How to develop the late release

[Larryrsf]

As nearly everyone knows, the late release is the primary difference between "us" and "them," those who hit it 100 yards further and more accurately with every club. They set their wrists and they hold that set almost through impact, until gravity forces the clubhead down to the ball.

How do they do that? I guarantee that they DO NOT hold the wrist set with hands. That is impossible. In fact conscious attention to the wrist set will nearly always cause casting, the opposite of what we want.

They do that by leading their downswing with hips, just as Hogan taught. The hips turn toward the target AND THEN the shoulders and arms come down, the hands simply hold onto the club handle. As Snead said, the loosest possible grip pressure is better-- because the club is allowed to "flail" through with only gravity.

But we can't just turn our hips toward the target. FIRST, we must shift our weight to the front leg "post." The shift can be fairly subtle, but it must happen. No shift means no hips leading which means deceleration before impact, another 200 yard drive with 270 yard exertion.

This means a change in the ingrained sequence for most amateurs. According to TPI, 99% of amateurs fail to shift before impact.

So how do we make this change? Since the downswing sequence is "software," i.e. in our subconscious mind, we must change or reprogram it by slow motion repetitions. Then sleep. Your subconscious will do it all night! And the next day, you will be closer. And eventually you will have it, a permanent swing change.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FXoQqp-Mis

This is the way I rehearse it. Full early wrist set, put the club in the correct "pre-impact" position aligned with the target, clubhead pointing UP. Then coordinate your downswing with your back knee moving toward your front knee. Try it. You will be amazed that you hit the ball standard distances with what feels like ZERO effort from arms and hands. Your hips provide the power-- just as Hogan taught. The positive feedback from that clean "click" of clubhead striking ball and that perfect ball flight will encourage your subconscious mind to make this swing change. Just do it a few thousand times, ha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...KKYw4AjiU&NR=1

Here is Bobby Jones demonstrating this same principle. He talks about disabling his right hand from spoiling the shot by too early interference, causing casting.

Larry

[DGreen]

Looks to me that you are improving Larry, keep it up.

[alangbaker]

2004 (9 YEARS ago):

'I write here because I learned how to do it by combining Bobby Jones with Dr. Melvin. The Whippy drills, the basic of basic start necessary to learn to hit a Whippy actually teach a great way to make an easy and coordinated hip turn. Just add Bobby Jones' aggressive hip press and then hip turn back durin the takeaway to Dr. Melvin's "feet together" drill and you will make a beautiful transition-- and hit the ball straight with a 2 -iron!!!
Eureka!

Today I hit every club in my bag straight and long as easy as pie--with my feet together and making an aggressive hip turn toward the target. I will slowly widen my stance over time, but instantly go back to feet together if I lose it.

This really is the Holy Grail of golf. Now I will hit greens in regulation.'

[Larryrsf]

And then we see the predictable moronic post by my stalker. He has been banned from other forums for this, maybe they will clean this forum up also.

Larry

[alangbaker]

What is "moronic" about providing the context that what you say is almost never true, Larry?

Do you realize that within 18 months of taking up the game of golf, you were claiming that you knew the weight shift was nonsense?

You've been here only 2 days and you've already earned the title of
"RSG bullshitter Of The Year". Larry, the people of RSG aren't this
stupid, they don't believe anything you tell them.

[DGreen]

Way too much thinking Larry ............focus on your left elbow coming down and it will help you immensely.

[The Purist]

As nearly everyone knows, the late release is the primary difference between "us" and "them," those who hit it 100 yards further and more accurately with every club. They set their wrists and they hold that set almost through impact, until gravity forces the clubhead down to the ball.

How do they do that? I guarantee that they DO NOT hold the wrist set with hands. That is impossible. In fact conscious attention to the wrist set will nearly always cause casting, the opposite of what we want.

They do that by leading their downswing with hips, just as Hogan taught. The hips turn toward the target AND THEN the shoulders and arms come down, the hands simply hold onto the club handle. As Snead said, the loosest possible grip pressure is better-- because the club is allowed to "flail" through with only gravity.

But we can't just turn our hips toward the target. FIRST, we must shift our weight to the front leg "post." The shift can be fairly subtle, but it must happen. No shift means no hips leading which means deceleration before impact, another 200 yard drive with 270 yard exertion.

This means a change in the ingrained sequence for most amateurs. According to TPI, 99% of amateurs fail to shift before impact.

So how do we make this change? Since the downswing sequence is "software," i.e. in our subconscious mind, we must change or reprogram it by slow motion repetitions. Then sleep. Your subconscious will do it all night! And the next day, you will be closer. And eventually you will have it, a permanent swing change.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FXoQqp-Mis

This is the way I rehearse it. Full early wrist set, put the club in the correct "pre-impact" position aligned with the target, clubhead pointing UP. Then coordinate your downswing with your back knee moving toward your front knee. Try it. You will be amazed that you hit the ball standard distances with what feels like ZERO effort from arms and hands. Your hips provide the power-- just as Hogan taught. The positive feedback from that clean "click" of clubhead striking ball and that perfect ball flight will encourage your subconscious mind to make this swing change. Just do it a few thousand times, ha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...KKYw4AjiU&NR=1

Here is Bobby Jones demonstrating this same principle. He talks about disabling his right hand from spoiling the shot by too early interference, causing casting.

Larry

I think you have accurately described the most important aspect of the swing, the pivot. With this type of swing it is a 3 piece move. Turn left hip back, shift (bump) laterally, and turn (unwind).

In your video you have the shift and turn (parts 2 & 3), but it looks like you are aren't turning the lead hip back to start the back swing. Notice how in the Bobby Jones video, his right hip seems to stay in place, but his left hip and knee turn back...the lead knee looks to be pointing behind the ball at the end of the back swing. I do the same thing (not turning back correctly), and you end up with the right hip immobile or blocking the shift back forward...all kinds of problems creep in when that happens.

[Larryrsf]

The more modern swing omits the hip turn back that Jones did-- because it puts the club off the plane and then requires that it be re-routed back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymsmb...ature=youtu.be

Far better to take it back on plane and then swing it down on plane with a simple pivot of the upper body over a stable lower body. Do it in slow motion to prove you can do it at all.

Larry

[alangbaker]

The more modern swing omits the hip turn back that Jones did-- because it puts the club off the plane and then requires that it be re-routed back.

In other words, "Bobby Jones is gospel when he says something I agree with, but I know better than he does when he says something that doesn't".

LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymsmb...ature=youtu.be

Far better to take it back on plane and then swing it down on plane with a simple pivot of the upper body over a stable lower body. Do it in slow motion to prove you can do it at all.

I can already do it, Larry.

I shot 43 for 9 holes tonight with essentially no putting or short game practice.