to make it interesting.

Edgey you can talk all the shite you want but in the end you wish you could hit a blade 2 iron, you wish you could break 80 once, you wish you had my game... ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, NOT AS LONG AS YOU KEEP FINDING EXCUSES NOT TO PRACTICE
dont badger me just because you idolize me.

as i've told a many bi.tch before you: GET OFF MY DI.CK.

Omen (still trying to get edgey off his di.ck)

Omen are you seriously that upset i Guarantee you that I will hit my hybrid in the fairway more than your 2 iron...and yes I have blades in my bag now but I still choose the hybrid one is because it goes just alittle bit further than your two and it's easier to hit and in turn flat out more accurate...i can hit a 2 iron if i choose to do so but i don't because it's not worth the effort when i can get more distance from the hybrid and it's much easier to hit...you need to chill out and get with the times!

[bladeduffer]

You lethargic co.ck goblins need to quit or practice. long irons are not that damn difficult to hit.

Omen's right. In these days of player CBs and more forgiving blades, I think we can classify this argument that long irons are difficult to use as myth. I've hit my older, early '80s 2 and 3i vs. the ones out of my current 690.MB set and newer set does show a slight but discernable edge in forgiveness.

I've known golfers that have played the game alot longer than I have who seemed amazed that I carry a 2i. Oddly enough, most of them will say that they've never really hit a 2i or bothered to practice with one.


bd

[iWILLbeatU64]

Omen's right. In these days of player CBs and more forgiving blades, I think we can classify this argument that long irons are difficult to use as myth. I've hit my older, early '80s 2 and 3i vs. the ones out of my current 690.MB set and newer set does show a slight but discernable edge in forgiveness.

I've known golfers that have played the game alot longer than I have who seemed amazed that I carry a 2i. Oddly enough, most of them will say that they've never really hit a 2i or bothered to practice with one.


bd

haha that's a joke anybody that doesn't have a handicap under 5 shouldn't even conside a 2i probably not even a 3i sure your new ones maybe easier to hit but they still are pretty hard to hit a hybrid is flat out easier to hit than a 2 iron and i'm a +1 saying that...

[edgey]

Am I missing something here? I don't see a hybrid in Edgy's sig...

Hi BJ

The interesting thing is i have been hitting long irons recently cuz i fight an occasional hook which i do find hybrids can accentuate.

However today i went out without my 3 and4 iron and 5 wood and took one of the new TM Tour rescue 19* Stiff. Cracking piece of kit. Saved me 3 clubs in one.

I will change my set up details

That is why i am anti Omen. He is so closed minded. Golf is constantly evolving and developing and i will too

More important i dont tell people what is best, just try it and see.

Edgey

[Omen2]

you should also replace that impossible to hit 5i and 6i, and then while your at it why dont you get that sex change you've always dreamed of?

good luck qu.eer

Omen,

[Golf King]

you should also replace that impossible to hit 5i and 6i, and then while your at it why dont you get that sex change you've always dreamed of?

good luck qu.eer

Omen,

i totally agree with what your saying
ive used a hybrid in the past and it just doesnt feel as good as a pured 2i


GK

[bladeduffer]

haha that's a joke anybody that doesn't have a handicap under 5 shouldn't even conside a 2i probably not even a 3i sure your new ones maybe easier to hit but they still are pretty hard to hit a hybrid is flat out easier to hit than a 2 iron and i'm a +1 saying that...

A joke? Really? Have you actually practiced with a 2 or 3i? Or, did you limit your experience to a few shots?


bd

[neverman]

A joke? Really? Have you actually practiced with a 2 or 3i? Or, did you limit your experience to a few shots?


bd

You'd score better with a gap wedge than that 2iron. I mean seriously, how often do you hit that thing? If you use it at all (not off the tee) how many of those times you use it does the shot come off for you? I doubt you're knocking down pins with it. And if you're using it often you must really suck off the tee.

Something to think about besides your ego for a change eh?

[iWILLbeatU64]

A joke? Really? Have you actually practiced with a 2 or 3i? Or, did you limit your experience to a few shots?


bd

actually i have an x-18 pro series 2 iron in my garage and if you look at my sig i have a muscleback 3 iron so i dunno what you're debating about now, i had a 2 iron in my bag when i was younger i'm alittle older and alittle wiser now i hit something that is alittle forgiving!

[bladeduffer]

You'd score better with a gap wedge than that 2iron. I mean seriously, how often do you hit that thing? If you use it at all (not off the tee) how many of those times you use it does the shot come off for you? I doubt you're knocking down pins with it. And if you're using it often you must really suck off the tee.

A) Adding a gap wedge before the end of the year. B) I don't hit it that often. C) I get the shot I'm looking for about 70-80% of the time. D) Doubt away E) See B and my drives average 270-280.

Something to think about besides your ego for a change, eh?

How about you thinking, if for just this thread, that perhaps this isn't about ego, eh?

Seriously? It's about choice.


bd

[bladeduffer]

actually i have an x-18 pro series 2 iron in my garage and if you look at my sig i have a muscleback 3 iron so i dunno what you're debating about now, i had a 2 iron in my bag when i was younger i'm alittle older and alittle wiser now i hit something that is alittle forgiving!

Great. Good for you.

So, how often do you pull that 3i out?



bd

[mcgeepeterj]

My apologies to the group, new to the site, how do I post my own question? Thank you.

[pingman360]

My apologies to the group, new to the site, how do I post my own question? Thank you.

you need to click the new thread button on the where all the threads are...

[12sandwich]

A FEW YEARS BACK I WAS WATCHING A SHELL GOLF CLASSIC, ARNIE PALMER WAS PLAYING I THINK GARY PLAYER, IN THE LATE 90s ARNIE ON A BAD DAY COULD BEAT ANY OF US AT AGE 70 AND HIS SWING WAS UGLY! HE MUST OF BEEN TOYING WITH HYBRIDS CAUSE HE TAKES ONE OUT OF HIS BAG, AND HITS IT 290 YARDS, STRAIGHT FROM A DIFFICULT LIE, SMILING AND SAYS I HIT THAT PRETTY GOOD. NO ARGUING WITH ARNIES ARMY, HYBRIDS ARE HERE!

[iWILLbeatU64]

Great. Good for you.

So, how often do you pull that 3i out?



bd

uh...well whenever the yardage calls for it, i can hit it just fine...

[Omen2]

why does one need both a sand wedge and a gap wedge?

i mean if you are hitting to a wedge yardage why not just pick one wedge yardage and always hit to it? instead of just hitting to a few different ones?

more wedges does not equal lower scores. and i hit my 2i off tees and on par 5's and short par 4's more often than i hit my 55* wedge ever.

i rarely hate the results that i get with my 2i, i can play a lovely fade with it that goes for about 225-230. i seriously doubt anyone on here (maybe 64) is better with their hybrid than i am with my 2. Its not that much harder to hit the 2 than the 4.... i think most people just convince themselves that the long irons are impossible and that the hybrid is that much easier. A lot of it i attribute to the manufacturers trying to keep a steady turnover of clubs so new and innovative is the answer and they convince most that they cant hit the long irons and that the hybrid is the only logical answer....

just my opinion

omen

[pingman360]

why does one need both a sand wedge and a gap wedge?

i mean if you are hitting to a wedge yardage why not just pick one wedge yardage and always hit to it? instead of just hitting to a few different ones?

more wedges does not equal lower scores. and i hit my 2i off tees and on par 5's and short par 4's more often than i hit my 55* wedge ever.

i rarely hate the results that i get with my 2i, i can play a lovely fade with it that goes for about 225-230. i seriously doubt anyone on here (maybe 64) is better with their hybrid than i am with my 2. Its not that much harder to hit the 2 than the 4.... i think most people just convince themselves that the long irons are impossible and that the hybrid is that much easier. A lot of it i attribute to the manufacturers trying to keep a steady turnover of clubs so new and innovative is the answer and they convince most that they cant hit the long irons and that the hybrid is the only logical answer....

just my opinion

omen

just how much weed do you smoke daily... you shot a freakin 92... i can promise you that there are better players of a 2i or 2h on this forum than you...

[Kiwi Player]

just how much weed do you smoke daily... you shot a freakin 92... i can promise you that there are better players of a 2i or 2h on this forum than you...

No PM you're wrong. It was definitely a freakin 93.

[daveperk]

i think if you are going to bash 5 hybrid users you should stick to non-pros.i have no idea what you do for a living and i would still take danas job over yours he plays fuking golf for a living dude and has made more $$ than a lot of pro golfers. i would play 13 hybrids if i made that kind of jack doing what all of us on this forum wish we were doing right now !!!!

Interesting that out of all the gaybrid gaybashing that has gone on here over the months and years, Dennis the Menace comes to his feet with outrage written all over his keyboard over my little unassuming, slightly ironic and lovable post. :-)

Dude, a little thorazine might be in order. We're all having fun here. My point was (and gawd I hate to have to EXPLAIN this stuff) that I already play two hybrids, therefore I am arbitrarily drawing the 'gay line' just outside of my OWN bag. Just to keep myself manly while so many here are obviously gay.

It's a feckin' joke, laddie.. grow a sense of humor, dude. If I had trouble with the four and five irons I'd add two more hybrids in half a heartbeat. I just don't, at least not yet. But this fat 48 year old is on his way to a bag of Hibore irons, believe you me. I'm putting off that kind of thing as long as possible.

[Home-slicer]

, therefore I am arbitrarily drawing the 'gay line' just outside of my OWN bag. Just to keep myself manly while so many here are obviously gay.

Dave. As usual, your efforts are noted and appreciated. You do good work here.
I think your philosophy really levels the playing field. "Everyones' clubs are gay but mine"
I mean, even the most vocal purists here have chinks in their Tommy armour. Omen has a faggoty Scotty Cameron and NaH has a whippy r-flex 10.5 degree driver!
It's just like I learned in grade school. "If you are different than me, I will point and laugh at you!"

[daveperk]

even the most vocal purists here have chinks in their Tommy armour.

Speaking of good work.. this is understated, masterful stuff. :-)

Dennis probably won't get it.

[pingman360]

No PM you're wrong. It was definitely a freakin 93.

my bad i guess i shoulda done some research and gotten it right... lol...

[Omen2]

again i say this, tiger has shot mid 80 rounds: we all have bad days. so are there people on here that are better than him? didnt think so.
... of course i dont have 14 majors to vouche for my better rounds, but they will come.

Omen, and noone on this forum hits a real 2i better than i do (maybe 64 does) but no one else

[daveperk]

haha that's a joke anybody that doesn't have a handicap under 5 shouldn't even conside a 2i probably not even a 3i sure your new ones maybe easier to hit but they still are pretty hard to hit a hybrid is flat out easier to hit than a 2 iron and i'm a +1 saying that...

I carried a one iron back in my high school and college days, Staff Tour Blade matched my set, 1-pw... and even in my late 30's, carrying an 8 cap, I hit two iron off the tee with my old Ping Zings and could carry it 225 high and straight.. I have moved over to long iron hybrids because I like their consistency and ballflight.. not that I couldn't hit the big irons but once I tried the hybrids I sort of lost interest in them.. and now the current iron sets don't sell the 2 and some don't sell the 3... it's just progress.

marketing.

change. and hope.

[Omen2]

Dave. As usual, your efforts are noted and appreciated. You do good work here.
I think your philosophy really levels the playing field. "Everyones' clubs are gay but OMEN'S"
I mean, even the most vocal purists here have chinks in their Tommy armour. Except Omen everyones bag has some gayness like NaH has a whippy r-flex 10.5 degree driver!
It's just like I learned in grade school. "If you are different than me, I will point and laugh at you!"

I have to agree with you here home slice, my bag is the epitome of Manly golf.

Omen, finally getting the respect he so aptly deserves.

[edgey]

again i say this, tiger has shot mid 80 rounds: we all have bad days. so are there people on here that are better than him? didnt think so.
... of course i dont have 14 majors to vouche for my better rounds, but they will come.

Omen, and noone on this forum hits a real 2i better than i do (maybe 64 does) but no one else

Omen Omen Omen

This little post is one of your finest yet

You are obviously the only man on this forum better than Tiger........in your own deluded, strange little world. Why not just come straight out with it, tosser.

14 majors, i doubt you have ever won 14 games against your mate, tosser.

I suspect you are probably right about no one hitting a REAL 2 iron better than you..........................hang on though it cant be true because:-

You are a faux, pseud, lying, turdburgling little wankmeister who i very much doubt even owns a real 2 iron, let alone hits one, be it good bad or indifferent.

Come out of the closet and just own up, you have an Adams Idea OS 2 iron replacement. Confession is good for the soul, tosspot

Edgey (Shite, but honest)

[daveperk]

Omen Omen Omen

Come out of the closet and just own up, you have an Adams Idea OS 2 iron replacement. Confession is good for the soul, tosspot

Edgey (Shite, but honest)

University of Woolomooloo faculty wing Rule # 2, NO POUFTERS.

Rule #3, there will be no NOT drinking after lights out.

Rule #4, NO POUFTERS

Rule #5, there is no rule #5.

Rule #6 NO POUFTERS.

[edgey]

University of Woolomooloo faculty wing Rule # 2, NO POUFTERS.

Rule #3, there will be no NOT drinking after lights out.

Rule #4, NO POUFTERS

Rule #5, there is no rule #5.

Rule #6 NO POUFTERS.

Dave

Dont start me on monty python quotes/sketches this thread could get out of hand ;-)

Do the Americans get Monty Python or is it a little surreal (i appreciate you are a travelled man so may have a better insight into British humour)

For Omen

"He's not the messiah, he a naughty little boy, now f*uck off"

Edgey

Edgey

[groundhogday]

I prefer Wallace and Grommitt, Althought the part with the knight in the forest in the holey grail was excellant

[dorkman53]

Because of a hard core cadre of hybrid bashers on GR, this board continues to be several years behind the times. Other golf boards had these discussions YEARS AGO, and the concensus is "live and let live; what works for you is fine and what works for me is fine."
Unfortunately, we have some bull headed troller/flamers on this board who (for whatever psychiatrically disturbed reason) insist on keeping this "debate" alive. This issue is absolutely dead on every respectable golf board. The hybrids are played by whoever wants to play them, and the 2 and 3 irons are played by whoever wants to play them. The macho chest pounding bravado seen on this board is absolutely absurd, and WAY passe.
Find another source of material, Omen. You continue to bore most of us with your acne age sexual identity insecurities.

Try getting this concept through your obviously thick skull. You are NOT defending the purity or integrity of golf by these posts. You ARE showing what an immature and insecure little punk you are. Then again, you could be just a figment in the imagination of some of the multi-personality perpetual trollers on this board......

[poe4soul]

DMan, Post number 4999!

[edgey]

Because of a hard core cadre of hybrid bashers on GR, this board continues to be several years behind the times. Other golf boards had these discussions YEARS AGO, and the concensus is "live and let live; what works for you is fine and what works for me is fine."
Unfortunately, we have some bull headed troller/flamers on this board who (for whatever psychiatrically disturbed reason) insist on keeping this "debate" alive. This issue is absolutely dead on every respectable golf board. The hybrids are played by whoever wants to play them, and the 2 and 3 irons are played by whoever wants to play them. The macho chest pounding bravado seen on this board is absolutely absurd, and WAY passe.
Find another source of material, Omen. You continue to bore most of us with your acne age sexual identity insecurities.

Try getting this concept through your obviously thick skull. You are NOT defending the purity or integrity of golf by these posts. You ARE showing what an immature and insecure little punk you are. Then again, you could be just a figment in the imagination of some of the multi-personality perpetual trollers on this board......

Dorkman

I think you have said in the most professional and intelligent way, what i have been saying in a more childish, vulgar and inappropriate way on and off for some time.

I respect you and the way you communicate.

I fear that Omen will pay little attention and i will continue, rightly or wrongly challenging him in my own way. I apologise in advance if i offend anyone in the process, but i can no longer stand by and not challenge some of his pompous tosh.

Regards

Edgey

[groundhogday]

D-man you are correct this game is meant to be enjoyed and what ever stick you play have fun and enjoy a cold one while playing, omen grow up

[Kiwi Player]

Because of a hard core cadre of hybrid bashers on GR, this board continues to be several years behind the times. Other golf boards had these discussions YEARS AGO, and the concensus is "live and let live; what works for you is fine and what works for me is fine."
Unfortunately, we have some bull headed troller/flamers on this board who (for whatever psychiatrically disturbed reason) insist on keeping this "debate" alive. This issue is absolutely dead on every respectable golf board. The hybrids are played by whoever wants to play them, and the 2 and 3 irons are played by whoever wants to play them. The macho chest pounding bravado seen on this board is absolutely absurd, and WAY passe.
Find another source of material, Omen. You continue to bore most of us with your acne age sexual identity insecurities.

Try getting this concept through your obviously thick skull. You are NOT defending the purity or integrity of golf by these posts. You ARE showing what an immature and insecure little punk you are. Then again, you could be just a figment in the imagination of some of the multi-personality perpetual trollers on this board......

Dorkman I think you should lighten up a little. After all our 'hard core cadre of hybrid bashers' is dwindling badly and by my count there's only two left these days isn't there? They are becoming a rare breed and like all rare breeds nearing extinction we should protect and preserve Omen and Not a Hacker as a reminder and monument to what the world used to be like. They'll be gone soon enough so let's treasure them while they're still around!

[Omen2]

dorkman,
I am only saying that playing a hybrid is the mark of a chopper, a guy who readily admits he cares not to practice, this is definitely comensurate with what entails a chopper.

i didnt say you couldnt play one, merly that i would not, nor care not.

in all seriousness have your or the other two RETARDS not read the one serious thread, in which i very explicitly let everyone know the person behind Omens', honest opinions on everything,
If more of you were fully engaged you would know the true me. Since you choose not to consider everything before posting, i feel no need to explain myself again.

if you come near i shall taunt you again.

I derive sweet satisfaction knowing that on this anonymous forum i have all of you decrepit old buzzards in an uproar. the fact that you can be led so easily into such poppycock is extremely amusing. So much so that each day after i tuck my kids into bed i anxiously jump onto the forum to see how much my antics have disrupted your lives.

Omen, still causing old geezers to reach for their oxygen.

p.s. dont forget your nitro pills

[groundhogday]

Omen, still causing old geezers to reach for their oxygen.

Omen your proper quote should be still tying to oxygenate old timer by blowing on there man straw.

If more of you were fully engaged you would know the true me. Since you choose not to consider everything before posting, i feel no need to explain myself again.

A two iron carrying clost hybridsexual

[Omen2]

okay that was the gayest thing ever? a closet hybridexual? why not try hybridnecromancerphilliac?

dude, you really need to act your age.

Omen, still more mature than all the 50 year olds on this site.

[edgey]

okay that was the gayest thing ever? a closet hybridexual? why not try hybridnecromancerphilliac?

dude, you really need to act your age.

Omen, still more mature than all the 50 year olds on this site.

Omen Ome Omen

You are without doubt the biggest cockjockey i have ever heard.

I dont post because you bother me, i post because i enjoy showing you up for the posing, lying, faux, pseud you are.

There are no depths to which you will not plummet to in order that you avoid having to answer any serious questions.

You are a 18 (and thats an American handicap) chopper (your term, not mine) who claims to be able to pure a 2i. That my friend makes you a fu*cking lier

If you can pure a 2i you would be a single figure handicapper not an 18 hacker. As such you are a faux, pseud, fantasist, lying, scumbag, Walter Mitty, Dreamer.

Since you have already abused your Mizunos you can now take your pretend 2i into wherever you sneak off too and crack another one off, 16 strokes at a time whilst fantasising about hitting it more than the 150 yards you really could hit it

Now off you go wankmeister and jizz up on your imaginary 2i

Edgey (Telling it as it is)

PS Dont forget your pics of Freddy, just in case the 2i aint enough to get off on, you fu*cking daydreaming tosser

[daveperk]

"He's not the messiah, he a naughty little boy, now f*uck off"

Edgey

Edgey

we get MP, edgey, very much... it was first imported here on "Pubic Television", which is what I call our taxpayer financed government television network, and also what I call YOUR taxpayer financed telly network. ;-)

(the name is actually Public Television, just to be clear)

I was watching it regularly by 1975, when I was still in high school.. went to all the movies when they were released here..

My fave scene?

Brian to adoring crowd - "You're all different!"

Crowd - (simultaneous) "we're all different!"

Brian, frustrated- "You're all individuals!"

Crowd, still simultaneous - "We're all individuals!"

one guy in crowd then pipes up, "I'm not!"

heh. Bloody Romans.

[dorkman53]

in all seriousness have your or the other two RETARDS not read the one serious thread, in which i very explicitly let everyone know the person behind Omens', honest opinions on everything,
If more of you were fully engaged you would know the true me. Since you choose not to consider everything before posting, i feel no need to explain myself again.

if you come near i shall taunt you again.

I derive sweet satisfaction knowing that on this anonymous forum i have all of you decrepit old buzzards in an uproar. the fact that you can be led so easily into such poppycock is extremely amusing. So much so that each day after i tuck my kids into bed i anxiously jump onto the forum to see how much my antics have disrupted your lives.

Omen, still causing old geezers to reach for their oxygen.

p.s. dont forget your nitro pills

Yes....yes.......We can all unanimously state that we admire your scintillating wit, brilliance, maturity, and all agree that you are an exemplary human being. There is no higher calling in life than to be a pathetic troll on an obscure golf board. Your mother must be nearly as proud of you as you are.......


By being "fully engaged" I assume that you mean that you expect people to actually read all of the verbose drivel with which you shower this board so generously......

[bjdrivers]

The Lady of the Lake,
her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur
from the bosom of the water, signifying by Divine Providence that I,
Arthur, was to carry Excalibur.
That is why I am your king!

[bjdrivers]

Bravely bold Sir Omen, rode forth from South Carolina.
He was not afraid to die, o Brave Sir Omen.
He was not at all afraid to be killed in nasty ways.
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Omen!

He was not in the least bit scared to be mashed
into a pulp,
Or to have his eyes gouged out, and his elbows broken.
To have his kneecaps split, and his body burned away,
And his limbs all hacked and mangled, brave Sir Omen!

His head smashed in and his heart cut out,
And his liver removed and his bowels unplugged,
And his nostrils ripped and his bottom burned off,
And his penis--

[poe4soul]

Drunk already BJ?

[dorkman53]

Drunk already BJ?

I think he's doing a parody from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, or its latest version, Spamalot, with reference to Omen's continued headlong rush into swords, staves, granades, and any other weapon easily within the reach of his countless detractors.....

[bjdrivers]

I think he's doing a parody from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, or its latest version, Spamalot, with reference to Omen's continued headlong rush into swords, staves, granades, and any other weapon easily within the reach of his countless detractors.....

Thanks for clearing that up DM

One of the funniest movies of all time, you should check it out poe.

[dorkman53]

Thanks for clearing that up DM

One of the funniest movies of all time, you should check it out poe.

I've seen the movie, and we also saw Spamalot on Broadway on a trip to NYC.

http://www.montypythonsspamalot.com/

[daveperk]

Yes....yes.......We can all unanimously state that we admire your scintillating wit, brilliance, maturity, and all agree that you are an exemplary human being. There is no higher calling in life than to be a pathetic troll on an obscure golf board. Your mother must be nearly as proud of you as you are.......


By being "fully engaged" I assume that you mean that you expect people to actually read all of the verbose drivel with which you shower this board so generously......

D-man, this observer suspects you have joined the battle on the English side... are you a genuine traitor to course and country then? Are you an English Pig Dog?

I fart in your general direction sir... your mother was a caddie and your father was a washroom attendant at Hackberry Creek CC!

Take your king and your boxes of tea and set sail, sir, before we here in the colonies lose our TEMPERS! Go and join your bad-toothed unathletic bald headed English friends, and beware the many poufters 'over there'!

you have been warned... :-))

[bjdrivers]

D-man, this observer suspects you have joined the battle on the English side... are you a genuine traitor to course and country then? Are you an English Pig Dog?

I fart in your general direction sir... your mother was a caddie and your father was a washroom attendant at Hackberry Creek CC!

Take your king and your boxes of tea and set sail, sir, before we here in the colonies lose our TEMPERS! Go and join your bad-toothed unathletic bald headed English friends, and beware the many poufters 'over there'!

you have been warned... :-))

He's French!! Why do you think he has that outrageous accent you silly Dave!

[daveperk]

Bravely bold Sir Omen, rode forth from South Carolina.
He was not afraid to die, o Brave Sir Omen.
He was not at all afraid to be killed in nasty ways.
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Omen!

He was not in the least bit scared to be mashed
into a pulp,
Or to have his eyes gouged out, and his elbows broken.
To have his kneecaps split, and his body burned away,
And his limbs all hacked and mangled, brave Sir Omen!

His head smashed in and his heart cut out,
And his liver removed and his bowels unplugged,
And his nostrils ripped and his bottom burned off,
And his penis--

Jetez la vache! JETEZ LA VACHE!!!

ptoing....

[poe4soul]

The opening scene of Life of Brian was a classic. "Blessed are the cheese makers."

[poe4soul]

Seen the movie many times. It was good but doesn't hold up to Life of Brian.

"Bring out your dead" would be more in line with this post - "but I'm not dead yet."

[poe4soul]

Or Better yet MP's Aurgument Clinic

There's no way to win this argument but here we are again.

[Not a hacker]

My fave scene?

Brian to adoring crowd - "You're all different!"

Crowd - (simultaneous) "we're all different!"

Brian, frustrated- "You're all individuals!"

Crowd, still simultaneous - "We're all individuals!"

one guy in crowd then pipes up, "I'm not!"

heh. Bloody Romans.

All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us?

[Not a hacker]

The Lady of the Lake,
her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur
from the bosom of the water, signifying by Divine Providence that I,
Arthur, was to carry Excalibur.
That is why I am your king!

Strange women, lyin in ponds, distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power comes from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony.
You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!!
I mean, if I went 'round, saying I was an emperor, just because some moistened bink had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

My all time fave Monty Python movie.

[Home-slicer]

University of Woolomooloo faculty wing Rule # 2, NO POUFTERS.

Rule #3, there will be no NOT drinking after lights out.

Rule #4, NO POUFTERS

Rule #5, there is no rule #5.

Rule #6 NO POUFTERS.

This is the Wattle, the emblem of our land
You can stick it in a bottle, or you can hold it in your hand. A-MEN!