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    Please respond if you hate Phil Mickelson.

    Just want to guage the feelings for this goob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd_Christmas3
    Just want to guage the feelings for this goob.

    Well having never met the man i cant possible comment. I have only ever seen him smile on tour, but i havent heard any comments either way about the man. He plays well but who amongst us REALLY knows what he is like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom p
    Well having never met the man i cant possible comment. I have only ever seen him smile on tour, but i havent heard any comments either way about the man. He plays well but who amongst us REALLY knows what he is like?

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    I really do not like Phil, but i dont go around talking about how much i dislike him. Personaly i just do not like his whole attitude he is just simply not one of my favorites, but its not like i pull against him. And with all due respect he didnt win the Masters because he cant play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pingman360
    I really do not like Phil, but i dont go around talking about how much i dislike him. Personaly i just do not like his whole attitude he is just simply not one of my favorites, but its not like i pull against him. And with all due respect he didnt win the Masters because he cant play.
    I will put you down for a semi-hate. And no one said he couldn't play, but that doesn't mean he's not a jerk.

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    ive read those articles and seen other references to FIGJAM. whihc is an awfully catchy nickname. in the context of that, all his smiling/humble gestures strike me as an utter facade. i cant stand his snarky little wife on golf academy.

    that said---but for those articles, i would only have thought "this guy sure is trying to come off as wholesome"---but i wouldnt have detected that he was disliked. the "riff" we have from these articles is that the tour players dont like him---but there are so many ******* professional athletes out there---im not sure that phil deserves as much scorn as some would heap upon him. at least he makes the effort (for whatever reason) to be gracious to fans (this year he gave a fan 2 benjamins after he hit an errant shot breaking the guys crappy watch).

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    clearly he is trying too hard with his image thing---but look at the results of people who dont give a damn --- such as sabatini--- id say between two awful personalities, we should at least semi-applaud the guy who tries to limit our exposure to his jerkiness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip
    ive read those articles and seen other references to FIGJAM. whihc is an awfully catchy nickname. in the context of that, all his smiling/humble gestures strike me as an utter facade. i cant stand his snarky little wife on golf academy.

    that said---but for those articles, i would only have thought "this guy sure is trying to come off as wholesome"---but i wouldnt have detected that he was disliked. the "riff" we have from these articles is that the tour players dont like him---but there are so many ******* professional athletes out there---im not sure that phil deserves as much scorn as some would heap upon him. at least he makes the effort (for whatever reason) to be gracious to fans (this year he gave a fan 2 benjamins after he hit an errant shot breaking the guys crappy watch).
    ... and then said "well, its not like it was a rolex or anything...."

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    He reminds me of Steve Garvey of the LA Dodgers of yesteryear. Highly talented, comes across as Mr. Clean and the family man, but there is more style than substance on the image. I like watching him play; I'm not hostile against him, but wouldn't look to him as a role model, either. But the same could be said of Tiger, too.

    My idea of a class act PGA Pro is someone more along the lines of David Toms or maybe Jim Furyk.
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    What about Freddy?

    Quote Originally Posted by dorkman53
    He reminds me of Steve Garvey of the LA Dodgers of yesteryear. Highly talented, comes across as Mr. Clean and the family man, but there is more style than substance on the image. I like watching him play; I'm not hostile against him, but wouldn't look to him as a role model, either. But the same could be said of Tiger, too.

    My idea of a class act PGA Pro is someone more along the lines of David Toms or maybe Jim Furyk.

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    "Why it's a well-known fact that when a camera's not on him he treats old people and kids like dirt...and dogs."

    Milk-elson strikes me as a David Simms type character...he is all humble pie when the cameras are on him, but I don't buy that for a second. Word is the Pros, those who have to deal with him 4 days a week, find him rather obnoxious. I don't particularly like the guy...I think he's phoney, but his game sure as hell isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd_Christmas3
    ... and then said "well, its not like it was a rolex or anything...."
    that quote could be read two ways...it could be a FIGJAM type dick comment....but at the same time...he does have a point. if it were a rolex, 2 bills would hardly have been sufficient. 2k might have been in order. plus hed probably have gotten his one of his sponsors (aka Rolex) to comp the guy.

    it depends on the context of the question---i could easily see that quote going either way.

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    I wish bad things to happen to him on the golf course. Off the course? I guess I wouldn't care if bad things happened to him.
    He comes across as a know it all, like a lot of celebrities out there. Just because you have money, doesn't mean you know everything about everything. I mean, Arizona State? I wipe my ass with ASU diplomas!
    Oh, and he's a sloppy fat dude.

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    And What About Tiger?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd_Christmas3
    Are we to believe that Tiger doesn't put on an act and play to the cameras/press? I mean, c'mon, he's the best player in the world, but his personality is for sh**.
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    I can’t ever remember hearing him speak and I don’t like him. It’s just something about the man.
    I’m not a big Tiger fan but I don’t actively want bad things to happen to Tiger where as it would have made my Masters to see Phil hit with lightning from a clear sky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomhauer
    "Why it's a well-known fact that when a camera's not on him he treats old people and kids like dirt...and dogs."

    Milk-elson strikes me as a David Simms type character...he is all humble pie when the cameras are on him, but I don't that for a second. Word is the Pros, those who have to deal with him 4 dyas a week, find him rather obnoxious. I don't particularly like the guy...I think he's phoney, but his game sure as hell isn't.

    Mark me down for respectfully dislike.
    Haha - Mickelson = David Simms. This seems perfect to me.

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    Phil is the tours # 1 main man.# 1 who deserves a face punch.Can you beat the fake out of someone? Oh well I figure he's due for a heart attack or diabetic coma soon. His double chin is heading for third.
    Still hits a ball better than I probably ever will.

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    i cant stand his snarky little wife on golf academy.
    Get your facts straight. That's Phil's sister not his wife!

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    I don't "hate" him, but I really don't like him as a golf fan. I think he is full of himself.

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    Phil and his family are wonderful people, They donate winnings to their foundation to help children !! Phil has probably the best short game on tour as Im writing ! I think a lot of you are very jealous people of someone that has the guts to go for a shot thats in is mind. Phil has won and lost a few events with his radical decision making but thats what makes him so unique ! When his putting is on no one can keep up. Pelz has really put Phil back on the top of the Tour Rankings the last 2 years. Phil only seems a little backwards to me thats only because he's a lefty ! A great player with a great attitude !
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    Mean Time - Than you PROBABLY ever will? sure. Mickelson is great for the tour. He is made out to be the hero and does a good job of it. Freddy's the nice guy, Tiger's the intense one, Daly is the every man. Like was stated earlier how many people will you get their exact true side in front of the camera. I guess it is cool how tiger is so aloof and doesn't open up - but when someone showcases their smile, family, etc... They are a phony. I am a bit biased hitting the ball from the other side - but between Phil, Weir, Bubba - at least one out of every 10 shots look normal to me. Go Lefty - Congrats on yet ANOTHER major...

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    Quote Originally Posted by meantime
    Phil is the tours # 1 main man.# 1 who deserves a face punch.Can you beat the fake out of someone? Oh well I figure he's due for a heart attack or diabetic coma soon. His double chin is heading for third.
    This post belongs in the Golfreview hall of fame.

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    Well, I am a lefty, and his game was not in question here, backwards or not. The original question was whether or not he was a likable character. All of the Tour guys donate to charities...many of them get a nice kick-back from the IRS because of it, so don't be too quick to coin them philanthropists, but the money is going to good, so I won't b!tch. As for Full Milk-elson, I personally don't buy into the character on the TV screen. Steven Ames took some flak for coming straight out and speaking his mind, but at least you knew what was on his mind...even if he did have to eat his words that same weekend. John Daly does it all the time, and possesses one of the ugliest swings I've seen, but he is the Average Joe's hero...at least he takes a smaller cup size than Phil . Mickelson strikes me as one of those under-handed politician types who put on the big show for the public, but is a complete horse's ass when away from the public eye. The man is an amazing golfer, and he does donate a great deal to charities (a Tour requirement, if I remember correctly, but I am not implying he does it out of obligation). I have never met the man, so my perception of him is based solely on what I read and see, neither of which make me a Phil fanatic. Do I want bad things to happen to the man - no. Does he deserve his wins - yes. Are there players I would rather see atop the leader board on Sunday evening - yes. A devoted Montreal Canadiens fan, I hate the Toronto Maple Leafs...that doesn't mean I want their plane to crash...although I wouldn't mind them tossing Darcy Tucker out at 30 000 feet .
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    Well, I don't hate him, and was actually cheering him on even though I picked Olazabal who made a fantastic run on day 4, but I will respond anyways as I am never short on words. A month ago would anyone imagine that with the short game he has that carrying 2 drivers would ever be an option for any competitive touring pro, unless it was a result of your caddy failing to remove one prior to the round, therebye costing you a major?

    What he has done in the last two weeks is simply amazing, and a decision I find simply illogical. It may or may not revolutionize the game of golf. Hats off for doing something so profound and proving it to be the logical decision.

    Simply amazing to me.

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    Here, Here! Mr.Boomhauer.Exactly.
    Mickleson is talented I won't argue.And loads of people give to charities; both the rich and famous and the not so rich and famous.All the not so rich and famous that I know don't walk around being long winded, fame grabbing, megalomaniacs.
    Would I face punch Phil? no, well... unless he had braces or glasses on.
    Oh and to all the hero talk "Hey be wary of your heros, they will always disappoint you"Arcwelder.History proves this time and time again music, politics,sports.Be your own damn hero and think for your self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROLLMSTR8
    Phil and his family are wonderful people, They donate winnings to their foundation to help children !! Phil has probably the best short game on tour as Im writing ! I think a lot of you are very jealous people of someone that has the guts to go for a shot thats in is mind. Phil has won and lost a few events with his radical decision making but thats what makes him so unique ! When his putting is on no one can keep up. Pelz has really put Phil back on the top of the Tour Rankings the last 2 years. Phil only seems a little backwards to me thats only because he's a lefty ! A great player with a great attitude !
    Alot of pros, and sports stars in general that donate time & money to charity, its part of the PR game. I have to agree that he comes across a smug and arrogant and personally i am not a fan.

    His short game...is good yes, best in the game...no. Tiger is far and away better when it comes to the short game. example 10 majors to 3. And for his putting...i have never seen a pro miss more 3 footers....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PA Jayhawk
    Well, I don't hate him, and was actually cheering him on even though I picked Olazabal who made a fantastic run on day 4, but I will respond anyways as I am never short on words. A month ago would anyone imagine that with the short game he has that carrying 2 drivers would ever be an option for any competitive touring pro, unless it was a result of your caddy failing to remove one prior to the round, therebye costing you a major?

    What he has done in the last two weeks is simply amazing, and a decision I find simply illogical. It may or may not revolutionize the game of golf. Hats off for doing something so profound and proving it to be the logical decision.

    Simply amazing to me.
    The thing is, he didn't even stick to that plan. He was hitting his "draw" driver on the holes that play right to left. So what's the point of carrying 2 drivers if you're going to do that?

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    I dont like him

    I am a lefty player and i dont like him he is a rolex man but the one i dont like most is sergio garcia he is a come mierda in spanish.The best guy out there is Daily

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    don't like phil either

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    For all you hatters, SI is sitting on a story right now cross checking references for accuracy about how Phil has a huge gambling problem and has a jackal and hide personality among other tour pro’s. It sounds like SI's draft makes Phil look real bad but to me its a**-hole journalism just tastless if they run it. However, I can see why people don’t like him. I do agree the whole kids running out to hug him is a little staged and phony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunning4u
    For all you hatters, SI is sitting on a story right now cross checking references for accuracy about how Phil has a huge gambling problem and has a jackal and hide personality among other tour pro’s. It sounds like SI's draft makes Phil look real bad but to me its a**-hole journalism just tastless if they run it. However, I can see why people don’t like him. I do agree the whole kids running out to hug him is a little staged and phony.
    "Jackal and Hide?"
    Try "Jekyll and Hyde"
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    Just to offer my opinion, and i don't feel either way about the whole hate/like thing.

    The article quoted at the start - it offers 4 "truths" none of which mean crap.

    1. The callaway thing and the ryder cup, he changed a long time before hand, he had been practicing and working on them for a long time. people make the point about his match with tiger against harrington and mcginley and him nearly driving out of bounds - that was with a tm 4 wood he has carried for a long time. As a professional athlete and especially a golfer, it's his perogative to change and put anything into play he wants.

    2. The tour championship. Phil skipped it as he doesn't want it as part of his schedule as he pretty much finishes playing after the PGA. Again, his perogative. he plays more events than a lot of the top 5 players. Also the Tour championship was played on the Halloween weekend, which is a big weekend when you have kids. He has eaerned the right to play what and when he wants.

    3. inferior equipment. he said something off the cuff and was hammered for it. He was making a lighthearted if stupid comment. Grow up.

    4. The family man image and the beeper. He is a picture of contentment, he is at the top of his game and his home life looks the best it can be. he is eating what he wants and is happy. If i was waiting for the birth of a child i'd have a beeper too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dorkman53
    "Jackal and Hide?"
    Try "Jekyll and Hyde"
    Thanks dick
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    lloyd your a retard.... you dont even know him, its just penis envy plain and simple
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunning4u
    Thanks dick
    I was just amused at the way you obviously had no idea whatsoever what the phrase "Jekyll and Hyde" meant, though you used it in a post.
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    lloyd your a retard....
    Another post for the GolfReview hall of fame. Just awesome.

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    How would YOU behave?

    Think about it guys?

    How would YOU behave if you were a multi millionaire celebrity sports star, famous and recognised around the world? I'm sure you would also have an on screen TV personality for the fans that may be different to the private side your family and friends see.

    It's easy for us to sit back in the comfort of our anonymity and take cheap shots at Tiger, Mickelson etc for their perceived faults.

    In EVERY walk of life you come across a wide variety of people ranging from great guys to complete jerks.

    Obviously the golf tour is no different.

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    Who knows how he reall is unless you've met him....but it seems that A LOT of people who have met him are less than impressed.

    Daly is cool becuase he is Big John, and nothing else. Tiger is always the same guy...too many reports that say he's nice and respectful (but like any hounded superstar has his moments), Couples is THE MAN,

    In the end it will be phils on course record that matters...now he has 3 majors..and THAT makes him a great golfer...if he manages two ro 3 more, he's a "legend".

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    Angry Holy Crap!...

    What a bunch of old ladies! Passing the rumors(not one bit of info based on fact in any of these posts) back and forth like a bunch of old biddies. What's really hilarious is people like Floyd xmas and marenuts dis'ing someone for supposedly acting like a turd. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. As bad as they portray someone they've never met they come across as ten times worse. And some of you cretins actually respond and agree with him. Wow! I may try and lambaste someone once in a while, but at least it's based on some stupid act they put on here and not based on rumor and innuendo.

    Even some of you who I thought were fairly intelligent come across as shallow and judgemental without one whit of real proof. Most of you would have been welcomed by the Grand Inquisitor for you ability to condemn by word of mouth alone. Bunch of woosies.

    Rant over.

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    I think this thread is nothing short of disgraceful. A large number of disgruntled hacks taking out their jealousy on the man who seems to have it all (& he does).

    How many TOP players act like Saints away from the public eye? Of course they all cultivate a public image (& are paying folks top dollar to do it).

    Phil Mickelson is one of the best things to happen to golf over the last couple of years... without him, who'd be challenging "the even saintlier" Tiger? Ernie "choker" Els? Vijay "blow up" Singh? I doubt it.

    Lloyd, I would have expected more from a decent individual as yourself.

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    I don't see anything disgraceful about this thread. Am I jealous of Mickelson's game...I would love to able to play as well as any Tour pro, not least of which, Mickelson. Am I jealous of his millions...I wouldn't mind having a few more dollars in my account, but it would only end up spent at Golftown anyway . Do I want his home life...no, I am quite content with my own, thank you very much.

    The fact of the matter is public scrutiny is part and parcel with fame - you take a job as a celebrity, you deal with all eyes upon you. Most people have sports celebrities that they like and they dislike. I can't stand Darcy Tucker, Barry Bonds, and many other athletes because they act like idiots. Phil, in my opinion, acts like a phoney idiot. You might notice he was my pick to win The Masters, and I have given him the credit due to his game on several posts, so I do respect his game, I just don't particularly care for his personality. I'm pretty sure that isn't going to diminish his life in any way, so no harm, no foul. But please, don't come on here calling people shallow and immature simply because you like the personality of a golfer they dislike...that is even more immature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred3
    What a bunch of old ladies! Passing the rumors(not one bit of info based on fact in any of these posts) back and forth like a bunch of old biddies. What's really hilarious is people like Floyd xmas and marenuts dis'ing someone for supposedly acting like a turd. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. As bad as they portray someone they've never met they come across as ten times worse. And some of you cretins actually respond and agree with him. Wow! I may try and lambaste someone once in a while, but at least it's based on some stupid act they put on here and not based on rumor and innuendo.

    Even some of you who I thought were fairly intelligent come across as shallow and judgemental without one whit of real proof. Most of you would have been welcomed by the Grand Inquisitor for you ability to condemn by word of mouth alone. Bunch of woosies.

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    All this jealousy talk is bull and you can judge without envey.By being an arrogant ass phil must judge fellow tour players and others with obvious disrespect and disregard.He comes across as self absorbed self centered and arrogant.
    He's good at golf he should be proud not cockey about it.There are people everywhere that could wipe the floor with phil at another sport or aspect of life so being cockey about anything is just stupid.Arrogance just smacks of a complete lack of respect for others.

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    thats funny, Tiger seems awful arrogant to me, and I know there are other sports I could wipe the floor with him.

    Do you watch football at all? quite a few cockey players in the NFL, according to your logic they shouldnt be though.


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    All this jealousy talk is bull and you can judge without envey.By being an arrogant ass phil must judge fellow tour players and others with obvious disrespect and disregard.He comes across as self absorbed self centered and arrogant.
    He's good at golf he should be proud not cockey about it.There are people everywhere that could wipe the floor with phil at another sport or aspect of life so being cockey about anything is just stupid.Arrogance just smacks of a complete lack of respect for others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomhauer
    The fact of the matter is public scrutiny is part and parcel with fame - you take a job as a celebrity, you deal with all eyes upon you. Most people have sports celebrities that they like and they dislike. I can't stand Darcy Tucker, Barry Bonds, and many other athletes because they act like idiots. Phil, in my opinion, acts like a phoney idiot. You might notice he was my pick to win The Masters, and I have given him the credit due to his game on several posts, so I do respect his game, I just don't particularly care for his personality. I'm pretty sure that isn't going to diminish his life in any way, so no harm, no foul. But please, don't come on here calling people shallow and immature simply because you like the personality of a golfer they dislike...that is even more immature.
    Well firstly my post wasn't so much aimed at you, rather at the more vitriolic efforts in this thread.

    I have no issue with you or anybody else disliking him. What was pathetic was the outpouring of insults & *****iness about him & his family. Of course he's phoney to an extent, but at least he makes an effort to be cheerful in the public eye (rather than those who are just plain rude & ungrateful to the galleries).

    I propose a Davis Love III hate thread instead. That would be much more suitable.

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    I think phil mickelson is a big pimp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
    Think about it guys?

    How would YOU behave if you were a multi millionaire celebrity sports star, famous and recognised around the world? I'm sure you would also have an on screen TV personality for the fans that may be different to the private side your family and friends see.

    It's easy for us to sit back in the comfort of our anonymity and take cheap shots at Tiger, Mickelson etc for their perceived faults.

    In EVERY walk of life you come across a wide variety of people ranging from great guys to complete jerks.

    Obviously the golf tour is no different.
    Best post so far...none of the nobodies (myself included) on this board can ever understand what it is like to be in that type of spotlight 24/7...leave the guy alone...read some of the other guys comments from the 10 most hated athletes and you will find some horrible people (i.e. racism, testicle discrimination, etc...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaingolf
    Who knows how he reall is unless you've met him....but it seems that A LOT of people who have met him are less than impressed.

    Daly is cool becuase he is Big John, and nothing else. Tiger is always the same guy...too many reports that say he's nice and respectful (but like any hounded superstar has his moments), Couples is THE MAN,

    In the end it will be phils on course record that matters...now he has 3 majors..and THAT makes him a great golfer...if he manages two ro 3 more, he's a "legend".
    I think it is funny how people think Daly is "cool"...the guy is an alcoholic, has been married 3 times, and his current wife is in jail...I guess that just isn't my definition of "cool"

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    I agree. And the other pros who are saying this stuff, i suppose they are just perfect people too...

    Quote Originally Posted by samsdad
    Best post so far...none of the nobodies (myself included) on this board can ever understand what it is like to be in that type of spotlight 24/7...leave the guy alone...read some of the other guys comments from the 10 most hated athletes and you will find some horrible people (i.e. racism, testicle discrimination, etc...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred3
    What a bunch of old ladies! Passing the rumors(not one bit of info based on fact in any of these posts) back and forth like a bunch of old biddies. What's really hilarious is people like Floyd xmas and marenuts dis'ing someone for supposedly acting like a turd. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. As bad as they portray someone they've never met they come across as ten times worse. And some of you cretins actually respond and agree with him. Wow! I may try and lambaste someone once in a while, but at least it's based on some stupid act they put on here and not based on rumor and innuendo.

    Even some of you who I thought were fairly intelligent come across as shallow and judgemental without one whit of real proof. Most of you would have been welcomed by the Grand Inquisitor for you ability to condemn by word of mouth alone. Bunch of woosies.

    Rant over.
    Holy crap, Fred! Take a minute to take some deep knee bends, a few deep breaths, and calm your short self down!!!

    First, I'm intrigued by the "you can't talk bad about someone you've never met" idea. You probably never met Hitler (just guessing, I could be wrong based on your personality), but you'd probably say he wasn't a good guy.... BUT WHY!!??? YOU NEVER EVEN MET HIM?????? Surely even you, shortstuff, see how ridiculous this is.

    Second, as far as jealously - am I jealous of someone WHO PLAYS GOLF FOR A LIVING? Uhhhhh, yes. Thus I am jealous of ALL tour pro's, not just Phil. And I think a lot of them are perfectly decent people, despite my jealousy. THere have been FAR too many reports that Phil is a phony jerk for them to all be false.

    All that said, I think it makes perfect sense that you are a Phil apologist. At least from your online persona, you seem like an ideal Phil Mickelson fan. Congrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duds
    thats funny, Tiger seems awful arrogant to me, and I know there are other sports I could wipe the floor with him.

    Do you watch football at all? quite a few cockey players in the NFL, according to your logic they shouldnt be though.
    I love the fact that the Phil apologists IMMEDIATELY start talking about Tiger Woods when Phil is criticized, commented upon, etc. "BUT WHAT ABOUT TIGER!!!!!!" I've never heard a single Tiger fan point to Phil Mickelson in any similar situation. I think that probably captures the true nature of this "rivalry."

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    I dont like him. Didnt he complain about Vijah's driver twice? and had the tourny crew test it? Its not like Vijah's hitting 400 yard drives... they are both about the same length. Worry about yourself on the course.

    It's funny, I used to like Phil and dislike Vijah. Then I saw the Daly Planet with Vijah and JD playing a round for charity and started liking Vijah. He is a pretty laid back guy and who is pretty funny.

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    A starting post like this always brings out the white trash of the board.

    Who cares if you like him. People hate Tiger but I appreciate his mark in history he is making. Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

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    Hmmm, didnt Vijay complain about Phil's spikes at last year's Masters?

    Quote Originally Posted by cbarone
    I dont like him. Didnt he complain about Vijah's driver twice? and had the tourny crew test it? Its not like Vijah's hitting 400 yard drives... they are both about the same length. Worry about yourself on the course.

    It's funny, I used to like Phil and dislike Vijah. Then I saw the Daly Planet with Vijah and JD playing a round for charity and started liking Vijah. He is a pretty laid back guy and who is pretty funny.

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    And I love how when the Tiger fans immediately start talking about how Phil didnt have to to play the final round with Tiger, and how Tiger has more majors, and Tiger says thank you, and Tiger does this, and Tiger does that...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd_Christmas3
    I love the fact that the Phil apologists IMMEDIATELY start talking about Tiger Woods when Phil is criticized, commented upon, etc. "BUT WHAT ABOUT TIGER!!!!!!" I've never heard a single Tiger fan point to Phil Mickelson in any similar situation. I think that probably captures the true nature of this "rivalry."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duds
    And I love how when the Tiger fans immediately start talking about how Phil didnt have to to play the final round with Tiger, and how Tiger has more majors, and Tiger says thank you, and Tiger does this, and Tiger does that...
    Uhhhhh, OK. I've never heard them do that, but will take your word for it. But now that you mention it, all those things seem to be true....

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    read some of the posts here, listen to the people who call into the sports talk shows. you will hear them

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd_Christmas3
    Uhhhhh, OK. I've never heard them do that, but will take your word for it. But now that you mention it, all those things seem to be true....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd_Christmas3
    The thing is, he didn't even stick to that plan. He was hitting his "draw" driver on the holes that play right to left. So what's the point of carrying 2 drivers if you're going to do that?
    "Plan", I thought it was for holes that require a more controlled fade shot like 7, 10 and 13. Kind of like asking "what's the point of hitting a draw or a fade" So, are you suggesting that "Course Management" off of the tee can be condensed down to hitting a draw on holes that play left to right, and a fade on holes that play right to left for a lefty???? Regardless of where trouble lies and the option to gain extra distance with a draw where it may be necessary, or weather and wind conditions. He led the field in driving distance on a course that requires distance like almost no other. He won the Masters. I guess if he said he wanted to hit a fade on a certain hole, and when he gets to the hole there is a tremendous wind going right to left or a faiway that will not hold the ball due to course conditions, he needs to stick with his plan.

    I guess you can say he would have won by more if he simply would have hit a fade on right to left holes, or a draw on left to right. I thought his plan was to add a club selection that would help him win The Masters.

    I can see where you may question his decision if he used a driver set up to hit a fade on all of his draws. Establish a plan, and stick too it regardless of whether or not conditions are different when it comes time for execution, yeah, great concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duds
    read some of the posts here, listen to the people who call into the sports talk shows. you will hear them
    I said that I'd take your word for it. I also said all those things seem to be true...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbarone
    I dont like him. Didnt he complain about Vijah's driver twice? and had the tourny crew test it? Its not like Vijah's hitting 400 yard drives... they are both about the same length. Worry about yourself on the course.

    It's funny, I used to like Phil and dislike Vijah. Then I saw the Daly Planet with Vijah and JD playing a round for charity and started liking Vijah. He is a pretty laid back guy and who is pretty funny.

    Peace,

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    fyi, it was vijay who had phil's driver checked not the other way around.

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    There's a local morning radio guy (Mitch Levy) that absolutely hates Hefty. Myself, I don't really care. On the surface, it seems he's a good role model & the tour players that slam him have their own agendas. I don't think we'll really know what kind of person he is till he's through on the PGA, too much money at stake. He is a bit boring to watch now that he's got his course management under control, kind of like watching Retief Goosen. I think he overplays the family card, there are a lot of other great tour players that have nice families, but don't commercialize them.

    Compared to other professional athletes, the PGA by far has the best role models of civility & class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schrup
    There's a local morning radio guy (Mitch Levy) that absolutely hates Hefty. Myself, I don't really care. On the surface, it seems he's a good role model & the tour players that slam him have their own agendas. I don't think we'll really know what kind of person he is till he's through on the PGA, too much money at stake. He is a bit boring to watch now that he's got his course management under control, kind of like watching Retief Goosen. I think he overplays the family card, there are a lot of other great tour players that have nice families, but don't commercialize them.

    Compared to other professional athletes, the PGA by far has the best role models of civility & class.
    How can you "overplay the family card"??? The guy just won the Masters and wants a hug from his wife and kids...what the F is wrong with that...you must be to young to understand what it is like to have a family of your own. When you do...you won't make uninformed comments like that.

    I guess Tiger is "overplaying the family card" by talking about his Dad's cancer...same with Darren Clarke and his wife...etc...wow...that is f-ing ridiculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsdad
    How can you "overplay the family card"??? The guy just won the Masters and wants a hug from his wife and kids...what the F is wrong with that...you must be to young to understand what it is like to have a family of your own. When you do...you won't make uninformed comments like that.

    I guess Tiger is "overplaying the family card" by talking about his Dad's cancer...same with Darren Clarke and his wife...etc...wow...that is f-ing ridiculous

    Yes, the "kids running out to dad" thing was not at all staged. Not at all.

    Hopefully you do not pimp "Sam" out like Phil does his kids...

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    Hey Phil, next time you win a Master's, go cry in your Daddy's arms, and you will be much more liked....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd_Christmas3
    Yes, the "kids running out to dad" thing was not at all staged. Not at all.

    Hopefully you do not pimp "Sam" out like Phil does his kids...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duds
    Hey Phil, next time you win a Master's, go cry in your Daddy's arms, and you will be much more liked....

    Dude, what is with your TW obsession? You can't defend Phil on his own merits, but constantly refer back to Tiger...

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    What's with your Phil obsession?

    You are bashing Phil, I am bashing Tiger. Simple as that

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd_Christmas3
    Dude, what is with your TW obsession? You can't defend Phil on his own merits, but constantly refer back to Tiger...

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    I've been defending Phil on everything. He has won 3 majors now when most thought he couldnt win the big one. He didnt choke Sunday, he loves his family, he's an awesome golfer, he has a hot wife, loves life....should i go on?

    QUOTE=Lloyd_Christmas3]Dude, what is with your TW obsession? You can't defend Phil on his own merits, but constantly refer back to Tiger...[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsdad
    How can you "overplay the family card"??? The guy just won the Masters and wants a hug from his wife and kids...what the F is wrong with that...you must be to young to understand what it is like to have a family of your own. When you do...you won't make uninformed comments like that.

    I guess Tiger is "overplaying the family card" by talking about his Dad's cancer...same with Darren Clarke and his wife...etc...wow...that is f-ing ridiculous
    Do you fancy yourself a clairvoyant or are you just making asinine assumptions about me? BTW, I'm 41 with a family of four. I don't recall seeing any of Ernie's, Davis's, or Vijay's family members in commercials, can't say the same about Phil. You can't tell me Heftys not pimping his family for cash, you're foolish.

    Tiger Wood's has shown class in the relentless media onslaught about his father's illness. The pre Masters interviews were moronic, they even barraged other players with questions about Earl Woods, STFU already & ask some golf questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duds
    I've been defending Phil on everything. He has won 3 majors now when most thought he couldnt win the big one. He didnt choke Sunday, he loves his family, he's an awesome golfer, he has a hot wife, loves life....should i go on?

    QUOTE=Lloyd_Christmas3]Dude, what is with your TW obsession? You can't defend Phil on his own merits, but constantly refer back to Tiger...
    [/QUOTE]

    A. I am bashing Phil because that is what this thread was started for. Start your own TW bashing thread if you want, but your constant reference to Tiger (as most Phil fans constantly do) just shows a serious inferiority complex...

    B. "He didn't choke Sunday." HAHA - this was awesome. Yes, Phil has come a long way - HE DIDN"T CHOKE!!!! WHOOOHOOOO!!!!

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    B. "He didn't choke Sunday." HAHA - this was awesome. Yes, Phil has come a long way - HE DIDN"T CHOKE!!!! WHOOOHOOOO!!!![/QUOTE]

    Hey at least i can admit that I thought he has choked in the past. And yes, Phil has come a very long way

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred3
    What a bunch of old ladies! Passing the rumors(not one bit of info based on fact in any of these posts) back and forth like a bunch of old biddies. What's really hilarious is people like Floyd xmas and marenuts dis'ing someone for supposedly acting like a turd. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. As bad as they portray someone they've never met they come across as ten times worse. And some of you cretins actually respond and agree with him. Wow! I may try and lambaste someone once in a while, but at least it's based on some stupid act they put on here and not based on rumor and innuendo.

    Even some of you who I thought were fairly intelligent come across as shallow and judgemental without one whit of real proof. Most of you would have been welcomed by the Grand Inquisitor for you ability to condemn by word of mouth alone. Bunch of woosies.

    Rant over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schrup
    Do you fancy yourself a clairvoyant or are you just making asinine assumptions about me? BTW, I'm 41 with a family of four. I don't recall seeing any of Ernie's, Davis's, or Vijay's family members in commercials, can't say the same about Phil. You can't tell me Heftys not pimping his family for cash, you're foolish.

    Tiger Wood's has shown class in the relentless media onslaught about his father's illness. The pre Masters interviews were moronic, they even barraged other players with questions about Earl Woods, STFU already & ask some gold questions.
    My assumptions were based on your post...take that however you want. I'm not even a Phil fan quite frankly...bottomline your statement was lame...you know it...I know it...you act like he has 5 commercials on air right now with different members of his family...it was one bro...with his wife about his Science Charity...let your jealousy and envy go...guaranteed if you were in his shoes you'd be doing the same thing...and with 4 kids I would hope you would be sharing a great achievement like winning the Masters with them...BTW...I am assuming the picture you use for your handle is of yourself...not sure I would be ripping on Phil's appearance with a mug like that...I will however be sure to take your advice and ask more "gold questions" in the future.

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    just like i said before lloyd, straight penis envy.... and i dont know how you get off saying how u can not like ppl youve never met, then use hitler as an example, thats effing retarded, hitler is documented through history of trying to take an entire religious group of people off the earth, its not like phils hurting anyone. retard.... and the kids thing, man, how can you bring that up? he has young kids and theyre all excited, ive done some sweet stuff in sports and my friend's little bro ran over after and that was just a kool feeling on its own having someone lookin up to you like that.... i guess you realize noones every guna love you
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    Quote Originally Posted by samsdad
    My assumptions were based on your post...take that however you want. I'm not even a Phil fan quite frankly...bottomline your statement was lame...you know it...I know it...you act like he has 5 commercials on air right now with different members of his family...it was one bro...with his wife about his Science Charity...let your jealousy and envy go...guaranteed if you were in his shoes you'd be doing the same thing...and with 4 kids I would hope you would be sharing a great achievement like winning the Masters with them...BTW...I am assuming the picture you use for your handle is of yourself...not sure I would be ripping on Phil's appearance with a mug like that...I will however be sure to take your advice and ask more "gold questions" in the future.
    You show a lot of class turning my opinions about Hefty showboating his family into a personal attack on me. Is that the kind of example you set for your son? I live quite comfortable & by no means need or want fame or fortune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duds
    thats funny, Tiger seems awful arrogant to me, and I know there are other sports I could wipe the floor with him.

    Do you watch football at all? quite a few cockey players in the NFL, according to your logic they shouldnt be though.
    Yes duds that is exactly what I am saying. No one need be arrogant wether your the best Q.B, center iceman, golfer, accountant, lawyer, nurse, garbageman, teacher, father, engineer, architect, fireman, bellhop, paperboy, student, brewmaster, hobo, cashier, bus driver, security guard, archer, tank driver, cook, tradesman, mother, bicycle repairman, car wash attendant, rocket scientist, political science major, king of Siam, ...ad infinitum...

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    just like i said before lloyd, straight penis envy.... and i dont know how you get off saying how u can not like ppl youve never met, then use hitler as an example, thats effing retarded, hitler is documented through history of trying to take an entire religious group of people off the earth, its not like phils hurting anyone. retard.... and the kids thing, man, how can you bring that up? he has young kids and theyre all excited, ive done some sweet stuff in sports and my friend's little bro ran over after and that was just a kool feeling on its own having someone lookin up to you like that.... i guess you realize noones every guna love you
    I am sitting here trying to figure out if this is a brilliant farce, or if you are borderline mentally retarded and/or functionally illiterate. Could go either way..we need more evidence. Please post something else.

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    i just want to congratulate lloyd on acheiveing exactly the reactions he wanted from this thread. kinda sad that nobody can see through his little plans, though he's done it so very often in the past. i must however say that many of the people who got in on this are fairly new members. I seem to remember him getting me pretty good a few times back in the day. lol. CONGRATS LLOYD YA GOT WHAT YA WANTED
    All I wanted was to see how many people don't like Phil Mickelson. So yes, I "got what I wanted." Whether you like it or not, a lot of people can't stand this guy. Sorry. Oh, and play on.

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    Name one person who is liked by everyone?

    Judging by how the galleries react to Phil, I'd say he has quite a few fans

    Quote Originally Posted by Lloyd_Christmas3
    All I wanted was to see how many people don't like Phil Mickelson. So yes, I "got what I wanted." Whether you like it or not, a lot of people can't stand this guy. Sorry. Oh, and play on.

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    The big problem with celebrity, in whatever field of endeavour, is the public scrutiny combined with the interpretation of the scrutineer. God knows what we would have made of Ben Hogan had he been a young professional in todays arena. I don't know what things are like in the US but here in the UK we are cursed with this obsession of celebrity watching and speculation. We publish dozens of truly awaful magazines in this country devoted to "celebrities" with trite articles along the lines of "Jennifer Lopez farted in New York yesterday - could she have a secret baked bean addiction"

    Personally I will admire Mickleson's talent and have a sneaking sense of scheidenfreuder (excuse spelling) when he falls on his ass confirming that he like the rest of us is error prone. As for Mickleson the man? Who cares, he will not be coming round my house for dinner any time soon.

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    Fat Phil the FREAK!!

    He is the american monty!!!! Horrible shaped douchebag.
    Hope the draw driver hooks like hell and the fade stick slicing to S@&T for the rest of the season. Especially at the K club!!! Viva Sergio....If only we could get Camillo a Spanish passport.

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    I hope Viva Sergio translates to find a new putter Sergio or he's not going anywhere on the tour.

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    Mikelson is a clown, he's weird, dull, goofy and has a wife with a big fat can. Do you REALLY think a jerk like him would bag a broad like that if it werent for a BIG... WALLET ? She is so damned transparent too with those Eleanor Roosevelt horseteeth and her goofy looking kids with ribbons in their hair like they're some type of royalty..

    He wore a damned football helmet till he was 14 cuz he's such a klutz. No **** !

    I DO hope for bad things to happen to him on the course. I just dont like him and his phoney act of being mr. everything .......FIGJAM !

    He can play golf true, but Terrell Owens can play footballl really good too, SO WHAT ? He still has to look at that goofy face and greasy hair in the morning when he wakes up and shaves. He'll find out there is a LOT more to life than golf and sports.

    I heard him bragging one time about how He HAS NEVER had a job in his life ! Like THATS an accomplishment ? His weight will catch up to him, or his Man Boobs will get him to start wearing a bra soon. Heart attacks for phil soon.

    He's a jerk of epic proportions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Blade
    Mikelson is a clown, he's weird, dull, goofy and has a wife with a big fat can.
    I DO hope for bad things to happen to him on the course. I just dont like him and his phoney act of being mr. everything .......FIGJAM !

    He still has to look at that goofy face and greasy hair in the morning when he wakes up and shaves. His weight will catch up to him, or his Man Boobs will get him to start wearing a bra soon. Heart attacks for phil soon.

    He's a jerk of epic proportions

    Hey Da Blade ... LOL ... stop mincing your words and tell us what you REALLY think!

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    I see that this thread is over 2 years old, but felt inclined to respond. I've been a fan of Phil's since I first saw him play as an amateur. He has one of the most incredible swings the game has ever seen. I don't know him personally, but from what I have seen watching him over the last 15+ years I am willing to bet he is a genuinely good guy. His attitude and demeanor are something I encourage my son to emulate. Personally, I would be mortified if my son tried to emulate someone like Tiger with his fist pumping and his ability to blame every poor shot he has ever made on a photographer, wind, lie, etc. All you haters really need to get a grip.

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    It is a well-known fact that Phil likes to gamble on the golf course. I read (I believe in golf digest) that he was ina practice round with another PGA Tour player and the bet wa something like $1000 a hole with automatic one-down presses. On the 18th green, there was $10,000 on the line. Phil and the other guy looked at eachother, smiled and both said "good" and played out.

    The inferior cequipment comment wa smade off teh cuff and was shortly after Tiger switched to Nike clubs. Nike was fairly new to the club industry at that time, so of course they were alittle behind. Phil was only speaking his mind (though he probably should have kept quiet).

    Finally, I work with a guy who used to be Maryland state police officer. The guy was also assigne dto work the Kemper Open (for security) in Matryland. He got to walk with O'Meara, Mickelson, and some others and I asked him outriight about Phil. Never one to BS, he said Phil was a very nice guy (much friendlier than many others) and was a very sincere man. he knows he is a great golfer but at times seemed almost embarassed by his own ability. He said the Phil you see on TV is pretty accurate and that Phil had no reason to put on a facade at that tournament because many of the other PGA guys were jerks. If Phil was a jerk, it would have shown through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Blade
    Mikelson is a clown, he's weird, dull, goofy and has a wife with a big fat can. Do you REALLY think a jerk like him would bag a broad like that if it werent for a BIG... WALLET ? She is so damned transparent too with those Eleanor Roosevelt horseteeth and her goofy looking kids with ribbons in their hair like they're some type of royalty..

    He wore a damned football helmet till he was 14 cuz he's such a klutz. No **** !

    I DO hope for bad things to happen to him on the course. I just dont like him and his phoney act of being mr. everything .......FIGJAM !

    He can play golf true, but Terrell Owens can play footballl really good too, SO WHAT ? He still has to look at that goofy face and greasy hair in the morning when he wakes up and shaves. He'll find out there is a LOT more to life than golf and sports.

    I heard him bragging one time about how He HAS NEVER had a job in his life ! Like THATS an accomplishment ? His weight will catch up to him, or his Man Boobs will get him to start wearing a bra soon. Heart attacks for phil soon.

    He's a jerk of epic proportions
    This post was one of my all time favourites!

    Thanks for digging this old gem up!
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    Lol.... maaan I thoght I was the only guy who doesnt like phukin phil.... This Guy is yes theee Ultimate Tool job .I didnt talk to him ,but I did sit at a table not too distant from his table at a Lake Nona /Isle Worth dinner and his demeanor while sitting at that table amongst those people was like Look at this South paw jkaz. The way he laughed said hahah im better than you laugh you know how some of those crafty lefty guys act and im sure all you guys have known one coming up in the ranks. Funny thing is he is a righty and can play some darts too. but i dont think ill ever like this guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJW
    .........it would have made my Masters to see Phil hit with lightning from a clear sky.
    After reading the whole thread and having heaps of laughs, I think this comment sums up how I feel about Lefty tittyboy best (where is AJW gone, this post was a killer).

    Apologies for not responding at the time LLoyd, but I wasn't on the forum when this came around. But if you are still taking votes I hated everything about Phil (except his choking in majors) back when this thread was started and nothing he has done since has changed my mind.

    P.S. I wonder what all the "Phil didn't choke" posters would have thought the next major after this thread started

    P.P.S. Anyone who has ever played golf knows that is one of the most friendly, good natured sports going with rarely a harsh word spoken about other golfers. To get a reputation like Phil has from his fellow players speaks volumes for what a jerk he really must be.
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    What's With All The Haters???!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Not a hacker
    To get a reputation like Phil has from his fellow players speaks volumes for what a jerk he really must be.
    And this 'reputation' is based on what? The account from an unnamed reporter who supposedly was told by an unnamed tour player that everyone on tour hates him. All of this coming from an article in GQ magazine? Are you freakin' kidding me? What kind of metrosexual loser gets their 'facts' from GQ, anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by pingman360
    And with all due respect he didnt win the Masters because he cant play.
    Uhhh... He did win The Masters... TWICE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Horseballs
    I wish bad things to happen to him on the golf course. Off the course? I guess I wouldn't care if bad things happened to him...
    Quote Originally Posted by AJW
    ... it would have made my Masters to see Phil hit with lightning from a clear sky.
    Nice, guys. Golf is a gentleman's game and a game of honor. This type of mentality belongs in the UFC or in a game of dodgeball played by 8 year olds. If you really feel this way, you are a moron and have no business playing this great game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Not a hacker
    P.P.S. Anyone who has ever played golf knows that is one of the most friendly, good natured sports going with rarely a harsh word spoken about other golfers. To get a reputation like Phil has from his fellow players speaks volumes for what a jerk he really must be.
    Once again, this 'reputation' is based on hearsay and rumor. I have not heard from any reputable source that any of this is true. BTW, something that your girlfriend's cousin's best friend's roommate who played the Space Coast Tour in the late 80's and still knows a lot of people on tour, does not count as a reputable source.

    Quote Originally Posted by meantime
    Phil is the tours # 1 main man.# 1 who deserves a face punch.Can you beat the fake out of someone? Oh well I figure he's due for a heart attack or diabetic coma soon....
    Geez, this level of hate for someone you don't even know is really disturbing.

    Quote Originally Posted by meantime
    Still hits a ball better than I probably ever will.
    Yeah, no ****...

    Quote Originally Posted by budnc6721
    I don't "hate" him, but I really don't like him as a golf fan. I think he is full of himself.
    Hate to break it to you, but every one of these guys on tour is full of themselves. They have to go out there believing they are the best in the world and that they deserve to win every tournament they enter. Otherwise, they would be crushed by the competition. It just so happens that Phil pretty much is the best in the world, next to Tiger. Somehow that is a negative in your eyes? At least you are not one of the 'haters'.

    Quote Originally Posted by gunning4u
    ...SI is sitting on a story right now cross checking references for accuracy about how Phil has a huge gambling problem and has a jackal and hide personality among other tour pro’s. It sounds like SI's draft makes Phil look real bad but to me its a**-hole journalism just tastless if they run it. However, I can see why people don’t like him. I do agree the whole kids running out to hug him is a little staged and phony.
    OK, it's 2+ years later. I guess they are still sitting on the alleged story. Phil's affinity for gambling has been well documented. However, I don't think it was ever that bad. I mean, the guy made $70+ million last year. I think he can afford to gamble a little bit. You could argue it really is not gambling if you can afford to lose. Unless he is making $10-$20 million dollar wagers, I would not be too concerned. Most of the players on tour gamble in practice rounds. Some play for higher stakes. Big deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boomhauer
    I don't see anything disgraceful about this thread....Phil, in my opinion, acts like a phoney idiot.
    You're right, there is nothing disgraceful about this thread. However, the posts (and posters on this thread) are worse than disgraceful. They are moronic, childish, hateful, and sad. They are everything that the game of golf should not be. You are welcome to your opinion, but what is it based on? Seems like most people that have negative things to say about Phil on this thread have feelings based on rumor, hearsay, and jealousy. Get a life!

    Quote Originally Posted by meantime
    ...He comes across as self absorbed self centered and arrogant...
    I've been watching Phil for over 15 years. I have never seen him come across as self absorbed, self centered, or arrogant. In fact, when he pulls of an incredible shot, he often looks as though he is embarrassed that he pulled it off. It's all in your personal perception, I guess, but Phil has always appeared humble and sincere to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Da Blade
    Mikelson is a clown, he's weird, dull, goofy and has a wife with a big fat can.... I DO hope for bad things to happen to him on the course....He's a jerk of epic proportions
    You are one sad human being. I only hope for the best for you, and I'm sure Phil would to despite your mean spiritedness and hate.

    Quote Originally Posted by GrainFlowForged
    Phil Mickelson...I dont think i hate anyone more than Phil...
    Truly sad. You people really need to get a life...

    Quote Originally Posted by strokeguru
    Lol.... maaan I thoght I was the only guy who doesnt like phukin phil.... This Guy is yes theee Ultimate Tool job .I didnt talk to him ,but I did sit at a table not too distant from his table at a Lake Nona /Isle Worth dinner and his demeanor while sitting at that table amongst those people was like Look at this South paw jkaz. The way he laughed said hahah im better than you laugh you know how some of those crafty lefty guys act and im sure all you guys have known one coming up in the ranks. Funny thing is he is a righty and can play some darts too. but i dont think ill ever like this guy
    So, his laugh (from across the room) came off as him thinking he is better than you, and that makes him a tool. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

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    Wow, koolcat. Your Phil hard on is extremely creepy and unhealthy. At least wear some baggy pants next time.
    Phil is the face of silver spoon entitlement, which doesn't sit well with a lot of people. These are all opinions, yours included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROLLMSTR8
    Phil and his family are wonderful people, They donate winnings to their foundation to help children !! Phil has probably the best short game on tour as Im writing ! I think a lot of you are very jealous people of someone that has the guts to go for a shot thats in is mind. Phil has won and lost a few events with his radical decision making but thats what makes him so unique ! When his putting is on no one can keep up. Pelz has really put Phil back on the top of the Tour Rankings the last 2 years. Phil only seems a little backwards to me thats only because he's a lefty ! A great player with a great attitude !

    BINGO! Jealousy and envy are terrible things especially on a message board and 99% of us would give a testicle to have his life.
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    Silver spoon entitlement? His mom took a job to help pay for his junior golf. Once again, nothing but rumors and misconceptions have shaped people's opinions of a man they don't even know.

    I guess the entire purpose of this post was to rip on Phil and it succeeded. If only there was some substance to people's claims of what a jerk he is.

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    Okay, here goes --

    IF YOU HATE PHIL MICKELSON.

    still not sure what the point was of responding that way. It appears to be some sort of dangling phrase. But never let it be said I can't follow directions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorkman53
    "Jackal and Hide?"
    Try "Jekyll and Hyde"
    Actually, this could be unintentional genius.

    A jackal is a predator that also eats carrion and likes to take what's left after the predator, say a Tiger, eats the best meat.

    And 'hide' is what Phil should do, but doesn't (hence the 'problem') when the press comes to ask him about his stupid decisions on what to bag.

    Jackal and hide could work. :-)

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    Hey KoolCat,

    My comments about his rep were not based on one reporter for one magazine. It's a well known fact that Phil is not well liked in the locker room. Vijay ahs come out numerous times with very thinly veiled dis's of Phil and he doesn't get an invite to Vijay's big yearly party that is one of the social events of the year for players. There is also an Aussie pro over there called Paul Gow who goes on a sports radio show here when he visits in the off season. He has told numerous stories about Phil, none complimentary, and says Phil is the most disliked player in the locker rooms (and that's a big call considering Sergio shares the same locker room). I know you will say Gow is a bum who is jealous of Phil blah blah blah, but Gowie is well known here as a great bloke who loves a beer and a bet and speaks his mind. If all the Phil knockers were just jealous of his money and talent, why is it that Tiger's rep with the same guys who hate Phil is that of a great guy and good company?

    There is no doubt Phil is the second best player in the world and has the natural talent to challenge Tiger if he gets it all together, but that doesn't meant he has to be a good guy. A jerk is still a jerk, no matter how good they can play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a hacker
    Phil is the most disliked player in the locker rooms (and that's a big call considering Sergio shares the same locker room).
    Surely we can all see that Sergio spends lots of time and energy being everyone's buddy... he loves to BS and joke around with the guys... almost to the detriment of his practice and his concentration...

    Seems like Phil is not at risk of any cheery friendly buddy time keeping him from the disciplined stuff... :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveperk
    Surely we can all see that Sergio spends lots of time and energy being everyone's buddy... he loves to BS and joke around with the guys... almost to the detriment of his practice and his concentration...

    Seems like Phil is not at risk of any cheery friendly buddy time keeping him from the disciplined stuff... :-)
    I think the main reason Phil isn't popular is because of his lack of genuineness. On course and in the public eye he is a measured, contrived, cheesy nice guy. There are rumours he used to practice victory speeches in front of a video and critique himself on ways to improve. Away from the cameras in the locker room he's an aloof snob. This type of behaviour would definitely get him offside with Aussie pro's, who are all friendly knockabouts who love a laugh and to get together for bbq's and beers. And nearly every Aussie pro who mentions Phil when interviewed says they don't like his fakeness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daveperk
    Okay, here goes --

    IF YOU HATE PHIL MICKELSON.

    still not sure what the point was of responding that way. It appears to be some sort of dangling phrase. But never let it be said I can't follow directions.

    IF YOU HATE PHIL MICKELSON.

    He did say please.

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