Ryan Moore and Scratch Golf

[dorkman53]

Ryan Moore has signed a rather unique deal with Scratch Golf. They don't "pay to play" like most of the larger companies. But they have different sort of agreement with him, which could prove mutually beneficial. He will play their products in exchange for a partial ownership stake in the company. He was at the Shanghai tournament this past weekend, and made a good showing. He apparently likes the grunge look for his clothes, but one can't criticize his budding skills. He's only in his mid-20's.

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The British announcers at the WGC seemed puzzled about his "Scratch" emblem on his golf hat. They were speculating that it might stand for "San Francisco Giants."

By the way, they now make soft cast wedges that are completely price competitive with anybody else out there. $99/wedge, and you still can choose the sole grind. Sadly, they haven't offered me a part ownership in the company to occasionally mention them on GR.....

[Horseballs]

I saw that. I heard something about him having his own line of clothing as well. I think he looks like a homeless guy.
He's one of those guys I find myself rooting against. That swing is just terrible.

[noshuz]

I was wondering if anyone was gong to bring him up. He's got a Jim Furyk swing and wears deck shoes???

[edgey]

Hi

I have a problem with Mr Moore

I like his f uck you attitude towards the big golf manufacturers, sort of appeals to my anti-authoritarian streak, BUT i find him almost devoid of any personality.

I am hoping he will show me some spunk, for the want of a better phrase

Edgey

[dorkman53]

Hi

I have a problem with Mr Moore

I like his f uck you attitude towards the big golf manufacturers, sort of appeals to anti-authoritarian streak, BUT i find him almost devoid of any personality.

I am hoping he will show me some spunk, for the want of a better phrase

Edgey

Yeah, he looked like he got his clothes from the Salvation Army, and seemed to be perpeutally unhappy with whatever he did, though he actually played quite well.

A smile now and then goes a long way to endearing oneself to one's fan base. It has worked wonders for my popularity on the PGA Tour, too.......

[SoonerBS]

Hi

I have a problem with Mr Moore

I like his f uck you attitude towards the big golf manufacturers, sort of appeals to anti-authoritarian streak, BUT i find him almost devoid of any personality.

I am hoping he will show me some spunk, for the want of a better phrase

Edgey

I agree with this, Edgey. The main thing I DID find to like about the kid was his attitude towards the big golf manufacturers and his intent to play whatever equipment he wanted to play. Now, I have no reason to like him at all.

[edgey]

Yeah, he looked like he got his clothes from the Salvation Army, and seemed to be perpeutally unhappy with whatever he did, though he actually played quite well.

A smile now and then goes a long way to endearing oneself to one's fan base. It has worked wonders for my popularity on the PGA Tour, too.......

I agree, he does look like a bit of a pikey hobo

Edgey

[Donald Jackson]

I agree, he does look like a bit of a pikey hobo

Edgey

He looks like he smokes herb but isn't that an illegal substance on the pga tour? or do they not test for pot?

[noshuz]

He looks like he smokes herb but isn't that an illegal substance on the pga tour? or do they not test for pot?

It's only illegal if he inhales......

[Donald Jackson]

It's only illegal if he inhales......

i think he is a laid back dude that doesn't really fit the stereotypical tour player but you can tell he gets nervous when the camera is on him, not big on confidence, maybe that's why he grows out the beard to hide behind. Nice classic reverse C, the guy had one of the great amatuer seasons. Needs to watch his weight in those unflattering clothes.

[bigpun1974]

This is pretty interesting considering he is in this month's GD and states that he likes being able to play the any equipment that he so desires. Good for him. I think that he would have been a force on tour earlier in his career if he had not hurt his wrist.

[oldplayer]

Not pretty to watch but he obviously has a lot of natural ability. Anyone who is a good ballstriker with that swing has to be talented. That crouch and posture at address is the ugliest set-up I have ever seen from a pro golfer.

[noshuz]

Not pretty to watch but he obviously has a lot of natural ability. Anyone who is a good ballstriker with that swing has to be talented. That crouch and posture at address is the ugliest set-up I have ever seen from a pro golfer.

He has a very wide stance and seems to be hitting very much off of his back foot with his driver.....Man listen to us! LOL! I think any of us kill to shoot scores like him yet we pick these guys apart like the armchair quarterbacks that we are.......All of us of course except f.uckindouchbag....er, that is famousdb....whatever the hell his name is....

[Donald Jackson]

Ryan Moore has signed a rather unique deal with Scratch Golf. They don't "pay to play" like most of the larger companies. But they have different sort of agreement with him, which could prove mutually beneficial. He will play their products in exchange for a partial ownership stake in the company. He was at the Shanghai tournament this past weekend, and made a good showing. He apparently likes the grunge look for his clothes, but one can't criticize his budding skills. He's only in his mid-20's.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aRIxaicLk0ow
http://scratchgolf.com/


The British announcers at the WGC seemed puzzled about his "Scratch" emblem on his golf hat. They were speculating that it might stand for "San Francisco Giants."

By the way, they now make soft cast wedges that are completely price competitive with anybody else out there. $99/wedge, and you still can choose the sole grind. Sadly, they haven't offered me a part ownership in the company to occasionally mention them on GR.....

The clubs are over $1000 for a set. pretty steep, in this economy, Ryan would have to pull off a major to make any news here.

[dorkman53]

The clubs are over $1000 for a set. pretty steep, in this economy, Ryan would have to pull off a major to make any news here.

But where else can you choose your sole grind, shaft, and grip, and at the same time get great feeling forgings? They offer premium products, and get a premium price. Not for everyone, but it's nice to have options.

I'll probably play mine for at least 2-3 years, just like I'm playing my Epon driver for a long time. If you're a club ho that finally finds something that really works, it actually saves money in the long run, vs. continuing to try this driver and that set of irons, only to get something new a year later.

[Not a hacker]

Didn't this guy have the best amatuer year ever a few years back, even better than Tiger's years?

I see he's playing the SB1s, they look pretty sweet.

I wouldn't right this decision off as a bad move either. Back in the 90's Norman made a similar deal with Cobra, and made millions a few years later when he sold his stock. If this kid can win a major he will make more from his deal than if they were paying him. But it doesn't always work out if you don't perform, as Norman and Baddely found out with Macgregor.

[rooboy]

One thing with his attire, the wife was watching the tourney in china( she had no choice) and she wanted to know how long converse had being making golf shoes!!! Now i don't know if its the clothing or the player thats got her interest. Maybe his clothing choice will attract some of the younger kids to the game.

[famousdavis]

Ryan Moore has signed a rather unique deal with Scratch Golf. They don't "pay to play" like most of the larger companies. But they have different sort of agreement with him, which could prove mutually beneficial. He will play their products in exchange for a partial ownership stake in the company. He was at the Shanghai tournament this past weekend, and made a good showing. He apparently likes the grunge look for his clothes, but one can't criticize his budding skills. He's only in his mid-20's.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aRIxaicLk0ow
http://scratchgolf.com/


The British announcers at the WGC seemed puzzled about his "Scratch" emblem on his golf hat. They were speculating that it might stand for "San Francisco Giants."

By the way, they now make soft cast wedges that are completely price competitive with anybody else out there. $99/wedge, and you still can choose the sole grind. Sadly, they haven't offered me a part ownership in the company to occasionally mention them on GR.....

I'm going to see if the Scratch rep will hook me up with a free set. I normally get free sets all the time because of my iron skills. A young company like this could use a guy like me for good advertising. I'm thinking that they could pay me to play 5 days a week, kind of like a regular job only I'm playing golf. I would be decked out in Scratch golf clothing and Scratch golf gear and so naturally my playing partners might ask me something like "pardon me, sir, but I couldn't help noticing that you are wearing clothing that says Scratch Golf and that you are playing clubs of the same name. You are probably the best iron player I've ever seen so could you tell me a bit about these clubs?". I would respond by saying "you sir, have probably never been more correct in your life. I am a great iron player. I can get you a set of these for $999 and those are friend prices. Mr. Scratch set me up with these fine clubs and by golly they are the best I've tried. I tell you what, if you'll buy me a pint or two after our round I'll take you over to the range and take a gander at your swing. If it fits what I deem to be a player's swing, I'd be glad to set you up with a complete set (and I do mean 14 clubs) of Scratch clubs. You'll be one of the few who own them but 20 years from now you'll be telling your friends that you knew Scratch golf would be big and that you were an early believer". The only concern I have is that I'm not too keen on doing the skateboarder look like Ryan Moore. I'm thinking that the TC Chin look might be coming back.

[lorenzoinoc]

Not pretty to watch but he obviously has a lot of natural ability. Anyone who is a good ballstriker with that swing has to be talented. That crouch and posture at address is the ugliest set-up I have ever seen from a pro golfer.

What's interesting is his father is a golf pro and his swing coach and I've read his reasoning for Ryan's swing and why it's sound. It would take alot of guts (or something else) to encourage or even tolerate that move in your own kid that has that much talent.

We'll see if it stands up under pressure. I also wonder, now that his swing is in the spotlight, whether the vomiting by observers will plant doubt in his mind.

[Not a hacker]

What's interesting is his father is a golf pro and his swing coach and I've read his reasoning for Ryan's swing and why it's sound. It would take alot of guts (or something else) to encourage or even tolerate that move in your own kid that has that much talent.

We'll see if it stands up under pressure. I also wonder, now that his swing is in the spotlight, whether the vomiting by observers will plant doubt in his mind.

Sounds alot like Furyk and his dad, who was also his swing coach and went out of his way to make sure that Jim's swing wasn't 'fixed' by any college swing coaches.

Rooboy, I thought the shoes actually looked more like Colorados but I can see the Converse similarity.

[steviestuboy]

Ryan Moore has signed a rather unique deal with Scratch Golf. They don't "pay to play" like most of the larger companies. But they have different sort of agreement with him, which could prove mutually beneficial. He will play their products in exchange for a partial ownership stake in the company. He was at the Shanghai tournament this past weekend, and made a good showing. He apparently likes the grunge look for his clothes, but one can't criticize his budding skills. He's only in his mid-20's.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aRIxaicLk0ow
http://scratchgolf.com/


The British announcers at the WGC seemed puzzled about his "Scratch" emblem on his golf hat. They were speculating that it might stand for "San Francisco Giants."

By the way, they now make soft cast wedges that are completely price competitive with anybody else out there. $99/wedge, and you still can choose the sole grind. Sadly, they haven't offered me a part ownership in the company to occasionally mention them on GR.....

Ryan Moore is pi.ss, and so is your patter, no one care's.

[Mizuno>Ping]

I'm going to see if the Scratch rep will hook me up with a free set. I normally get free sets all the time because of my iron skills. A young company like this could use a guy like me for good advertising. I'm thinking that they could pay me to play 5 days a week, kind of like a regular job only I'm playing golf. I would be decked out in Scratch golf clothing and Scratch golf gear and so naturally my playing partners might ask me something like "pardon me, sir, but I couldn't help noticing that you are wearing clothing that says Scratch Golf and that you are playing clubs of the same name. You are probably the best iron player I've ever seen so could you tell me a bit about these clubs?". I would respond by saying "you sir, have probably never been more correct in your life. I am a great iron player."

I would gladly school your anus before you finish, you pompous twat.

Do you know how to endure rough sex?

[famousdavis]

I would gladly school your anus before you finish, you pompous twat.

Do you know how to endure rough sex?

I see you wasted a great deal of money in order to have all the newest equipment. As Fred Sanford would say..."Dummy!".

[daveperkins]

Ryan Moore was the first one to wear that stupid shaped ballcap that looks like an old 'train engineer' hat from the 1960's.. the worst one was the first I saw him with, when he was leading the Nelson here in Dallas... it has the horizontal stripes all the way around it.. I kept expecting him to shout "choo choo" and pretend to pull the train whistle cord...

but his move, now THAT actually HELPED me.. he really clarifies the 'drop into the slot' visual.. I actually improved my swing after seeing him hit drivers at Nelson... I had always taken the club back a hair too far inside and my path at impact was scary unstable... since I saw Moore I have got the takeaway path better and the impact path more inside out.. it FEELS like I"m imitating Moore's goofy looking takeaway but when I see it on vid I"m just swinging on one plane like I should..

so, kudoes to Moore, stupid hats and all..

[Donald Jackson]

[QUOTE=Not a hacker]Didn't this guy have the best amatuer year ever a few years back, even better than Tiger's years?

He won all the major amatuer events in 1 calender year. U.S. Amateur, the Western Amateur, the U.S. Amateur Public Links and the NCAA individual championship in 2004

[poe4soul]

Furyk, Moore, KP, etc. all show that at some point you have to stop the analysis and concentrate on scoring. The other point you hear over and over is impact position. The rest of the swing could be crap but if can get to a reasonable impact position then you've won half the battle.

[daveperkins]

Furyk, Moore, KP, etc. all show that at some point you have to stop the analysis and concentrate on scoring. The other point you hear over and over is impact position. The rest of the swing could be crap but if can get to a reasonable impact position then you've won half the battle.

Yep.. Arnold, Trevino, Furyk, Miller Barber, Thorpe, etc etc etc all sorts of ways to take it back and deliver it to the rear of the ball... it's repeatability, not beauty...

But KP, in all fairness, has a back problem and is FORCED to take it back that way.. :-)

[Kiwi Player]

Furyk, Moore, KP, etc. all show that at some point you have to stop the analysis and concentrate on scoring. The other point you hear over and over is impact position. The rest of the swing could be crap but if can get to a reasonable impact position then you've won half the battle.

Yeah that's true but as you have pointed out Furyk leaks power all over the place. If we stopped analysing our swings we could probably all become shorter hitters, find more fairways, and score better through better chipping and putting. I see a lot of older guys that play that way. They just bunt the ball off the tee with the driver. Knock it up close or on with a fairway wood or hybrid (where I'm hitting say driver, 7-8 iron) and score through good chipping and putting. We might score better but in the long run it wouldn't be as much fun playing that way.

[poe4soul]

Thus the "at some point" statement. Many of us over analyze our swing(s). I know there are times when I'm on the course trying to "fix" my swing when I should be playing with the swing I brought that day. I'm not justifying the mentioned tour players poor mechanics but they serve as an example that there are more ways than one to play well. My swing is starting to get to the point that I need to start trusting it an concentrate on scoring. Having the perfect swing doesn't put the ball in the hole. (Now that I've put that in writing I'm sure the golf gods will turn me into a shankapotamous for the next few months.)

[Kiwi Player]

Thus the "at some point" statement. Many of us over analyze our swing(s). I know there are times when I'm on the course trying to "fix" my swing when I should be playing with the swing I brought that day. I'm not justifying the mentioned tour players poor mechanics but they serve as an example that there are more ways than one to play well. My swing is starting to get to the point that I need to start trusting it an concentrate on scoring. Having the perfect swing doesn't put the ball in the hole. (Now that I've put that in writing I'm sure the golf gods will turn me into a shankapotamous for the next few months.)

LOL. My swing is almost cyclical, like the economy going through peaks and troughs. I go through periods of hitting it great and periods where I have no idea what I am doing and can't find the fairway off the tee or nail a single solid approach shot. If my short game is on my scores aren't that bad but it is frustrating.

[bjdrivers]

the sad part is, this punk could mop the damn floor with anyone on this board.

[Not a hacker]

the sad part is, this punk could mop the damn floor with anyone on this board.

Maybe Larry can tell us if he could give us five a side and still take our money. Apparently Pavin could do that, playing graphite shafted irons no less. But Ryan Moore is no Corey Pavin.

[Not a hacker]

Thus the "at some point" statement. Many of us over analyze our swing(s). I know there are times when I'm on the course trying to "fix" my swing when I should be playing with the swing I brought that day. I'm not justifying the mentioned tour players poor mechanics but they serve as an example that there are more ways than one to play well. My swing is starting to get to the point that I need to start trusting it an concentrate on scoring. Having the perfect swing doesn't put the ball in the hole. (Now that I've put that in writing I'm sure the golf gods will turn me into a shankapotamous for the next few months.)

As someone who has lost all confidence when standing over the ball I can concur with this. The practice swings feel perfect, then something comes over me when a ball is in fornt of me. Hopefully my practice session yesterday has exorcised the demons. I found my pre shot routine really helped empty the mind of negative thoughts and just focus on the swing. The bad part is that I've put the massive Nick O'Hern like waggle back into the pre shot routine, so I look like a spaz. For some reason when I'm standing over the ball I'm not ready to pull the trigger until I've done the almost full backswing to the top waggle. I tried to get it out of the routine a few times and my swing suffered. I just have top face the facts that my pre shot routine is fukking ugly, but if it produces a good result I'll put up with it.

[Mizuno>Ping]

I see you wasted a great deal of money in order to have all the newest equipment. As Fred Sanford would say..."Dummy!".

Nah I got them for free. The pro likes me.

As your mother would say :"You son of a (female dog)!"

The new equipment works hand-in-hand with my PERFECT SWING. I am now the GREATEST iron there ever lived.

[Horseballs]

the sad part is, this punk could mop the damn floor with anyone on this board.

No question about it. Doesn't change the fact that he looks like a pudgy emo hobo with a jacked up swing.

[famousdavis]

Nah I got them for free. The pro likes me.

As your mother would say :"You son of a (female dog)!"

The new equipment works hand-in-hand with my PERFECT SWING. I am now the GREATEST iron there ever lived.

Yes, you are the greatest iron that ever lived. Good one.

[bjdrivers]

Maybe Larry can tell us if he could give us five a side and still take our money. Apparently Pavin could do that, playing graphite shafted irons no less. But Ryan Moore is no Corey Pavin.

nor is he hale irwin. if moore put senior flex graphites in those scratch blades he most certainly would give you 5 a side and destroy you.

[daveperkins]

No question about it. Doesn't change the fact that he looks like a pudgy emo hobo with a jacked up swing.

emo hobo.. sounds like a country song in the making..

[BrianMcG]

Ben Hogan needs to come out of his grave and go punch Ryan Moore right in the dcik. He dresses like a phukcing bum. If I was paired with him in a pro-am I would give him $100 and tell him to buy a new hat and a decent pair of shoes.



Now here are some guys that can dress.

[dorkman53]

Ben Hogan needs to come out of his grave and go punch Ryan Moore right in the dcik. He dresses like a phukcing bum. If I was paired with him in a pro-am I would give him $100 and tell him to buy a new hat and a decent pair of shoes.



Now here are some guys that can dress.

I've heard that Camilo Villegas knows how to dress. WOW!!

[BURNDOG]

dress standards is a big talking point at my club at the minute. i was reading in a golfing magazine the other week about how the european tour are trying to enforce measures to make players shave, and also wear all polo shirts tucked in. im not so sure about the shaving but i agree with the tucked in thing, i think dresscode is a big part of our games heritage. why let it slip. there is an event over here in england called the Trilby Tour, there is a pro event and a amateur event, where the players all get dressed up in funky clothes sporting trilbys, its good to watch. the likes of simon dyson and graham storm play in it. even though graham storm was the only one not to wear a trilby, he was surrounded by guys looking totally retro cool and he was sporting a Taylor Made cap, cock

[daveperkins]

dress standards is a big talking point at my club at the minute. i was reading in a golfing magazine the other week about how the european tour are trying to enforce measures to make players shave, and also wear all polo shirts tucked in. im not so sure about the shaving but i agree with the tucked in thing, i think dresscode is a big part of our games heritage. why let it slip. there is an event over here in england called the Trilby Tour, there is a pro event and a amateur event, where the players all get dressed up in funky clothes sporting trilbys, its good to watch. the likes of simon dyson and graham storm play in it. even though graham storm was the only one not to wear a trilby, he was surrounded by guys looking totally retro cool and he was sporting a Taylor Made cap, cock

"If you're blue and you don't know where to go to

why don't you go where fashion sits..

puttin on the ritz... "

why don't they have a top hat and tails tour?

[bob_f52]

I live in Seattle and am a big fan of Ryan Moore, who is from Puyallup. His pop operates a very nice public course near Frederickson called "the Classic," that I'm always happy to play. I'm glad he's playing with a set of irons and wedges he believes in. Even early on, there has been a big improvement in his iron and wedge play using the Scratch Golf equipment and you can see how he's been more competitive since switching 4 or 5 tournaments ago. I think it is true that young people today are more authentic than their elders and he is a good example. He dresses in a way that reflects youth, independence, and new way. I mean, c'mon, like, he's 26 and has made over $6 million in his short career, but he needs to look like an ol' fart from the G&CC? Until this year, Moore played with Ping irons and woods. Of course, Ping makes good equipment, but most of the top players on tour are using forged wedges and irons. Moore ended the year strongly since the switch, and I think a LOT of good and knowledgeable players noticed and will be buying customized Scratch Golf soft carbon steel irons/wedges, before they purchase the off the shelf big manufacturer stuff. Like I say, I'm a big Ryan Moore fan. Hope he has an even better '10.

[dorkman53]

I live in Seattle and am a big fan of Ryan Moore, who is from Puyallup. His pop operates a very nice public course near Frederickson called "the Classic," that I'm always happy to play. I'm glad he's playing with a set of irons and wedges he believes in. Even early on, there has been a big improvement in his iron and wedge play using the Scratch Golf equipment and you can see how he's been more competitive since switching 4 or 5 tournaments ago. I think it is true that young people today are more authentic than their elders and he is a good example. He dresses in a way that reflects youth, independence, and new way. I mean, c'mon, like, he's 26 and has made over $6 million in his short career, but he needs to look like an ol' fart from the G&CC? Until this year, Moore played with Ping irons and woods. Of course, Ping makes good equipment, but most of the top players on tour are using forged wedges and irons. Moore ended the year strongly since the switch, and I think a LOT of good and knowledgeable players noticed and will be buying customized Scratch Golf soft carbon steel irons/wedges, before they purchase the off the shelf big manufacturer stuff. Like I say, I'm a big Ryan Moore fan. Hope he has an even better '10.

Everything in my bag from the 4 iron to the lob wedge is Scratch. Sure, they cost more than typical OEM, but you can't get the options of sole grinds of your choosing with the OEM's; they tend to take a "one size fits all" approach. The only other company of which I am aware that did the custom option system was MacGregor, several years ago. But their custom ordered clubs were over $2000/set of irons. Scratch is much more reasonable, and the quality of meterials and workmanship is superb, and their specs are on the money.