Ray Cook Classic Plus II. 8802 look with a sort of dull bronze finish with two large brass circular weights in the sole at the heel and toe. Its original shaft broke and I put a True Temper steel straight shaft on it, cut it to 35", and put a Winn midsize pistol grip on it that is black with gray stripes. The original putter cost around $16 used at the Golf Galaxy which also supplied the putter shaft for about $9 and the grip for around $7. It is a real smooth stick that rolls the ball well and has a bit of loft so I can do the Phil/Stockton forward press on slick surfaces or come through level on lesser surfaces.
I will not consider Wilson 8802, Macgregor or Palmer putters. The reason is because I don't want to.
For a spash of realism, I suggest you and most here spend the money on lessons. Tell the pro you're ready for blades and that you serious think the type of irons you play will lower your average scores. I suspect the pro will say, "ok, I can help you decide which irons you need, but first, lets see your swing." We both know happens next. 30 minutes later you will NOT be thinking about clubs but about the MAJOR swing changes you need to make and scheduling your next lesson.
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For a spash of realism, I suggest you and most here spend the money on lessons. Tell the pro you're ready for blades and that you serious think the type of irons you play will lower your average scores. I suspect the pro will say, "ok, I can help you decide which irons you need, but first, lets see your swing." We both know happens next. 30 minutes later you will NOT be thinking about clubs but about the MAJOR swing changes you need to make and scheduling your next lesson.
Forget blades, get a Ray Cook mallet. Billy Casper and Raymond Floyd both won the Masters with them.
My other putter is a Ray Cook mallet. The M-1. Nice heavy small head in sort of a U-235 looking finish. I like the name because it reminds me of both one of my favorite rifles and a very good tank. And, best of all, my absolute favorite vehicle of either two or four wheels made by Bavarian Motor Works. I customized my Ray Cook M-1 with an Aldila graphite iron shaft cut to play 33". I filled the shaft with sand and stuck a black and white checked putter grip, pistol grip style, on the end with some lead weight at the butt end of the shaft. It is a short but heavy putter that has some nifty shaft flex. It is my pop-putter for when I feel the need to go Retro in my putting that day a la Bobby Locke and all the big pros who played in the '50's on those slow greens you see on the old TV black and white films of the Masters and Shell Wonderful World of Golf.
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I'm considering the following:
Ping Tess
Yes Sophia
Yes Nicky
Lynx Blade Putter w/ no offset. Golfsmith $49
Odyssey Tour Black Blade Putter
I will not consider Wilson 8802, Macgregor or Palmer putters. The reason is because I don't want to.
My Sophia came in yesterday. Gorgeous, great weighty feel, and a nice feel. I've just been able to putz around the house with it, but it feels so natural. My hopes are that I can control speed of the putts better on faster greens. I probably paid a bit much 70 delivered, buts it's a mint demo, without a sightline, hard to find like my Tracy II. After playing YES putters I can't stand a Cameron, or any putter that doesn't impart topspin. One of worst putters I used was a Brad Faxon Laguna 2.5 that would fly in there air a few inches and skid a few more, on any putt over 10' foot. I have a Ping Pal I think it's the 4 and the one Ky has, a ram Zebra. Gotta go my ol ladys horny.
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My Sophia came in yesterday. Gorgeous, great weighty feel, and a nice feel. I've just been able to putz around the house with it, but it feels so natural. My hopes are that I can control speed of the putts better on faster greens. I probably paid a bit much 70 delivered, buts it's a mint demo, without a sightline, hard to find like my Tracy II. After playing YES putters I can't stand a Cameron, or any putter that doesn't impart topspin. One of worst putters I used was a Brad Faxon Laguna 2.5 that would fly in there air a few inches and skid a few more, on any putt over 10' foot. I have a Ping Pal I think it's the 4 and the one Ky has, a ram Zebra. Gotta go my ol ladys horny.
I like the Sophia because it has less offset than some of the other true heel-shafted blade putters. I have to admit that I'm leaning toward the Lynx putter at Golfsmith. I has almost no offset-something I like in a blade putter. I was trying a wristy stroke on the practice putting green with it, where I would just pop the ball, and I was making everything.
Another one I'm considering is the Ping H blade. They say you shouldn't bring a knife to a fight but I'll make an exception with my blade.
My other putter is a Ray Cook mallet. The M-1. Nice heavy small head in sort of a U-235 looking finish. I like the name because it reminds me of both one of my favorite rifles and a very good tank. And, best of all, my absolute favorite vehicle of either two or four wheels made by Bavarian Motor Works. I customized my Ray Cook M-1 with an Aldila graphite iron shaft cut to play 33". I filled the shaft with sand and stuck a black and white checked putter grip, pistol grip style, on the end with some lead weight at the butt end of the shaft. It is a short but heavy putter that has some nifty shaft flex. It is my pop-putter for when I feel the need to go Retro in my putting that day a la Bobby Locke and all the big pros who played in the '50's on those slow greens you see on the old TV black and white films of the Masters and Shell Wonderful World of Golf.
In this age of concern over skin cancer, I'd be hesitant to game a putter called Ray Cook, even if I apply sunblock.
My Sophia came in yesterday. Gorgeous, great weighty feel, and a nice feel. I've just been able to putz around the house with it, but it feels so natural. My hopes are that I can control speed of the putts better on faster greens. I probably paid a bit much 70 delivered, buts it's a mint demo, without a sightline, hard to find like my Tracy II. After playing YES putters I can't stand a Cameron, or any putter that doesn't impart topspin. One of worst putters I used was a Brad Faxon Laguna 2.5 that would fly in there air a few inches and skid a few more, on any putt over 10' foot. I have a Ping Pal I think it's the 4 and the one Ky has, a ram Zebra. Gotta go my ol ladys horny.
Yes, I have 3 Ram Zebra mallet putters, 2 at 33" and 1 at 32", stupid R&D mentality but I love the Ram Zebra 32" with Winn fat grip... so damn balanced, heavy enough,,, in fact I removed the head's foam insert and fill its cavity with heavy sand... LOVE the balance
I have a Ping DOC 17. Not a blade but a Ping never the less.
Wow, what a big putter you have. I also recently procured a fine Ping putter from the Bay. It's a Ping JAS Craz-e Moment Putter, in brand new condition. I made 3 birdies over 15 feet. Women swoon when you play Ping.
For a spash of realism, I suggest you and most here spend the money on lessons. Tell the pro you're ready for blades and that you serious think the type of irons you play will lower your average scores. I suspect the pro will say, "ok, I can help you decide which irons you need, but first, lets see your swing." We both know happens next. 30 minutes later you will NOT be thinking about clubs but about the MAJOR swing changes you need to make and scheduling your next lesson.
Here Kevin (the pro you took a lesson from) hits an OLD 1-iron 250 yards to the end of the range.
My message: "it is not the clubs!"
Larry
Larry, I just wanted to thank you for clarifying who Kevin was. In my old age I had forgotten that I spent an hour with him on the range about 2 months ago.
Oh, and the thread is in regard to blade putters, not irons. The name of this website is GolfReview, so it probably stands to reason that we'd discuss golf clubs.
I have a Ping DOC 17. Not a blade but a Ping never the less.
I had a DOC once, but I think mine may have been the 15. Really easy putter to get the ball rolling. Regret getting rid of it now.
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Larry, I just wanted to thank you for clarifying who Kevin was. In my old age I had forgotten that I spent an hour with him on the range about 2 months ago.
Oh, and the thread is in regard to blade putters, not irons. The name of this website is GolfReview, so it probably stands to reason that we'd discuss golf clubs.
You were just a mark for Larry and his golf lesson scam he's got going with Kevin. He probably gets so many pigeons he loses track of who he has scammed.
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Originally Posted by Pky6471
Yes, I have 3 Ram Zebra mallet putters, 2 at 33" and 1 at 32", stupid R&D mentality but I love the Ram Zebra 32" with Winn fat grip... so damn balanced, heavy enough,,, in fact I removed the head's foam insert and fill its cavity with heavy sand... LOVE the balance
That's pretty cool how you can remove the bottom plate, I guess the foam insert is for noise, or adding weight by removing the foam.
You could use it as a stash spot also. Coke, condoms, weed.
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That's pretty cool how you can remove the bottom plate, I guess the foam insert is for noise, or adding weight by removing the foam.
You could use it as a stash spot also. Coke, condoms, weed.
We don't need a rocket scientist to do this, just remove 4 small screws at the bottom, take out a foam insert, squeeze in as many as you could with used condoms... then you are on the way to improve your scores by 4 strokes (10 condoms for 1 stroke)
Seriously... if any of U are having problem with your putter, read the reviews on the bottom of above website and give it a try... I don't have 3 for no reasons... The first one I paid $55 over 15 yrs ago, 3-4 yrs ago Golf Galaxy opened a store in Wilmington DE and they have them on sales for $15/each brand new, so I bought two U guys can play better than me but I know I putt better than most of you guys
Seriously... if any of U are having problem with your putter, read the reviews on the bottom of above website and give it a try... I don't have 3 for no reasons... The first one I paid $55 over 15 yrs ago, 3-4 yrs ago Golf Galaxy opened a store in Wilmington DE and they have them on sales for $15/each brand new, so I bought two U guys can play better than me but I know I putt better than most of you guys
I think it's only the old Zebras that are any good. I've hit newer models which didn't have the same feel and balance as the older ones. I certainly wish I could get my hands on an old Zebra. I made offers to a couple of guys at my old club who had them but none of them would part with them.
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I took your advice and went for the Ping Anser 5 and I really like it after moving away from my mallet. Have not 3 putted with it in 3 rounds so far which was a big problem with my old putter. Love the feel of the milled face and I am getting more and more comfortable with it each round I play. Obviously it is not what you are looking for but was wondering if you have tried one?
I have a blade putter and a mallet putter. I am currently using the Taylormade Corza Ghost which is a mallet putter with the inline shaft. The thing that has improved my putting though has nothing to do with the style of putter, it has everything to do with making the change to a "left hand low" grip. It improved my putting last week by 50%. It forces me to be less "handsy" with the putt and to use the big muscles of my body to stroke the ball. As a result, I am putting the ball straighter and more smooth.
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I took your advice and went for the Ping Anser 5 and I really like it after moving away from my mallet. Have not 3 putted with it in 3 rounds so far which was a big problem with my old putter. Love the feel of the milled face and I am getting more and more comfortable with it each round I play. Obviously it is not what you are looking for but was wondering if you have tried one?
Magoo, that's great to hear! You can't go wrong with Ping. I'm fairly certain I had recommended either the Ping Anser 2 or 3 and not the 5. In fact, I'm not certain what the 5 looks like. Does it have a longer hosel?
I have a blade putter and a mallet putter. I am currently using the Taylormade Corza Ghost which is a mallet putter with the inline shaft. The thing that has improved my putting though has nothing to do with the style of putter, it has everything to do with making the change to a "left hand low" grip. It improved my putting last week by 50%. It forces me to be less "handsy" with the putt and to use the big muscles of my body to stroke the ball. As a result, I am putting the ball straighter and more smooth.
When I say "blade putter" I mean the heel-shafted kind like Phil Mickelson used yesterday. Another way of putting it is "8802 style".
Many of today's golf rags refer to a Ping Anser-style putter as a blade putter. I consider those to be heel-toe weighted putters and nothing close to a true blade putter.
When I say "blade putter" I mean the heel-shafted kind like Phil Mickelson used yesterday. Another way of putting it is "8802 style".
Many of today's golf rags refer to a Ping Anser-style putter as a blade putter. I consider those to be heel-toe weighted putters and nothing close to a true blade putter.
You are correct. Basically a heel-shafted putter with a straight shaft. Corey Pavin won his first senior tour event yesterday down in Florida. Using his Bullseye putter. This is not a traditional blade putter but a center-shafted putter like the Schenectady putter that was banned for use long ago (maybe the 1930's) because it was center-shafted instead of heel-shafted and the guy who first played it beat the snot out of the Field and the Field was mightily pissed. I still have one of my father's old Bullseyes out in my shed but have not used it in years because the shaft is a little loose and rattles and the original leather grip is smooth as ice. Corey's victory has spurred me to get a new shaft and grip and I will likely fill the new shaft up with sand and maybe put another 50-100 grams of lead in the grip to make it my own Heavy Bullseye.
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When I say "blade putter" I mean the heel-shafted kind like Phil Mickelson used yesterday. Another way of putting it is "8802 style".
Many of today's golf rags refer to a Ping Anser-style putter as a blade putter. I consider those to be heel-toe weighted putters and nothing close to a true blade putter.
Oh, . . . . . . . . those suck . . . . . . . . why are we discussing such inept putters?
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Oh, . . . . . . . . those suck . . . . . . . . why are we discussing such inept putters?
People who have a putter stroke that's straight back, and straight through the target line they probably do suck.
People who have a putter stroke that's inside the target line on the backstroke and inside on the follow through, they can be a better fit.
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Magoo, that's great to hear! You can't go wrong with Ping. I'm fairly certain I had recommended either the Ping Anser 2 or 3 and not the 5. In fact, I'm not certain what the 5 looks like. Does it have a longer hosel?
You suggested the 2 or 4. My stroke is very straight and after trying most of the Anser options I found the 5 suited my stroke the best. You are correct, it does have a longer hosel but it doesn't bother me at all. You should try one yourself.
People who have a putter stroke that's straight back, and straight through the target line they probably do suck.
People who have a putter stroke that's inside the target line on the backstroke and inside on the follow through, they can be a better fit.
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How is the new Sophia going? Have you had a chance to test it out on the course?
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Originally Posted by Maggoo
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How is the new Sophia going? Have you had a chance to test it out on the course?
We still have snow on the ground here, though it's been a mild winter, and I've been able to hit quite a few balls in the backyard range as we've had some nice days.
I'm taking a few days off, and heading south to play 2 days in a couple weeks.
My typical miss is a pulled putt, long. My theory is it will work. Though there is not much room for error, as it's unforgiving.
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We still have snow on the ground here, though it's been a mild winter, and I've been able to hit quite a few balls in the backyard range as we've had some nice days.
I'm taking a few days off, and heading south to play 2 days in a couple weeks. My typical miss is a pulled putt, long. My theory is it will work. Though there is not much room for error, as it's unforgiving.
The general consensus of this forum is that a fade is better than a draw on all clubs. I suggest you go to work at fading your putts.
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You suggested the 2 or 4. My stroke is very straight and after trying most of the Anser options I found the 5 suited my stroke the best. You are correct, it does have a longer hosel but it doesn't bother me at all. You should try one yourself.
Mr. Maggoo, I am delighted to hear of your success with the Ping Anser 5 putter. Karsten designed the first Anser and if you have read the latest Golf Digest Clubtest you'll see that every recommended "blade" putter out there is an exact replica of the original anser.
Myself, I tend to like the "anser" style putter as well but I do not like a long hosel. I recently procured a Ping JAS Craz-E putter off of Ebay and upon receipt I was disturbed upon my discovery of a dead mouse inside the headcover (not joking). Fortunately I discovered the mouse while golfing so it was easy to toss it aside and carry on. The smell lingered though.
For whatever reason, I can't seem to putt well with a large mallet putter, especially the short ones.
Mr. Maggoo, I am delighted to hear of your success with the Ping Anser 5 putter. Karsten designed the first Anser and if you have read the latest Golf Digest Clubtest you'll see that every recommended "blade" putter out there is an exact replica of the original anser.
Myself, I tend to like the "anser" style putter as well but I do not like a long hosel. I recently procured a Ping JAS Craz-E putter off of Ebay and upon receipt I was disturbed upon my discovery of a dead mouse inside the headcover (not joking). Fortunately I discovered the mouse while golfing so it was easy to toss it aside and carry on. The smell lingered though.
For whatever reason, I can't seem to putt well with a large mallet putter, especially the short ones.
I can putt just fine with the Taylormad Corza Ghost mallet putter, but I had a PING JAS Craz-E putter that I bought off Fleabay a couple of years ago and putted one round with it. I then gave it away to my brother and told him to never bring it back within my sight again.
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I can putt just fine with the Taylormad Corza Ghost mallet putter, but I had a PING JAS Craz-E putter that I bought off Fleabay a couple of years ago and putted one round with it. I then gave it away to my brother and told him to never bring it back within my sight again.
It's not uncommon for average golfers to have no luck with Ping clubs. They are precision instruments that can only be used by the finest craftsmen, such as myself.
The general consensus of this forum is that a fade is better than a draw on all clubs. I suggest you go to work at fading your putts.
As silly as that sounds I once read Trevino talking about hitting his putts with a slight fade swing path which took missing left out of the equation. I've tried doing this in the past and I msut admit you get a sweet feeling when you sort of just slightly cut across the ball, and it goes pretty straight too.
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As silly as that sounds I once read Trevino talking about hitting his putts with a slight fade swing path which took missing left out of the equation. I've tried doing this in the past and I msut admit you get a sweet feeling when you sort of just slightly cut across the ball, and it goes pretty straight too.
Trevino also had a method of ensuring a straight ball with driver off the tee. It was such a good tip that one of the golf magazines back in the mid-90's had him on the cover hitting driver with the title "Aim left, swing right, walk straight." The deal is you open your stance and aim left of your intended target line. You swing driver to the right of your intended target line. The mofo goes dead straight. Works like a charm. Anyway, a couple of years later I was in the gallery on a Friday morning at the first round of a Senior Tour event that used to be held outside Philly in Oxford, PA, and was sort of following Trevino overy few holes. He was playing with Thorpe and John Inman. Thorpe and Inman teed off and then Trevino gets his driver out of the bag and walks back to where we're standing behind a four foot high plywood board and looks me in the eye and I say "Aim left, swing right, and walk straight." And he gives me the finger and walks towards his teed ball, steps back towards us and takes his driver back with full swing force and the head hits the plywood like a rifle shot and me and the other guys jumped like four feet off the ground. He grinned and got up and aimed left, swung right and walked, with his caddie, straight down the middle.
As silly as that sounds I once read Trevino talking about hitting his putts with a slight fade swing path which took missing left out of the equation. I've tried doing this in the past and I msut admit you get a sweet feeling when you sort of just slightly cut across the ball, and it goes pretty straight too.
Something I tried the other day was addressing my putt and then using almost a pure wrist stroke where I would take my putting backswing simply by hinging my wrists and just barely moving my shoulders. The result was an extremely solid hit and very brief follow-thru. It felt like I was simply popping the ball toward the hole. I made putt after putt that way. That's the old way of putting because greens used to be furry, as did cooch.
Something I tried the other day was addressing my putt and then using almost a pure wrist stroke where I would take my putting backswing simply by hinging my wrists and just barely moving my shoulders. The result was an extremely solid hit and very brief follow-thru. It felt like I was simply popping the ball toward the hole. I made putt after putt that way. That's the old way of putting because greens used to be furry, as did cooch.
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Something I tried the other day was addressing my putt and then using almost a pure wrist stroke where I would take my putting backswing simply by hinging my wrists and just barely moving my shoulders. The result was an extremely solid hit and very brief follow-thru. It felt like I was simply popping the ball toward the hole. I made putt after putt that way. That's the old way of putting because greens used to be furry, as did cooch.
My Dad putts that way and is a pretty decent putter.
Did you try it on a course during a round or just on the practice green? I've tried it on the practice green with decent results but wasn't game enough to try it during an actual round.
We still have snow on the ground here, though it's been a mild winter, and I've been able to hit quite a few balls in the backyard range as we've had some nice days.
I'm taking a few days off, and heading south to play 2 days in a couple weeks.
My typical miss is a pulled putt, long. My theory is it will work. Though there is not much room for error, as it's unforgiving.
Let us know how you go, I hate to rub it in but it was a sunny 33 Deg C here today, very nice out on the course although the greens were a little hard.
The general consensus of this forum is that a fade is better than a draw on all clubs. I suggest you go to work at fading your putts.
Really? My natural shot on my woods and irons is a fade and I hate it. It kills me when I am a little off with my ball striking. Personally I would prefer a draw. Maybe I should try hitting a fade on my putts, although I don't really want to change anything with my putting. It is going very well since picking up the ping.
My Dad putts that way and is a pretty decent putter.
Did you try it on a course during a round or just on the practice green? I've tried it on the practice green with decent results but wasn't game enough to try it during an actual round.
You continue to provide us with information not exactly putting your Dad in a favorable light. I'm disappointed by this. Just remember you're from his loins and the apple.....well, you know.
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Originally Posted by SoonerBS
The general consensus of this forum is that a fade is better than a draw on all clubs. I suggest you go to work at fading your putts.
Sometimes I think the wind in Ok is having a reversion effect on you, like it must be blowing up your ass and out your mouth
Have you ever learned to hit a draw?.
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My Dad putts that way and is a pretty decent putter.
Did you try it on a course during a round or just on the practice green? I've tried it on the practice green with decent results but wasn't game enough to try it during an actual round.
I'm going to try it on the course the next time I go out. I know a guy who putts that way as well and he's one of the best putters I've seen. I think it's easiest to putt that way with a smaller-headed putter. I don't think that was correct English but you get my drift.
Sometimes I think the wind in Ok is having a reversion effect on you, like it must be blowing up your ass and out your mouth
Have you ever learned to hit a draw?.
Actually, the Oklahoma wind is so strong that there is not a bodily orifice that is left unmolested.
As far as me learning to hit a draw, I now hit nothing BUT a draw. I've never been one to run with general consensus.
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I'm going to try it on the course the next time I go out. I know a guy who putts that way as well and he's one of the best putters I've seen. I think it's easiest to putt that way with a smaller-headed putter. I don't think that was correct English but you get my drift.
More info about my Dad. He plays an old Ping Anser that you could never pry from his grasp.
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Originally Posted by Maggoo
Let us know how you go, I hate to rub it in but it was a sunny 33 Deg C here today, very nice out on the course although the greens were a little hard.
You had to rub it in. Will do, when I get a few rounds under my belt I'll relay my affair with the Sophia. Though the Tracy II is a fine putter. I just struggled on some very fast greens with it.
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