Need a lot of help on my swing....

[NiftyNiblick]

Actually, only the highest level management people walk away from a failed company with anything. Most management by far walks away with jack sh*t.

Meanwhile, the represented employees walk away with their negotiated severance packages and their guaranteed pensions. And the management people, who thought they were something special but are suddenly on food stamps, hate them. [Anti-union workers are dumber than a bag of rocks—of this I am absolutely certain.]

This isn’t speculation. This is life as I witnessed it first hand. One guy hated union officials so much that he physically attacked me in a public place.* He went to intensive care and then reconstructive surgery. I went to jail for continuing to hit him when he was comatose. I think it was worth it.


And since this is on the golf forum, I'm off to a decent early start this season.

* I guess he didn't read newspapers in the 1960s.

[poe4soul]

We'll see about the guaranteed pensions. United's isn't so guaranteed and I would fear that GM's will be cut significantly as well. We all know the status of our other guaranteed retirement plan, social security. I'll be surprised if it exists when I'm of age.

[collegegolfer]

i dont know... do you really find that most dont care how bad they are?? from what i have seen so far in my time spent around golf (which, yeah, its been a lot... but only 5yrs now...) it seems that almost universally people want to get better at golf... just what i have noticed...

Most, some, all...tough to gauge, I've never done a survey. MANY golfers we have walking through our public course on the weekend we see here or there. They "want to improve" but probably play less than 10 times per year. So, if you ask them, who wouldn't say "I want to improve." But, it's like fishing to me...if someone asked "would you like to know what you're doing what you're fishing?" I'd say "yes." But, I'd rather golf than fish so getting better at fishing ain't going to happen. Members and regulars are usually more serious about improving and usually take lessons.

[collegegolfer]

A lot of bad golf being played today is based in economics and time. Many players grab a round at the local publinx when they can. They don't have time to practice and can't afford good instruction. As a former union rep, I knew plenty of guys for whom golf was a nine hole league game, once a week after work, and that's that.

Lots of those guys break fifty, with ill-fitting store bought clubs, and for them, that's a good achievement. Most of us here don't acknowledge that those of us who get to enjoy golf on our own terms represent a significant minority.

This is exactly it! The players I play with spend 5-8 hours a day during spring, summer, and fall on the course. I get off work and practice/play until dark. I play all weekend. It's my life. Last year I was a +0.8 HDCP and played in 6 amateur tournaments. My stroke average was around 2 under par in those tournaments. People who play with me (and don't get a chance to play with better ams) always say things like "wow, it's so amazing to watch someone able to do what you do" and "i'd give my (insert appendage) to play like you." These people are mostly over a 5 HDCP. How did I get to where I'm at. I LIVE golf and practice golf and play golf. The last 15 years of my life I would say from April-October I spend at least 5 hours per day at the course. If you spend that much time and you AREN'T good as a result, you need to quit the game.

[dychen85]

of those 5-8 hrs, how long do you spend on the driver range, putting green, course etc? what is your practice schedule like?

[Larryrsf]

Most, some, all...tough to gauge, I've never done a survey. MANY golfers we have walking through our public course on the weekend we see here or there. They "want to improve" but probably play less than 10 times per year. So, if you ask them, who wouldn't say "I want to improve." But, it's like fishing to me...if someone asked "would you like to know what you're doing what you're fishing?" I'd say "yes." But, I'd rather golf than fish so getting better at fishing ain't going to happen. Members and regulars are usually more serious about improving and usually take lessons.

Wow! We need to keep this in perspective. I want to be a good player, but I will get there by ingraining solid fundamentals, become able to consistently hit fairways and greens and get up and down. That's good enough! I will never be a pro; why would I, all but a tiny few are starving-- don't make enough to support a wife and family.

We should remember that there is NO substantive difference between an obsessed amateur golfer and the guys who spend hours every day playing pool, dominoes, darts, or horseshoes. Some think that's an insult-- but those guys think golfers are nuts, ha.

Larry

[No_Idea]

"I drop my right foot back and kick my right knee in toward the target....."
Larry

Believe it or not, I have tried to do that when I started about a year ago. But I found out that it is not practical because the actual swing is not like that.

[jt1135]

Hey Larry. Most of those store owners were never in the union. They actually were like you. Pulling all nighters on the books and with masters and phd's they still can't make a store pay off. While the union guys go to work, put their hours in, get a decent wage, insurance, pension and help your buddies make a living by spending their money in those stores. You mentioned one time about pulling all nighters. Okay, start at 11 pm, shut all sewer plant down and make significant changes to the plant for 12 to 20 hours. Hmmm. Guess I would rather read a book too then be knee deep in crap. People like me and Nifty make it possible for aholes like you to live the way you do. Have you ever thought about all the necessites you take for granted?

[collegegolfer]

I usually hit about 1.5 on short game (putting chipping) and 1.5 on the range. I don't just pound balls on the range, I set up alignment aids and work on feel and shaping shots. Then I usually jump around and play as many holes as I can for a couple of hours. Normally there are at least 2 or 3 other people I know out hitting with me. We help each other out, talk, play games first to hit a hole-in-one on the range, see who can hit the biggest slice, hook, lowest shot, lowest cut shot, lowest draw, etc. Then we all go play a few holes. Time goes quick.

"We should remember that there is NO substantive difference between an obsessed amateur golfer and the guys who spend hours every day playing pool, dominoes, darts, or horseshoes. Some think that's an insult-- but those guys think golfers are nuts, ha."

Larry, your quote says everyone picks different hobbies. Brilliant! My goal at one point in my life was to be a teaching pro. The problem was after working at a course for a few years in high school/college decided that pros don't play enough golf. They basically own a business and get to golf once in a while. So I found a different job and do what I love...play golf and tournaments. Playing competitively in college was one of the best times of my life. But by the end of my college career I was ready to be done golfing on someone else's schedule.

[LyleG]

it might be time for Larry and yourself to get a room, as this is getting embarrassing.

[Nick01]

Hey guys, it's been a long time since I posted on the forum. It's also been a long time since I broke 80. Basically I went from hitting my driver 280 to now hitting my driver around 230 yards. in 05 my swing speed was around 106-109. Now i can barely reach 100 mph. The really shocking part is that I have been working out a lot this off season, yet I still can't gain any distance.

Hi,

An important part of improving your golf swing is timing. Therefore when playing any shot is important that you do not take the club back slowly only then to accelerate through the swing to hit the ball. Instead what you should be trying to do is maintain a consistent speed throughout the entire length of the swing from when you take the club back to the time that you actually strike the ball.

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Golf Swing Video

[poe4soul]

Hey Nick,

Nice spam. BTW, the voice on your web page is absolutely annoying. Is that your wife?

[bjdrivers]

if this mofo is shooting 125, then his putting is an abomination. i think i would work on the short game before posting swing videos. hell, if you can get on or around a green in par, you'd still have to 3-jack most of the greens. his swing is not THAT bad, his shortgame must be up there with obama's healthcare plan.

[Basil]

A skillful and accurate natural golf swing can be a very hard thing to master and are often done by luck or by chance. Average players more often depend on luck in order to deliver a good shot. Technically speaking, there really is a way wherein you can master your swings. It takes constant practice along with appropriate guidance. If you are successful in combining the elements of a good golf swing, you are now able to do swing with full force and accuracy. Again, constant training and proper guidance is the secret.

[Kiwi Player]

So this was the famous thread with the Tai Chi video. First time I've read it. Such a shame Larry removed the link. Still, just reading the reactions was priceless.

[Not a hacker]

So this was the famous thread with the Tai Chi video. First time I've read it. Such a shame Larry removed the link. Still, just reading the reactions was priceless.

Although he makes reference to it, I don't recall this being the thread where the slow motion vid was posted. That little gem was part of a thread started by Larry himself. It also had loads of 'critiques' from everyone who viewed it.

Just let it go Kiwi, you are never going to see the vid. It's gone and will never be posted again. Having been lucky enough to see the vid, I can't begin to imagine the anguish you must feel at missing out on such an epic event, but you just need to accept it and get on with life.