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I Can't Stand It Anymore!!
Everyone else on this site is donning skirts, so I'm getting my skirt ready, too (mine will be a kilt though . . . . . I have to have some dignity and I like Celtic traditions anyway).
I am buying a Cleveland Niblick!!
I'm tired of hitting my chip shots and pitch shots fat. My Mizuno wedge digs into the ground too much and I can't seem to hit a wedge inside 100 yards to save my life. I have practiced and practiced and practiced and I can't seem to find any consistency. I have good feel for distance though and I hit a punch shot real well (from all those practice strokes after driving my tee shots under trees the first 4 years of taking golf seriously.) So, I think I can eliminate some strokes off my game by getting good with the Niblick.
I don't know what loft I will go with yet (Cleveland offers 4 different lofts), but I am almost for certain I will be traveling this road. I will still carry a Vokey sand wedge for greenside bunkers and flop shots though.
OK, go ahead and let me have it, but remember: most of you have gone over to the feminine side of the game yourselves, so don't piss me off!
Mizuno irons -- made by Hattori Hanzo, forged in the fires of Mt. Fujiyama.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
Everyone else on this site is donning skirts, so I'm getting my skirt ready, too (mine will be a kilt though . . . . . I have to have some dignity and I like Celtic traditions anyway).
I am buying a Cleveland Niblick!!
I'm tired of hitting my chip shots and pitch shots fat. My Mizuno wedge digs into the ground too much and I can't seem to hit a wedge inside 100 yards to save my life. I have practiced and practiced and practiced and I can't seem to find any consistency. I have good feel for distance though and I hit a punch shot real well (from all those practice strokes after driving my tee shots under trees the first 4 years of taking golf seriously.) So, I think I can eliminate some strokes off my game by getting good with the Niblick.
I don't know what loft I will go with yet (Cleveland offers 4 different lofts), but I am almost for certain I will be traveling this road. I will still carry a Vokey sand wedge for greenside bunkers and flop shots though.
OK, go ahead and let me have it, but remember: most of you have gone over to the feminine side of the game yourselves, so don't piss me off!
If you dare to bag this sheite in our match, I will mercilessly mock you on video. :-)
Cleveland long clubs
Adams Idea Pro irons
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Originally Posted by daveperkins
If you dare to bag this sheite in our match, I will mercilessly mock you on video. :-)
I'm expecting that anyway, including the ribbing we will get once it is submitted to this forum.
Mizuno irons -- made by Hattori Hanzo, forged in the fires of Mt. Fujiyama.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
I'm expecting that anyway, including the ribbing we will get once it is submitted to this forum.
I'll be the fat one. :-)
If there is, in fact, a hot cart girl with big boobs, I will edit the video to show her exclusively.
And if there is a Segway Paul Blart Golf Cart, we can crash it into a water hazard and make Jackass 3.
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Dare I even say it? Scratch wedges have sole grinds that match your swing type and course conditions......
No.....I won't say it......it might cause too much of a fuss...
The off the shelf Scratch 8620 wedges are only $99 apiece, and you can get them in "Sweeper/Slider, Driver/Slider, or Digger/Driver" sole grinds. I'm a "driver/slider," but you can take the "Get Fit Now" test, and it is highly likely to get you to the right grind to improve your results. Sure, they're not forged, but then again neither are Titleist/Vokeys or Clevelands.
http://www.scratchgolf.com/wedges/8620-milled/
I apologize in advance for the destruction to your thread that some are about to inflict, but that's their choice, not mine.
Seldom right, never in doubt......
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Originally Posted by dorkman53
Dare I even say it? Scratch wedges have sole grinds that match your swing type and course conditions......
No.....I won't say it......it might cause too much of a fuss...
The off the shelf Scratch 8620 wedges are only $99 apiece, and you can get them in "Sweeper/Slider, Driver/Slider, or Digger/Driver" sole grinds. I'm a "driver/slider," but you can take the "Get Fit Now" test, and it is highly likely to get you to the right grind to improve your results. Sure, they're not forged, but then again neither are Titleist/Vokeys or Clevelands.
http://www.scratchgolf.com/wedges/8620-milled/
I apologize in advance for the destruction to your thread that some are about to inflict, but that's their choice, not mine.
I hope he can't bring himself to buy the chipper. I want to see him skull or flub a wedge near a green, so I can steal the on-course patter of my old golfing nemesis in Belgium, the retired State Dept diplomat named Ed who would say whenever I hit a bad shot, "Dave, what were you thinking?!?"
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Vokey and Cleveland wedges
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
I'm expecting that anyway, including the ribbing we will get once it is submitted to this forum.
Of course, I might have to try this thing, this nibble chipper or whatever it is.. and I might like it..
perhaps I can wear a 'skort'.
Cleveland long clubs
Adams Idea Pro irons
Vokey and Cleveland wedges
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Originally Posted by daveperkins
Of course, I might have to try this thing, this nibble chipper or whatever it is.. and I might like it..
perhaps I can wear a 'skort'.
Skorts would be good for you . . . . . . that would save us in case their is a stiff breeze . . . .
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Don't sweat it Sooner. None of us thought you were as manly as you seem to think you are anyhow. If it takes a Niblick to make you realize that you are indeed a fruit-bat, then so be it, the 16 degree Nike thriver was enough for the rest of us.
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ok
that is great !!!
innalin76@yahoo.com
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Sooner, don't ever try to take the moral high ground again.
The views expressed by Not a Hacker are not meant to be understood by you primitive screw heads. Don't take it personally, just sit back and enjoy the writings of your better.
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Originally Posted by Home-slicer
Don't sweat it Sooner. None of us thought you were as manly as you seem to think you are anyhow. If it takes a Niblick to make you realize that you are indeed a fruit-bat, then so be it, the 16 degree Nike thriver was enough for the rest of us.
Isn't our mate Edgey a thriver-swinger? This is not good.
"rule number one.. no poufters!"
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Originally Posted by Not a hacker
Sooner, don't ever try to take the moral high ground again.
I cannot hold up the banner anymore with you playing POS shovels and laying up on par 5s. I'm sorry, I know I have let us down . . . . . . .
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
I cannot hold up the banner anymore with you playing POS shovels and laying up on par 5s. I'm sorry, I know I have let us down . . . . . . .
The thing that surprises me most about all this is that Cleveland would put their name to a monstrosity like this. They have built a rep as an OEM for the purists, but a niblick?
The views expressed by Not a Hacker are not meant to be understood by you primitive screw heads. Don't take it personally, just sit back and enjoy the writings of your better.
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Originally Posted by Home-slicer
Don't sweat it Sooner. None of us thought you were as manly as you seem to think you are anyhow. If it takes a Niblick to make you realize that you are indeed a fruit-bat, then so be it, the 16 degree Nike thriver was enough for the rest of us.
He's right as usual. Your god argument suggested a grounded mind. The Niblick thing doesn't. And btw, some of us haven't sold out. Except for the hybrid.
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Sooner before you waste any money on that piece of junk Niblick why don't you just try a different approach to your short game. Stop trying to use your wedges for all those fancy approaches and just use a stronger lofted club to hit your chips and pitches. Your 8 iron, 9 iron and pitching wedge can get the job done from most situations. Lately I've been using my 9 iron and pitching wedge to hit controlled pitches, chips and approaches from distances where I would normally reach for a wedge and I am having great success. It has allowed me to develop much better feel hitting with a good rhythm and tempo rather than just trying to swing hard with every shot. I think from memory the Niblick comes in about an 8 or 9 iron loft anyway.
Also go and read The Purists coaching tips to Burndog, he gives some great advice on working on the short game. Give this a go before you rush into buying that POS Niblick. You might find that you can resolve your problems whilst maintaining your dignity and keeping your bag a Niblick free zone. I'm sure the Niblick would only be a temporary reprieve anyway. It's not going do anything you can't achieve with an 8 or 9 iron.
You'll also save a little cash as well your GR GFF reputation
Good Luck!
I chose the road less traveled.
Now where the f#ck am I?
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Originally Posted by lorenzoinoc
He's right as usual. Your god argument suggested a grounded mind. The Niblick thing doesn't. And btw, some of us haven't sold out. Except for the hybrid.
I'm going the other way. Not only would I never bag a chipper I'm chucking out the hybrid and putting the 2 iron back in the bag.
Be careful Sooner. It is the thin edge of the wedge (no pun intended). If you go down this road you may well end up with an Edgey type bag. (pre mizzy 68's).
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
Sooner before you waste any money on that piece of junk Niblick why don't you just try a different approach to your short game. Stop trying to use your wedges for all those fancy approaches and just use a stronger lofted club to hit your chips and pitches. Your 8 iron, 9 iron and pitching wedge can get the job done from most situations. Lately I've been using my 9 iron and pitching wedge to hit controlled pitches, chips and approaches from distances where I would normally reach for a wedge and I am having great success. It has allowed me to develop much better feel hitting with a good rhythm and tempo rather than just trying to swing hard with every shot. I think from memory the Niblick comes in about an 8 or 9 iron loft anyway.
Also go and read The Purists coaching tips to Burndog, he gives some great advice on working on the short game. Give this a go before you rush into buying that POS Niblick. You might find that you can resolve your problems whilst maintaining your dignity and keeping your bag a Niblick free zone. I'm sure the Niblick would only be a temporary reprieve anyway. It's not going do anything you can't achieve with an 8 or 9 iron.
You'll also save a little cash as well your GR GFF reputation
Good Luck!
Exactly.
Next the retard will be using a little, gay ass, Red Miata as a golf cart, driving at 90 degree angles to the fairway, with Niblick in tow.
I have a bb gun in my golf bag... when you line it up right and hit the queers in the ass, they jump around like a bee stung them.
Damn faggots.
spank
It's not my fault God made me this beautiful.
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Originally Posted by oldplayer
I'm going the other way. Not only would I never bag a chipper I'm chucking out the hybrid and putting the 2 iron back in the bag.
Be careful Sooner. It is the thin edge of the wedge (no pun intended). If you go down this road you may well end up with an Edgey type bag. (pre mizzy 68's).
Wow. What's brought this on OP?
You hitting those Tour Stage babies so sweet you think a 2 iron will work for you better than the hybrid? Will you be hitting long approaches with it off the deck or using it more as a driving club off the tee?
I chose the road less traveled.
Now where the f#ck am I?
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Sooner
If it will help you to improve your game why not use a Niblick. I have used one (42 Degree) and i found it very effective.
If i had to get another i would thnk about the 37 degree one.
Edgey
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Originally Posted by edgey
Sooner
If it will help you to improve your game why not use a Niblick. I have used one (42 Degree) and i found it very effective.
If i had to get another i would thnk about the 37 degree one.
Edgey
What can you do with a 42* Niblick that you can't do with a 9 iron?
I chose the road less traveled.
Now where the f#ck am I?
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Originally Posted by edgey
Sooner
If it will help you to improve your game why not use a Niblick. I have used one (42 Degree) and i found it very effective.
If i had to get another i would thnk about the 37 degree one.
Edgey
It's not my fault God made me this beautiful.
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
Wow. What's brought this on OP?
You hitting those Tour Stage babies so sweet you think a 2 iron will work for you better than the hybrid? Will you be hitting long approaches with it off the deck or using it more as a driving club off the tee?
The hybrids been pissing me off lately. Goes too high where the wind effects it. I've been hitting the 3 iron really sweetly lately and those long, low running shots with a little fade have been working for me. Thought i might try the same with the 2 iron. Even the short par 4's at our course are usually a 3 wood and the only time I would need anything less is when they are blowing hard downwind. It would be fun to hit the 2 iron again in those circumstances. Maybe I'm just feeling nostalgic but going back to the future seems like a good idea at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
What can you do with a 42* Niblick that you can't do with a 9 iron?
In all fairness, nothing. However it is easier to chip with a niblick because of the putter shaft and lie. As i said elsewhere i now chip around the green with a rescue.
Edgey
WITB Ping K15 Driver, Nike SQ Sumo 16 deg "Thragina", Ping G15 4,5 and 6 hybrid, Callaway BB2002 7-SW, Ping Nome Putter
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
Everyone else on this site is donning skirts, so I'm getting my skirt ready, too (mine will be a kilt though . . . . . I have to have some dignity and I like Celtic traditions anyway).
I am buying a Cleveland Niblick!!
I'm tired of hitting my chip shots and pitch shots fat. My Mizuno wedge digs into the ground too much and I can't seem to hit a wedge inside 100 yards to save my life. I have practiced and practiced and practiced and I can't seem to find any consistency. I have good feel for distance though and I hit a punch shot real well (from all those practice strokes after driving my tee shots under trees the first 4 years of taking golf seriously.) So, I think I can eliminate some strokes off my game by getting good with the Niblick.
I don't know what loft I will go with yet (Cleveland offers 4 different lofts), but I am almost for certain I will be traveling this road. I will still carry a Vokey sand wedge for greenside bunkers and flop shots though.
OK, go ahead and let me have it, but remember: most of you have gone over to the feminine side of the game yourselves, so don't piss me off!
I never thought that I would hear this shìitttt from a Mizuno guys... But then..... OK, listen to me, go buy yourself a brand new $8.95 Lajolla Knife 52* wedge and you WILL be happy the rest of your life
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
What can you do with a 42* Niblick that you can't do with a 9 iron?
the answer seems to be 'hit the ball in the center of the clubface', but perhaps I'm reading too much into it.
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Sooner / Edgey
You both being GR veterans I think demands a little respect. And after what you two tossers are talking about here demands as little respect as possible......I'm just sayin'....I know that's gotta sting a little coming from a denim and saddle shoe wearing American guy but it had to be said......
I hope this helps.....
team obnoxious
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Originally Posted by lorenzoinoc
And btw, some of us haven't sold out. Except for the hybrid.
Zo,
Did you ever hit the evolution or the tour evolution when you got your ZO's? If so what did you think of them?
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
Everyone else on this site is donning skirts, so I'm getting my skirt ready, too (mine will be a kilt though . . . . . I have to have some dignity and I like Celtic traditions anyway).
I am buying a Cleveland Niblick!!
I'm tired of hitting my chip shots and pitch shots fat. My Mizuno wedge digs into the ground too much and I can't seem to hit a wedge inside 100 yards to save my life. I have practiced and practiced and practiced and I can't seem to find any consistency. I have good feel for distance though and I hit a punch shot real well (from all those practice strokes after driving my tee shots under trees the first 4 years of taking golf seriously.) So, I think I can eliminate some strokes off my game by getting good with the Niblick.
I don't know what loft I will go with yet (Cleveland offers 4 different lofts), but I am almost for certain I will be traveling this road. I will still carry a Vokey sand wedge for greenside bunkers and flop shots though.
OK, go ahead and let me have it, but remember: most of you have gone over to the feminine side of the game yourselves, so don't piss me off!
I'd be interested to hear how it works for you. I'm guessing that you'll like it a lot and keep it in the bag. Whatever works to help you score better. I think chipping and pitching are the #1 keys to good scoring so you have my backing on this quest. That's like having the note that was given to Kevin Costner by the drunken captain to get him through indian country in Dances with Wolves.
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Originally Posted by noshuz
Sooner / Edgey
You both being GR veterans I think demands a little respect. And after what you two tossers are talking about here demands as little respect as possible......I'm just sayin'....I know that's gotta sting a little coming from a denim and saddle shoe wearing American guy but it had to be said......
I hope this helps.....
Yeah, it appears we all have our pimples and moles that mar the beauty of a pure golf bag. I stand mostly ashamed in the face of OldPlayer because he, above us all, I hold up as the Sensei of our group.
You gaybrid guys don't take a self-righteous approach with me though because I still pack a 3 and 4 iron in my bag. Gaybrids have already been decided to be proven emasculaters on GR and therefore those who use them are not allowed to toss stones.
Edgey, I'm bidding on a 42 degree at the moment. If I don't win it, I may be forced to buy a brand new one. I will see . . . . .
Kiwi, I have books, videos and tips on the short game at home. I have tried everything and practiced countless hours. It is still inevitable that somewhere (and some times many times on a bad day) I am going to hit a chip or approach shot fat. There is nothing that gives me a sicker feeling in the game of golf than to be so close to the green after a great drive only to hit a bad pitch shot and leave the ball short of the green. My wedge play sucks and is a big reason why I have not broke 80 yet. I have listened to Edgey spout the drivel about "the object of the game is to get the ball in the hole with the least amount of strokes" until it has finally won me over I am afraid (However, I still hold my ground against the sacrilege of forsaking my GFF player's clubs for some POS GI shovels). That the Niblick will eliminate some strokes off my game I have no doubt. Still, there is a sadness in my heart that I cannot use a wedge better than what I do from 100 yards and in. Maybe someday . . . .
In the end, I have deserved the flaming and ridicule I have received in this thread. I stand before my peers ashamed, but unresolved to stick with the wedges.
Mizuno irons -- made by Hattori Hanzo, forged in the fires of Mt. Fujiyama.
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Originally Posted by famousdavis
I'd be interested to hear how it works for you. I'm guessing that you'll like it a lot and keep it in the bag. Whatever works to help you score better. I think chipping and pitching are the #1 keys to good scoring so you have my backing on this quest. That's like having the note that was given to Kevin Costner by the drunken captain to get him through indian country in Dances with Wolves.
Very good analogy . . . .
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
Yeah, it appears we all have our pimples and moles that mar the beauty of a pure golf bag. I stand mostly ashamed in the face of OldPlayer because he, above us all, I hold up as the Sensei of our group.
You gaybrid guys don't take a self-righteous approach with me though because I still pack a 3 and 4 iron in my bag. Gaybrids have already been decided to be proven emasculaters on GR and therefore those who use them are not allowed to toss stones.
Edgey, I'm bidding on a 42 degree at the moment. If I don't win it, I may be forced to buy a brand new one. I will see . . . . .
Kiwi, I have books, videos and tips on the short game at home. I have tried everything and practiced countless hours. It is still inevitable that somewhere (and some times many times on a bad day) I am going to hit a chip or approach shot fat. There is nothing that gives me a sicker feeling in the game of golf than to be so close to the green after a great drive only to hit a bad pitch shot and leave the ball short of the green. My wedge play sucks and is a big reason why I have not broke 80 yet. I have listened to Edgey spout the drivel about "the object of the game is to get the ball in the hole with the least amount of strokes" until it has finally won me over I am afraid (However, I still hold my ground against the sacrilege of forsaking my GFF player's clubs for some POS GI shovels). That the Niblick will eliminate some strokes off my game I have no doubt. Still, there is a sadness in my heart that I cannot use a wedge better than what I do from 100 yards and in. Maybe someday . . . .
In the end, I have deserved the flaming and ridicule I have received in this thread. I stand before my peers ashamed, but unresolved to stick with the wedges.
The GAYBRID myth was debunked. It was the club that took down the greatest ball striker in the world. It took down Tiger as well.
But I am pleased you took the road of humility Sooner. My respect for you is now somewhat reinstated.....
team obnoxious
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Why not just take your 9 iron and play it more with the heel off the ground? You can now use it like a putting stroke and not worry about hitting it heavy.
Check your ball position too, you may have it too far back which is gonna force you to be more steep on it. Contact's gotta be crisp or that leading edge is gonna dig and you'll hit it heavy every time. Why not try and use the bounce of the wedge to chip instead of the leading edge? Much more room for error that way.
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Originally Posted by Mward2002
Why not just take your 9 iron and play it more with the heel off the ground? You can now use it like a putting stroke and not worry about hitting it heavy.
Check your ball position too, you may have it too far back which is gonna force you to be more steep on it. Contact's gotta be crisp or that leading edge is gonna dig and you'll hit it heavy every time. Why not try and use the bounce of the wedge to chip instead of the leading edge? Much more room for error that way.
Also making sure you have most of your weight on your front foot is important.
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Originally Posted by noshuz
The GAYBRID myth was debunked. It was the club that took down the greatest ball striker in the world. It took down Tiger as well.
But I am pleased you took the road of humility Sooner. My respect for you is now somewhat reinstated.....
Whether it has or it hasn't, comparing a Niblick user to a hybrid user is like comparing Richard Simmons to Chuck Norris. Yes, Norris gayed things up with the workout equipment infomercials, showing up with lesser guns than Christie Brinkley, but Richard Simmons just about floats across the sky.
GR lives...
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Originally Posted by lorenzoinoc
Whether it has or it hasn't, comparing a Niblick user to a hybrid user is like comparing Richard Simmons to Chuck Norris. Yes, Norris gayed things up with the workout equipment infomercials, showing up with lesser guns than Christie Brinkley, but Richard Simmons just about floats across the sky.
Come on Zo! That's not a niblick! That's just what they called it. A real Niblick looks just like a real wedge. I've posted pictures of one. That "thing" they're calling a "Niblick" is a "Chipper" plain and simple.
That's like calling a man bra a Bro or Manzeer. It's a bra.....plain and simple.....
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Originally Posted by Home-slicer
Zo,
Did you ever hit the evolution or the tour evolution when you got your ZO's? If so what did you think of them?
I didn't. From what I've heard, they're pretty nice. Something you should check into with KZG-s is bounce. My model is very low bounce which I have to admit isn't their best feature. So it wouldn't encourage hitting down on the ball as much as most irons.
I may have been hitting down on the ball excessively before the ZO-s.
GR lives...
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Originally Posted by noshuz
Come on Zo! That's not a niblick! That's just what they called it. A real Niblick looks just like a real wedge. I've posted pictures of one. That "thing" they're calling a "Niblick" is a "Chipper" plain and simple.
That's like calling a man bra a Bro or Manzeer. It's a bra.....plain and simple.....
Except for your man bra discussion, I think we're saying the same thing.
GR lives...
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Originally Posted by lorenzoinoc
Except for your man bra discussion, I think we're saying the same thing.
Yer right! I had to go back and reread your post. Sorry, I guess I'm feeling a little feisty today!......
Also, I think this pic I got in a recent email scarred me.......
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Don't ever f.ucking try and plant an image like that in our minds again. Mods - this is either a temporary or permanent ban
GR lives...
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Originally Posted by lorenzoinoc
Don't ever f.ucking try and plant an image like that in our minds again. Mods - this is either a temporary or permanent ban
LOL! Yep! Like I said I'm scarred for Life!
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
Everyone else on this site is donning skirts, so I'm getting my skirt ready, too (mine will be a kilt though . . . . . I have to have some dignity and I like Celtic traditions anyway).
I am buying a Cleveland Niblick!!
I'm tired of hitting my chip shots and pitch shots fat. My Mizuno wedge digs into the ground too much and I can't seem to hit a wedge inside 100 yards to save my life. I have practiced and practiced and practiced and I can't seem to find any consistency. I have good feel for distance though and I hit a punch shot real well (from all those practice strokes after driving my tee shots under trees the first 4 years of taking golf seriously.) So, I think I can eliminate some strokes off my game by getting good with the Niblick.
I don't know what loft I will go with yet (Cleveland offers 4 different lofts), but I am almost for certain I will be traveling this road. I will still carry a Vokey sand wedge for greenside bunkers and flop shots though.
OK, go ahead and let me have it, but remember: most of you have gone over to the feminine side of the game yourselves, so don't piss me off!
I still think the best SW and LW are the old Pings. Buy used clubs with those heads and have them reshafted with graphite. You want to feel the clubhead. There is a good reason Mickelson plays those. The grooves on mine are dull, but I don't need to spin the ball backward anyhow. I don't wash the balls either-- so maybe the dirt helps the clubhead grip the ball, ha.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=263602_263622
I think mine have a bigger flare, actually. Maybe someone knows.
Larry
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Originally Posted by Larryrsf
I still think the best SW and LW are the old Pings. Buy used clubs with those heads and have them reshafted with graphite. You want to feel the clubhead. There is a good reason Mickelson plays those. The grooves on mine are dull, but I don't need to spin the ball backward anyhow. I don't wash the balls either-- so maybe the dirt helps the clubhead grip the ball, ha.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=263602_263622
I think mine have a bigger flare, actually. Maybe someone knows.
Larry
Yes, the Ping Eye 2 square groove SW and LW are the best. The SW is 57.7 degrees and the LW is 61 degrees. I have found the the SW is the most versitile club I've ever used. It's very easy to open it up and hit a lob shot and rarely do I hit it fat. Great club.
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Originally Posted by famousdavis
Yes, the Ping Eye 2 square groove SW and LW are the best. The SW is 57.7 degrees and the LW is 61 degrees. I have found the the SW is the most versitile club I've ever used. It's very easy to open it up and hit a lob shot and rarely do I hit it fat. Great club.
Those Ping Eye 2 wedges look just like the Cleveland Niblick. I'm surprised Ping didn't sue Cleveland for breach of copyright when they brought out the Niblick.
I chose the road less traveled.
Now where the f#ck am I?
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
Kiwi, I have books, videos and tips on the short game at home. I have tried everything and practiced countless hours. It is still inevitable that somewhere (and some times many times on a bad day) I am going to hit a chip or approach shot fat. There is nothing that gives me a sicker feeling in the game of golf than to be so close to the green after a great drive only to hit a bad pitch shot and leave the ball short of the green. My wedge play sucks and is a big reason why I have not broke 80 yet. I have listened to Edgey spout the drivel about "the object of the game is to get the ball in the hole with the least amount of strokes" until it has finally won me over I am afraid (However, I still hold my ground against the sacrilege of forsaking my GFF player's clubs for some POS GI shovels). That the Niblick will eliminate some strokes off my game I have no doubt. Still, there is a sadness in my heart that I cannot use a wedge better than what I do from 100 yards and in. Maybe someday . . . .
Ah well I tried to save your soul but to no avail.
I still don't understand how a Niblick can overcome technical shortcomings in your short game but on the other hand, psychologically you seem to see the Niblick as your salvation and are determined to try it so I hope it does. It appears to be just a confidence issue at the moment. Maybe the Niblick will simply restore your confidence.
Good luck with it.
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
Those Ping Eye 2 wedges look just like the Cleveland Niblick. I'm surprised Ping didn't sue Cleveland for breach of copyright when they brought out the Niblick.
Your attempt at humor is similar to a chunked wedge shot...way short of the mark. The Ping Eye 2 SW is a beauty and has yet to be outdone. If you put one in your bag it would not come out.
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Originally Posted by famousdavis
Yes, the Ping Eye 2 square groove SW and LW are the best. The SW is 57.7 degrees and the LW is 61 degrees. I have found the the SW is the most versitile club I've ever used. It's very easy to open it up and hit a lob shot and rarely do I hit it fat. Great club.
If you spend an additional $500 by getting some con artist to give it a "special grind," you'll be in true wedge Nirvana. You'll be hitting all the shots in no time.
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
Those Ping Eye 2 wedges look just like the Cleveland Niblick. I'm surprised Ping didn't sue Cleveland for breach of copyright when they brought out the Niblick.
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Originally Posted by Horseballs
If you spend an additional $500 by getting some con artist to give it a "special grind," you'll be in true wedge Nirvana. You'll be hitting all the shots in no time.
I've already given it the "famous" grind. It's a grind that occurs over time after hitting perfect bunker shots.
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Originally Posted by famousdavis
I've already given it the "famous" grind. It's a grind that occurs over time after hitting perfect bunker shots.
I would try a different grind next time you play Nosh. The last one you used was shite if the result was anything to go buy........
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Originally Posted by noshuz
Yer right! I had to go back and reread your post. Sorry, I guess I'm feeling a little feisty today!......
Also, I think this pic I got in a recent email scarred me.......
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Originally Posted by edgey
I would try a different grind next time you play Nosh. The last one you used was shite if the result was anything to go buy........
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It doesn't work in the rain. OK, seriously, let's end this macho equipment stupidity right now. Let's go back in time for a minute: Clubs used to be made with hickory shafts. I'm sure there were a bunch of pinheads back then that called the use of a steel shaft faggotry. Then came along the sandwedge. I'm sure people back then thought of a sandwedge as pure girlish. Later came along the use of graphite shafts in the driver. I remember when these first came out and people thought it faggoty if you used one. Now, all of you macho dorks talk about your graphite shafts (how they're spined, extra stiff, torque, etc). Next, hybrids come out and you meatheads call them gaybirds. If you don't have at least one hybrid in your bag then you are a chump. No, your a dumbass chump. I don't need to explain why a hybrid can lower your score because if you haven't figured it out by now then you need to finish your special education courses. Now, we have the advanced chipper that Cleveland has cleverly called a niblick. This is a chipper. Most high handicappers would benefit with one of these in the bag. The only problem with them is that they force you to remove another club from your bag. I don't think they benefit the accomplished player.
If you ask me, the gayest club anyone can use is a long putter. I mean, come on, if you can't putt go take up bowling. Don't show up on the course with a garden hoe and expect us not to beat you over the head with it.
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Originally Posted by famousdavis
It doesn't work in the rain. OK, seriously, let's end this macho equipment stupidity right now. Let's go back in time for a minute: Clubs used to be made with hickory shafts. I'm sure there were a bunch of pinheads back then that called the use of a steel shaft faggotry. Then came along the sandwedge. I'm sure people back then thought of a sandwedge as pure girlish. Later came along the use of graphite shafts in the driver. I remember when these first came out and people thought it faggoty if you used one. Now, all of you macho dorks talk about your graphite shafts (how they're spined, extra stiff, torque, etc). Next, hybrids come out and you meatheads call them gaybirds. If you don't have at least one hybrid in your bag then you are a chump. No, your a dumbass chump. I don't need to explain why a hybrid can lower your score because if you haven't figured it out by now then you need to finish your special education courses. Now, we have the advanced chipper that Cleveland has cleverly called a niblick. This is a chipper. Most high handicappers would benefit with one of these in the bag. The only problem with them is that they force you to remove another club from your bag. I don't think they benefit the accomplished player.
If you ask me, the gayest club anyone can use is a long putter. I mean, come on, if you can't putt go take up bowling. Don't show up on the course with a garden hoe and expect us not to beat you over the head with it.
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Here is the problem with using a chipper. The two keys to good chipping are mastering the impact zone (solid, crisp, square contact) and having a good feel for distance control. A guy with a good chipping technique will usually score decently, because even if the rest of their swing is filled with faults (power leaks, compensations, etc), they can always strike the ball decently because of their impact zone technique. If you are having problems with contact while chipping, its only a matter of time before it shows up in your full swing. You can't keep throwing band-aids on all your problems, especially a problem that is so directly related to good iron play.
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Originally Posted by The Purist
Here is the problem with using a chipper. The two keys to good chipping are mastering the impact zone (solid, crisp, square contact) and having a good feel for distance control. A guy with a good chipping technique will usually score decently, because even if the rest of their swing is filled with faults (power leaks, compensations, etc), they can always strike the ball decently because of their impact zone technique. If you are having problems with contact while chipping, its only a matter of time before it shows up in your full swing. You can't keep throwing band-aids on all your problems, especially a problem that is so directly related to good iron play.
This makes no sense at all. You can't in any way equate the full golf swing to chipping. About the only resemblance is that the club hits the ball and that's where it starts and ends.
My swing with the irons has come along way in being more consistent over the last couple of years. I don't have any problems with swinging the irons. In fact, it's not the "full swing" I have trouble with at all, it's whenever I start trying 3/4 swings, 1/2 swings and less that I start having problems. That is why I am struggling inside 100 yards because I don't have an iron I can take a full swing with inside 100 yards and whenever I try to cut down on my swing, I end up drubbing one short of the green usually because I hit it fat.
I hit the the ball fat mostly because I end up digging in too much behind the ball. The Niblick will not allow you to dig in behind the ball, so that problem is eliminated. All I will have to do is just figure out my touch on distances.
I have done the "raise the heel off the ground and chip" routine. That works sometimes on chips, but it can't be used effectively on pitch shots. Also, it is possible to drag the toe of the wedge on those shots and the results are similar to hitting fat.
I have some days, like we all do, where I can't seem to do anything wrong chipping and pitching, but I have more days where this is not true. I'm tired of going out and spending hours practicing only to find that the only thing consistent about my short game is inconsistency.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
This makes no sense at all. You can't in any way equate the full golf swing to chipping. About the only resemblance is that the club hits the ball and that's where it starts and ends.
My swing with the irons has come along way in being more consistent over the last couple of years. I don't have any problems with swinging the irons. In fact, it's not the "full swing" I have trouble with at all, it's whenever I start trying 3/4 swings, 1/2 swings and less that I start having problems. That is why I am struggling inside 100 yards because I don't have an iron I can take a full swing with inside 100 yards and whenever I try to cut down on my swing, I end up drubbing one short of the green usually because I hit it fat.
I hit the the ball fat mostly because I end up digging in too much behind the ball. The Niblick will not allow you to dig in behind the ball, so that problem is eliminated. All I will have to do is just figure out my touch on distances.
I have done the "raise the heel off the ground and chip" routine. That works sometimes on chips, but it can't be used effectively on pitch shots. Also, it is possible to drag the toe of the wedge on those shots and the results are similar to hitting fat.
I have some days, like we all do, where I can't seem to do anything wrong chipping and pitching, but I have more days where this is not true. I'm tired of going out and spending hours practicing only to find that the only thing consistent about my short game is inconsistency.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
This makes no sense at all. You can't in any way equate the full golf swing to chipping. About the only resemblance is that the club hits the ball and that's where it starts and ends.
My swing with the irons has come along way in being more consistent over the last couple of years. I don't have any problems with swinging the irons. In fact, it's not the "full swing" I have trouble with at all, it's whenever I start trying 3/4 swings, 1/2 swings and less that I start having problems. That is why I am struggling inside 100 yards because I don't have an iron I can take a full swing with inside 100 yards and whenever I try to cut down on my swing, I end up drubbing one short of the green usually because I hit it fat.
I hit the the ball fat mostly because I end up digging in too much behind the ball. The Niblick will not allow you to dig in behind the ball, so that problem is eliminated. All I will have to do is just figure out my touch on distances.
I have done the "raise the heel off the ground and chip" routine. That works sometimes on chips, but it can't be used effectively on pitch shots. Also, it is possible to drag the toe of the wedge on those shots and the results are similar to hitting fat.
I have some days, like we all do, where I can't seem to do anything wrong chipping and pitching, but I have more days where this is not true. I'm tired of going out and spending hours practicing only to find that the only thing consistent about my short game is inconsistency.
I think I have to go with TP on this Sooner. The full swing and chipping are obviously different, but to be a good chipper you must get good contact, which involves timing and feel through the hands and finding the middle of the sweet spot. To get consistent flush contact on chips requires hand eye co-ordination and talent. These attributes are also required for good impact in a full swing.
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Originally Posted by Not a hacker
I think I have to go with TP on this Sooner. The full swing and chipping are obviously different, but to be a good chipper you must get good contact, which involves timing and feel through the hands and finding the middle of the sweet spot. To get consistent flush contact on chips requires hand eye co-ordination and talent. These attributes are also required for good impact in a full swing.
I don't have that much trouble with the full swing, but I admit, my hand to eye coordination is not as good as most. Remember, it was only a couple of years ago that I was golfing the 90s. I've worked at my game and brought the score down into the lower 80s, but I might be looking at the fact that this is as good as it is going to get without some help. If the Niblick can knock a couple of strokes off my game and make it a bit easier to get up and down on holes, it will be well worth all the abuse I will take for it in here.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
I don't have that much trouble with the full swing, but I admit, my hand to eye coordination is not as good as most. Remember, it was only a couple of years ago that I was golfing the 90s. I've worked at my game and brought the score down into the lower 80s, but I might be looking at the fact that this is as good as it is going to get without some help. If the Niblick can knock a couple of strokes off my game and make it a bit easier to get up and down on holes, it will be well worth all the abuse I will take for it in here.
I think the benefit of the niblick is that you can use a putting stroke to get the desired result. I can't help but think it would improve your chipping. I've wanted to try one but it's one of those clubs that you need to use for awhile before you become efficient with it.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
I don't have that much trouble with the full swing, but I admit, my hand to eye coordination is not as good as most. Remember, it was only a couple of years ago that I was golfing the 90s. I've worked at my game and brought the score down into the lower 80s, but I might be looking at the fact that this is as good as it is going to get without some help. If the Niblick can knock a couple of strokes off my game and make it a bit easier to get up and down on holes, it will be well worth all the abuse I will take for it in here.
It's worth a shot. But IMO, the people who benefit the most from these chippers are guys who have had the chipping yips and just flat out can't make a stroke with a normal golf club. I still think for you practice and experimentation with lower lofted clubs around the green woudl do the trick.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
I don't have that much trouble with the full swing, but I admit, my hand to eye coordination is not as good as most. Remember, it was only a couple of years ago that I was golfing the 90s. I've worked at my game and brought the score down into the lower 80s, but I might be looking at the fact that this is as good as it is going to get without some help. If the Niblick can knock a couple of strokes off my game and make it a bit easier to get up and down on holes, it will be well worth all the abuse I will take for it in here.
How is thing supposed to work for say a 80 yard shot? Will it carry or do you bump and run it.? I just can't picture how this thing is supposed to work outside 10 yards with a putter shaft. and what club would you take out of the bag?
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Originally Posted by Home-slicer
How is thing supposed to work for say a 80 yard shot? Will it carry or do you bump and run it.? I just can't picture how this thing is supposed to work outside 10 yards with a putter shaft. and what club would you take out of the bag?
I am assuming you bump and run it, which has been my stand-by shot anyway. I would take the 52* and 58* out of the bag and leave the PW and SW.
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Originally Posted by Not a hacker
I think I have to go with TP on this Sooner. The full swing and chipping are obviously different, but to be a good chipper you must get good contact, which involves timing and feel through the hands and finding the middle of the sweet spot. To get consistent flush contact on chips requires hand eye co-ordination and talent. These attributes are also required for good impact in a full swing.
I'll vote for TP on this as well. Sorry sooner. It's my observation that a solid sound swing works equally well on a 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 swing. Proper technique is proper technique the length of your back should have little to do with your ability to make a solid descending strike.
Now if your talking working magic with the wedge you're talking a different animal. Like hitting many different trajectories, spins, no spins, etc takes many hours of practice but it's still based on solid swing fundamentals.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
I am assuming you bump and run it, which has been my stand-by shot anyway. I would take the 52* and 58* out of the bag and leave the PW and SW.
Um, believe it or not this site is called GolfReview.com. Perhaps you could read some of the reviews and see what kind of shots people are using with the club. BTW...don't forget to keep the headcover on it. Sooner, you've got to get yourself a Ping Eye 2 SW. Heck, just get the whole set. This would be like Annikan Skywalker switching to the darkside.
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A used 42* Niblick in good shape has been secured for $53.00 and should be arriving in 2 days. The journey to break 80 continues . . . . . . . and, so does club hoeing.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
I don't have that much trouble with the full swing, but I admit, my hand to eye coordination is not as good as most. Remember, it was only a couple of years ago that I was golfing the 90s. I've worked at my game and brought the score down into the lower 80s, but I might be looking at the fact that this is as good as it is going to get without some help. If the Niblick can knock a couple of strokes off my game and make it a bit easier to get up and down on holes, it will be well worth all the abuse I will take for it in here.
All kidding a side Sooner. If it makes you score better than by all means do it. Hell I'd use a mortar launcher for my drives if it was legal. I know you've gotten a ton of good advise today but it hard to give anything but general tips without seeing a video. It's pretty easy even for a good amateur that knows how to chip to see what you're doing wrong. My most common mistake is lifting my head. Wanting to see the result rather than the execution.
Anyway, sorry for all the shite today. You know I kid. If I could take it all back I would.......And then do it all over again!
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Originally Posted by noshuz
All kidding a side Sooner. If it makes you score better than by all means do it. Hell I'd use a mortar launcher for my drives if it was legal. I know you've gotten a ton of good advise today but it hard to give anything but general tips without seeing a video. It's pretty easy even for a good amateur that knows how to chip to see what you're doing wrong. My most common mistake is lifting my head. Wanting to see the result rather than the execution.
Anyway, sorry for all the shite today. You know I kid. If I could take it all back I would.......And then do it all over again!
It's a b!tchmove to apologize for anything posted on GR. I give out a lot more than I take around here I knew I this one was coming.
I'm trying to eliminate the possibility of a few bad strokes. This may work and it may not. I have to try it though . . . . .
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On another note, some one mentioned chipping with a hybrid today. Something I've never tried and should. Is that something done in place of a wedge shot or as another option? I've heard of the 3 wood chip but never liked the idea beacuse of the shaft being so long.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
It's a b!tchmove to apologize for anything posted on GR. I give out a lot more than I take around here I knew I this one was coming.
I'm trying to eliminate the possibility of a few bad strokes. This may work and it may not. I have to try it though . . . . .
It's not a b!tch move to say sorry and wish you could do it over again.....
And you call yourself a veteran.......
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
A used 42* Niblick in good shape has been secured for $53.00 and should be arriving in 2 days. The journey to break 80 continues . . . . . . . and, so does club hoeing.
What we have here is a paradox. Hence forth known as Sooner's Paradox. Mizzy's and a niblick in the same bag.
BTW has Oklahoma switched from a red state to a blue state while I have been away.
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I think you should sacrafice scoring for appearances maybe get a vanity cap too. To h ell with trying anything new.
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Originally Posted by noshuz
On another note, some one mentioned chipping with a hybrid today. Something I've never tried and should. Is that something done in place of a wedge shot or as another option? I've heard of the 3 wood chip but never liked the idea beacuse of the shaft being so long.
It's similar to the 3w chip but the hybrid should have a slightly shorter shaft. If I use the hybrid or 3w I grip way down on the club and play the ball like i'm using a putter. There's not little hinging of the wrist so the length isn't much of a problem.
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Originally Posted by noshuz
Yer right! I had to go back and reread your post. Sorry, I guess I'm feeling a little feisty today!......
Also, I think this pic I got in a recent email scarred me.......
Your a sick mother f uc ker to keep shite like that on your hard drive.
Well a least is he wearing blue jeans and saddle shoes.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
A used 42* Niblick in good shape has been secured for $53.00 and should be arriving in 2 days. The journey to break 80 continues . . . . . . . and, so does club hoeing.
Why did you go for the 42 degree Sooner?
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Originally Posted by edgey
Why did you go for the 42 degree Sooner?
Edgey
A bit of a Hobson's choice I suspect i.e. the first one that was available cheap on E-Bay.
I chose the road less traveled.
Now where the f#ck am I?
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
A bit of a Hobson's choice I suspect i.e. the first one that was available cheap on E-Bay.
They dont come up on e bay second hand very often. I would like to think its becasue they are so good people dont sell them. It could of course be they are so shite no one buys them i suppose.
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Originally Posted by edgey
They dont come up on e bay second hand very often. I would like to think its becasue they are so good people dont sell them. It could of course be they are so shite no one buys them i suppose.
Edgey
Either way Sooner sounds desperate to get one in the bag ASAP so no way he was waiting around to ponder his options.
I chose the road less traveled.
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Originally Posted by edgey
They dont come up on e bay second hand very often. I would like to think its becasue they are so good people dont sell them. It could of course be they are so shite no one buys them i suppose.
Edgey
I've noticed that all the things I've offloaded but wish I didn't never come up for sale on ebay. If something rarely comes up for sale it's because it's so good people don't want to sell them.
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Originally Posted by Not a hacker
I've noticed that all the things I've offloaded but wish I didn't never come up for sale on ebay. If something rarely comes up for sale it's because it's so good people don't want to sell them.
In the case of a Niblick though I'd guess that 99% of the golfers that buy them realise immediately what a waste of money POS they have bought but are too embarrassed to even try and sell it.
I chose the road less traveled.
Now where the f#ck am I?
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My golfing buddies tell me I have a good short game and i do make a lot up up and downs playing various types of shots with wedges. I have one golden rule for chipping around the greens. NEVER let the clubhead pass your hands. This technique alone gives me good contact and distance control.
I hope the chipper works Sooner but your problems with chipping may be easier to fix than you think if you employ the right techiques.
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
In the case of a Niblick though I'd guess that 99% of the golfers that buy them realise immediately what a waste of money POS they have bought but are too embarrassed to even try and sell it.
Fair call, particularly if they have ever dropped by here.
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Originally Posted by edgey
Why did you go for the 42 degree Sooner?
Edgey
Because, as Kiwi said, it was available for a good price on Ebay. Also, Edgey, if it works out for me and I like it a lot, I could very easily see myself purchasing their newest loft -- a 56* Niblick . . . . .
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Originally Posted by oldplayer
My golfing buddies tell me I have a good short game and i do make a lot up up and downs playing various types of shots with wedges. I have one golden rule for chipping around the greens. NEVER let the clubhead pass your hands. This technique alone gives me good contact and distance control.
I hope the chipper works Sooner but your problems with chipping may be easier to fix than you think if you employ the right techiques.
Exactly OP. Sooner, do you get Netflix? If so, get the Phil Michelson short game dvd. He really does well with this video with his "Hinge and hold" technique. It's really quite basic the things he shows. I know you're not Phil fan but he does this well and it's not like you have to go out and buy the video.....
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Originally Posted by oldplayer
My golfing buddies tell me I have a good short game and i do make a lot up up and downs playing various types of shots with wedges. I have one golden rule for chipping around the greens. NEVER let the clubhead pass your hands. This technique alone gives me good contact and distance control.
I hope the chipper works Sooner but your problems with chipping may be easier to fix than you think if you employ the right techiques.
OP, this game has not come real fast to me, I have had to work for every last bit of improvement. Basketball, Baseball and Football all came naturally to me in my younger days and I received a lot of honors playing those sports, but golf has been difficult (even in baseball my honors and only college scholarship came to me through my pitching abilities, not my my hitting abilities that requires good hand to eye coordination.)
A year and a half ago, whenever I bought the MP-52s, was the biggest breakthrough I have made yet in the game of golf as in 8 months time I literally knocked 10 strokes off my game. But, that mostly came through iron play and becoming a bit more consistent with my driver. My short game, however, has always been questionable.
I have bought books and videos on the short game and tried to imitate everything I read and saw, but it just hasn't amounted to a consistent short game. I have practiced keeping my hands ahead of the clubhead, but a person still has to drop the clubface down on the ball at just the right time to secure a clean crisp hit on the ball. Plus, we have to do it with just the right touch as well. The short game is the hardest to master because of all the intricate variables that go into it. I think we would all agree with that. I just haven't mastered it yet and I am getting nowhere with traditional techniques right now. I am looking for a shortcut, I know, but I'm a bit desperate at this point in my game as it is frustrating to practice so hard and just hover above the 80 mark.
I have guys I golf with that can be a few yards off the green and can clip their pitch or chip about 3 feet away from the pin and stop the ball on a dime. I can't do that at all no matter how hard I try. I have always been better at the "bump and run" style of play which the Niblick tends to produce. So, my initial thinking is that it is a club that can used easily by my skills and improve my game. I have to see . . . .
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Sooner, you are probably taking too long of a swing if you are hitting the 3/4 and 1/2 shots fat. This had been my problem.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
OP, this game has not come real fast to me, I have had to work for every last bit of improvement. Basketball, Baseball and Football all came naturally to me in my younger days and I received a lot of honors playing those sports, but golf has been difficult (even in baseball my honors and only college scholarship came to me through my pitching abilities, not my my hitting abilities that requires good hand to eye coordination.)
A year and a half ago, whenever I bought the MP-52s, was the biggest breakthrough I have made yet in the game of golf as in 8 months time I literally knocked 10 strokes off my game. But, that mostly came through iron play and becoming a bit more consistent with my driver. My short game, however, has always been questionable.
I have bought books and videos on the short game and tried to imitate everything I read and saw, but it just hasn't amounted to a consistent short game. I have practiced keeping my hands ahead of the clubhead, but a person still has to drop the clubface down on the ball at just the right time to secure a clean crisp hit on the ball. Plus, we have to do it with just the right touch as well. The short game is the hardest to master because of all the intricate variables that go into it. I think we would all agree with that. I just haven't mastered it yet and I am getting nowhere with traditional techniques right now. I am looking for a shortcut, I know, but I'm a bit desperate at this point in my game as it is frustrating to practice so hard and just hover above the 80 mark. Alot of people would kill to do this.
I have guys I golf with that can be a few yards off the green and can clip their pitch or chip about 3 feet away from the pin and stop the ball on a dime.
Bump and run is much easier and the go to shot for me. You just have to figure out the result you're going to get with each club. ie: 54*will give me about 50%flight/50%run, 45*-30%flight/70%run. etc...
I can't do that at all no matter how hard I try. I have always been better at the "bump and run" style of play which the Niblick tends to produce. So, my initial thinking is that it is a club that can used easily by my skills and improve my game. I have to see . . . .
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WITB: Hybrids. The ones that took FamousDavis down......
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
Because, as Kiwi said, it was available for a good price on Ebay. Also, Edgey, if it works out for me and I like it a lot, I could very easily see myself purchasing their newest loft -- a 56* Niblick . . . . .
Sooner,
Shouldn't you consider replacing all of your irons with some wide sole clubs? I'm concerned for you. If you grow accustom to the bounce the size of texas on the nibi's your surely going to dig those tour style blades into the ground. (Not to mention that some Omen style mizzy loving freak might break your nibi over your head and steal your blades to set an example.)
While you're at it you should get yourself the following to complete your pu$$ed out bag:
1) 54" mallet putter
2) hybrids to replace your 3, 4, & 5 irons toe weighted draw biased
3) Thriver - scratch that you have one!
4) chipper
5) iron head covers
6) staff bag
7) hat clip ball marker
8) panties
These should all be in the same brand and you'll need to clean them nightly. This should lower your score at least 4 strokes. Or you could just go take a lesson and figure out how to swing the club on plane with proper technique so you don't stub this short pitches/chips.
BTW - if you bag this POS you lose all right to give any other person sh!t about their clubs.
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Originally Posted by poe4soul
Sooner,
Shouldn't you consider replacing all of your irons with some wide sole clubs? I'm concerned for you. If you grow accustom to the bounce the size of texas on the nibi's your surely going to dig those tour style blades into the ground. (Not to mention that some Omen style mizzy loving freak might break your nibi over your head and steal your blades to set an example.)
While you're at it you should get yourself the following to complete your pu$$ed out bag:
1) 54" mallet putter
2) hybrids to replace your 3, 4, & 5 irons toe weighted draw biased
3) Thriver - scratch that you have one!
4) chipper
5) iron head covers
6) staff bag
7) hat clip ball marker
8) panties
These should all be in the same brand and you'll need to clean them nightly. This should lower your score at least 4 strokes. Or you could just go take a lesson and figure out how to swing the club on plane with proper technique so you don't stub this short pitches/chips.
BTW - if you bag this POS you lose all right to give any other person sh!t about their clubs.
I haven't noticed where bagging gaybrids and chopper irons have stopped any of you from handing out shite, so likely it will not stop me either. Nice flame though . . . .
Mizuno irons -- made by Hattori Hanzo, forged in the fires of Mt. Fujiyama.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
I haven't noticed where bagging gaybrids and chopper irons have stopped any of you from handing out shite, so likely it will not stop me either. Nice flame though . . . .
I bag 3-pw 735cm's and one hybrid which is a 5w equivalent. Last time I checked GR found this was admissible. The 735's are far from a paddle. BTW - My set on order, for over 7 weeks now, f'ing titleist, is a 3-6 CB and 7-PW in MB all in KBS tour x-stiff. Not exactly a paddle like the club your going to bag. My wedges are all blades, from pw to the 58*.
I could care less about what clubs you play sooner but you do your fair share of flaming about others clubs.
In all honestly though you're putting a band aid on a flawed swing with this pos club. you would be better off saving your money and using it to get a lesson.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
OP, this game has not come real fast to me, I have had to work for every last bit of improvement. Basketball, Baseball and Football all came naturally to me in my younger days and I received a lot of honors playing those sports, but golf has been difficult (even in baseball my honors and only college scholarship came to me through my pitching abilities, not my my hitting abilities that requires good hand to eye coordination.)
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It's a statistical improbability that 90% of the Americans I've met are way better than average at sports, in fact most should have been pros.
GR lives...
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Originally Posted by poe4soul
I bag 3-pw 735cm's and one hybrid which is a 5w equivalent. Last time I checked GR found this was admissible. The 735's are far from a paddle. BTW - My set on order, for over 7 weeks now, f'ing titleist, is a 3-6 CB and 7-PW in MB all in KBS tour x-stiff. Not exactly a paddle like the club your going to bag. My wedges are all blades, from pw to the 58*.
I could care less about what clubs you play sooner but you do your fair share of flaming about others clubs.
In all honestly though you're putting a band aid on a flawed swing with this pos club. you would be better off saving your money and using it to get a lesson.
Those are great irons, I had a chance to hit a set last week. I also demoed the CB's and was extremely impressed. Both the MB and CB aren't just another set of irons. Tough luck for Titleist that they're introducing these into a recession because in average times they'd have sold pretty well.
I'm never getting rid of my KZG-s, but when I do I might pick up a set of either the MB or CB with KBS tours.
GR lives...
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
Because, as Kiwi said, it was available for a good price on Ebay. Also, Edgey, if it works out for me and I like it a lot, I could very easily see myself purchasing their newest loft -- a 56* Niblick . . . . .
Snowplow on a stick.
Cleveland long clubs
Adams Idea Pro irons
Vokey and Cleveland wedges
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Originally Posted by lorenzoinoc
It's a statistical improbability that 90% of the Americans I've met are way better than average at sports, in fact most should have been pros.
I should have been a tackling dummy on the practice field of an NCAA school, division II at least.
Cleveland long clubs
Adams Idea Pro irons
Vokey and Cleveland wedges
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
OP, this game has not come real fast to me, I have had to work for every last bit of improvement. Basketball, Baseball and Football all came naturally to me in my younger days and I received a lot of honors playing those sports, but golf has been difficult (even in baseball my honors and only college scholarship came to me through my pitching abilities, not my my hitting abilities that requires good hand to eye coordination.)
A year and a half ago, whenever I bought the MP-52s, was the biggest breakthrough I have made yet in the game of golf as in 8 months time I literally knocked 10 strokes off my game. But, that mostly came through iron play and becoming a bit more consistent with my driver. My short game, however, has always been questionable.
I have bought books and videos on the short game and tried to imitate everything I read and saw, but it just hasn't amounted to a consistent short game. I have practiced keeping my hands ahead of the clubhead, but a person still has to drop the clubface down on the ball at just the right time to secure a clean crisp hit on the ball. Plus, we have to do it with just the right touch as well. The short game is the hardest to master because of all the intricate variables that go into it. I think we would all agree with that. I just haven't mastered it yet and I am getting nowhere with traditional techniques right now. I am looking for a shortcut, I know, but I'm a bit desperate at this point in my game as it is frustrating to practice so hard and just hover above the 80 mark.
I have guys I golf with that can be a few yards off the green and can clip their pitch or chip about 3 feet away from the pin and stop the ball on a dime. I can't do that at all no matter how hard I try. I have always been better at the "bump and run" style of play which the Niblick tends to produce. So, my initial thinking is that it is a club that can used easily by my skills and improve my game. I have to see . . . .
It sounds to me that your might be to armsy. Maybe try to focus on rotating your shoulders with your hands pressed forward and your weight on your front foot. Try just hitting balls without hinging the wrist much.
Here's a youtube video that was posted on golfrewound that I found help me with my turn especially with chipping. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrKDbhC6lVg Basically it's relating the shoulder turn to drawing a bow. If you think I'm on to something here try chipping holdin two tees under your arms in your pits.
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Originally Posted by poe4soul
I bag 3-pw 735cm's and one hybrid which is a 5w equivalent. Last time I checked GR found this was admissible. The 735's are far from a paddle. BTW - My set on order, for over 7 weeks now, f'ing titleist, is a 3-6 CB and 7-PW in MB all in KBS tour x-stiff. Not exactly a paddle like the club your going to bag. My wedges are all blades, from pw to the 58*.
I could care less about what clubs you play sooner but you do your fair share of flaming about others clubs.
In all honestly though you're putting a band aid on a flawed swing with this pos club. you would be better off saving your money and using it to get a lesson.
Titleist products are on the non-permissible list here at GR, so technically you are trekking forbidden ground as well. Sorry to have to bring this up but while everybody is playing the tea kettle and calling the pot black, I might as well be the one.
Last edited by SoonerBS; 03-30-2010 at 09:46 AM.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
Titleist products are on the non-permissible list here at GR, so technically you are trekking forbidden ground as well. Sorry to have to bring this up by while everybody is playing the tea kettle and calling the pot black, I might as well be the one.
That's unfair. The Titleist 735 CM are great clubs and don't have all the bells and whistles like the AP2. I've been thinking of buying a used set of 735's. It's a forged blade with very little perimeter weighting. Same size as a blade with little offset. One of the best feeling that I've tried.
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Originally Posted by poe4soul
It sounds to me that your might be to armsy. Maybe try to focus on rotating your shoulders with your hands pressed forward and your weight on your front foot. Try just hitting balls without hinging the wrist much.
Here's a youtube video that was posted on golfrewound that I found help me with my turn especially with chipping. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrKDbhC6lVg Basically it's relating the shoulder turn to drawing a bow. If you think I'm on to something here try chipping holdin two tees under your arms in your pits.
I try to do that everytime and I know that is the proper form, it's just that sometimes I get it done and sometimes I don't. I want to hit the ball crisp EVERY DAMN TIME not just most of the time or some of the time. I went out over lunch and hit some pitch shots and chips (about 140 balls in all) and was hitting everything perfect. I'm bumfuzzled. It didn't make any difference if I was hitting with the 9 iron, PW or the SW, every thing was going right where I wanted it to go and the right distance.
I'm beginning to think that maybe I have a "concentration" problem . . . . . . my frustration with the game continues.
I'm not one to go out to the range, hit 'em great, and then come back and post about how I have it all figured out. I suspect that the next time I golf a round that it will not be as perfect as I remember it on the range. It should be though, shouldn't it? Why is it that we can be professionals on the range and go out and be hackers in regular play? I should be able to hit every pitch and chip just as crisp on the course as what I hit them on the range. I don't get it.
Mizuno irons -- made by Hattori Hanzo, forged in the fires of Mt. Fujiyama.
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Originally Posted by poe4soul
It sounds to me that your might be to armsy. Maybe try to focus on rotating your shoulders with your hands pressed forward and your weight on your front foot. Try just hitting balls without hinging the wrist much.
Here's a youtube video that was posted on golfrewound that I found help me with my turn especially with chipping. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrKDbhC6lVg Basically it's relating the shoulder turn to drawing a bow. If you think I'm on to something here try chipping holdin two tees under your arms in your pits.
Exactly what I was thinking. Sooner you often talk about focusing on keeping your left arm straight. Whilst that probably works well in the full swing when you try to shorten the swing to chip or pitch you probably just fold your left arm across your chest and swing with your arms rather than turning and swinging with your entire upper body.
Either way your issues don't sound like something that can be miraculously cured by a Niblick.
I chose the road less traveled.
Now where the f#ck am I?
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
Exactly what I was thinking. Sooner you often talk about focusing on keeping your left arm straight. Whilst that probably works well in the full swing when you try to shorten the swing to chip or pitch you probably just fold your left arm across your chest and swinging with your arms rather than turning and swinging with your entire upper body.
Either way your issues don't sound like something that can be miraculously cured by a Niblick.
Try the ol' head cover under the armpits drill...
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WITB: Hybrids. The ones that took FamousDavis down......
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
I try to do that everytime and I know that is the proper form, it's just that sometimes I get it done and sometimes I don't. I want to hit the ball crisp EVERY DAMN TIME not just most of the time or some of the time. I went out over lunch and hit some pitch shots and chips (about 140 balls in all) and was hitting everything perfect. I'm bumfuzzled. It didn't make any difference if I was hitting with the 9 iron, PW or the SW, every thing was going right where I wanted it to go and the right distance.
I'm beginning to think that maybe I have a "concentration" problem . . . . . . my frustration with the game continues.
I'm not one to go out to the range, hit 'em great, and then come back and post about how I have it all figured out. I suspect that the next time I golf a round that it will not be as perfect as I remember it on the range. It should be though, shouldn't it? Why is it that we can be professionals on the range and go out and be hackers in regular play? I should be able to hit every pitch and chip just as crisp on the course as what I hit them on the range. I don't get it.
Just go and repeat that range session until you build some confidence in your chipping and pitching. Then take that confidence onto the course with you next time you play.
I chose the road less traveled.
Now where the f#ck am I?
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Player
Exactly what I was thinking. Sooner you often talk about focusing on keeping your left arm straight. Whilst that probably works well in the full swing when you try to shorten the swing to chip or pitch you probably just fold your left arm across your chest and swing with your arms rather than turning and swinging with your entire upper body.
Either way your issues don't sound like something that can be miraculously cured by a Niblick.
I have no doubt that I sometimes get too armsy. I think this is because of a lack of concentration. I have caught myself sometimes getting too lax in my "body turn." I need to focus on doing it more often.
I know that today I was really working on turning the body and not allowing the clubface to get ahead of the hands and it was working well. But, like I said previously, I was really CONCENTRATING on these things. If I could only concentrate that well in a round, while not losing focus on all the other parts of my game, I could do well. I really wish it would all come natural without all the concentrating. Concentrating makes my head hurt . . . . .
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