Shovel experiment, take 2

[Not a hacker]

In spite of all my commitment to GFF, I was cruising ebay the other day and came across a set of Powerbilt TPS 6.0 in firm flex. I have had a set of these before and it has been a lasting regret of mine that I didn't keep them. I've been looking for a set of these everywhere for the last 5 years and this is the first set that has been up for sale. The starting price was low so I couldn't help myself and I put in a bid. After a few days there were no more bids so it was obvious there wouldn't be much action. I put in a higher safety bid as once before I was gazumped by a bid with 30 seconds to go. As the clock wound down, sure enough the same bottom feeder that gazumped me last time tried the same shite again, but this time he outsmarted himself and couldn't outbid me in time. So I picked then up for $86, which is a bargain.

I know this purchase seems to go against everything I've said, but as far as shovels go, these are the best of the best IMO and I couldn't let the opportunity slip by without putting in a bid. If that low life had have got them with one bid I would have never forgiven myself. And I've gotts start facing the facts that I'm a 10 marker who doesn't get the time to practice that you need to use blades, as I found out last weekend when I hit some awful shots with the forged cavities.

I'm going to put them in the bag this weekend to see if they are as good as I remember them to be. If I don't like them I can get my money back pretty easily on ebay or selling them on consignment in the pro shop. I know GFF could eventually rescue my ballstriking problems, but I won't get the time I need to practice in the forseeable future, but for the short term I'll give these shovels a go.

I spit in the face of the flames I know I'm about to receive.

[Kiwi Player]

Congrats Hacker

I hope those sticks are as good as you remember.

I have a dilemma of a different sort. When I bought the GFF they were supposed to be practice clubs to fine tune my ball striking with blades and go back to the CB shovels as my gamers. However I've been hitting the GFF beautifully. I was hitting GIR with everything from the 4 iron to PW on Saturday and the 9 iron & PW in particular were absolute pinseekers. So on Sunday I decided to put the TP's back in the bag to see how I went with the added forgiveness of a CB. Answer: Fuking terrible! Ball striking was awful and these things felt dead and unresponsive. Not to mention they also look and feel like huge shovels now. I'll reserve judgement for the time being as it's possible my swing was just off on Sunday and it may have been just as bad with the GFF in th bag. But if I have truly crossed the rubicon with those shovels then I might be looking for a new set of GFF to become my gamers. The 33's are pretty old and beaten up and were just supposed to be my practice set. The MP-32's are a newer model and appeal as a set of GFF blades with more forgiveness than the 33's. Or maybe one of the newer CB models like the 60's or 57's would be the go.

If I do end up getting another GFF set SWMBO will be thrilled! I might have to take lessons from you in covert golf club purchase operations!

[SoonerBS]

I like food and I know my body needs food. I have often walked through supermarkets perusing the shelves of luscious vegetables and robust meat cutlets knowing that they would fulfill my body's needs in nutrition. BUT, I have purchased instead a bottle of multi-vitamins I found on the shelf of my local pharmacy. They are loaded with all the ESSENTIAL vitamins and minerals my body needs so WHY would I need to buy real food? I'm sure that my body will be satisfied and that I have made a great choice . . . . .

[Kiwi Player]

I like food and I know my body needs food. I have often walked through supermarkets perusing the shelves of luscious vegetables and robust meat cutlets knowing that they would fulfill my body's needs in nutrition. BUT, I have purchased instead a bottle of multi-vitamins I found on the shelf of my local pharmacy. They are loaded with all the ESSENTIAL vitamins and minerals my body needs so WHY would I need to buy real food? I'm sure that my body will be satisfied and that I have made a great choice . . . . .

WTF????????

[Mizuno>Ping]

I like food and I know my body needs food. I have often walked through supermarkets perusing the shelves of luscious vegetables and robust meat cutlets knowing that they would fulfill my body's needs in nutrition. BUT, I have purchased instead a bottle of multi-vitamins I found on the shelf of my local pharmacy. They are loaded with all the ESSENTIAL vitamins and minerals my body needs so WHY would I need to buy real food? I'm sure that my body will be satisfied and that I have made a great choice . . . . .

That's the weirdest paragraph I've ever come across.

[SoonerBS]

If you two guys are to dense to see the irony, I can't help you. I think NAH will know what I am saying . . . . .

[Kiwi Player]

If you two guys are to dense to see the irony, I can't help you. I think NAH will know what I am saying . . . . .

Yeah I get it. Just came out of left field. Initially I thought it might belong in the vegan discussion over in the NGF.

[SoonerBS]

Yeah I get it. Just came out of left field. Initially I thought it might belong in the vegan discussion over in the NGF.

NAH is our friend and he NEEDS GFF fulfillment, but he is, and has been, trying to find all kinds of substitutes. It is not working and it is NOT going to work. He needs Mizuno GFF in the worse way right now. We need to do an "intervention" and encourage him to do the right thing and invest his money on the REAL thing.

It is our duty as his friends.

[No_Idea]

If and ONLY if the fairway is flat like the range mat, those oversize irons will surely outperform the GFF.

[lorenzoinoc]

If I do end up getting another GFF set SWMBO will be thrilled! I might have to take lessons from you in covert golf club purchase operations!

I used to think of you as being a better person than the rest of us.

[Not a hacker]

If you two guys are to dense to see the irony, I can't help you. I think NAH will know what I am saying . . . . .

I get the irony, but I guess for now I've just go with the vitamins (TPS 6.0s) and forego the pleasure and experience of the meal (GFF). I am still committed to getting some GFF before the end of 2010, but for now I'll settle for the powerbilts.

Thanks Kiwi, good to see your GFF are going so well. The short time when my Zoids were really firing was the probably the most enjoyable few months I've had on the course. Just go with the flow and keep the GFF in the bag til they start fuking up, then go back to the TPs if your swing goes off as they are designed to compensate for bad swings.

[famousdavis]

I like food and I know my body needs food. I have often walked through supermarkets perusing the shelves of luscious vegetables and robust meat cutlets knowing that they would fulfill my body's needs in nutrition. BUT, I have purchased instead a bottle of multi-vitamins I found on the shelf of my local pharmacy. They are loaded with all the ESSENTIAL vitamins and minerals my body needs so WHY would I need to buy real food? I'm sure that my body will be satisfied and that I have made a great choice . . . . .

That's not a good analogy. The real food is better for your body, per your point. To say that a blade is better for your game because it's the "real deal" doesn't wash.

[FreakOfNature]

That's not a good analogy. The real food is better for your body, per your point. To say that a blade is better for your game because it's the "real deal" doesn't wash.

I bet you eat that fake crab meat, don't you? Just as good as real crab, is what people who eat it always tell me.

Next thing we know you'll be recommending fleshlights instead of real punani...

Seems quite likely considering that all of the evidence seems to point to the fact that you're quite fond of stroking yourself.



FON

[oldplayer]

I see where you are coming from NAH. It is good to experiment and do the hard yards to find out what is the best chioce for you. That can change over time too, depending on your confidence and attitude. I agree that for a measly 86 bucks the powerbilts are worth it for the nostalgia alone. If they don't work out, so what. It's a pretty cheap experiment. I have been an ebay hound in my time and some of the bargains are simply too good to pass up. Funny, I saw that set of powerbilts and thought of you. One of the reasons I have so many sets is that once i get them I like them all in different ways and can't see a good reason for getting rid of them.

[oldplayer]

I used to think of you as being a better person than the rest of us.

He is Lorenzo, he is. That is why I think a lot of him.
But it is an undenyable truth that the power and lure of GFF, like the call of the sirens, can make even the best man fall.

[lorenzoinoc]

I agree that for a measly 86 bucks the powerbilts are worth it for the nostalgia alone. If they don't work out, so what. It's a pretty cheap experiment. I have been an ebay hound in my time and some of the bargains are simply too good to pass up. Funny, I saw that set of powerbilts and thought of you. One of the reasons I have so many sets is that once i get them I like them all in different ways and can't see a good reason for getting rid of them.

Fess up OP, you were the other bidder.

It's a brilliant strategy, NAH. For $86 you can screw with them for a while. Then, tell your other you want to take her out for a fancy dinner because she's so special. On the night of, bend and break all the shafts and place them behind your vehicle. Back over them on your way to dinner. Rush out of the vehicle and when you come back in, lean on the wheel, sobbing that they were your favorite clubs ever. Beforehand, in front of a mirror, practice a heartbreaking look of crying anguish.

I've only been around one woman who could resist being overcome by compassion and caving on GFF in this situation. You know who she is.

[oldplayer]

Fess up OP, you were the other bidder.

It's a brilliant strategy, NAH. For $86 you can screw with them for a while. Then, tell your other you want to take her out for a fancy dinner because she's so special. On the night of, bend and break all the shafts and place them behind your vehicle. Back over them on your way to dinner. Rush out of the vehicle and when you come back in, lean on the wheel, sobbing that they were your favorite clubs ever. Beforehand, in front of a mirror, practice a heartbreaking look of crying anguish.

I've only been around one woman who could resist being overcome by compassion and caving on GFF in this situation. You know who she is.

No way, I wouldn't bid on those hacker sticks.
Lorenzo I had no idea you were so devious. But i suppose that is an important skill in succeeding when chasing *****.

[lorenzoinoc]

No way, I wouldn't bid on those hacker sticks.
Lorenzo I had no idea you were so devious. But i suppose that is an important skill in succeeding when chasing *****.

I was the youngest of six. Opportunity didn't just rain down from the sky. Besides, I've never been arrested.

[oldplayer]

I was the youngest of six. Opportunity didn't just rain down from the sky. Besides, I've never been arrested.

Ahh, the baby of the family, no wonder you are so cute!
I can't believe i got beeped for posting pu$$y. This GR filtering software needs some serious attention.
I am very glad to see you are now making the most of your opportunities. You cutsy wootsy little fella (grabs both cheeks, no...not butt cheeks, and gives them a wiggle).

[Horseballs]

NaH, this is getting ridiculous.
Here is my serious advice. Your ballstriking will continue to suck if you keep buying new irons every 3 months. It doesn't even matter what style of irons you play (GFF being the best however), playing the same clubs for an extended period of time will breed familiarity and confidence. Don't mistake a bad round of ballstrking for bad ballstriking in general. I've had the same irons for the past 5 seasons (minus the failed 6 month Wishon experiment) and all my clubs are at least 3 years old. I know them all well. I have learned to hit them all well.

Zo, you lost so many cool points for relating your sob-story technique. I realize I just lost several of these points by using the term "cool points" but it was worth it.

[SoonerBS]

That's not a good analogy. The real food is better for your body, per your point. To say that a blade is better for your game because it's the "real deal" doesn't wash.

I never mentioned the word "blade" in any of my above posts. Could it be that your own subconscious knows what is right and it is leaking the truth out in your posts? Have you been craving the feeling of a GFF blade in your hands to feel the pure ecstasy whenever it melts into a well hit ball, FD?

Methinks you have . . . . . . you naughty boy.

[SoonerBS]

I bet you eat that fake crab meat, don't you? Just as good as real crab, is what people who eat it always tell me.

Next thing we know you'll be recommending fleshlights instead of real punani...

Seems quite likely considering that all of the evidence seems to point to the fact that you're quite fond of stroking yourself.



FON

Ahhhhh, . . . . one of my favorite words and an expert way to avoid the GR censoring machine . . . . . . PUNANI. I can still see and hear Janet Jackson asking Tupak Shakur, "Do you want to smell my Punani?"

I wanted to smell it . . . . . .

[lorenzoinoc]

NaH, this is getting ridiculous.
Here is my serious advice. Your ballstriking will continue to suck if you keep buying new irons every 3 months. It doesn't even matter what style of irons you play (GFF being the best however), playing the same clubs for an extended period of time will breed familiarity and confidence. Don't mistake a bad round of ballstrking for bad ballstriking in general. I've had the same irons for the past 5 seasons (minus the failed 6 month Wishon experiment) and all my clubs are at least 3 years old. I know them all well. I have learned to hit them all well.

Zo, you lost so many cool points for relating your sob-story technique. I realize I just lost several of these points by using the term "cool points" but it was worth it.

I'm trying to wake him up. He won't stand up to her and say, listen you b.itch, I'm getting new clubs and if you don't like it you can go shag yourself (I met a really hot Brit lady this weekend). You seriously think I'm suggesting he cry his way to new clubs?

It was a tough shame approach and the fact that it went right by you, that it lives in the world of plausibility for you, puts you squarely in the hapless state of mistakenly thinking married guys from an Ohio have any cool points.

[Horseballs]

I'm trying to wake him up. He won't stand up to her and say, listen you b.itch, I'm getting new clubs and if you don't like it you can go shag yourself (I met a really hot Brit lady this weekend). You seriously think I'm suggesting he cry his way to new clubs?

It was a tough shame approach and the fact that it went right by you, that it lives in the world of plausibility for you, puts you squarely in the hapless state of mistakenly thinking married guys from an Ohio have any cool points.

Don't try to deflect, Zo. I'm not the guy suggesting b!tchmove techniques for clubwhoring.
My scene-control is beyond reproach.

[lorenzoinoc]

Don't try to deflect, Zo. I'm not the guy suggesting b!tchmove techniques for clubwhoring.
My scene-control is beyond reproach.

If you're going to treat this like it's an argument or something, I'm turned off by the femaleness of your doing that.

Not everything is about being right. Sometimes you're simply left with possibilities to consider. When you go straight to delusion and blame, you leave yourself isolated and even more feminine in appearance.

[Horseballs]

If you're going to treat this like it's an argument or something, I'm turned off by the femaleness of your doing that.

Not everything is about being right. Sometimes you're simply left with possibilities to consider. When you go straight to delusion and blame, you leave yourself isolated and even more feminine in appearance.

This isn't one of our better arguments, that's for sure.

[lorenzoinoc]

This isn't one of our better arguments, that's for sure.

I guess the longer I'm outside a LT relationship, the less I feel like arguing with anyone about anything. And I'm Italian. But I remember what it's like. I can remember getting pavement slammed by my wife or gf and then realizing I'd try and perform the same service on someone else. Some innocent person who didn't deserve it.

Besides, unless I got back into the fray with the other, it didn't reduce my frustration. I'm only trying to help here, having been there.

[Not a hacker]

NaH, this is getting ridiculous.
Here is my serious advice. Your ballstriking will continue to suck if you keep buying new irons every 3 months. It doesn't even matter what style of irons you play (GFF being the best however), playing the same clubs for an extended period of time will breed familiarity and confidence. Don't mistake a bad round of ballstrking for bad ballstriking in general. I've had the same irons for the past 5 seasons (minus the failed 6 month Wishon experiment) and all my clubs are at least 3 years old. I know them all well. I have learned to hit them all well.

Zo, you lost so many cool points for relating your sob-story technique. I realize I just lost several of these points by using the term "cool points" but it was worth it.

I agree with your point, but funnily enough that is one of the reassons I got these. I just don't have any confidence in the clubs I'm bagging now. The powerbilts will be like welcoming back an old friend. I've used these before and liked them. I have good memories to draw upon, but with the other sets they are new and I just haven't had any good rounds with them, hence zero confidence. My ballstriking was really at a level where I don't think I could have recovered with the sticks I had.

P.S. I liked Zo's theory in principle, but my missus would just have contempt for me if she saw me cry over golf clubs, and would tell me I've got plenty of other sets lying around so don't think you'll be getting a new set. I also think he may have got inspiration for this scam from Geoge Costanza, who used a similar tactic to postpone his wedding to Susan.

[BURNDOG]

NAH, I usd to know a guy like you, his vice was buying shite cars, he used to have a different banger every few weeks. He used to think he was getting a right deal everytime..."honest mate, this car was worth 18k new, you can have it for 300", serious, everytime he thought he was getting a bargain, the fact of the matter was he was a shite driver and either kept crashing them or blowing the engines on them... We used to try and tell him, for all those bangers, if he would have just stuck with one and saved, he could have bought a brand new car...

I see your thing is buying cheap clubs regular, either on the retro buzz of beauties gone buy or just being tight.....

Be strong, don't dip into the GFF pot of samurai splender...


The force is weak in you at the moment NAH, do not succombe to the darkside of POS OEM RETRO SGI paddles...

[bjdrivers]

I like food and I know my body needs food. I have often walked through supermarkets perusing the shelves of luscious vegetables and robust meat cutlets knowing that they would fulfill my body's needs in nutrition. BUT, I have purchased instead a bottle of multi-vitamins I found on the shelf of my local pharmacy. They are loaded with all the ESSENTIAL vitamins and minerals my body needs so WHY would I need to buy real food? I'm sure that my body will be satisfied and that I have made a great choice . . . . .

sooner that is phucking brilliant. my vote for post of the year. damn.

[12sandwich]

I bag the 57s and love em, but I still crave the easiness of the mx 23s I bagged for nearly 3 years, and sold to buy some mp 60s. and bought another set of mx 23s recently like new for cheap. Owned and sold some 32s and I struggled with them, such a small sweetspot.

[bjdrivers]

nah just play whatever fits bro, the GFF will always be there when you're ready. I, like you, have zero practice time anymore, so it's stupid to game something you don't have the time to put into it.

[steviestuboy]

In spite of all my commitment to GFF, I was cruising ebay the other day and came across a set of Powerbilt TPS 6.0 in firm flex. I have had a set of these before and it has been a lasting regret of mine that I didn't keep them. I've been looking for a set of these everywhere for the last 5 years and this is the first set that has been up for sale. The starting price was low so I couldn't help myself and I put in a bid. After a few days there were no more bids so it was obvious there wouldn't be much action. I put in a higher safety bid as once before I was gazumped by a bid with 30 seconds to go. As the clock wound down, sure enough the same bottom feeder that gazumped me last time tried the same shite again, but this time he outsmarted himself and couldn't outbid me in time. So I picked then up for $86, which is a bargain.

I know this purchase seems to go against everything I've said, but as far as shovels go, these are the best of the best IMO and I couldn't let the opportunity slip by without putting in a bid. If that low life had have got them with one bid I would have never forgiven myself. And I've gotts start facing the facts that I'm a 10 marker who doesn't get the time to practice that you need to use blades, as I found out last weekend when I hit some awful shots with the forged cavities.

I'm going to put them in the bag this weekend to see if they are as good as I remember them to be. If I don't like them I can get my money back pretty easily on ebay or selling them on consignment in the pro shop. I know GFF could eventually rescue my ballstriking problems, but I won't get the time I need to practice in the forseeable future, but for the short term I'll give these shovels a go.

I spit in the face of the flames I know I'm about to receive.

Powerbilts are amazing to use, they just never moved with the times. The old makes lost their way through the late 80's early 90's, H&B are top notch if you can get an old set in good condition.

I have my Powerbilt century blades 1984 on ebay uk the now, go buy them all you GFF cum buckets lol.

[Mizuno>Ping]

If you two guys are to dense to see the irony, I can't help you. I think NAH will know what I am saying . . . . .

I get it, but without the very first post, it would be very awkward.

[Not a hacker]

Got to go to the course and hit a few balls yesterday. As has been wel documented, I play a goat track, and the 'practice' 'fairway' is a 140 odd yard piece of junk at the side of the first hole so I can only use the wedge. The first few hits were very ordinary and I thought the magic had permanently disappeared. But when I picked up my balls to hit them back up the fairway the ground down there had some good lies and it all suddenly came together. Not sure if it was the powerbilts or just the fact I got a chance to actually hit a few balls and get a feel for the swing, but I started striping them. The feeling was pure and I put the whole 20 balls I hit in an area about the size of a small to medium green. No shockers, the bad shots being only about 10 yards short of the good ones. Another thing that I did just before it clicked was go through the whole pre shot routine before each shot. I've been working on maintaining the wrist cock much deeper into the downswing, and I managed to make a pre shot routine that helped me do this. I am going to get ot the course earlier from now on so I can hit 20 or 30 balls before I go out, and stick with the new pre shot routine. My confidence for this Saturday is a 180 degrees turnaround from last week.

[Not a hacker]

Powerbilts are amazing to use, they just never moved with the times. The old makes lost their way through the late 80's early 90's, H&B are top notch if you can get an old set in good condition.

I have my Powerbilt century blades 1984 on ebay uk the now, go buy them all you GFF cum buckets lol.

I've only gamed the TPS 6.0 and 7.0, and they are so far ahead of any Ping, Cally, or other over priced GI clubs I've ever hit. I had a hit of a mates Grand slam irons and they were absolute junk, but the TPS line up until the 8.0, which were too GI, are seriously good clubs. They just don't have the hype of the other OEMs, more than likely because they don't pay endorsements. Out of the 2 I'd probably prefer the 6.0, as the 7.0s were probably a little bit too GI and lacked the feedback of the 6.0s. I prefer the look of the 6.0s too.

[edgey]

Got to go to the course and hit a few balls yesterday. As has been wel documented, I play a goat track, and the 'practice' 'fairway' is a 140 odd yard piece of junk at the side of the first hole so I can only use the wedge. The first few hits were very ordinary and I thought the magic had permanently disappeared. But when I picked up my balls to hit them back up the fairway the ground down there had some good lies and it all suddenly came together. Not sure if it was the powerbilts or just the fact I got a chance to actually hit a few balls and get a feel for the swing, but I started striping them. The feeling was pure and I put the whole 20 balls I hit in an area about the size of a small to medium green. No shockers, the bad shots being only about 10 yards short of the good ones. Another thing that I did just before it clicked was go through the whole pre shot routine before each shot. I've been working on maintaining the wrist cock much deeper into the downswing, and I managed to make a pre shot routine that helped me do this. I am going to get ot the course earlier from now on so I can hit 20 or 30 balls before I go out, and stick with the new pre shot routine. My confidence for this Saturday is a 180 degrees turnaround from last week.

Good on ya NAH, if the worst comes to the worst you can always pick up a set of MX 20/23 at a reasonable price.

Good luck with Saturday

Edgey

[Kiwi Player]

I bag the 57s and love em, but I still crave the easiness of the mx 23s I bagged for nearly 3 years, and sold to buy some mp 60s. and bought another set of mx 23s recently like new for cheap. Owned and sold some 32s and I struggled with them, such a small sweetspot.

So you've bagged the 32's, 60's and 57's. How do they compare and how do you rate each? I picked up cheaply an old beat up set of MP-30's 3-5 iron and MP-33's 6-PW and I'm loving them. It's got me thinking I want to upgrade to the modern equivalent. The closest thing I can see in the modern line up would be the MP-62 to replace the 30's and the 67/68's to replace the 33's. If I was to do it via E-Bay and pick up something older it would probably be the MP-60 to replace the 30's and the MP-32 to replace the 33's. Trouble with fleabay is I wouldn't be able to easily buy the mixed set I'm looking for.

[12sandwich]

So you've bagged the 32's, 60's and 57's. How do they compare and how do you rate each? I picked up cheaply an old beat up set of MP-30's 3-5 iron and MP-33's 6-PW and I'm loving them. It's got me thinking I want to upgrade to the modern equivalent. The closest thing I can see in the modern line up would be the MP-62 to replace the 30's and the 67/68's to replace the 33's. If I was to do it via E-Bay and pick up something older it would probably be the MP-60 to replace the 30's and the MP-32 to replace the 33's. Trouble with fleabay is I wouldn't be able to easily buy the mixed set I'm looking for.

Kiwi I struggled with the 32s the 60s seemed way more easy for me to hit, same shaft, same length, same grips. I truly did not give the 32s much more than a month, and I demoed the 57s and 52s and was like wow are these easier to hit, sold the 32s for more than I paid, and bought some 57s The 32s were gorgeous to look at, by far the prettiest clubs I owned. The 57s will stay in the bag for awhile, maybe longer. The more I play them, the more I like them, and the bonus with the 57s is I hit them longer than my 60s or the 32s OR THE MX 23s which supposedly have stronger lofts due to the game improvement thing. Though I just bought some new old, mx 23s amazing forged clubs, among the easiest to hit of any club I have played. Kiwi your on track with your recent mizuno purchase, it gets better!

[12sandwich]

So you've bagged the 32's, 60's and 57's. How do they compare and how do you rate each? I picked up cheaply an old beat up set of MP-30's 3-5 iron and MP-33's 6-PW and I'm loving them. It's got me thinking I want to upgrade to the modern equivalent. The closest thing I can see in the modern line up would be the MP-62 to replace the 30's and the 67/68's to replace the 33's. If I was to do it via E-Bay and pick up something older it would probably be the MP-60 to replace the 30's and the MP-32 to replace the 33's. Trouble with fleabay is I wouldn't be able to easily buy the mixed set I'm looking for.

You know the mp 52s were progressive from 3-pw more cavity and weight low in the 3 and less cavity, more blade like towards the pw. Pretty impressive looking, still not alot of offset, thin topline, and you cant see the cavity when at setup. If I had to do it again, I suppose I would choose the 52s. the 57s play like a slightly larger mp60 which is not a bad thing 60s are accurate, buttery when pured, punishing when hit thin! Slightly off toe or heel shots still produced nice shots, and there pretty reasonable on ebay. If I was as good as famos I,d be bagging some mp 14s

[Kiwi Player]

You know the mp 52s were progressive from 3-pw more cavity and weight low in the 3 and less cavity, more blade like towards the pw. Pretty impressive looking, still not alot of offset, thin topline, and you cant see the cavity when at setup. If I had to do it again, I suppose I would choose the 52s. the 57s play like a slightly larger mp60 which is not a bad thing 60s are accurate, buttery when pured, punishing when hit thin! Slightly off toe or heel shots still produced nice shots, and there pretty reasonable on ebay. If I was as good as famos I,d be bagging some mp 14s

In all honesty before I bought the MP30/33 set I looked at the current Mizuno range and really thought that the MP-52 would be the best club for me in the MP range. However this experiment with the blades has made me think that all the hype and fear about how difficult to hit blades are is just a load of marketing bollocks. A good swing is a good swing and a poor swing is a poor swing whether it's with blades or GI shovels. The GI don't help that much on fat/thin shots. I also tend to agree with a lot of others that have said over the years that with a GI shovel you can't tell the difference between a shot out of the middle and a shot off the toes/heel. I'm sort of leaning towards a players cavity in the 3-5/6 irons and blades in the 6/7-PW. Having a little more forgiveness in the longer irons is good but having more feel/playabilty in the shorter scoring clubs is great.

There are some MP-14's on our local fleabay that are in immaculate condition but they have X-100 shafts in them. They look to me just like the MP-33.

[12sandwich]

I recently dare I say it, bought some shovels! I cant stop thinking about some guys hitting 150 yard pw shots with these taylormade ti bubble 2 irons. 10 year old tech titanium with copper low and back, and heard the shafts were some of there best. They were 1600 or 2000 dollars when new, got some on jewbay for 200. I figured if I like em, I can use them when I,m old and crotchety, and blast past some young punks.Or cuban missile launchers. I suppose there not shovels, so much as nowadays shovels, or are they? I buy and sold, and kept only grain flow forged. but i guess i,m a ho experimenting with shovels 2

[Not a hacker]

I recently dare I say it, bought some shovels! I cant stop thinking about some guys hitting 150 yard pw shots with these taylormade ti bubble 2 irons. 10 year old tech titanium with copper low and back, and heard the shafts were some of there best. They were 1600 or 2000 dollars when new, got some on jewbay for 200. I figured if I like em, I can use them when I,m old and crotchety, and blast past some young punks.Or cuban missile launchers. I suppose there not shovels, so much as nowadays shovels, or are they? I buy and sold, and kept only grain flow forged. but i guess i,m a ho experimenting with shovels 2

Definitely in the cast POS SGI hacker shovel category. The graphite shafts also make them a GR bona fide *** club. But good luck with them all the same.

[No_Idea]

i bought new 32s and sold them with some margin. i somewhat regret selling it.

[shoeinc]

i'm currently playin a set of 33's from 4 - pw and have a 57 3iron , i have played a full set of 57's and while if you struggle with ball striking they may be a better option but i really think the playablity and responsive feel of the 33's will make you a better player !!

i'm young enough and have gone from 9- 6 since i moved to 33's , before that had gone from 27 - 10 with a set of tzoid comp but when after 2 years changed to a real set of shovels in tm rac 2 os !! hated them from the word go and didnt last long before i bought the 33's !

its from my own experience that makes me think u can't become a better player if you buy into the big bertha marketing of the bigger the cavity the better !

[Not a hacker]

i'm currently playin a set of 33's from 4 - pw and have a 57 3iron , i have played a full set of 57's and while if you struggle with ball striking they may be a better option but i really think the playablity and responsive feel of the 33's will make you a better player !!

i'm young enough and have gone from 9- 6 since i moved to 33's , before that had gone from 27 - 10 with a set of tzoid comp but when after 2 years changed to a real set of shovels in tm rac 2 os !! hated them from the word go and didnt last long before i bought the 33's !

its from my own experience that makes me think u can't become a better player if you buy into the big bertha marketing of the bigger the cavity the better !

As you are a newbie I will let you know this as politely as possible. It is indoctrinated into GR lore that you don't let us know until it's dropped 4 shots off your handicap. Nobody cares if it has dropped only 3 shots off your cap.

[shoeinc]

sorry didnt mean to offend the god who's to big a pu55y to put blades in the bag !! i've only had them 6 months and went to 5 before the summer ended and lost form !!

why post if you won't take opinion of better player who has the clubs you want to know about ?

[oldplayer]

sorry didnt mean to offend the god who's to big a pu55y to put blades in the bag !! i've only had them 6 months and went to 5 before the summer ended and lost form !!

why post if you won't take opinion of better player who has the clubs you want to know about ?

Don't take him seriously, he's only taking the piss. Plus he is right, when using new equipment it is a GR standard, set by our Dorkman (over 6k posts) that no improvment is deemed authentic unless you loose 4 shots.

[edgey]

sorry didnt mean to offend the god who's to big a pu55y to put blades in the bag !! i've only had them 6 months and went to 5 before the summer ended and lost form !!

why post if you won't take opinion of better player who has the clubs you want to know about ?

Its seems to me there is only one person who has been offended here and self praise is no praise.

Know your limits

Edgey

[noshuz]

sorry didnt mean to offend the god who's to big a pu55y to put blades in the bag !! i've only had them 6 months and went to 5 before the summer ended and lost form !!

why post if you won't take opinion of better player who has the clubs you want to know about ?

Have you met Famousdavis? He's our resident DB (dominating baller) He's as close to scatch as one could verbally get. A couple of lessons from him and could gte that 4th stroke off your hc.
Glad to help!.....

[Kiwi Player]

i'm currently playin a set of 33's from 4 - pw and have a 57 3iron , i have played a full set of 57's and while if you struggle with ball striking they may be a better option but i really think the playablity and responsive feel of the 33's will make you a better player !!

i'm young enough and have gone from 9- 6 since i moved to 33's , before that had gone from 27 - 10 with a set of tzoid comp but when after 2 years changed to a real set of shovels in tm rac 2 os !! hated them from the word go and didnt last long before i bought the 33's !

its from my own experience that makes me think u can't become a better player if you buy into the big bertha marketing of the bigger the cavity the better !

I recently bought MP-30's 3-5 & MP-33's 6-PW after playing R7 TP's for the past 2-3 years and I am in agreement with the general sentiment of your post.

I only bouight the Mizuno's out of curiosity but so far I am loving them and they have displaced the R7's in the bag. I also agree that the marketing hype of the big OEMS is what scares most of us away from blades towards big oversize cavity backs.

[Not a hacker]

Don't take him seriously, he's only taking the piss. Plus he is right, when using new equipment it is a GR standard, set by our Dorkman (over 6k posts) that no improvment is deemed authentic unless you loose 4 shots.

Couldn't have said it better myself. As the only 6,000 poster who regularly visits here, we must begrudgingly pay respect to his wisdom on these things. Many of us felt the sting of the "tell us when it takes 4 shots off your cap" reply when extolling the qualities of new equipment.

[Not a hacker]

As mentioned in FDs thread, I shot a 5 over second time out with the new sticks, and I chipped and putted only averagely. The new shovels have been a revelation. I remember when I had them last time I could hit them pretty good, but I have improved my swing since then and now I can't believe how well I hit them. I was hitting the short irons like darts, and hitting the long irons pretty decent, but still have a little bit of doubt at the moment opf truth from my months of hitting it like crap. Even though I wasn't absolutely puring the long irons, they were still going straight and long. Even though these are undounbtedly shovels, they perform like a better players club on good swings. They have a reasonably straight face with little offset, and look more compact than other shovels at address. The feel is unbelieveable for a cast iron. The shots I hit out of the middle felt as good as a forged club, and took off with the fizz I haven't seen in my shots since I got rid of the GFF. I also got plenty of bite on approaches, and a high but penetrating baby draw on all shots. Not sure about workability as I didn't have to work it much, although I did have to hit one controlled draw under overhanging branches which ended up pin high on the right side of the green. These clubs are far and away the best cast clubs I've ever hit, way better than anything by Ping or Cally. They are definitely staying in the bag for the time being, and will never be sold. Getting these for $86 almost makes up for the thousands I've lost buying and selling clubs over the last 6 or 7 years since I last had a set of them. In hindsight, I should have had the last set adjusted for me and I would have saved alot of oney.

[golfaholic]

Not a Hacker,

Just break down and suck a cock.


Sincerely,

Joel.

[Not a hacker]

Not a Hacker,

Just break down and suck a cock.


Sincerely,

Joel.

I take it that works for you, but I'll pass on that one.

[golfaholic]

I take it that works for you, but I'll pass on that one.

So generous.

I have played 9 holes in the last 2 and 3/4 months. Sucks all the courses are closed for the year, I've been itching to play a round. I think I would use just about any kind of club, if I had the chance to play in warm weather.

I hate growing up.

[Not a hacker]

So generous.

I have played 9 holes in the last 2 and 3/4 months. Sucks all the courses are closed for the year, I've been itching to play a round. I think I would use just about any kind of club, if I had the chance to play in warm weather.

I hate growing up.

Get out of the boon docks and find a decent place to live. Heaps of Canadians come to Australia to escape the shitty weather you get up there. In about 90% of towns in Australia, and every capital city, golf is playable all year round. Even the cold places still have golf available during the midle of the day year round. There are only the occassional days during summer when it gets too hot. And as has been pointed out, golf here is cheap and easily accessible to the masses. At the club I'm going to I could concievably play up to 5 times a week for free, and play in the comps the other two days for the nominal fee of $12 a pop. All for the princly sum of $870 pa for subs. Personally I couldn't go more than 2 weeks without golf withoutgoing seriously insane. I don't know how you guys manage to go 6 months without playing.

[edgey]

The feel is unbelieveable for a cast iron. The shots I hit out of the middle felt as good as a forged club, and took off with the fizz I haven't seen in my shots since I got rid of the GFF.

What the f uck!

Where has the NAH gone i remember, WHO HAS STOLEN THE REAL NAH!!!!!!

Edgey

[Not a hacker]

What the f uck!

Where has the NAH gone i remember, WHO HAS STOLEN THE REAL NAH!!!!!!

Edgey

I know it sounds like a flip flop, but it's not entirely that. I still believe everything I've said about GFF and blades, and I know that my improvements can be put down in the most part to the feedback and precision I've got from my GFF and blades over the years. But I can't deny the facts, these shovels are awesome. 10 GIR second time out can't be ignored. That's more than double my GIR over the last 6 months or more. I think I've finally found the best clubs for my game, and they just happen to be cast, GI, CB POS shovels. I actually thought you of all people would understand my predicament.

It's almost ironic how we have both embraced each other's philosophy about equipment despite initially being amongst the most vocal opposition.

Edgey with GFF and me with shovels. Who'd have thunk it.

[Horseballs]

Edgey is playing FGFF, but I understand the general point.
I actually played Friday and Saturday this past weekend. The weather was unbelievable for mid-late November and the course is in great shape. Played skins with our head pro in the group both days and took him behind the shed on day 1. It was funny because I wasn't really talking any sh!t and he's a very humble, classy guy, but he sought me out on the range on Saturday to get in my group to win back his cash. He won 13 to my 4. Ouch. I had been on a great gambling streak in various venues for the past 3 weeks. Be it poker, bowling, golf, football bets against The Purist, etc. Probably up over $400 until the pro knocked me down a bunch of pegs.

[SoonerBS]

I know it sounds like a flip flop, but it's not entirely that. I still believe everything I've said about GFF and blades, and I know that my improvements can be put down in the most part to the feedback and precision I've got from my GFF and blades over the years. But I can't deny the facts, these shovels are awesome. 10 GIR second time out can't be ignored. That's more than double my GIR over the last 6 months or more. I think I've finally found the best clubs for my game, and they just happen to be cast, GI, CB POS shovels. I actually thought you of all people would understand my predicament.

It's almost ironic how we have both embraced each other's philosophy about equipment despite initially being amongst the most vocal opposition.

Edgey with GFF and me with shovels. Who'd have thunk it.

[poe4soul]

It's almost ironic how we have both embraced each other's philosophy about equipment despite initially being amongst the most vocal opposition.

This isn't ironic, it's typical. Pick anything in life and the loudest protesters generally have an internal struggle. That's were the gay's saying of "the greasy wheel get's the lube" comes from. Look at all the politicians that are for family values, against gays, etc. and are caught with a wide stance in the airport restroom, picked up soliciting prostitutes, etc.

It's very typical not ironic.

Enjoy your clubs and keep posting good scores. I don't mean this to burst your bubble or plant any seeds of doubt but it's still the honeymoon period with the new clubs. Even if you've had them before it still classifies.

[edgey]

I know it sounds like a flip flop, but it's not entirely that. I still believe everything I've said about GFF and blades, and I know that my improvements can be put down in the most part to the feedback and precision I've got from my GFF and blades over the years. But I can't deny the facts, these shovels are awesome. 10 GIR second time out can't be ignored. That's more than double my GIR over the last 6 months or more. I think I've finally found the best clubs for my game, and they just happen to be cast, GI, CB POS shovels. I actually thought you of all people would understand my predicament.

It's almost ironic how we have both embraced each other's philosophy about equipment despite initially being amongst the most vocal opposition.

Edgey with GFF and me with shovels. Who'd have thunk it.

I now believe the world has gone completely ga ga, totaly tonto.

I wonder if my time on GR should come to an end as everything i valued here has been shattered.

Edgey

[SoonerBS]

This isn't ironic, it's typical. Pick anything in life and the loudest protesters generally have an internal struggle. That's were the gay's saying of "the greasy wheel get's the lube" comes from. Look at all the politicians that are for family values, against gays, etc. and are caught with a wide stance in the airport restroom, picked up soliciting prostitutes, etc.

It's very typical not ironic.

Enjoy your clubs and keep posting good scores. I don't mean this to burst your bubble or plant any seeds of doubt but it's still the honeymoon period with the new clubs. Even if you've had them before it still classifies.

So . . . . . . you're basically saying that NAH is gay. Makes sense . . . . . .

[Not a hacker]

So . . . . . . you're basically saying that NAH is gay. Makes sense . . . . . .

I think you only have to look at my clubs to reach that conclusion. The only thing missing is the hybrid.

[groundhogday]

Finally there is a GR concensus, NAH is a poofer.

Does the club make one a h omo or does the h omo make the club gay?

GHD

[Globalhelpdesk]

I now believe the world has gone completely ga ga, totaly tonto.

I wonder if my time on GR should come to an end as everything i valued here has been shattered.

Edgey

Gee whiz I can see Edgey's exit. Picture this.

A bathtub of hot water with scented bath salts.
Twenty-five scented candles flickering in the backdrop.
Don't cry for me Argentina playing in the background.
A set of Mx-25's with a thriver setting in the corner.
Edgey setting in the bathtub trying to cut his wrist with a disposible razor.

Please Edgey don't do it you have plenty to live for on this board.




Edgey why would you leave all of this.

G H D

[SoonerBS]

Gee whiz I can see Edgey's exit. Picture this.

A bathtub of hot water with scented bath salts.
Twenty-five scented candles flickering in the backdrop.
Don't cry for me Argentina playing in the background.
A set of Mx-25's with a thriver setting in the corner.
Edgey setting in the bathtub trying to cut his wrist with a disposible razor.

Please Edgey don't do it you have plenty to live for on this board.




Edgey why would you leave all of this.

G H D

Hey, I happen to like Evita . . . . .

[Globalhelpdesk]

Hey, I happen to like Evita . . . . .

Gee Whizz Sooner

I prefer Andrea Bocelli when attempting to end my GR life with a throwaway razor

But Evita is a good fall back.

G H D

[groundhogday]

Gee Whizz Sooner

I prefer Andrea Bocelli when attempting to end my GR life with a throwaway razor

But Evita is a good fall back.

G H D

I profer Hnk Williams Jr. Family Tradition

GHD