Looks like he may have spent too much time in the casinos after yesterday's round. So close to getting his full time priviledges back too. What a f*cking waste.
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Word on the street is that he went to see Garth at the Wynn lastnight and got sauced out of his mind... Makes sense as he looks more red in the face than usual... A side note, I've played this course before, and it is very very easy, even if he got wasted, lost all his $ playing blackjack, screwed a tranny hooker, and broke his left arm, there's no excuse for 15 over or whatever the hell he is right now... This course is the perfect Daly course, pretty wide open, very flat greens, no real trouble... Totally baffling...
I have played under various levels of insobriety... If I have a few beers on the back nine it doesn't hurt me at all, may help my putting a bit... Playing drunk is still manageable. I've played with a hangover, but a few advil and some fruit juice and a ton of water would cure that right away. But by far the worst thing that has ever affected my play is lack of sleep, can't swing, can't think, don't even want to be there...
I have played under various levels of insobriety... If I have a few beers on the back nine it doesn't hurt me at all, may help my putting a bit... Playing drunk is still manageable. I've played with a hangover, but a few advil and some fruit juice and a ton of water would cure that right away. But by far the worst thing that has ever affected my play is lack of sleep, can't swing, can't think, don't even want to be there...
I thought everyone knew advil and alcohol combined will destroy your liver... or any ibuprofen,
On a regular basis yes it'll chew up your liver, and your kidneys, but once in awhile it's ok, advil's the only thing that kills my headaches, but yeah, not good to make a habit out of booze and advil, not really even a good idea to take advil regularly either... As I'm already down a kidney you'd think I'd be more careful...
On a regular basis yes it'll chew up your liver, and your kidneys, but once in awhile it's ok, advil's the only thing that kills my headaches, but yeah, not good to make a habit out of booze and advil, not really even a good idea to take advil regularly either... As I'm already down a kidney you'd think I'd be more careful...
I hear you. I just broke my right knuckle again in an altercation with a 'concrete wall'... Broke it knocking someone out 20 years and now have 3 titanium pins in hand from 20 years ago.
Broke my hand again and go to ER and get a million questions like I did something wrong. I refuse all pain meds,,,
I should tape my hand up like Iron Mike before getting into it again. Surgeon said I already have arthritis from xray photos... bastard.
Acupuncture doc is cool...
Never underestimate the power of an uppercut if someone gets in your space... Our hero, Mike, below, second to John Daly:
They should keep the camera on this guy the entire round.
This is what makes JD so easy to connect with for the common man. All of us know what it's like to shoot lights out one day then stink it up the next. JD is the everyday man golfer.
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I hear you. I just broke my right knuckle again in an altercation with a 'concrete wall'... Broke it knocking someone out 20 years and now have 3 titanium pins in hand from 20 years ago.
Broke my hand again and go to ER and get a million questions like I did something wrong. I refuse all pain meds,,,
I should tape my hand up like Iron Mike before getting into it again. Surgeon said I already have arthritis from xray photos... bastard.
Acupuncture doc is cool...
Never underestimate the power of an uppercut if someone gets in your space... Our hero, Mike, below, second to John Daly:
Me and my dad never missed a Tyson fight, the thing is so many people say that he fought bums, or that he wouldn't hold his own against histories best boxers, I disagree... When I was boxing I watched a lot of film, Foreman was my favorite fighter, still is, Tyson closed space like no one I've seen before, even better then Joe Frazier who Foreman handled... Tyson showed an amazing ability get through bigger fighters defenses and the thing is Tyson didn't need to hit you clean to hurt you, a blocked punch probably hurt more than a clean one, and getting rattled by a blocked punch just saps your will, if your blocking punches and being moved back and hurt, your 1st inclination is to panic... But Foreman in his prime would have probably embarrassed Tyson, it would have been interesting to see that Tyson V. Foreman fight that was supposed to happen in the 90's... A Tyson V. Frazier fight might have been good too, but probably too many accidental headbutts as both of them led with their head... And Spank, save the hands, throw elbows, I learned that after pulling a piece of some guys tooth out of my knuckle once, after that it was all dirty boxing from then on, and it's hard to beat a concrete wall, though if you keep adding to the titanium content of your fist you may have a chance eventually...
I think Ali would have handled Tyson easily too. A prime 1967 Ali would have boxed his ears off and kayoed him around round 10. A mid 1970's Ali would have done the same but by tying him up, leaning on the shorter Tyson and wearing him out. Douglas showed the blueprint to beat Tyson and if his punches couldn't move a blown up light heavyweight like Holyfield no way is he hurting Ali.
Tyson was a great fighter though. He fought a lot of bums on the way up but all young fighters do. He fought the best fighters of his era and cleaned up the heavyweight division at a time when it was dire. He seemed invincible until he ran into Buster Douglas.
I think Ali would have handled Tyson easily too. A prime 1967 Ali would have boxed his ears off and kayoed him around round 10. A mid 1970's Ali would have done the same but by tying him up, leaning on the shorter Tyson and wearing him out. Douglas showed the blueprint to beat Tyson and if his punches couldn't move a blown up light heavyweight like Holyfield no way is he hurting Ali.
Tyson was a great fighter though. He fought a lot of bums on the way up but all young fighters do. He fought the best fighters of his era and cleaned up the heavyweight division at a time when it was dire. He seemed invincible until he ran into Buster Douglas.
If they fought each other, both in their primes, Tyson would have had Ali moaning for Allah 90 seconds into the second round.
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Tyson / Ali ......I'm thinking Ali but that would be a very interesting match-up in their primes.
Tyson would have done everything right from the beginning to get him cornered. Low blows, head butts, tripping and all the stuff that loses you rounds on points but don't mean squat when your opponent is tits-up on the canvas with his eyes rolled back into his head. Word.
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Tyson would have done everything right from the beginning to get him cornered. Low blows, head butts, tripping and all the stuff that loses you rounds on points but don't mean squat when your opponent is tits-up on the canvas with his eyes rolled back into his head. Word.
Are you kidding? Normally you make sense Mongrel but something tells me you must be smoking something stronger than coffee beans if you truly believe that.
If Sonny Liston, Smokin Joe Frazier, George Foreman and Ernie Shavers couldn't put Ali on the deck and keep him there what makes you think a bird training midget from Brooklyn with a girly lisp is gonna do it?
Ali would have spanked Tin Foil Mike like his Daddy.
BTW if you're hating on Ali because of the Muslim aspect you know Tin Foil Mikes Muslim name is Malik Abdul Aziz don't you?
Are you kidding? Normally you make sense Mongrel but something tells me you must be smoking something stronger than coffee beans if you truly believe that.
If Sonny Liston, Smokin Joe Frazier, George Foreman and Ernie Shavers couldn't put Ali on the deck and keep him there what makes you think a bird training midget from Brooklyn with a girly lisp is gonna do it?
Ali would have spanked Tin Foil Mike like his Daddy.
BTW if you're hating on Ali because of the Muslim aspect you know Tin Foil Mikes Muslim name is Malik Abdul Aziz don't you?
Tyson had to take that name in prison in order to maintain a virgin anus. I watched Casius Clay fight when I was a teenager and agree he was awesome. I remember sitting next to my grandfather watching Floyd Patterson fight Inemar Johannson. My German grandfather was yelling for Ingemar to plant that *********. That's the way those old Germans were back then.
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Tyson would have done everything right from the beginning to get him cornered. Low blows, head butts, tripping and all the stuff that loses you rounds on points but don't mean squat when your opponent is tits-up on the canvas with his eyes rolled back into his head. Word.
And if those dirty moves didn't work Tyson would have went Hannibal on his ear.
Well, I think it would have been interesting to see Ali V Tyson, I don't think Tyson would have mopped the floor with him, but the swarming type fighter that Frazier was did give Ali trouble, and I think Tyson was better at that style, and hit harder than Frazier, Ali had a chin, and he took a lot in the beginning of his fights with Frazier, so undoubtedly he'd take some shots against Tyson, if he couldn't keep Frazier out there's now way he was stopping Tyson from getting inside, the question is could Ali take the shots? I don't think Ali ever took the type of quick power shots Tyson could deliver, not just 1 big punch, but 2-4 bombs delivered in a flurry, if Ali could get through the first few rounds then we'd be talking about Tyson's endurance, something that we never really got to see... So, its kind of hard to predict this one. Unfortunately Tyson beat himself in my opinion, whatever happened to that guy he lost it, and it was a shame... But a young, hungry Tyson would have been a handful for anyone, the guy was just brutal, maybe that's what happens when you take a broke, rejected nobody kid who's full of hate and has nothing to lose, and make him a millionaire.
I think the comparisons between Frazier and Tyson are erroneous. The fact that they were both short and stocky and powerful is where the comparison ends. Frazier was a tough inside brawler who would take 2-3 shots to get inside and go to work. Ali would pepper him with jabs and right crosses but just couldn't keep him off. Tyson threw lightning fast helium bombs from the outside and didn't really work on the inside. He often just clinched and waited for the ref to break. That would suit Ali hands down. He'd just avoid the initial bombs then tie Tyson up. Frazier was a far superior inside fighter but Tyson was a more devastating puncher from the outside and he threw bombs with both hands. Not just the left hook which was Fraziers main weapon. He always had trouble with bigger guys who were tall and strong enough to hold him off or tie him up. Tony Tucker and Boncrusher Smith both took a prime Tyson the distance.
In my mind Ali wins but it would be a hell of a fight to see.
Ali was the best ever and screw you racists-especially any germans out there. What the germans did-back in 'their' heyday, is something they should be punished for forever. Racist, selfish SOB's anyway.............
In my opinion, I think Ali would have destroyed Tyson, if both were in their prospective primes.
Ali was smarter and would have gotten into Tyson's head really bad,
Obviously, we have all seen the best and most entertaining boxing documentary of all time, so I base my opinion on this, and Ali's fights. Ali could juke a nigga.
Ali was the best ever and screw you racists-especially any germans out there. What the germans did-back in 'their' heyday, is something they should be punished for forever. Racist, selfish SOB's anyway.............
The Germans did what the Zoinist Jews are doing in Israel and the Middle East right now, only now we have actual evidence that the Israelis have murdered thousands helpless Palestinian and Islamic citizens. Polish and Austrian gov'ts have acknowledged there were no use of gas chambers during the holocaust, which was criticized by a jew, of all people.
The Germans did what the Zoinist Jews are doing in Israel and the Middle East right now, only now we have actual evidence that the Israelis have murdered thousands helpless Palestinian and Islamic citizens. Polish and Austrian gov'ts have acknowledged there were no use of gas chambers during the holocaust, which was criticized by a jew, of all people.
Everyone with an iota of intelligence knows the holocaust didn't happen, NASA didn't land on the moon, 911 was a US Govt conspiracy to justify invading Iraq and the 2012 US Ryder Cup Team put a huge bet on themselves to be leading after two days but lose the Ryder Cup after 3 days. These are indisputable facts.
Also Jim Morrison, Elvis Presley, Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin are alive and well and living in a monastery in Tibet and working on a collaborative album they will release in 2020 then go on tour. Just like the Traveling Willburys did in 1988.
This forum is the golf side of things. The other forum is for non-golf stuff. Normally, it is amusing when a golf thread takes a left turn and devolves into something else that is often entertaining. However when the Jew-bashing, 911-Trutherism, Israel-trashing and Poor Palestinian-whining come here, they need to be sent over there. Perhaps into an evergreen thread entitled, maybe, something like "Moron Corral" or "Tweakers' Lounge".
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This forum is the golf side of things. The other forum is for non-golf stuff. Normally, it is amusing when a golf thread takes a left turn and devolves into something else that is often entertaining. However when the Jew-bashing, 911-Trutherism, Israel-trashing and Poor Palestinian-whining come here, they need to be sent over there. Perhaps into an evergreen thread entitled, maybe, something like "Moron Corral" or "Tweakers' Lounge".
Mongrel, I went to Golf Mart today and saw one of the most beautiful sets of forged blades; Founders Club 200 Blades with Aldila Graphite Iron shafts for Founder Club and the original grips with Founders Club insignia. They were in absolute mint condition with the exception of the SW. The set is 2-SW and selling for $119. I wonder what they would go for on the Bay? I couldn't find any recent sales.
Next, I saw a set of KZG ZO blades, 3-PW for $109. They look great with a little rust on the faces. The shaft band was missing so I lined them up with another iron from another set that had Dynamic Gold. The last step on the iron for the KZG was closer to the hosel than the other iron so I'm assuming the KZG set is stiffer? I tried them in the simulator and they didn't feel stiff at all and went very high. They felt awesome.
Mongrel, I went to Golf Mart today and saw one of the most beautiful sets of forged blades; Founders Club 200 Blades with Aldila Graphite Iron shafts for Founder Club and the original grips with Founders Club insignia. They were in absolute mint condition with the exception of the SW. The set is 2-SW and selling for $119. I wonder what they would go for on the Bay? I couldn't find any recent sales.
Next, I saw a set of KZG ZO blades, 3-PW for $109. They look great with a little rust on the faces. The shaft band was missing so I lined them up with another iron from another set that had Dynamic Gold. The last step on the iron for the KZG was closer to the hosel than the other iron so I'm assuming the KZG set is stiffer? I tried them in the simulator and they didn't feel stiff at all and went very high. They felt awesome.
If the step is closer to the hosel and if all the steps are the same except for that distance, then the closer step is the stiffer shaft.
If the KZG are forged, then that's probably a real good deal although I've never hit them but knowledgeable people praise them. As for Founder's Club, I had a few fairway woods and a driver made by it in the early '90's. Wasn't that company owned by Gary Player? They were well-made woods but I couldn't hit them but then, at that time, I couldn't hit any woods well until I got ahold of the Taylors with the "Zylex" faces. And then the ones I really pounded, the TopFlite "Heat" drivers.
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And if those dirty moves didn't work Tyson would have went Hannibal on his ear.
I do not think you understand the genius of Ali.
Quoted: "What made Muhammad Ali “the greatest”? Was it his quick powerful punches? Or maybe it was his ability to trash talk his opponents like no other boxer could during his time. Those were just two of the things that made Ali one of the greatest boxers of all time, but perhaps his greatest attribute was his ability to dodge a punch. This gif says it all."
Can you imagine the head games Ali would play with Tyson, both in their primes?
Tyson was a monster but he would never hit Ali like this... Ali played head games, then knocked you out.
Quoted: "What made Muhammad Ali “the greatest”? Was it his quick powerful punches? Or maybe it was his ability to trash talk his opponents like no other boxer could during his time. Those were just two of the things that made Ali one of the greatest boxers of all time, but perhaps his greatest attribute was his ability to dodge a punch. This gif says it all."
Can you imagine the head games Ali would play with Tyson, both in their primes?
Tyson was a monster but he would never hit Ali like this... Ali played head games, then knocked you out.
I think we all can agree Ali is greater.
I agree. Ali would have won the match before they entered the ring. What I'm saying is Tyson would have turned to desperate measures like trying to bite Ali's ear in a clinch. Like he did to Holyfield.
I agree. Ali would have won the match before they entered the ring. What I'm saying is Tyson would have turned to desperate measures like trying to bite Ali's ear in a clinch. Like he did to Holyfield.
Let's set the record straight about Tyson's reasons for biting Holyfield's ear. Holyfield had butted and elbowed his way to a win in their first encounter, and started where he left off in their second fight. Tyson complained to the ref on numerous occassions where Holyfield blatantly butted him, but the ref was too gutless to do anything about it so Tyson, in sheer frustration, lost it and decided to descend to Evander's level and turn it into a sreet fight. Unfortunately where Tyson grew up a street fight was more vicious than where Holyfieldcame from, and he forgot that he was on international closed circuit television. If Holyfield was not on the juice and fought clean, even the shadow of the real iron Mike we saw in that ring would have destroyed him. Holyfield was the dirtiest fighter in the heavyweight division, and that includes Golota.
The views expressed by Not a Hacker are not meant to be understood by you primitive screw heads. Don't take it personally, just sit back and enjoy the writings of your better.
Quoted: "What made Muhammad Ali “the greatest”? Was it his quick powerful punches? Or maybe it was his ability to trash talk his opponents like no other boxer could during his time. Those were just two of the things that made Ali one of the greatest boxers of all time, but perhaps his greatest attribute was his ability to dodge a punch. This gif says it all."
Can you imagine the head games Ali would play with Tyson, both in their primes?
Tyson was a monster but he would never hit Ali like this... Ali played head games, then knocked you out.
I think we all can agree Ali is greater.
Although I agree there is no doubt Ali in his prime would have beaten Tyson, Mike would have given him the best run of any other heavyweight. I've seen footage of Tyson training as a 20 odd yearold and his speed was incredible. His hands were a blur and his lateral movement unbelieveable for a heavyweight. Add his punching power and he was the most dangerous fighter in the history of the sport who in his prime at about 22 would have beaten any other heavyweight we have seen in less than 2 rounds bar Ali. Ali when he was Clay had almost supernatural foot and hand speed, evasiveness and punching co-ordination. If you want to see why Ali would win watch footage of him fighting a guy called Brian London, and watch the incomparable flurry he laid on him when he had him in the corner. That footage is always shown in slow mo cause at normal speed the cameras back then wouldn't have picked up the punches. Add to that the fact Ali had the best chin in the heavyweight division, and an indominatable will to win, and he was the complete package. The scariest thing about Ali is that we did't even get to see him fight at his peak. Ali's peak years were spent fighting the boxing authorities instead of opponents. The 3 years he was suspended from fighting were without doubt what would have been his prime years. He was still the greatest when he came back, but the dazzling footwork and speed was gone. People say stuff about how some guys gave Ali troubles, like Frazier and Kenny Norton (Norton gave Ali more trouble than any other boxer he faced), but those guys wouldn't have landed a single punch on Ali if he hadn't had that layoff. Comparing the way Tyson destroyed Holmes isn't a fiar comparison either, as Holmes fought a shadow of the real Ali, and then Tyson destroyed a shadow of the real Larry Holmes.
The whole argument will never be conclusive, like the way old guys say Joe Louis or Marciano would have beaten Ali, but one thing you can say for sure is that Tyson was really something and was without doubt the fighter of his generation. But Ali was something else and IMO was the fighter of any generation.
The views expressed by Not a Hacker are not meant to be understood by you primitive screw heads. Don't take it personally, just sit back and enjoy the writings of your better.
Let's set the record straight about Tyson's reasons for biting Holyfield's ear. Holyfield had butted and elbowed his way to a win in their first encounter, and started where he left off in their second fight. Tyson complained to the ref on numerous occassions where Holyfield blatantly butted him, but the ref was too gutless to do anything about it so Tyson, in sheer frustration, lost it and decided to descend to Evander's level and turn it into a sreet fight. Unfortunately where Tyson grew up a street fight was more vicious than where Holyfieldcame from, and he forgot that he was on international closed circuit television. If Holyfield was not on the juice and fought clean, even the shadow of the real iron Mike we saw in that ring would have destroyed him. Holyfield was the dirtiest fighter in the heavyweight division, and that includes Golota.
Excuses, excuses ...
The cowardly bully Tyson was being beaten up by a bigger stronger opponent and fouled his way out of the fight to avoid being kayoed for a second time in row. Plain and simple.
Stop making excuses for that spineless lowlife rapist.
Although I agree there is no doubt Ali in his prime would have beaten Tyson, Mike would have given him the best run of any other heavyweight. I've seen footage of Tyson training as a 20 odd yearold and his speed was incredible. His hands were a blur and his lateral movement unbelieveable for a heavyweight. Add his punching power and he was the most dangerous fighter in the history of the sport who in his prime at about 22 would have beaten any other heavyweight we have seen in less than 2 rounds bar Ali. Ali when he was Clay had almost supernatural foot and hand speed, evasiveness and punching co-ordination. If you want to see why Ali would win watch footage of him fighting a guy called Brian London, and watch the incomparable flurry he laid on him when he had him in the corner. That footage is always shown in slow mo cause at normal speed the cameras back then wouldn't have picked up the punches. Add to that the fact Ali had the best chin in the heavyweight division, and an indominatable will to win, and he was the complete package. The scariest thing about Ali is that we did't even get to see him fight at his peak. Ali's peak years were spent fighting the boxing authorities instead of opponents. The 3 years he was suspended from fighting were without doubt what would have been his prime years. He was still the greatest when he came back, but the dazzling footwork and speed was gone. People say stuff about how some guys gave Ali troubles, like Frazier and Kenny Norton (Norton gave Ali more trouble than any other boxer he faced), but those guys wouldn't have landed a single punch on Ali if he hadn't had that layoff. Comparing the way Tyson destroyed Holmes isn't a fiar comparison either, as Holmes fought a shadow of the real Ali, and then Tyson destroyed a shadow of the real Larry Holmes.
The whole argument will never be conclusive, like the way old guys say Joe Louis or Marciano would have beaten Ali, but one thing you can say for sure is that Tyson was really something and was without doubt the fighter of his generation. But Ali was something else and IMO was the fighter of any generation.
Agree with everything about Ali. Tyson didn't fight anyone any good apart from a past it Larry Holmes before he lost to a fat journeyman named Buster Douglas. After that he was kayoed by a blown up light heavyweight, Holyfield, and Lennox Lewis a lumbering palooka with two left feet. And you think that midget would challenge Ali? Foreman would have flattened him and Larry Holmes in his prime would also have put a whipping on that sissy with the lisp.
Agree with everything about Ali. Tyson didn't fight anyone any good apart from a past it Larry Holmes before he lost to a fat journeyman named Buster Douglas. After that he was kayoed by a blown up light heavyweight, Holyfield, and Lennox Lewis a lumbering palooka with two left feet. And you think that midget would challenge Ali? Foreman would have flattened him and Larry Holmes in his prime would also have put a whipping on that sissy with the lisp.
You make a valid argument, but it's all subjective. Buster Douglas was a fat journeyman for every one of his fights except that one. He was fit and hungry for the only time in his life the nigth he beat Mike. On top of that Mike ws going through some issues and there were even whispers he got dropped by Greg Page in sparring leading up to that fight. Greg PAGE!!!! I think you underestimate how good Buster could be when in the right frame of mind, and you also overlook Tyson's decline in the years leading up to that fight. He was a shadow of the young wrecking ball who destroyed world champions (albeit washed up ones) like Berbick and Spinks inside the first round.
Having said all that, the one thing IMO that Tyson had going against him was his lack of size. He was never a real heavyweight. Even a roided up Holyfield made Mike look small, and Holyfield was only a pumped up light heavy. As good and fast and mean as Tyson was, I think even at his peak a good big guy would have given him trouble. Tyson beat most opponents before they entered the ring, but I'm sure even at his best there were some guys Tyson's team were ducking. Lennox Lewis never got in the frame for a shot at Tyson, and there were rumours that Oliver McCall used to man handle Tyson in sparring sessions. Lewis especially is an underrated fighter. He looked lazy and ponderous at times and would some times enter the ring under done, but he was a real big guy who had great skills and outboxed everyone he fought.
The views expressed by Not a Hacker are not meant to be understood by you primitive screw heads. Don't take it personally, just sit back and enjoy the writings of your better.
You make a valid argument, but it's all subjective. Buster Douglas was a fat journeyman for every one of his fights except that one. He was fit and hungry for the only time in his life the nigth he beat Mike. On top of that Mike ws going through some issues and there were even whispers he got dropped by Greg Page in sparring leading up to that fight. Greg PAGE!!!! I think you underestimate how good Buster could be when in the right frame of mind, and you also overlook Tyson's decline in the years leading up to that fight. He was a shadow of the young wrecking ball who destroyed world champions (albeit washed up ones) like Berbick and Spinks inside the first round.
Having said all that, the one thing IMO that Tyson had going against him was his lack of size. He was never a real heavyweight. Even a roided up Holyfield made Mike look small, and Holyfield was only a pumped up light heavy. As good and fast and mean as Tyson was, I think even at his peak a good big guy would have given him trouble. Tyson beat most opponents before they entered the ring, but I'm sure even at his best there were some guys Tyson's team were ducking. Lennox Lewis never got in the frame for a shot at Tyson, and there were rumours that Oliver McCall used to man handle Tyson in sparring sessions. Lewis especially is an underrated fighter. He looked lazy and ponderous at times and would some times enter the ring under done, but he was a real big guy who had great skills and outboxed everyone he fought.
I'm just flaming ya. Tyson was a great fighter. Not a real heavyweight? I think the scales would argue that he was. But I take your point. Following the Tyson era where heavyweights were about 6'3" and weighed about 220lbs the game seems to have changed to giants like Lewis and the Klitscho's who are 6'6" and 250lbs. But I still think a prime Tyson would have kayoed Lewis. He would have gone after Lewis from the opening bell and forced that big lazy palooka to fight. Lewis would have tried to outbox him like he did with Tua but Tyson was 10 times faster than Tua and much more aggressive. No way Lewis could live with Tyson for 12 rounds and even if he did he'd lose the decision.
Tyson fought all the best fighters of his era but he was only a shell of his former self by the time he met Lewis.
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