Why No Bids For These CG-1's?

[24putts]

On Ebay, a seller with a 100% rating has an opening price of $249.00 on a NEW set of CG-1's, and there are no bids. Anyone have a guess as to why not?

[golfaholic]

On Ebay, a seller with a 100% rating has an opening price of $249.00 on a NEW set of CG-1's, and there are no bids. Anyone have a guess as to why not?

I'm guessing there's alot of time left on the auction?

[TmacG]

Could you leave a link so we we could take a look at them. As golfaholic said, its probably just early in the auction and nobody has bid on them for that reason.

TmacG

[TmacG]

I just searched CG-1's on Ebay and there are about 10 sets, none of which have zero bids.

TmacG

[golfaholic]

I just searched CG-1's on Ebay and there are about 10 sets, none of which have zero bids.

TmacG

r u calling him a liar?

someone probably bid since his post. i would for that price.

[bjdrivers]

Because CG1s suck and Mizuno's are God. Right Omen?

[Omen2]

took the words right out of my mouth....

[bjdrivers]

which explains why Mizuno's top ranked staffer is 11th in the world while Cleveland's is 7th. durrrp

[Omen2]

mizuno doesnt pay people to play their stuff... only slack jaw manufacturers do... NIKE... what did tiger play before he was paid to play something.... was it cleveland... no, not cleveland... i know that he specifically required nike to make his irons to feel, look, and play like some other manufacturers clubs...was it cleveland??? no, no it wasnt...but who i wonder...who made such an impression with their product line and not their pocket book to make, arguably, the greatest player in the history of the game play their stuff and then even go so far as to ask his sponsor to make them like the other companys?....hmm, but it wasnt cleveland

if a certain company was to put up the same money offer that Nike did Tiger would not have a swoosh anywhere on him...

DOOOHHHH...

[bjdrivers]

haha I knew I'd get another one of those boring lectures from you. you're so caught up on Tigger, what brand of underwear does he wear when he plays? i bet you "custom fit" him for them don't u?

[bjdrivers]

Sorry to get the original post off topic everyone, just having fun with Mizuno creater, designer, and company owner Omen2. Anyhow, I think David Howell sniped those cg1s off ebay already because he couldn't find any Mizuno sets for sell. See, he would play those even though Mizuno wouldn't pay him too. Keep that in mind.

[Omen2]

what a stupid question...he wears nike underwear of course...but if they didnt pay him to he would wear mizuno....

Mizuno....best forged irons, and one of the only true forged irons...not that stamped forged shiot that comes from cleveland


hey that hybrid compliments those cast blades very well....

[bjdrivers]

Yes CMM stands for Stamped Forged Shiot.

[Spinner]

what a stupid question...he wears nike underwear of course...but if they didnt pay him to he would wear mizuno....

Mizuno....best forged irons, and one of the only true forged irons...not that stamped forged shiot that comes from cleveland


hey that hybrid compliments those cast blades very well....

Are the CG1's cast?? I like the way the CG1's look but if they are cast they cannot compare to forged blades when it comes to feel can they? Has anyone tried them both?

P.S. has anyone tried the Mizuno MP-R wedges? They look awesome and are forged..... Still love my good old cast Vokey wedges. If only Bob Vokey started making forged wedges.......

[bjdrivers]

I have played both the MP-33s & the cg1 black pearl. I haven't hit the chrome CG1s so I can't comment on them. The black pearls feel softer than the mp's and to me just look a lot better with the dark finish. No glare issues here. Also, they don't beat up in the bag as bad as forged sticks do. I demo'd a set of the black pearls and proceeded to list the MP33's on ebay that night if that tells you anything. Both are really good iron sets, just depends on your preference. This was my mature reply, now I will await Omen's dumbass response to slam Clevelands even though he uses their wedges and has probably never hit a CG1....

[Omen2]

i have hit the cg1's...i was actually going to buy them when a friend suggested i try his mp-33's... sweet club... then i saw the great reviews the 32's were getting demoed it and got the greatest irons ever made...

there are very few forged irons on the market that are truly forged...cleveland definitely uses the stamping method.... heat up the metal and stamp out the clubhead... thats why in there CMM there are several inconsistencies... the metal doesnt actually get worked ...this is all well documented... MIZUNO still forges there clubs the traditional way...

the mp-33 is as traditional a blade as ever there was and it's sweet spot is very small with a rather high CG which makes it not only harder to hit dead center but also hard to get in the air...if i couldn't find the center of the club face i wouldn't like a club either which explains why BJ opted for the stamped GAME IMPROVER SET complete with a HYBRID.... some people need help he was man enough to admit it and his scores are probably better for it.

that was as mature a post as i have ever posted

[bjdrivers]

You wouldn't have, by chance, decended from Japanese heritage now would you?

[Omen2]

nope... i was born in galveston, texas and raised in houston texas....

my wife is half japanese but she doesn't know anything about golf nor care whose equipment i play.

[bjdrivers]

OK good I was hoping I didn't offend you with a comment I made in another post.

[Omen2]

i am not easily offended....


... you cut me, you cut me real deep drivers.... i thought we could maybe be friends through this hybrid thing, but you crossed the line....

how are you hitting your senior stick anyway??

[bjdrivers]

Played my first actual round with the LDI in the bag yesterday, it worked out quite nicely. easy to draw off the tee and i hit a big nice high cut and reached a par 5 in two from 230, too bad it bounced off and over the green into a creek. I ended up making 6. and just like you, bogeying a par 5 really pisses me off. It was down wind & landed on a down slope. that's how my luck runs in this stupid game.

[Omen2]

well let me throw a little salt into your par 5 wound.... took the afternoon off to play and on the par 5 ninth i pulled my drive into the left rough under trees...luckily i could make a full swing but i had to cover 220+ yards and stay under low branches for the first 65+ yards.... so i figured three iron back of the stance and hook it so it will run and maybe get lucky...

PUREST SHOT I'VE EVER HIT WITH A THREE IRON.... stays down but i cant see it...but i know it's good.... john is in the middle of the fairway with 200 left.... i come out of the trees and say where'd that end up...he's looking like i dont know or care because you suck..... DEAD CENTER OF THE GREEN AND RELEASES A FEW FEET....

he hooks his 5 iron (mp-33) way left... my eagle putt misses on the high side by nano centi millimeters and goes 3 inches by.....he makes 6

I COULD NEVER HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT MY TRUE FORGED MIZUNO BLADE 3 IRON... MIZUNO BABY...sorry couldn't resist...

yeah 6 on 5's definitely gets the blood boiling.

[bjdrivers]

I would have made the putt for eagle with my never compromise milled series #1 putter. maybe you need scotty to design you a more forgiving putter from his custom shop.

[24putts]

Omen, what about my 1982 powerbilt citation blades (made for the Japanese market) which feel so great? Can I assume they're a result of the traditional forging process you say Cleveland has abandoned?

[Omen2]

how the hell should i know about the citation blades.. i was 2 in 1982...little young for blades dont you think.

[Omen2]

just looked them up... they are cavity backs.... couldn't find how they were made... could very well be cast like most cavity backs are.

[pingman360]

while i am not a feel player at all (i am the very definition of a mechanical/technical player) if i was i would have to abandon my PING's for something forged... and my choice would be hands down Mizuno... im sorry BJ but while the CG1's are good clubs the true flow grain forging of Mizuno beats Cleveland any day... fortunatly feel is not a area of intrest to me so the PING's are my club of choice...

[Omen2]

NO STAMPED FORGINGS FOR ME PLEASE... pingman is dead on....true flow grain beats the snot out of CMM

[bethpage caddy]

this thread is funny. stop worrying about the equipment and start worrying about your swing. I can guarantee that blindfolded you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Then again, you probably wouldn't be able to hit the ball if you were blindfolded.

[bjdrivers]

lol why are you apologizing to me? I don't give a rip about what you guys want to play or what's better than what. it's all opinions by tour-wannabe's on a free forum. I did hit 12/18 GIRs today and shot a 75 on a 7130 yd 141 slope course. No need to apologize for my clubs. Thanks. Some of you seriously need to get a life.

[Omen2]

well you should be hitting lots of greens... i mean you basically have some refined nike oss slingshot irons pw - 7 and then some hybrids that cover the gap between your 7 iron and 7 wood... you go girl....

[bjdrivers]

well you should be hitting lots of greens... i mean you basically have some refined nike oss slingshot irons pw - 7 and then some hybrids that cover the gap between your 7 iron and 7 wood... you go girl....

lol running out of stuff to say? that was pretty weak.

[Omen2]

two words... iron covers

[pingman360]

hey by the way BJ... how do you like your LDI??? i love mine very workable and more height than a reglar 2i (i have mine bent to 19.5*)... do you have a steel or graphite shaft in it???

[bjdrivers]

two words... iron covers

haha that's the quickest way to become the laughing stock of your foursome.


I love the LDI pingman, very long & solid club. I have the Aldila NV stiff graphite shaft in it.

[Omen2]

hybrids = p.ussy who can't hit a 3 iron....
geez take up bowling if you cant hit a long iron

[TmacG]

hybrids = p.ussy who can't hit a 3 iron....
geez take up bowling if you cant hit a long iron

Whats saying you cant take up both?

[Omen2]

i concede to you manly men with 4-gw and hybrids with shafts that match your tutus.... i cant compete

in all seriousness I have tried a few hybrids and i just cant hit the damn things for whatever reason... maybe it was due to the fact that the main target demograph is slightly older players which means all the stores are going to have senior, regular, and maybe stiff flex, which is too soft for my swing. I imagine if i had one shafted with something suited to my swing then i would see the benefits of the hybrid world... but as it stands the three iron is nifty from under the trees and for those 220 yard par threes.

I'm sure you guys realize it already but todays three iron is basically the two iron of the nicklaus, palmer days. so your 4- gw would be the lofts of their 3- pw.... which means you can play the whole: stronger lofts are for weaker minded golfers:

i cant wait till they come out with a 36* pw....i bet i hit that way farther than my 47* pw

[bjdrivers]

I'm sure you guys realize it already but todays three iron is basically the two iron of the nicklaus, palmer days. so your 4- gw would be the lofts of their 3- pw.... which means you can play the whole: stronger lofts are for weaker minded golfers:

Which would explain why Titleist made the 2* strong lofted 695CB irons for "weaker minded players" like Zach Johnson, Fredrik Jacobson, Ryan Palmer, Bryce Molder, Duffy Waldorf, & Greg Kraft. Wusses Omen would so pwn any of those guy with his traditional weaker lofts of old.


"A high hybrid to the center of the green is needed, as this hole has one of the trickiest greens at Augusta." - Luke Donald referring to the par 3 4th hole at Augusta National in the April '07 issue of Golf Magazine.

I bet Omen would just punch his Jack Nicklaus of old lofted 3 iron up there and tap in for birdie.

[Horseballs]

i concede to you manly men with 4-gw and hybrids with shafts that match your tutus.... i cant compete

in all seriousness I have tried a few hybrids and i just cant hit the damn things for whatever reason... maybe it was due to the fact that the main target demograph is slightly older players which means all the stores are going to have senior, regular, and maybe stiff flex, which is too soft for my swing. I imagine if i had one shafted with something suited to my swing then i would see the benefits of the hybrid world... but as it stands the three iron is nifty from under the trees and for those 220 yard par threes.

I'm sure you guys realize it already but todays three iron is basically the two iron of the nicklaus, palmer days. so your 4- gw would be the lofts of their 3- pw.... which means you can play the whole: stronger lofts are for weaker minded golfers:

i cant wait till they come out with a 36* pw....i bet i hit that way farther than my 47* pw

There are steel shafted hybrids with regular types of shafts like DG S300. I also have an X flex UST I-rod Sonartec 19* hybrid that would in no way be too soft. I can't get the damn thing airborne half the time.

[Omen2]

DOES TIGER NEED A HYBRID AT AUGUSTA... didn't think so... and just for your info... which will prove how much you dont know... my mp-32s are strong lofted as well.... my pw is 47*... the pw of nicklaus' day would have been 52*:

a hybrid isnt needed by the pros on tour... there have been thousands of great shots into that green without one so to say that because one guy on tour is getting paid to hit a hybrid does not mean it is needed.

but this is whole what is needed to hit into a green at augusta, is irrelevant because even if you, drivers, were to somehow qualify to play augusta you still couldnt.... WOMEN ARENT ALLOWED...BIOTCH.

do you and annika have the same 7 woods???

[Horseballs]

In my order of manliness, I have a 5 wood as only slightly less vaginal than a 7 wood. So it goes from top to bottom (top being most poontang)...
5 wood
2 hybrid
2 iron

[bjdrivers]

So now you're saying Luke gets paid to play a hybrid? I didn't think Mizuno paid their tour pros. lol I can't believe I waste minutes of my day posting to this stupid board. I'm glad you sent me the link to golfwrx.com

[bjdrivers]

Debating golf clubs with Omen is like debating Global Warming with a left-wing tree-hugging liberal. i'm done. you guys take care.

[Omen2]

MIZUNO does pay their staffers, but not nearly as much as the other manufacturers do.

if you are on this site with any kind of expectations of seriousness you are going to be very dissappointed, that's why i told you about the other site, we all have our serious forums, we come here to fu.ck with one another... the occassional golf topic comes up.

hybrids are for sissies.... i agree with TESTICLE BOY that 5 wood is feminine enough for me... i still wish i carried the 2 iron... it's got i don't fuc.k around and i dont hit bit.ch clubs written all over it... especially when i'm swinging well and i hit that bit.ch into a par 5.... move over you hybrid swinging *****es.... i dont need nike oss slingshot irons either...............................damn.. im putting the 2 back in.

[bjdrivers]

i dont need nike oss slingshot irons either...............................damn.. im putting the 2 back in.

You're right, you need your cut-muscle cavity backed blades.

[Omen2]

hateing on my true forged eh....

[Kiwi Player]

I'm sure you guys realize it already but todays three iron is basically the two iron of the nicklaus, palmer days. so your 4- gw would be the lofts of their 3- pw....

Is that really true. I have seen a few old sets and the 3 iron is usually about 21-22* loft its just that the clubs go up in greater increments from 6-pw meaning you end up with a 48 -50* PW as opposed to today's 44-47*

Eg

old set
3 21*
4 24*
5 27*
6 31*
7 35*
8 40*
9 45*
pw 50*

Today's
3 21*
4 24*
5 27*
6 30*
7 33*
8 37*
9 41*
pw 45*


On this basis the 2 iron would still be 18-19*?

The golf manufacturers have done a great job of stroking our ego's (by thinking we are hitting it further) and forcing us to by an extra (gap) wedge.

[miket_81]

If your trying to cure your clubs getting beat-up and don't want those stupid iron covers. You have to look at the bennington quiet organizer golf bag. I have had mine for around a year and it is of very high quality. Not only do your clubs not bang around but they are in order and you always know when you are missing a club.
I have the HEX model and you can find it for around or less than $150 shipped.
I few people at my club and people I know have bought them after seeing mine and love theirs.

[Omen2]

THE only problem i have with those style bags is that you are completely limited to 14 clubs... i have several different wedge bounce options that i carry with me for recreational rounds. It would be fine for actual tournament rounds when i know what bounce and loft options i feel will be most beneficial for a given track but during the practice rounds before a tournament i usually have 17-18 clubs on me...

i will have to decide on the 5 wood or the 2 iron
and then which 55* bounce i will prefer and if i need the 58* and if i do which bounce option there and if i am carrying the 2 or the 5 which mid to long do i need to drop so as you can see i usually need more than 14 club spots.

but for the average player with forged irons who only has a set 14 club bag that they put into play, the bennington is a very good choice.

[Horseballs]

THE only problem i have with those style bags is that you are completely limited to 14 clubs... i have several different wedge bounce options that i carry with me for recreational rounds. It would be fine for actual tournament rounds when i know what bounce and loft options i feel will be most beneficial for a given track but during the practice rounds before a tournament i usually have 17-18 clubs on me...

i will have to decide on the 5 wood or the 2 iron
and then which 55* bounce i will prefer and if i need the 58* and if i do which bounce option there and if i am carrying the 2 or the 5 which mid to long do i need to drop so as you can see i usually need more than 14 club spots.

but for the average player with forged irons who only has a set 14 club bag that they put into play, the bennington is a very good choice.

Don't forget your 4 hybrids and waterball retriever.

[TmacG]

I always carry more than 14 clubs for recreational rounds, especially when I'm by myself and I can hit 4 different shots into a green (given no one is waiting) I find it helps with shotmaking, and then you know that you can say hit an 8 iron from 120 yards.

TmacG

[Omen2]

no Omen dont carry no stinking hybrids... and i really am not that concerned about the aesthetics of my waterball retriever.... it can get banged up

on a serious note the new bennington quiet organizer does have a special slot for a hybrid...hmmmm

i agree with tmac.... on the slow days i definetly hit several different shots into greens...and i walk a lot so the bennington aint gonna cut it for me...too heavy and too restrictive on club capacity.

ping hoofer in da house

[bjdrivers]

i agree with tmac.... on the slow days i definetly hit several different shots into greens...

When the first 2 are shanks, and the 3rd one was bladed 30 yards over the green, I don't blame you. Just try to not hold up the better players behind you like bjdrivers!

[golfaholic]

I don't blame you. Just try to not hold up the better players behind you like bjdrivers!

and JS.....

[Omen2]

yeah you are probably right... better at cheating anyway... and for the record I dont shank and i dont blade shots.... thats why i play a forged blade... because i know where the center of the clubface is.....i dont need hybrids to replace 7-3 iron so that i can not only get the ball into the air but to also help it go straight....

by the way bj drivers ... how do you like the LDI... i was thinking of getting my wife one...

[pingman360]

yeah you are probably right... better at cheating anyway... and for the record I dont shank and i dont blade shots.... thats why i play a forged blade... because i know where the center of the clubface is.....i dont need hybrids to replace 7-3 iron so that i can not only get the ball into the air but to also help it go straight....

by the way bj drivers ... how do you like the LDI... i was thinking of getting my wife one...

hey now... lol... but really the LDI really isnt that much more forgiving its actually not a hybrid but driving iron... but whatever i know i cant hit a 2i as consistant as i would like so i got the LDI and had it bent to the loft i wanted... but if you can then good...

[bjdrivers]

by the way bj drivers ... how do you like the LDI... i was thinking of getting my wife one...

I've already answered that twice I think, but I will again. In my last round of golf I did this with it: (I normally can remember every shot I play for the last 3 or 4 rounds of golf I've played)


2nd shot on #9 525yd par 5. Hit dead straight from fairway 237 out to about 10 yd in front of green. Got up/down for bird.

2nd shot on #10 550 yd par 5. Hit low, boring draw from left tree line over pond to 80 yards out in fairway setting up 2 putt par after severely hooked tee shot.

Tee shot on #14 323 yd. tight dogleg left par 4. Nice high draw to 105 yards out in fairway.

2nd shot on #17 458 yd. par 4. Hit low, straight punch shot under tree limb after pulling my drive. Ended up 40 yd short of green in fairway to setup up/down for par.

So, I should say you get her one, it's pretty damn awesome. Honestly though, I've yet to miss-hit it, so I can't remark on it's forgiveness. I'm a pretty solid ballstriker. It just gives me more length than the 3 iron, it gives me more control on the ball flight than the 3 iron, and it doesn't twist out of deep rough as much as the 3 iron. I don't need hybrids from 3-7 either which is why I play blades. Driving irons have been around longer than I've been playing golf. My dad used to have a MIZUNO driving iron many years ago and it was a very nice club. Big difference from a LDI and a sawed-off looking fairway wood known as a hybrid.

[pingman360]

Honestly though, I've yet to miss-hit it, so I can't remark on it's forgiveness. I'm a pretty solid ballstriker.

you havent mis-hit it even when you first got it on the range??? and your a 7 handi... yea i dont belive that @ all.. i am bout i 7 too and my instructor says i have better ball striking than a lot of his scratch golfers and he say with my striking i should be scratch and with my short game i should be a 10... and i mis-hit it so i think that you might be stretching

[bjdrivers]

I've played 4 rounds with it and have yet to mis-hit it. That's the truth. In fact, I don't even hit it on the range cause the results would be predictable. I'm not trying to brag or whatever, just saying that the thing is very easy to hit and so far I've either hit it dead straight or a slight draw every time. I am a solid ball striker with irons, I rarely miss hit them. My driving and 3 wood however...... those and my putting are what usually puts me over par. I am driving the ball better with this driver than I was with my last one. My last round was a 3 over 75 w/ 12 GIR on a pretty lengthy course, so that says something about my iron play. I have only been playing Cleveland clubs for a few months. I used to have a mixed set. (Irons were Mizuno MP-33 blades) In fact, I used to have Callaway 2004 Big Bertha 3 & 5 woods. While those are good fairways, the 5 doesn't come close to this LDI. It's much more workable and predictable and easy to hit from any lie. So yes, I am a 7 handicap which just dropped to a 6.4 after my 75. I believe I can get to 3 or better by the end of this summer. I don't get to practice much, so I guess I'm doing good to be where I'm at. I just can't say enough about these CG1 irons and the LDI though. I wish I had switched to them sooner. To be honest, and to again annoy Omen, the Mizunos were more forgiving than these black pearl CG1s. If you misshit these cg1s at all, they will make you look like a 30 handicap. I have mishit a handful with the long irons, and it's a humbling experience. The Mizunos let me get away with it. Anyway, now I just have to straighten out the driver and make more putts.

[pingman360]

I've played 4 rounds with it and have yet to mis-hit it. That's the truth. In fact, I don't even hit it on the range cause the results would be predictable. I'm not trying to brag or whatever, just saying that the thing is very easy to hit and so far I've either hit it dead straight or a slight draw every time. I am a solid ball striker with irons, I rarely miss hit them. My driving and 3 wood however...... those and my putting are what usually puts me over par. I am driving the ball better with this driver than I was with my last one. My last round was a 3 over 75 w/ 12 GIR on a pretty lengthy course, so that says something about my iron play. I have only been playing Cleveland clubs for a few months. I used to have a mixed set. (Irons were Mizuno MP-33 blades) In fact, I used to have Callaway 2004 Big Bertha 3 & 5 woods. While those are good fairways, the 5 doesn't come close to this LDI. It's much more workable and predictable and easy to hit from any lie. So yes, I am a 7 handicap which just dropped to a 6.4 after my 75. I believe I can get to 3 or better by the end of this summer. I don't get to practice much, so I guess I'm doing good to be where I'm at. I just can't say enough about these CG1 irons and the LDI though. I wish I had switched to them sooner. To be honest, and to again annoy Omen, the Mizunos were more forgiving than these black pearl CG1s. If you misshit these cg1s at all, they will make you look like a 30 handicap. I have mishit a handful with the long irons, and it's a humbling experience. The Mizunos let me get away with it. Anyway, now I just have to straighten out the driver and make more putts.

well im gonna be honest and say that its just plain stupid for you to put a club in play without practicing with it first... Adam Scott practiced with his 905r for over a month befor switching to it... and you didnt hit any shots before swicting??? and also CG1's as knows as one of the most forgiving blades ever made...

[Omen2]

bjdrivers doesnt stretch the truth...

glad to hear you are having continued success with it.

pingman there are two types of golfers in this world....those of us who have mishit every club in our bag and those that lie

i personally have mishit my putter ... in fact it is not to often that i catch shots dead nuts on... they always seem to be just a hair off towards the toe....

again i dont think bjdrivers is lieing i just think that he's either not good enough to tell the difference between dean on and slightly off or HE'S NEVER HIT ONE DEAD ON and therefore doesn't realize he's missing most shots a little off center... very few amateur golfers can catch the dead center 80% of the time.

I have seen tiger mishit his 9 iron several times... not to mention his longer clubs.... so yeah to say you have never missed dead nuts on with the LDI is a little incredible...

now if you only consider a miss something that wildly hooks or slices then sure maybe you haven't done that but me i consider anytime i dont hit it dead center a mishit... which means i mishit a lot of shots especially my long irons.... my 7 iron is currently the iron i catch dead nut flush most often.... 6 times this season i have hit the seven so pure that even Tiger would have been jealous....you know the shot... when you have that MIZUNO GRAIN FLOW FORGING and you catch that PRO V1 so PERFECTLY it feels like you missed the ball entirely... the only feedback is the sound of the ball being compressed by GRAIN FLOW FORGING... you know the sound that can only come from GRAIN FLOW FORGING and you know way before your right sholder collects your chin and pushes your head up through the follow through, that this shot is PERFECT....

but like i said most are just a hair towards the toe and there is subtle but still noticeable : TO THOSE OF US WHO DONT HAVE GAME IMPROVERS: vibration to tell you CLOSE BUT NOT PERFECT.

that's the reason why i like blades....YOU GET THAT FEEDBACK ON OFF CENTER, EVEN BARELY OFF CENTER HITS... and then you can greatly appreciate that PERFECT CONTACT which reignites the desire to improve for the lower handicap who, like me have probably been stuck at the same spot and cant seem to drop those last few strokes...MIZUNO, THE PLAYER'S IRON....

bjdrivers..all joking aside, Cleveland CG1's are good irons... they are great blades and probably way more club than most golfers will ever be able to handle, but nothing compares to a pured mizuno blade, except maybe one of the really top echelon manufactureres: epon, fourteen, gold's factory, scratch, miura, and honma...

AND YOU COULD HAVE ONE OF THE VERY BEST BLADES MIZUNO EVER MADE, MP-33, FOR PRETTY DAMN CHEAP.

[bjdrivers]

well im gonna be honest and say that its just plain stupid for you to put a club in play without practicing with it first... Adam Scott practiced with his 905r for over a month befor switching to it... and you didnt hit any shots before swicting??? and also CG1's as knows as one of the most forgiving blades ever made...

May be stupid of me, but it worked out nicely, esp. considering that I got it free from a friend who bought a set of irons from me (part of the deal)

[bjdrivers]

lol I hope you copied/pasted that to keep from typing it every time. I know exactly what you're saying, but I can't say that I'm catching it PERFECTLY EXACTLY in the middle of the face. The feel of a driving iron is quite muted compared to a blade iron, so by feel I can't say I've hit it perfect. However if you're going by results of the shot, then the answer is yes. However I never said I hit it perfectly, I said I have yet to mis-hit it.

Also, I would love to hit some Mirua or scratch irons. I wish my local range had some. I've been to their websites and they look sweet.

[bjdrivers]

I played the MP33s for almost 2 years, so you're telling me nothing new about the feel of GRAIN FLOW FORGING. Yes, when you catch one pure, it is like an orgasm. I never said the black pearls felt better or had more feel than the zuno's, I said they felt softer, and they do. Both sets offer excellent feel and workablility. However, the toe line of the short irons are a bit higher and boxier at address, whereas the black pearls are more traditional looking and I like that. The MP33s are damn good irons and are by far the best deal on ebay, just know they will be beat up pretty badly since they are used. The CG1s are quite expensive. If you haven't demo'd the black pearls, you should.

[Omen2]

i havent the black pearls but the regular satin chrome i have... good but i dont feel they are nearly as soft as the mizuno's...

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[bjdrivers]

I don't know about the new Cally X-forged irons, but the X-tours felt like rocks. Has anyone hit the x-forged yet or play them? My dad is intereseted in them.

[miket_81]

You can easily carry more than 14 clubs in a bennington Hex. I think it has 10 individual slots around the outside and 5 or 6 in the inside and a separate putter tube on the side. For my home course I don't find myself using much under a 4 iron very often so I put 5-pw, GW, 52, 54, and 58 along the outside and 4I(sometimes, rarely use) Driver, 3 wood, and 7 wood in Middle.

[Spinner]

....i still wish i carried the 2 iron... ...im putting the 2 back in.

Since this thread had some blade lovers like me... I just bought one of my all time favs... Can't wait to give it a go!!!!

I added some pics so maybe these will light up discussion between the irons and the rescue irons/woods again

[Fletch47]

DOES TIGER NEED A HYBRID AT AUGUSTA...

Why doesn't tiger play a hybrid? He was just asked that on the Golf Channel last week, he said he has spend many hours trying them but he hits them too high.

He's probably one of the few golfers on the tour who do NOT have one in their bag, so omen if it makes you feel like more of a man hitting your 3 iron. Good for you - you're probably no taller than 5'10"

As far as i know, it's the number you write on the scorecard - not the clubs you did it with that matter.

Full Disclosure - i have a cleveland Halo 2i in my bag and no fairway woods. It was longer than my 3 wood and more consistent and that is all that matters. It's not the wrench it's the monkey swinging it that matters.