blades vs. CB's

[Omen2]

i bet KP wishes he was man enough to use real golf clubs.. .

those offset oversized chopper paddles have done their job... hit that ball way phucking left...

Omen

[Not a hacker]

But if KP had real clubs in the bag he'd be out at a local muni chopping it up on the days he's not making minimum wage stacking shelves or pumping gas.

[SoonerBS]

i bet KP wishes he was man enough to use real golf clubs.. .

those offset oversized chopper paddles have done their job... hit that ball way phucking left...

Omen

It's not the clubs as much as it is the sorry ass swing he has . . . . . . that's really hard for me to watch.

[NiftyNiblick]

I don't really think that enough non-cavity blades are in play to warrant a discussion. The world's best player uses them to his detriment--sort of like a self-imposed handicap--and I used them well before he was born and before there was a choice. But now? They're somewhat of an anachronism, aren't they?

[dorkman53]

Two questions: Who had a lower score overall for The Masters, Tiger or KP?

Second question; Which blades are played by Angel Cabrera? Care to share your extensive knowledge with us, Omen?

[dorkman53]

I don't really think that enough non-cavity blades are in play to warrant a discussion. The world's best player uses them to his detriment--sort of like a self-imposed handicap--and I used them well before he was born and before there was a choice. But now? They're somewhat of an anachronism, aren't they?

Actually, I think the blades actually help Tiger. He can really work the ball, even with today's low spin balls. However, for the other 99% of people who play blades to attempt to emulate Tiger, but lack Tiger's skill set...........

[Pky6471]

before U guys talk shììte about KP, how many LOCAL golf tourneys that U have won, let alone REGIONAL tourneys... So lets talk about how shittty that we all play first... If we can't beat them then give them credits

[Omen2]

no argueing that a chopper one the masters... his reliance on forgiveness is what had him stymied behind that tree....

now if a real golfer had been in the middle of the fairway the thing would have ended on the first playoff hole.

KP's a chopper, angel's a chopper, and chad campbell's a chopper... hell phil mickelson has more majors than all three of those hacks combined...

BLADES BI.TCHES: choppers get minimum major vitories...

Omen, preaching the truth every sunday.

[dorkman53]

no argueing that a chopper one the masters... his reliance on forgiveness is what had him stymied behind that tree....

now if a real golfer had been in the middle of the fairway the thing would have ended on the first playoff hole.

KP's a chopper, angel's a chopper, and chad campbell's a chopper... hell phil mickelson has more majors than all three of those hacks combined...

BLADES BI.TCHES: choppers get minimum major vitories...

Omen, preaching the truth every sunday.

Would have "one the masters." (sic) Just a wild guess, but I think you meant to say that he "won The Masters." However, maybe that is giving you too much credit, because (minus the 2nd grade mistake) that would have at least shown some degree of rational thought. You probably meant something else, or perhaps were trying to speak in an unknown language.

Your genius shines through again.......

(next comes the final, desperate defense from the functionally illiterate; the "word Nazi" accusation.)

[bjdrivers]

i think "perry nazi" suits you better dman...

i firmly agree with omen. campbell is an exquisite ball striker, he should lose those adams paddles and get some GFF. he would have birdied the playoff hole & would be wearing the jacket right now. hell i could have hit that green with a damn 8 iron.

hopefully KP has learned his lesson to do what he does best, and stay away from strong fields & majors. he's not cut out for it. blades & the fade will always be the superior club & shot shape.

[MylesHSG]

to be honest Kerry Perry would destroy you all so stop beating the guy up.

[bjdrivers]

comparing kp to any of us is a poor argument. kp couldn't do my job any better than i could do his. if i have a chance to do something really great at my work, but i fail miserably (aka choke), i would expect people to zing me for it as i deserve it.

this is kp's job & career. unfortunately for him, it is exposed for everyone to see. when he chokes, we have every right to beat him up for it.

tour pros do this for a living. they either practice or play EVERY DAY. considering i play once a week if i'm lucky & rarely ever practice, i would hope he would beat me.

[jamesll9]

When I try my best and screw up, I get grace from my circle of friends and family.If you get zinged when you "fail miserably", BJ, I feel sorry for you.

[poe4soul]

I would love to bring home the coin he made this last weekend.

BJ, do you think your in the top ten best at what you do in the nation? How about the world? Kenny was the second best in a tournament that anyone who is somebody in golf got invited. Not the Master but runner up. That's still pretty good. Are you second best at what you do in this world? I doubt it and this is something you do everyday. What gives? (BTW - trolling on GR doesn't count and I still don't think you would be 2nd best even at that.)

Again not a big fan of KP but I also give credit where credit is due. I get your arguments but they don't hold water. The "best," Tiger, is off his game and so was many of the top contenders. KP, over the last year, has been in contention or won many events.

As for his swing goes, it's ugly but last time I checked there wasn't scores for style in golf. There aren't any pictures or videos submitted on/with the card for judging, just the number of strokes.

[bjdrivers]

probably not, because there are about 50,000x as many network admins in the world as their are professional golfers, so i have a lot more competition than perry does.

as far as trolling on golf forums poe, you rank next to last, right in front of dorkman.

and unlike perry, i won't have that nagging "what could have been" feeling in the pit of my stomach for the rest of my life.

[Not a hacker]

Hey Poe,

To say someone is the second best in the world because they got lucky and finished runner up in a snobby little invitation is a bit of a stretch. The Masters is not a real world championship event as it is restricted to invitations only and has a small field. And half of the field is taken up by chopper has beens who won it 30 years ago and haven't done squat since. I think that's the real reason Perry even decided to enter the event. He was browsing through the field and saw names like Mize, Player, Lyle etc and thought it would be another cake walk against a weak field.

Now if Perry came through qualifying and finished runner up in the US Open or the Open, then you you could say something, as they are real majors open to every golfer on the planet, with the only pre-requisite being talent, not winning some piss ant invitation back in 1965 and getting invited back for life. But when it comes to real Opens we all saw where Kenny stands last year didn't we.

[SoonerBS]

You are truly one of the stupidest people on the face of the earth.
Of course, they allow former winners to play long after their prime, but that is only a relatively small minority of the actual field.
Why do you think the players were invited?
Good haircuts? Flashy blades in their bags? Photogenic smiles?
They are invited because they are the top golfers in the world, Einstein.......

Please name me a few of the top players who WEREN'T at The Masters because they weren't invited.

Charley Hoffman who has been playing damn well this year and we all know he is the heir apparent to John Daly. He should have been there. 'Nuff said.

[dorkman53]

Hey Poe,

To say someone is the second best in the world because they got lucky and finished runner up in a snobby little invitation is a bit of a stretch. The Masters is not a real world championship event as it is restricted to invitations only and has a small field. And half of the field is taken up by chopper has beens who won it 30 years ago and haven't done squat since. I think that's the real reason Perry even decided to enter the event. He was browsing through the field and saw names like Mize, Player, Lyle etc and thought it would be another cake walk against a weak field.

Now if Perry came through qualifying and finished runner up in the US Open or the Open, then you you could say something, as they are real majors open to every golfer on the planet, with the only pre-requisite being talent, not winning some piss ant invitation back in 1965 and getting invited back for life. But when it comes to real Opens we all saw where Kenny stands last year didn't we.

You are truly one of the stupidest people on the face of the earth.
Of course, they allow former winners to play long after their prime, and a few top amateurs, but that is only a relatively small minority of the actual field.
Why do you think the players were invited?
Good haircuts? Flashy blades in their bags? Photogenic smiles?
They are invited because they are the top golfers in the world, Einstein.......

[SoonerBS]

The damn forum is flipping up again . . . . .

[dorkman53]

Charley Hoffman who has been playing damn well this year and we all know he is the heir apparent to John Daly. He should have been there. 'Nuff said.

I like Charley Hoffman. He is a fine player and fun to watch. Has he won in 2009? No.
What is his current world ranking?
http://www.officialworldgolfranking....ld&PageCount=1
http://www.officialworldgolfranking....ld&PageCount=2

Hint; don't look for him in the top 50......

[MylesHSG]

Guys to be honest I would be pretty pleased with myself for getting second place in a major, even if i had a chance to win. If you had offered Perry second place this time last week he would have taken it.

On the whole 'the masters is not a real major debate' just ask any pro golfer what major they would like to win most. Some with say The Open, but the vast majority would say The Masters. Nuff Said!

[NiftyNiblick]

'the masters is not a real major debate'

The Masters is a real major only because the players themselves revere it for some reason. To me, Augusta is just a little hideaway for the wealthier sons of the confederacy. I don't like anything about it, but I understand why many would.

It's not for any major championship, that's for sure. It's not for either the open or amateur championships of either the R&A or the USGA, and it's not for the championship of the PGA, or even the PGA Tour, the championship of which is not (nor should it be) a major.

But if we're going to call the Masters a major, which apparently we must, we shouldn't kick tradition in the teeth by NO LONGER calling the R&A and USGA Amateur championships majors. They were majors first.

If you include them, Tiger is one major closer to Jack than if you don't. He won three USGA Amateurs to Jack's two.

Also, nobody has ever won all SIX majors. Tiger and Jack never won R&A Amateur titles as Bobby Jones did.

[MylesHSG]

The Masters is a real major only because the players themselves revere it for some reason. To me, Augusta is just a little hideaway for the wealthier sons of the confederacy. I don't like anything about it, but I understand why many would.

It's not for any major championship, that's for sure. It's not for either the open or amateur championships of either the R&A or the USGA, and it's not for the championship of the PGA, or even the PGA Tour, the championship of which is not (nor should it be) a major.

But if we're going to call the Masters a major, which apparently we must, we shouldn't kick tradition in the teeth by NO LONGER calling the R&A and USGA Amateur championships majors. They were majors first.

If you include them, Tiger is one major closer to Jack than if you don't. He won three USGA Amateurs to Jack's two.

Also, nobody has ever won all SIX majors. Tiger and Jack never won R&A Amateur titles as Bobby Jones did.

i agree totally!!!

[Not a hacker]

You are truly one of the stupidest people on the face of the earth.
Of course, they allow former winners to play long after their prime, and a few top amateurs, but that is only a relatively small minority of the actual field.
Why do you think the players were invited?
Good haircuts? Flashy blades in their bags? Photogenic smiles?
They are invited because they are the top golfers in the world, Einstein.......

Did I hit a nerve DM?

The truth, when stripped of all the BS, is sometimes pretty hard to take isn't it? Especially for PC do-gooders like yourself.

The fact is the Masters is a major only because Arnie and his journo mate decided it was over a few drinks. As Nifty has pointed out, it is not affiliated with any ruling or professional body like the other three, and as we all know it's origins were a snobby invitation invented by a professional golfer and his rich redneck mates back in the 30's.

The Masters is a made for television spectacle that is as much about money as it is tradition. All the 'tradition' they crap on about during Nantz's sugary pieces are inventions of the organisers. The green jacket, the champions dinner, the perfectly manicured course, the coloured water in the creeks. They're all things that Augusta have been shamelessly promoting to death since the iception, and as such have slowly seeped into folklore to the point they have become self perpetuating and people actually believe it. It's compelling viewing and has great drama for sure, but to compare it with the history and tradition of a true Open is a bit much. To call the Masters a major golf championship is akin to calling professional wrestling real sport.

And it is certainly not the most prestigious or sought after tournament as some here claim. Outside the multitude of redneck southern bible thumping US pro's, or social climbing wanna be snobs like Norman, I'd say there wouldn't be a player in the world that wouldn't take an Open ahead of a masters if they could only win one major. I'd say that the majority of US players would choose the US Open ahead of teh Masters, and the rest of the world would choose the Open. Tiger and Jack have been quoted as saying their highest achievement in golf was winning the Open at St Andrews. Even Moobs used to say before he won any majors that the one he really wanted was the US Open. The Opens don't need green jackets, or champions dinners, or ultra exclusive champions locker rooms, or par 3 tournaments, or lifetime exemptions. They are simply golfing championships, where the winner is crowned the champion golfer. The Open presentation "The champion player of the season" says it all. Noting else needs to be said.

[dorkman53]

Did I hit a nerve DM?

The truth, when stripped of all the BS, is sometimes pretty hard to take isn't it? Especially for PC do-gooders like yourself.

The fact is the Masters is a major only because Arnie and his journo mate decided it was over a few drinks. As Nifty has pointed out, it is not affiliated with any ruling or professional body like the other three, and as we all know it's origins were a snobby invitation invented by a professional golfer and his rich redneck mates back in the 30's.

The Masters is a made for television spectacle that is as much about money as it is tradition. All the 'tradition' they crap on about during Nantz's sugary pieces are inventions of the organisers. The green jacket, the champions dinner, the perfectly manicured course, the coloured water in the creeks. They're all things that Augusta have been shamelessly promoting to death since the iception, and as such have slowly seeped into folklore to the point they have become self perpetuating and people actually believe it. It's compelling viewing and has great drama for sure, but to compare it with the history and tradition of a true Open is a bit much. To call the Masters a major golf championship is akin to calling professional wrestling real sport.

And it is certainly not the most prestigious or sought after tournament as some here claim. Outside the multitude of redneck southern bible thumping US pro's, or social climbing wanna be snobs like Norman, I'd say there wouldn't be a player in the world that wouldn't take an Open ahead of a masters if they could only win one major. I'd say that the majority of US players would choose the US Open ahead of teh Masters, and the rest of the world would choose the Open. Tiger and Jack have been quoted as saying their highest achievement in golf was winning the Open at St Andrews. Even Moobs used to say before he won any majors that the one he really wanted was the US Open. The Opens don't need green jackets, or champions dinners, or ultra exclusive champions locker rooms, or par 3 tournaments, or lifetime exemptions. They are simply golfing championships, where the winner is crowned the champion golfer. The Open presentation "The champion player of the season" says it all. Noting else needs to be said.

No, you didn't hit a nerve. I am just amazed at your stupidity and complete lack of the ability to reason from cause to effect.

[Kiwi Player]

Did I hit a nerve DM?

The truth, when stripped of all the BS, is sometimes pretty hard to take isn't it? Especially for PC do-gooders like yourself.

The fact is the Masters is a major only because Arnie and his journo mate decided it was over a few drinks. As Nifty has pointed out, it is not affiliated with any ruling or professional body like the other three, and as we all know it's origins were a snobby invitation invented by a professional golfer and his rich redneck mates back in the 30's.

The Masters is a made for television spectacle that is as much about money as it is tradition. All the 'tradition' they crap on about during Nantz's sugary pieces are inventions of the organisers. The green jacket, the champions dinner, the perfectly manicured course, the coloured water in the creeks. They're all things that Augusta have been shamelessly promoting to death since the iception, and as such have slowly seeped into folklore to the point they have become self perpetuating and people actually believe it. It's compelling viewing and has great drama for sure, but to compare it with the history and tradition of a true Open is a bit much. To call the Masters a major golf championship is akin to calling professional wrestling real sport.

And it is certainly not the most prestigious or sought after tournament as some here claim. Outside the multitude of redneck southern bible thumping US pro's, or social climbing wanna be snobs like Norman, I'd say there wouldn't be a player in the world that wouldn't take an Open ahead of a masters if they could only win one major. I'd say that the majority of US players would choose the US Open ahead of teh Masters, and the rest of the world would choose the Open. Tiger and Jack have been quoted as saying their highest achievement in golf was winning the Open at St Andrews. Even Moobs used to say before he won any majors that the one he really wanted was the US Open. The Opens don't need green jackets, or champions dinners, or ultra exclusive champions locker rooms, or par 3 tournaments, or lifetime exemptions. They are simply golfing championships, where the winner is crowned the champion golfer. The Open presentation "The champion player of the season" says it all. Noting else needs to be said.

All very interesting NAH but the fact is it is 'deemed' a Major and the best players in the world turn up there trying to win it. You can belittle it all you like with all those interesting facts but it is still a golf major that EVERY player on the PGA Tour would give their left testicle to win.

I'm sure if Tiger won his 19th Major to break Jacks record there we wouldn't hear him moaning that he 'wished' he could have broken Jacks record at an 'Open' event rather than the Masters.

[oldplayer]

NAH's analysis is not without merit. A lot of the tradition and exclusivness of the Masters is contrived, albiet a little while ago. And the club itself has a history of misguided elitism and is in some regards a relic of bygone social norms. Their long held stance on female members, and past attitudes to black Americans is not necessarily a model to be held up as exemplary.
Sure being an exclusive tournament with a best in the world field does make it an enviable achievment to win a green jacket. But I agree it should not be held in the same regard as the British or American Opens.

[Omen2]

completely agree. although their stance on women isn't as enforced as you may think it is. KP was in the field after all...

DORKMAN,
I wrote "one" because that chopper Anhel didnt WIN anything. He just chopped less than the other guys and when you consider that tree nonsense, that's some hardcore chopping.

Noone WON the masters this year, some paddle loving chopper was handed it.

Omen, i dont use words loosely like you.

[dorkman53]

completely agree. although their stance on women isn't as enforced as you may think it is. KP was in the field after all...

DORKMAN,
I wrote "one" because that chopper Anhel didnt WIN anything. He just chopped less than the other guys and when you consider that tree nonsense, that's some hardcore chopping.

Noone WON the masters this year, some paddle loving chopper was handed it.

Omen, i dont use words loosely like you.

Your last post speaks for itself. No criticism on my part is necessary.

[NiftyNiblick]

Noone WON the masters this year, some paddle loving chopper was handed it.

Noone didn't win the Masters. Noone fronted Herman's Hermits back in the late 1960s.

[Not a hacker]

Noone didn't win the Masters. Noone fronted Herman's Hermits back in the late 1960s.

What an underrated band they were. My missus has the greatest hits CD and it's amazing how many great songs they did.

[jamesll9]

The Masters was a major long before Arnie won it. I watched an old I Love Lucy in which Jimmy Demaret was a guest. They made a bid deal about him being a 3 time Masters Winner. It sure meant a lot to Hogan & Snead back when they were playing.

For those of you who think the field isn't strong enough, which great player got denied a chance to play this year?

[choeborn]

Looking to buy a new set of irons and my handicapp is about 14. I always played with cb and i can't really work the ball with them. You guys think blades the way to go for me?
also my club speed is about 114 so you guys recommend xs or just stiff?

[ripit35]

why do tiger and phil spray their driver all over the course? I guess if their drivers had the pea sized sweet spot of a blade, they'd be center cut every time, at least that is my understanding. oh btw, do either of them play GFF? you can't say their blades have the most consistency either

[Guru2]

Don't spend much time on GR anymore.Just check the threads out once in a while.The Peter Noone reference made me think of that old Hermans Hermits song.....not Mrs. Brown you have a horny daughter,not Henry the VIII.....something tells I'll flame on golf review.It goes something like this.............................................. ..........................................
Woke up this morning feelin fine .................................................. ........................
Woke up this mornin' with sumthin on my mind.............................................. .........
Last night I bought some blades at the big box store............................................. ..
Yeah I'm a bit of a golf club Hore.............................................. ................................
Something tells me I'll flame on Golf Review............................................ ...................
(Something tells me I'll flame on golf review)........................................... ....................


There the kinda clubs I won't bring back.............................................. .........................
Made for a PLAYA like me ..not a hack.............................................. ..........................
I'm gonna play ...then play some more.............................................. .......................
Maybe one day I'm gonna break 84................................................ ..........................
(Maybe one day I'm gonna break 84)............................................... .......................


I took those sticks for a round or two............................................... ....................
Decided to discuss them on golf review............................................ .....................
Here I was braggin bout my blades............................................ ...........................
Some chopper says he likes KR's Taylormades....................................... ........
Something tells me I'll flame on golf review............................................ ................
(Something tells me I'll flame on Golf review)........................................... ................

If you hack scramble or chop don't talk to me................................................ .......
I consider myself better than most.. can't you see............................................... ..
The smallest most unforgiving 2 iron....thats for me...............................................
Something tells me I'll flame on golf review............................................ .................
(something tells me I'll flame on golf review)

[Mward2002]

By default, I would go ahead and say you probably need to be in an extra stiff set of shafts. However every manufacturer have different degrees of stiff, so it'd be in your best interest to go get fitted for the shaft that works best for you.

[The Purist]

Looking to buy a new set of irons and my handicapp is about 14. I always played with cb and i can't really work the ball with them. You guys think blades the way to go for me?
also my club speed is about 114 so you guys recommend xs or just stiff?

I have a question for the non-Americans:

Since basically every other country in the world uses the metric system, Do you get your swing speeds measured in kph? If choeborn is not from America, which Im going to go out on limb and guess is the case, then would his club speed really be 71mph. He may need senior flex.

[donbren]

even most tour players play cb so this is a mute ? now days

[Kiwi Player]

I have a question for the non-Americans:

Since basically every other country in the world uses the metric system, Do you get your swing speeds measured in kph? If choeborn is not from America, which Im going to go out on limb and guess is the case, then would his club speed really be 71mph. He may need senior flex.

Even though we use the metric system most LM would measure in both systems.

When I was playing tennis we used to have a gun that measured our serving speeds. From an ego point of view I much preferred the number in kph - LOL.

[Omen2]

mute? or moot?

yeah the problem with tiger and phil's driver is that they are always trying to hit it 330 yards. which is about 100 percent and perfect contact. it doesn't happen very often and so they miss some fairways.

[Larryrsf]

i bet KP wishes he was man enough to use real golf clubs.. .

those offset oversized chopper paddles have done their job... hit that ball way phucking left...

Omen

I played yesterday and broke 80 on a championship course-- hit several of the greens from 170-190 out-- using my Callaway BB graphite shafts. There is NO DIFFERENCE in accuracy between blades and OS cavity back heads and NO DIFFERENCE in accuracy between steel shafts and modern graphite. The only difference is that you get 10-20 mroe yards with graphite for the same swing effort.

My playing partner shot 70 (3 under on the front and even on the back) using Taylormade irons-- OS Cavity back heads like Hale Irwin plays (and won $20 MILLION on the Champion's Tour with).

Would be fun to stand on a driving range side-by-side with anyone who thinks there is a difference--and throw $20 in to see who can hit 20 balls closest to a target 180 yards out.

Larry

[Horseballs]

Larry, you'd be hitting driver from 180. I'd take your bet in a heartbeat.

[donbren]

I played yesterday and broke 80 on a championship course-- hit several of the greens from 170-190 out-- using my Callaway BB graphite shafts. There is NO DIFFERENCE in accuracy between blades and OS cavity back heads and NO DIFFERENCE in accuracy between steel shafts and modern graphite. The only difference is that you get 10-20 mroe yards with graphite for the same swing effort.

My playing partner shot 70 (3 under on the front and even on the back) using Taylormade irons-- OS Cavity back heads like Hale Irwin plays (and won $20 MILLION on the Champion's Tour with).

Would be fun to stand on a driving range side-by-side with anyone who thinks there is a difference--and throw $20 in to see who can hit 20 balls closest to a target 180 yards out.

Larry

yes there is a difference cbs have thinner faces so the ball comes off faster with less spin but becasue of the thin face toe and heel strikes are far less penalyzing just like their big brothers the drivers
yes i do agree with the shafts though

[Not a hacker]

The Masters was a major long before Arnie won it. I watched an old I Love Lucy in which Jimmy Demaret was a guest. They made a bid deal about him being a 3 time Masters Winner. It sure meant a lot to Hogan & Snead back when they were playing.

For those of you who think the field isn't strong enough, which great player got denied a chance to play this year?

I've argued that the Masters is nothing more than a cliqueie invitational event on other fronts, but if you wnat to agrue it's standing as a major based on the quality of field answer me this: When was the last time you saw JD hitting off at Augusta? You wanna talk great players not making the field, they don't come much greater. Charlie Hoffman was another noteable ommission from this years event.

[dorkman53]

I've argued that the Masters is nothing more than a cliqueie invitational event on other fronts, but if you wnat to agrue it's standing as a major based on the quality of field answer me this: When was the last time you saw JD hitting off at Augusta? You wanna talk great players not making the field, they don't come much greater. Charlie Hoffman was another noteable ommission from this years event.

Is this post "deja vu all over again?"Try going back to post #17 on this thread, by Sooner BS.

Also check post #20 on this thread......

[Not a hacker]

Is this post "deja vu all over again?"Try going back to post #17 on this thread, by Sooner BS.

Also check post #20 on this thread......

I was specifically responding to James post DM (and since when it is against the rules of GR to regurgitate old chestnuts adnauseum?)

Funnily enough I was playing on Sunday with a guy who actually said "It's like deja vu, all over again" without trying to be funny. He had missed a few putts in the same way he had done the day before. The guy in mention is a good guy but not the sharpest knife in the drawer and did not realise his witticism.

[dorkman53]

I was specifically responding to purists post DM (and since when it is against the rules of GR to regurgitate old chestnuts adnauseum?)

Funnily enough I was playing on Sunday with a guy who actually said "It's like deja vu, all over again" without trying to be funny. He had missed a few putts in the same way he had done the day before. The guy in mention is a good guy but not the sharpest knife in the drawer and did not realise his witticism.

Yeah....it's sort of like "The Department of Redundancy Department."